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Outdoor
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Defoliation
weeks 6-16
LST
weeks 6-13
Soil
Grow medium
Perlite
Grow medium
26 L
Pot Size
5.98 L
Watering
Grow Conditions
Week 6
Vegetation
48.26
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18 hrs
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MMSC16 MMSC16
5 months ago
Day 42 - July 16 July 16 - Started LST on oldest plant. Transplanted plant seems happy in new pot after heavy rain this morning. Second largest plant is showing early pre-flowers and is perky. I'll need to transplant this within the next week. July 17 - 08.00PM Adjusted LST at lower canopy and DEFOLIATED 6 leaves. 2 were wilted single finger leaves, 2 large were touching soil, 2 small were touching soil. July 17 - 08.00PM Noticed many exposed roots on my second largest plant, I will transplant tonight. July 17 - 11.30PM Transplanted second plant. Many white roots exposed at surface and edges of pot. July 18 - 09.00AM Wind took off LST ties overnight, have reattached. 2 Smaller pots don't need water, though the larger 2 might. July 18 - 12.55PM All plant soil is moist, though Oldest 2 plants will need water either tonight or tomorrow. July 18 - 07.00PM Watered all plants to runoff. Largest pot was very light. Likely underwatered - perhaps the previous days rain didn't saturate the medium as I thought. July 18 - 07.00PM Large plants = ~5L unchlorinated water, Smaller Plants = 3L unchlorinated water (approximate) July 19 - 08.15AM Perking up, after cold night at 58F July 19 - 04.45PM DAY 45 (eldest) - All 4 plants show pistils from pre-flowers. Surprisingly youngest plants are showing most noticable signs. July 19 - 04.45PM I'll need to transplant the remainder tomorrow. I need approximately 8-9 gallons of soil for remaining transplants. July 19 - 04.45PM I estimate plants are getting 5-6 hours of direct sunlight per day. Interested if buds will be airy for this reason. July 19 - 04.45PM Adjusted LST so lower branches are closer in height to middle branchs. July 19 - 06.30PM Loosened one or two LST ties, as I think they need a bit more growth. Upper canopy of all plants is perking up. Rotating plants as I see them bend. July 20 - 05.30PM Forgot to insulate black pots at hottest point of the day at 79F. Soil temp likely went up to 85F, but no major signs of heat stress like curled leaves, some minor taco-ing. July 21 - 05.55AM Plants are perky this morning July 21 - 11.55AM Adjusted LST ties on upper branches July 21 - 11.30PM Third transplant - went terribly. Unsheathed 3/4 fabric pot. Roots were severed as part of the soil stayed with the fabric pot. The main stalk seems quite loose too - so won't be surprised if it dies. July 22 - 08.45AM Transplant seems surprisingly happy. Perky and photosynthesising. Will transplant final plant tomorrow. Should also check soil moisture today. July 22 - 04.00PM Adjusted LST ties. Largest plant soil is becoming dry, will water tonight or tomorrow morning. Other pots seem fine. July 22 - 04.30PM 80F.
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Grow Questions
MMSC16
MMSC16started grow question 5 months ago
What pest is this? Should I be concerned? Outdoor, photoperiod grow in soil. Temps around 80F (recently used chlorinated tap water PH'd to 6.3 out of necessity). Outdoor spiders live nearby plants - which I hope are killing all the nasty stuff, but perhaps not enough.
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001100010010011110
001100010010011110answered grow question 5 months ago
the amount of chlorine in tap water is never a concern. you don't have to let it sit out 24h either. that is probably adding to risk of a problem more than solving anything. Cl is a trace element used by the plant. it needs a small amount anyway. Does not look like pest-related. If that showed up the day you brought it into the sun, light damage is definitely possible. Potassium often starts damaging the serated tips before anything else, but i'd wait to see progression before reacting with more K. Also, since that's mobile, it'd be odd that it started up near the top, but exactly where light damage would start. i'd see how it progresses. Plant has a good green to it. It's not overfed or underfed that i can tell. some minor tip burn. Might be 1 element in soil that's a bit hot but not too bad.
MMSC16
MMSC16started grow question 4 months ago
After rainfall, I notice mold on top layer of soil. Approximately 70 days from seed. Photoperiod, outdoor grow in 7G fabric pots. I know powdery mildew and botrytis is a death sentence for plants in flower, but with these girls in veg - is it okay? What should I do?
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m0use
m0useanswered grow question 4 months ago
molds in soil are normal, mix it into the top layer. maybe apply a mulch later like straw to help prevent it from spreading to much, and don't over water. also if you use amendmends they will mold on surface layer if not mixed in well.
MMSC16
MMSC16started grow question 4 months ago
Should I re-wrap this broken stem? Bent with too much pressure and there was a snap, though not completely severed. I applied two or three layers of duct tape, not sure if the constant pull of ties will allow it to heal and repair. When should I take the tape off?
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AsNoriu
AsNoriuanswered grow question 4 months ago
3 lairs tyoo much, take off after two weeks, dont strangle her, extra pump that knuckle will be, shit happens ;)
MMSC16
MMSC16started grow question 3 months ago
I'm about to destroy this plant. Each branch has heavy PM despite having ample airflow. I suspect due to the lack of direct sunshine, but I'm sure it's spread to other plants which will also be destroyed. Is there anything I can do to salvage? What would you do? Thanks!
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001100010010011110
001100010010011110answered grow question 3 months ago
Ther is no amazon product or diy product that will save your plant. All you will do is lie to yourself and smoke moldy weed. Fungus penetrates the leaf and creates a mycelium network below the surface. Cleaning the surface does not rid the plant of the infection, even if it looks clean for a day after you spray it. cornell formula? nope. neem? nope. Milk? no fucking way, lol, just asking for a terrible rotting smell all over your plants and flower. h202? nope. sodium bicarbonate? nope. potassium bicarbonate? nope. you will find all sorts of people claiming these nonsense remedies work. they do not. Nothing out there is effective nor safe for flowers. Also, spraying this ineffective trash on your plant will only spread the WPM all over -- on to stems and underneath buds.. drip down to more leaves... because none of these sprays actually work. I'd be wary of anything that says it is effective and can be sprayed on flowers. things that are safe for vegetables ar not necessarily safe for your lungs. eating and smoking something are slightly different dynamics. you digestive system is techinically outside your body (yeah, soundsn weird but lined with epithilial cells, or 'skin'). Lungs are a permeable membrane away from your your blood. "organic' absolutely does not mean a product is safe to use on flower. If it is riddled with it, either isolate it, send it outside to finish, or kill it. iif it's just a few leaves, try removing the leaves. By the time you can see a colony, it's already propagating spores and spreading. It latches on, it grows for 3-5 days, then it starts producing spores. You can't reliably see the initial infection with the naked eye. Good news -- if this is indoors it'l 99.99% self-inflicted. Either you are getting condensation at a consistent point in your daily cycle, or you are needlessly foliar spraying the plant and consistently have water all over your leaves. Don't do that. RH% can spike after lights out due to temperature drop. This is the most likely time it is happening and you won't notice without a probe to measure RH and you can check it without interrupting dark cycle -- a wireless one that connects to your phone is very useful. I speak from experience. I tried all that stupid shit up at the top and none of it works. Just makes it worse. I was trying to grow too large of a canopy relative to me dehumidifier's ability to keep the humidity in check. I didn't fix the problem until i cut my canopy size down. this allowed my dehum to keep up and also reduced my 'daytime' temps so the drop after lights off was less severe. Check a dewpoint table. if you are 30-32C during the day and 55-60% RH or even high if you shoot for a more proper VPD, you'll hit the dewpoint above 21-22C or thereabouts.. above 70F, which is easy to hit after lights out. Now i'm at 27-28C during the day and my canopy is half the size, so there is significantly less transpiration occuring (plants release moisture), too. All of a sudden my consistent WPM issue that would occur around 4-5weeks into flower stopped. I was so pissy at that time i nearly quite growing. I was fastidious about cleaning during this time, but at the end i was so pissed i didn't bother leading into the grow wiht half the canopy etc... even without cleaning i had no problem. Since then i've obviously wiped my tent down. I haven't had a wpm problem in 1.5 years. Indoors it's almost completely self-inflicted. Find a reason why and look inward, not outward.
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resi_max
resi_maxcommentedweek 06 months ago
Good luck and happy growing! 😁
MMSC16
MMSC16commented6 months ago
@resi_max, Thanks growmie! Lets hope they hold on!
LadyKiller
LadyKillercommentedweek 16 months ago
Goodluck with the grow! I look forward to seeing how it goes ✌️
MMSC16
MMSC16commented6 months ago
@LadyKiller, My friend, thanks so much for your well wishes! I've got these babies inside overnight to ensure humidity + warmth, but want to keep them outside for their life once they've matured a little more.
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BrigadeDesTerps
BrigadeDesTerpscommentedweek 114 months ago
you are beautiful young ladies, happy growing and good luck
BrigadeDesTerps
BrigadeDesTerpscommented4 months ago
@MMSC16, I hope for you who will have as little as possible🙏🏻
MMSC16
MMSC16commented4 months ago
@BrigadeDesTerps, Thanks very much! They've all been damaged so lets see how many hermaphrodite as a result!
Hologram
Hologramcommentedweek 16 months ago
Good luck with your grow! but seedling do not need support, she needs more soil.. evry thing under the 'lobe leaves'(the 2 round ones) in this stage is just root. so put it under the soil as much as possible..then she will grow strong (just my advice 😳) happy growing👍
MMSC16
MMSC16commented6 months ago
@Hologram, Hi Friend! Thanks so much for taking a look at my diary, and for sharing your advice - I really appreciate it! So when you say more soil - should cover the jiffy puck? I've also heard not to bury too deep to allow for more downward, vertical root growth. As for the support - this was only because it was SUPER windy outside and the seedling was almost bouncing off the soil with the gusts of wind haha. I'll remove and let the stem grow thick!! Thanks again for your support Hologram :D
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JamesBarre
JamesBarrecommentedweek 85 months ago
Salut mon pote, j'aime aussi tester des graines provenant d'ancienne récolte 👍😊 les résultats sont étonnants !! Viens voir mes expériences à l'occasion 😁
MMSC16
MMSC16commented5 months ago
@JamesBarre, Thanks JamesBarre! I had a look and you've got some great looking plants too :D
modmyplants
modmyplantscommentedweek 65 months ago
Nice documentation m👍ate, keep it up 👍👍
MMSC16
MMSC16commented5 months ago
@modmyplants, Thanks mate! Will do :)
Ghrim
Ghrimcommentedweek 143 months ago
Looking good great pistils 👍🏻 Happy growing 🌱
MMSC16
MMSC16commented3 months ago
@Ghrim, Thanks Ghrim! Much appreciated :)
Legendaryseedthumb
Legendaryseedthumbcommentedweek 114 months ago
Looks amazing. Happy growing growmie! I love what I’m seeing, keep on doing your thing! If you have any time to spare please visit my profile, I just started 2 new journals👨🏽‍🌾🌱♥️
MMSC16
MMSC16commented4 months ago
@Legendaryseedthumb, Thanks so much! Hopefully the destroyed branches wont cause too heavy a dip in yield!
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Herbie101
Herbie101commentedweek 65 months ago
Very nice and detailed diary buddy! Good luck and happy growing!
MMSC16
MMSC16commented5 months ago
@Herbie101, Hi Herbie! Thanks for your kind words :) Loving the process, and learning as much as I can. All the best Growmie, and thanks for checking out my post!