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5 months ago
LST on the Big Apple strudels
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Hirst1865
Hirst1865started grow question 5 months ago
Should i lollipop even more? Should i defoliate the top canopy?
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001100010010011110answered grow question 5 months ago
Doesn't look congested to me from these pics as far as any need to defoliate. As far as pruning off lower buds -- if familiar with your lights and typical depth of good buds, that's you guide. plant genetics play a role too - some can have 24" deep canopy of great buds under indoor lights. So, how much growth do you have left? Don't prune off too much. it's more art than science. Where the larf starts can be different on any plant and due to various factors in each garden. back to defoliation -- only remove leaves for a specific reason. Don't defoliate just to defoliate or some as part of some habitual behaviour. The products of photosynthesis are as mobile as water is in the phloem. Light hitting a lower bud is not what prevents larf, unless you are going extreme with side and under lightnig, then you can have an effect akin to the sun with good buds everywhere, but a few extra rays penetrating because you removed a bud with some indoor lights above? That's not doing anything and if it reduces photosynthesis potential of the plant, it only hurts yield. Removing leaves also reduces transpiration, which is how the plant gets 99% of its carbon.
Hirst1865
Hirst1865started grow question 5 months ago
Apple Strudel Auto (150cm)& Sanlight 3-60 190w. Ran at 85%, 30cm distance: 45DLI. Now there is no more Space, so distance is 20cm and 45 DLI is reached at 40%. Should i keep it at 40% for the top canopy to have 45 dli or up the Lamp back to 85? No Bad Signs w/ 85% but no space
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AsNoriu
AsNoriuanswered grow question 5 months ago
everything looks great, you had to raise smaller plant, but at least you supercropped bigger, now canopy is nice. i see no burn marks, all healthy, so keep up same. during last two weeks blast them with almost max , but that could increase temps and could cause foxtailing, so do at the end and keep an eye on temps, for now i would leave everything as it is. have great flowering ! maybe in future if you have such small space , it would be wise to take exaust with carbon outside of tent, light would have better position.
Hirst1865
Hirst1865started grow question 5 months ago
5cm left to the light, what do? Is it too Late to LST more? Also no real Space left anywhere
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gottagrowsometime
gottagrowsometimeanswered grow question 5 months ago
So, this plants are still stretching. So, I wouldn't supercrop just yet. Once most of the stretching is done. You can then approach supercrop. So, its just a think of making a T shape, and tieing down nodes to that.. thsts 1 way of many Mine would be this. Remove some of the larger fan leaves. This will slow node growth down. VERY FEW NOW. Just a enough to slow the stretch down. For now also, you can get some LST clip. You bend the stem in them and they sit is like a C or half an S and this will allow you to lower the height. If you dont half what you can do. Is make some that comes up like to T shapes at put them to the side and pull the nodes down slightly just so they bow. Then after the stretch is over. HST them. (U can DM me for more help after your plant has finished stretch. Also. That net. Is pointless as a scrog net. But will even do so you can tie some string to it. Make 0 nots around your nodes, pick points where fan leafs, shoots come out so it can hold it down. Or, if you aren't stealth growing. You can simply just take it out. Leave until stops stretching. Then HST.
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LSchnabel
LSchnabelweek 5
Just throwing this out there while there is still time. Your goal with the first scrog net is to even out the canopy. This larger plant could have been squashed down to fill out more. The second net it’s purely for support. If you actually plan to fill that second net with a canopy, then you will probably want to cut any bud under it as it will not amount to much and steal from the top. Just my two cents.
Hirst1865
Hirst1865
@LSchnabel, Yeah i didnt anticipate that the Big one would get that big, otherwise i would have spread it all over the tent in the First net. Im Not Planing to create a Full canopy in the 2nd net, just for Stability and some guidance. Ive seen your one plant Full canopy Scrog, impressive, but i wouldnt know how to recreate it as my other plants have Never gotten nearly as Big as this one, so i dont know if it is worth it doing just one central plant in my 80x80cm tent
Dabking
Dabkingweek 12
Congrats on the harvest
Fat_Olsh_Farms
Fat_Olsh_Farmsweek 12
Nice plants, but I think they all needed a few more weeks. Waiting is easier said than done tho when you need smoke lol.
Todzilla
Todzillaweek 9
You have an out of control girlfriend! Try a SCROG next time. Grow sideways. Bend those branches while you can. The focus should be a quality canopy. Anything not in the canopy is second rate bud. You’re growing great, now train that bitch. (Edit Schnabel is spot on in his advise)
Hirst1865
Hirst1865week 5
Had to Take out the Last small pot as Well, the Apple Strudel on the bottom Right dominantes the other plants, its growth is Insane!