okay so gave these two a run again, very very strong oder and overpowering my carbi. i dont have long left iv just started flushing. i cant say how long this has been going it was just a for fun thing and i left it and it took off. pretty good to resistant pests and diseases, i had no issues this time around. had to up the nutes during flower as i had troubles with deficiencies but were at the end now and they smell great like fresh fruit.