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Day 43 AM 61% 65f - no water - Power went out AGAIN (3rd time this grow) last night: icy, with 50mph winds for 4 hours with room dropping to 61f - saw pistils on the Skunk today, so that's PH1 & 3 as confirmed females? - the plants left are all in week 6 or 7, so I expect all females (pure luck with bag seeds) - I still have the PH 7,8 and 9 tri-plant pot in tent/veg - plant heights are 17-21" - set dehumidifier to 55% - Pm 57% 73f Day 44 AM 59% 81f - Busy Day - Lights were on all night, adjusted timer to go back to 12/12 schedule - Changed lights from 2x600w Red/Blue/UV/IR LED to 1x600w Red/Blue/UV/IR LED + 1x1200w COB (next to each other) LED + 2xCircle 45w Red/Blue LEDwater (on each end), all overhead and a 19w Full Spectrum Veg Light facing from the side (almost 1900w in a 3x4 foot grow area) - moved the other 600w Red/Blue/UV/IR LED to the veg tent - heavy LST (final) to spread thick branches to edges and expose centers for growth - watered 5 gal ph 6.0 water to PH1-6 (1TBL/gal Big Bloom, 1tsp/gal Tiger Bloom, 1.5tsp/gal Berry Sweet) - watered PH7-9 tri-plant with 1 gallon ph6.0 water (1TBL Big Bloom, 1tsp Grow Big) - plants at 18-23" height after lst - lights at 15" as COB heat is significant - PM 61% 79f Day 45 AM 59% 79f - watered with 1 gal ph 6.2 molasses water (2TBL/gal) across all plants - emptied 0.8gal from dehumidifier - leaf manipulations - 18-24" (Skunk is still spurting up) PM 55% 81f Day 46 AM 56% 75f - no water - leaf manipulation, balancing of the canopy - all PH1-6 plants and Skunk are confirmed females (miracle of the ganga gods) - PH7,8,9 tri-plant still doesn't show any signs of sex in veg tent - emptied 0.8gal from dehumidifier - PM 54% 79f Day 47 AM 53% 81f - 20-26" heights - watered with 5 gal ph 6.5 water (10ml/gal Sweet Berry), which flushed PH1-6 and Skunk - PH 7,8,9 did not need water - setup 6" fan w/filter to handle slight smell, triggered by 80f at canopy (still not vented out) - emptied 0.5 gal from dehumidifer - PM 54% 82f Day 48 AM 60% 77f - no water - leaf manipulation - having a hard time keeping the temp down without the cooling fan venting out (hope to have venting setup within a few days) - emptied 0.5 gal from dehumidifer - 20-27" height - PM 56% 81f Day 49 AM 57% 75f - no water - emptied 0.5 gal from dehumidifer - leaf manipulation - covered full side with hanging reflectors - added 1200w COB LED and pulled 2x45wufo LEDs off - now ~3000w of lighting (2x1200w COB + 1x600wLED on Bloom setting) - PM 54% 82f
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Michigander
Michiganderstarted grow question 6 years ago
I do not feel very sure that the 'supposed' 65 days of flower info I found on the internet is my target. These are bag seeds, so I do not know it's genetic line or original breeder. When do you recommend I harvest my Purple Haze plants?
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amazongrow
amazongrowanswered grow question 6 years ago
Looking at your grow conditions and without seeing a microscope picture of the trichomes, I would say you give them a last light feed on the week 9 of flower and start flushing by week 10, aiming at 20-30% runoff each time, for 1 or 2 weeks, so they can ripe those buds even more. Keep an eye on the buds and trichomes as the leaves yellow, for they can be ready before you finish flushing. Take a note on the smell too, it's a good indicator, as it starts to decrease, they are ready. In the last week the smell should be 3x, 4x times stronger and then it starts to turn to a more fermented scent, with lower intensity. Got that from a Ed Rosenthal book and it's a true thing. Have fun growing! Tchau, do Brazil! =) ,
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Athos
Athosanswered grow question 6 years ago
8 to 10 weeks of flower is where most strains are ready. in absence of a microscope / jewelers loupe, the calyxes swelling and hairs going red is a good sign of the plant been ready.
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Thee_HoffGuyy
Thee_HoffGuyyanswered grow question 6 years ago
Hey there! So the only way to know when your plants are at peak ripeness, is to use a pocket microscope or jewelers loupe to look at the trichomes (crystals) on the buds. What you want to look for is Cloudy/milky trichomes that is when they are at peak resin production. there are 3 stages of the trichomes life, Clear-to early don't harvest yet Milky/Cloudy-peak production and amber- it is past peak and the THC oxidizes into CBN and can produce somewhat of a fake couch lock feeling. So it best to harvest when it is as close to 100% cloudy but that is very hard to do so some people go a little on the early side and chop at like 90-95% cloudy and 5-10% clear. Some people go a little longer and the the same but with 5-10% amber and sometimes if you wanting a more couchlock like feeling some folks will go 30% amber it up to you on that part of when but as long as you get almost all of them when cloudy your good👍 Happy Growing!!
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Michiganderweek 12
It's amazing what you learn as you grow. Reflecting back I even see lessons I learned slowly (as I had zero patience) and some that just came naturally, like defoliation. I wrote a blog post about 'How to Germinate and start a seedling." I had forgotten about it and re-read it the other day. I was clueless, giving out stupid advice and I was pretty good at documenting my complete lack of know how. 😀 As I near my first harvest, I'm still inpatient and excited. I'm constantly re-checking other diaries, videos, blogs on the matter, to make sure I choose the right time to harvest. I'm thankful that I found Growdiaries too, as it's been the best source of comparisons to what I'm actually doing on the internet, IMHO. 👍
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@Michigander, Its like i said, from this point , you can do things only the right way. ( there is no chance to mess it up now<------Ironic)
Michigander
Michiganderweek 13
Trichomes are running 5-15% amber, depending on the plant. Pistils are around 70-90% brown.
Michigander
Michigander
@Mrs_Larimar, I love that site. It has the best articles. Surprised I had not found that one, but it's perfect. Stages of harvest sound like a good idea, as the lower canopies are not returning the same trichome results and seem about a week behind the tops. It's not an issue to stage it, since the Triplnt is already about 3 weeks behind the others. I'll take my time. It would be a good opportunity to test the variety of effect from low and high amber trichome effects in a sativa dominant plant. I already know what the immature tester buds are like. hehe ;)
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@Michigander, and here the promised link to the site.....https://www.growweedeasy.com/ready-for-harvest-pictures And after looking again i would say 5-8 more days..... because its 25 degree, and so the plants maturate faster If you are unsure, you can harvest in stages, at first the ready parts and later the rest of it
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 8
After looking into your diary im pretty impressed. Very nice and Detailed. And well prepared. You are sure its your First Grow=? ( Joking) well done. and pls tag me in your next grow.
Michigander
Michigander
@Mrs_Larimar, thank you. Yea, it's really my first grow. I've been researching and debating starting this for years and after it was legalized, I jumped in. I started taking notes long before I found growdiaries. I was intentionally trying to learn as much as I could and wanted to be able to track problem down. I had no clue it was so appropriate. :) Plus, an older friend wanted to grow their first plant this year and I hoped notes would help them.
Michigander
Michiganderweek 8
I found a few hermie seeds this week and decided to keep and quarantine the plant. I suppose it's the luck of the draw with bag seed. Anyone else have hermie's documented in their diaries? How did you deal with them?
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@Michigander, I had a hermie, i just took away the pollensacks( around 5 times) after that she showed only female organs. Normally its better to separate them. but i had no place , so she stayed where she was and made no more trouble. But if you see it to late you have a lot of seeds... so i let them grow
Michigander
Michiganderweek 1
I forgot to mention - the day numbering is based on when I determined vegetation to have started. ie: the day I transplanted my first seedling into a larger pot. There were actually 18 days of germination/seedling growth, before this diary started. Of the 9 plants, one is in a 5 gallon cloth pot (PH1) 5 are in 3 gal cloth pots(PH2-6) and one 5 gallong cloth pot has 3 of the 9 plants in it, which I have coined 'Triplnt.'
Thee_HoffGuyy
Thee_HoffGuyyweek 13
They look awesome Great job on the grow👍👊 Hope you have a good harvest!! Happy Growing an Plentiful Harvests🙏
GoldenGreen
GoldenGreenweek 1
Good luck with your first grow!
NOLOGIK
NOLOGIKweek 13
hi can i know the brand of your led? very beautiful
Michigander
Michigander
@NOLOGIK, okay, I own both types and I am using them on separate grows/areas and here is what I am noticing. The budget Blurple LEDs work fine, but they are very low powered for what they say they are. If it says 600w, I would consider it is actually only about 25% of that in equivalency. The 600w Blurple LEDs I have are setup with 2 in a 3x3 grow tent. They performed INCREDIBLY for vegetation phase, but seem to be under-powered for the bloom phase. LUX is in the 15k range at 12". I have another budget 1200w Blurple in a second area, 2x3 ft. It is almost done with a 4 month grow and it is performing VERY well. Huge buds! The doubling in intensity from the single light is noticeably showing. It's the PH1 plant in this grow. I love this light and it covers the area perfectly and has decent LUX. (40,000k) I use a freebie LUX meter app on my phone. My third area has my PH2-6 plants and the Triplnt. In a 3x5ft area I have two budget 1200w COB LED lights (4x300w COBs in each). The performance is beyond my expectations and I am very pleased. These are my favorite lights. The LUX on them runs 40,000-50,000 and the penetration below the canopy is superior. I did use the 2x600w Blruple LEDs to veg these plants. So, from what I have learned in the past 4 months for the home grower: 1. Don't waste money on the $500 name brand lights (I spent less than that for all my 6 of my different grow lights combined) 2. Budget Blurple lights need to be 12-18" from your plants, reducing their effective area - so use them for smaller grows or use 2-4 of them to cover a larger area. 3. Budget COB LEDs cost a bit more, but they can cover a much larger area as they don't need to be so close. They also put off more heat than the Blurples, so they work as a heat source in the cold winter months. If you only want to grow 2 plants at a time, a budget Blurple LED of at least 900watts. If you want to grow 4 plants, get three or more Blurples (600w each, or more) and stagger them. If you want to grow more than that, focus on COB LEDs of 1200w or more. My friend uses 4 1500w COBs in a 5x5 tent with amazing results. As an FYI, I just ordered myself another 2foot long 600w COB LED with 3 COBs in it, all in a row. I am going to add it to my 3x3 tent in between the two 600w Blurple LED lights - which I am keeping. It is the Gorillagasm grow in my diaries if you want to see how it is doing so far with just the 2x600w Blurples. I'm adding the light because in comparison, the buds seem a little smaller than my COB grow was at this stage in bloom. I do like and see the benefit of the red light spectrum, plus I really like the idea of the UV and IR lights they have to prevent bacteria and other nastiness. If you go Blurple - pick a high wattage reading. Do not be concerned about the ones with or without the veg/bloom switches - it does not change much other than how much light it puts out. If you go COB, consider a cheapo blurple as a supplement light along side it.
NOLOGIK
NOLOGIK
@Michigander, Hi I was seeing your list I can ask you how do these cob lights work? how many harvests have you already done? ke your impressions if they are worth and special lights for cultivation, and all you can tell me ... because I am also looking for led lights, but the market and my thoughts are making me increase my doubts !!!! thank you very much and sorry for too many questions!
NOLOGIK
NOLOGIK
@Michigander, thanks
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growdoctordc
growdoctordcweek 13
Your title says “Purple Haze - First Grow” Please clarify if you mean your first purple haze grow, and you are already a skilled grower. Or, is this your first grow ever, and you’re growing purple haze?
Michigander
Michigander
@growdoctordc, thanks, I think. I'm just trying to do my best and learning as I go.
growdoctordc
growdoctordc
@Michigander, 3000w? ID sticks in perfectly manifolded plants? You are either the most brilliantly gifted newbie ever, or you’re kidding us
Michigander
Michigander
@growdoctordc, first grow ever, period. I used bag seed that I was told was Purple Haze.
amazongrow
amazongrowweek 13
Hey bro, nice ladies. I will be following along to see how they finish. Have fun! Im also starting a diary growing a NL from Sensi Seeds, you're welcome to visit us. =)
Michigander
Michiganderweek 1
This grow is actually 9 plants, all Purple Haze bag seed. It's my first grow and I'm learning as I go. I also want to be able to experiment with different techniques, temps and timing. This is a soil grow and I used Scott's potting soil. I have Fox Farm nutrients and some Sweet Berry from Botanicare. I've been acquiring bits and pieces for growing and have and will expand my growing abilities and equipment, as I learn more. After, I've selected 3 different drying and curing methods to attempt. Traditional, dry, jar, burp. Deep freezing and COBs. I'm all in. So, why not?
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@Michigander, These are interesting facts , that should be into your diary ( next time). because if problems appear, the more informations the better