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Defoliation
weeks 6-16
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weeks 6-13
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Grow medium
Perlite
Grow medium
26 L
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5.98 L
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Week 3
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MMSC16 MMSC16
6 months ago
Day 16 - June 20 (Using PLANT B to determine when to update diary - will align diary age to PLANT A age next week). Plant Age Breakdown: PLANT A - Germinated 4 June (Starting Week 4 on 25 June) PLANT B - Germinated 6 June (Starting Week 3 today) PLANT C - Germinated 8 June (Starting Week 3 on 22 June) PLANT D - Germinated 10 June (Starting Week 3 on 24 June) PLANT E - Germinated 11 June (Starting Week 3 on 25 June) PLANT F - Germinated 14 June (Starting Week 3 on 28 June) June 20 - 04.00PM Sticky trap went across a few pots which bent stems. They've also been searching for sunlight on shaded balcony, but will straighten in tent overnight. 5-Finger leaves beginning to grow. June 20 - 06.30PM Went outside again as Temperature dropped to 77.5F with high humidity. Checked soil and 2 pots are practically dry, will water now. June 20 - 07.00PM Brought inside due to thunderstorm winds and dropping temperature. June 20 - 07.50PM I suspect PLANT A is male after inspecting nodes and finding something I can't confirm is a calyx. I should know in the next few days though! June 21 - 08.45AM Put outside - Temperature 72F. Humidity in the 80s. June 21 - 04.10PM Outside temperature is 76F, Humidity is 65% June 21 - 05.50PM Direct sunlight for an hour or so. Temp is 76F, but reads 80F in direct sun. Towels around black plastic pots to avoid heat stress to roots. June 22 - 09.50AM Put outside - Temp is 70F, Humidity is 75% June 22 - 07.30PM Watered 2 younger plants 250ml as soil was dry up to fingernail. In future I'll try not to let them get that dry before watering. June 22 - 07.30PM Noticing some roots at the bottom of a couple pots - I'll need to think on transplanting but want to sex before then. June 22 - 08.15PM Put inside, Temperature 67F. I suspect the cold is what made the leaves droop. June 23 - 06.00AM Put outside, 70F. Humidity 80% June 23 - 04.00PM Wind has broken main stem in a few plants- I topped up with potting soil to reinforce - will need to water the 3 older plants tomorrow, new potting soil will make dry testing difficult. June 23 - 06.15PM Brought all plants inside -they all were stressed with gale force wind - One is dead. June 24 - 09.45AM Plant B seems dead. Put the rest outside. June 24 - 06.00PM Put in direct sunlight, temperature is 82F. Likely too hot and windy, they need to get used to outdoor weather soon as they'll be spending their life outside soon. June 25 - 09.30AM Droopy leaves Perked up overnight, put outside. June 25 - 10.30AM Watered 3 youngest plants 200ml at 6.3PH to runoff. Will monitor the droppy leaves on youngest as the day progresses. June 26 - 08.45AM First night outside, one is droopy after watering (perhaps humidity + wind burn issue) June 26 - 11.40AM Youngest plant is drooping, perhaps too much water, not enough humidity and wind burn. All other plants seem okay with living outside 24/7. Leaves appearing at nodes, no pistils yet so presume the oldest 2 plants will be male. June 26 - 01.20PM Found droopy plant is due to broken stem. I suspect this will also die just as it's younger counterpart. June 26 - 03.00PM Watered two oldest plants to runoff at 6.3PH. New soil is more like clay and takes time for water to penetrate. Hoping to see them perk up tomorrow. Also considering reusing the soil from the two dead plants. June 27 - 12.45PM Temperature has not exceeded 68F. It's a cold day for the girls. Leaf taco-ing has stopped, but now they droop, perhaps to shield themselves from the cold air. Still no sign of sex. June 27 - 01.45PM All plants are a bit droopy - perhaps it's the soil not having enough aeration/drainage, perhaps it's because it's cloudy and cold. June 27 - 01.45PM I'll poke some holes in the soil to aid in getting some oxygen to lower soil. June 27 - 01.45PM Broken stem plant seems to be hanging on as it hasn't declined in health in the same fashion its sibling experienced - though stem is still wobbly. June 27 - 06.00PM Put two oldest plants in direct sunlight. Also higher wind force. June 27 - 06.40AM Less drooping after keeping inside all night at 60F. June 28 - 02.20PM Outside temperature 70F. Watered each plant to runoff at 6.3PH before going on vacation. Overwatered, but they'll have enough moisture to last the weekend outside. July 1 - 09.00PM Sex not easily identified after vacation - broken stem plant is having some deficiencies. Don't see a lot of new growth but will monitor and cross check with pics from before i left. Soil is moist.
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Grow Questions
MMSC16
MMSC16started grow question 5 months ago
What pest is this? Should I be concerned? Outdoor, photoperiod grow in soil. Temps around 80F (recently used chlorinated tap water PH'd to 6.3 out of necessity). Outdoor spiders live nearby plants - which I hope are killing all the nasty stuff, but perhaps not enough.
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001100010010011110answered grow question 5 months ago
the amount of chlorine in tap water is never a concern. you don't have to let it sit out 24h either. that is probably adding to risk of a problem more than solving anything. Cl is a trace element used by the plant. it needs a small amount anyway. Does not look like pest-related. If that showed up the day you brought it into the sun, light damage is definitely possible. Potassium often starts damaging the serated tips before anything else, but i'd wait to see progression before reacting with more K. Also, since that's mobile, it'd be odd that it started up near the top, but exactly where light damage would start. i'd see how it progresses. Plant has a good green to it. It's not overfed or underfed that i can tell. some minor tip burn. Might be 1 element in soil that's a bit hot but not too bad.
MMSC16
MMSC16started grow question 4 months ago
After rainfall, I notice mold on top layer of soil. Approximately 70 days from seed. Photoperiod, outdoor grow in 7G fabric pots. I know powdery mildew and botrytis is a death sentence for plants in flower, but with these girls in veg - is it okay? What should I do?
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 4 months ago
molds in soil are normal, mix it into the top layer. maybe apply a mulch later like straw to help prevent it from spreading to much, and don't over water. also if you use amendmends they will mold on surface layer if not mixed in well.
MMSC16
MMSC16started grow question 4 months ago
Should I re-wrap this broken stem? Bent with too much pressure and there was a snap, though not completely severed. I applied two or three layers of duct tape, not sure if the constant pull of ties will allow it to heal and repair. When should I take the tape off?
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AsNoriu
AsNoriuanswered grow question 4 months ago
3 lairs tyoo much, take off after two weeks, dont strangle her, extra pump that knuckle will be, shit happens ;)
MMSC16
MMSC16started grow question 3 months ago
I'm about to destroy this plant. Each branch has heavy PM despite having ample airflow. I suspect due to the lack of direct sunshine, but I'm sure it's spread to other plants which will also be destroyed. Is there anything I can do to salvage? What would you do? Thanks!
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001100010010011110answered grow question 3 months ago
Ther is no amazon product or diy product that will save your plant. All you will do is lie to yourself and smoke moldy weed. Fungus penetrates the leaf and creates a mycelium network below the surface. Cleaning the surface does not rid the plant of the infection, even if it looks clean for a day after you spray it. cornell formula? nope. neem? nope. Milk? no fucking way, lol, just asking for a terrible rotting smell all over your plants and flower. h202? nope. sodium bicarbonate? nope. potassium bicarbonate? nope. you will find all sorts of people claiming these nonsense remedies work. they do not. Nothing out there is effective nor safe for flowers. Also, spraying this ineffective trash on your plant will only spread the WPM all over -- on to stems and underneath buds.. drip down to more leaves... because none of these sprays actually work. I'd be wary of anything that says it is effective and can be sprayed on flowers. things that are safe for vegetables ar not necessarily safe for your lungs. eating and smoking something are slightly different dynamics. you digestive system is techinically outside your body (yeah, soundsn weird but lined with epithilial cells, or 'skin'). Lungs are a permeable membrane away from your your blood. "organic' absolutely does not mean a product is safe to use on flower. If it is riddled with it, either isolate it, send it outside to finish, or kill it. iif it's just a few leaves, try removing the leaves. By the time you can see a colony, it's already propagating spores and spreading. It latches on, it grows for 3-5 days, then it starts producing spores. You can't reliably see the initial infection with the naked eye. Good news -- if this is indoors it'l 99.99% self-inflicted. Either you are getting condensation at a consistent point in your daily cycle, or you are needlessly foliar spraying the plant and consistently have water all over your leaves. Don't do that. RH% can spike after lights out due to temperature drop. This is the most likely time it is happening and you won't notice without a probe to measure RH and you can check it without interrupting dark cycle -- a wireless one that connects to your phone is very useful. I speak from experience. I tried all that stupid shit up at the top and none of it works. Just makes it worse. I was trying to grow too large of a canopy relative to me dehumidifier's ability to keep the humidity in check. I didn't fix the problem until i cut my canopy size down. this allowed my dehum to keep up and also reduced my 'daytime' temps so the drop after lights off was less severe. Check a dewpoint table. if you are 30-32C during the day and 55-60% RH or even high if you shoot for a more proper VPD, you'll hit the dewpoint above 21-22C or thereabouts.. above 70F, which is easy to hit after lights out. Now i'm at 27-28C during the day and my canopy is half the size, so there is significantly less transpiration occuring (plants release moisture), too. All of a sudden my consistent WPM issue that would occur around 4-5weeks into flower stopped. I was so pissy at that time i nearly quite growing. I was fastidious about cleaning during this time, but at the end i was so pissed i didn't bother leading into the grow wiht half the canopy etc... even without cleaning i had no problem. Since then i've obviously wiped my tent down. I haven't had a wpm problem in 1.5 years. Indoors it's almost completely self-inflicted. Find a reason why and look inward, not outward.
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resi_max
resi_maxcommentedweek 06 months ago
Good luck and happy growing! 😁
MMSC16
MMSC16commented6 months ago
@resi_max, Thanks growmie! Lets hope they hold on!
LadyKiller
LadyKillercommentedweek 16 months ago
Goodluck with the grow! I look forward to seeing how it goes ✌️
MMSC16
MMSC16commented6 months ago
@LadyKiller, My friend, thanks so much for your well wishes! I've got these babies inside overnight to ensure humidity + warmth, but want to keep them outside for their life once they've matured a little more.
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BrigadeDesTerps
BrigadeDesTerpscommentedweek 114 months ago
you are beautiful young ladies, happy growing and good luck
BrigadeDesTerps
BrigadeDesTerpscommented4 months ago
@MMSC16, I hope for you who will have as little as possible🙏🏻
MMSC16
MMSC16commented4 months ago
@BrigadeDesTerps, Thanks very much! They've all been damaged so lets see how many hermaphrodite as a result!
Hologram
Hologramcommentedweek 16 months ago
Good luck with your grow! but seedling do not need support, she needs more soil.. evry thing under the 'lobe leaves'(the 2 round ones) in this stage is just root. so put it under the soil as much as possible..then she will grow strong (just my advice 😳) happy growing👍
MMSC16
MMSC16commented6 months ago
@Hologram, Hi Friend! Thanks so much for taking a look at my diary, and for sharing your advice - I really appreciate it! So when you say more soil - should cover the jiffy puck? I've also heard not to bury too deep to allow for more downward, vertical root growth. As for the support - this was only because it was SUPER windy outside and the seedling was almost bouncing off the soil with the gusts of wind haha. I'll remove and let the stem grow thick!! Thanks again for your support Hologram :D
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JamesBarre
JamesBarrecommentedweek 85 months ago
Salut mon pote, j'aime aussi tester des graines provenant d'ancienne récolte 👍😊 les résultats sont étonnants !! Viens voir mes expériences à l'occasion 😁
MMSC16
MMSC16commented5 months ago
@JamesBarre, Thanks JamesBarre! I had a look and you've got some great looking plants too :D
modmyplants
modmyplantscommentedweek 65 months ago
Nice documentation m👍ate, keep it up 👍👍
MMSC16
MMSC16commented5 months ago
@modmyplants, Thanks mate! Will do :)
Ghrim
Ghrimcommentedweek 143 months ago
Looking good great pistils 👍🏻 Happy growing 🌱
MMSC16
MMSC16commented3 months ago
@Ghrim, Thanks Ghrim! Much appreciated :)
Legendaryseedthumb
Legendaryseedthumbcommentedweek 114 months ago
Looks amazing. Happy growing growmie! I love what I’m seeing, keep on doing your thing! If you have any time to spare please visit my profile, I just started 2 new journals👨🏽‍🌾🌱♥️
MMSC16
MMSC16commented4 months ago
@Legendaryseedthumb, Thanks so much! Hopefully the destroyed branches wont cause too heavy a dip in yield!
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Herbie101
Herbie101commentedweek 65 months ago
Very nice and detailed diary buddy! Good luck and happy growing!
MMSC16
MMSC16commented5 months ago
@Herbie101, Hi Herbie! Thanks for your kind words :) Loving the process, and learning as much as I can. All the best Growmie, and thanks for checking out my post!