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ragnardanneskjold ragnardanneskjold
5 years ago
Shes growing every day, fun to see the leaves expand. Trying to use organic nutes from my local garden store, but for next run i will go with advanced nutrients. Transplanted on day 13 to a 8L pot. Finally got my hygrometer, temp is steady at 26 (optimal is 21-29deg according to interwebz), humidity at 61% and i read that it should be 40-55% during veg, not sure how to control it so fingers crossed that it sinks to 55% during flower. Also I lowered her from the light 10cm and added a pc fan running half speed to circulate, read somewhere that wind helps strenghten the stem. I had no idea i wasnt supposed to nute during first weeks in soil, well i learn something new every day. So now im going to water when dry and shower with love when it pleases me. Ive been using reddit as a place to ask and search info, but theres too many angry know-it-alls who look down on blurples and new growers. all we want is to learn, weve got to start somewhere!! :) the community here on growdiaries have been fully positive and constructive, so refreshing to see people happy to share information and insight! so happy to have found the site, seems like a great place to grow (pun partially intended).
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ragnardanneskjold
ragnardanneskjoldstarted grow question 5 years ago
Im growing in a spare room with a washing machine and probably the least fresh air in the house and i fear my co2 levels and ph is way off (first time grow, you know, so much to learn so fast). How will poor air quality affect the plant, and how can i see the signs on her?
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimaranswered grow question 5 years ago
Hello and welcome on Growdiaries. here are some spacebucketgrower... Successful one too , i will name them in the Comments. but generally to say... no nutients!!Its ways to early for that. Normally no nutes and less until you reach minimum week 4 or see defiencys. the soil feeds your plant. Dont care about co2 levels, look for a good airflow, check humidity , and dont overwater. Atm she looks good.
ragnardanneskjold
ragnardanneskjoldstarted grow question 5 years ago
Im seeing yellow old fan leaves, spots on top new leaves, yellowing tips, and perhaps stunted growth (she's kinda short, right?). Im feeding 2ml/L now and PH should be ok, but she still shows def/excess. This makes me sad :( Should I just flush? How did this problem start?
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Philindicus
Philindicusanswered grow question 5 years ago
You can give her a light flush of 2-2.5 gallons of ph correct water. If you use a TDS meter try to get the runoff down to 200-300 ppm. Lower your nute dose a bit the tips of the leaves are showing some burn. Add your nutrients to the last quart of flush water with some cal/mag. You needed to start adding some cal/mag back in week 4. It usually starts showing a deficiency in the leaves by week 6. The damage can't be reversed only slowed down. If you don't have cal /mag use unsulphured "blackstrap" molasses from a health food store. Dissolve in a few cups of hot water 1 tablespoon molasses per gallon of water. You will need to correct the ph after adding this to the water it's acidic. You can mix your nute into the same water. If there is any left toss it because it won't keep. Let her dry out a bit before you water again. Week 7-8 are an important time for the buds to fatten up. So try to tuck some leaves to get as much light as possible on the buds. You still have about 2.5 weeks to go. She will be draining nutrients from the leaves until the end that's normal. By harvest many of her leaves will be yellow. Good luck
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Philindicus
Philindicusweek 2
I wouldn't bother trying to mainline this strain. It's already a fairly small fast plant you"ll problably set her back at least a week by doing it. That's one week less of growth or flowering that will affect overall haul of buds.
ragnardanneskjold
ragnardanneskjold
@Philindicus, yes i noticed this now when i transplanted to a bigger pot and i can see the % sink when she drinks it up. now its at about 35-40% when shes dry. The smell though, a filter is going to be the next update to the box i think :) Didnt think it would be noticable before flower, thought i read that somewhere, but its def there now. I love it but might need to contain it for the unknowing-nonsmoking-houseguests.
Philindicus
Philindicus
@@ragnardanneskjold, At 2 weeks 62% humidity is fine during the veg stage as long as you dont see any signs of mold or mildew. You can start lowering it during flower. Since your growing in a space bucket it will be high everytime you water. You just need some good air circulation and it will drop when things dry out a bit.
ragnardanneskjold
ragnardanneskjold
@Philindicus, Think im gonna play it cool and focus on health. Just got a hygrometer and i see i might need to take some measures to lower it, 62% seems high. I guess add an extra output fan could help.
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Philindicus
Philindicusweek 3
Nice she's right on schedule. What nutrients were you going to start her with?
ragnardanneskjold
ragnardanneskjold
@Mrs_Larimar, no worries, im just trying to stay obscure since weed is highly illegal in my country, not sure whos watching :) Here are the contents though: https://imgur.com/account/favorites/wdCztmZ
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@@ragnardanneskjold,now iam nosey what is the brand of the german fertilisers=?
Philindicus
Philindicus
@@@@@ragnardanneskjold, She looks perfect. You may start to see some flower pistils soon exciting stuff. I hear you with being careful. You can buy stuff as you go. What is the N-P-K on the fertilizer package? I would start off with 1/8 dose week 4 of what they say to use and see how she reacts. If she does good then go to 3/16 to 1/4 dose in week 5. Auto flower need less nutes. Depending on what form the nitrogen is in could cause some issues when determining dosage so go slow. You could tape some black paper or plastic around the sides of your container if you want. It doesnt seem to be affecting her at all so far. Like I said next time adding perlite to your mix will give more spaces between the soil particles, oxygen to the roots and better drainage.Because your mix is dense you just need to be careful because it will hold on to the fertilizer longer than a free draining mix. Mrs_Larimar has some great diaries check out her soil mix and other recipes on her diary of the month grow for March. She also has some organic stuff you can make yourself. Your also at a time when you can start some LST work to control her height be gentle and try to lay her a bit on her side. Don't try to bend the upper most top it's too soft may be try near the middle. Do it a little at a time as she grows.
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 2
Sorry cant find the bucketgrower i mean... but if you search for spacebucket .....there are a few... happy growing
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@@ragnardanneskjold,so true only more space is more space
ragnardanneskjold
ragnardanneskjold
@Mrs_Larimar, i did and found some interesting ones. also fun to see others on the same week as me. Originally i planted two seeds, this one sprouted faster than the one that probably died of nute-shock or something (sad emoji). Glad i planted two for safety though :) I can see why people like spacebuckets, but man I want more space!!!! Already planning to empty a closet and rebuild :p
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 5
I see a few pistils on the main stem she starting to flower. She may have been a bit hungry so she started pulling nutrients from the lower leaves. If you look at your leaves the edges are slightly curling up and the blades look canoe shaped that is a sign of light stress or the beginning of light burn If possible try to raise your light up higher until it stops. If you notice it is mostly the upper leaves that are doing this. Any discoloration can't be fixed just slowed down. You can also try to tuck or tie or push the lager fan leaves out of the way to allow more light to the lower growth and bud sites. If they can't be moved you can remove 3-4 of the lowest fan leaves but don't go crazy. As the branches stretch they will grow a few new leaves. Concentrate on the buds that are going to start developing. The older leaves will look worse for wear over the next 4-5 weeks. You can try drilling a few holes in the top of your pot then tie down your branches. You can start to use some bloom nutrients if you have any it will tell her to stop growing and start flowering since you have limited space.
ragnardanneskjold
ragnardanneskjold
@Philindicus, thanks so much for your input! very helpful. :D
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 2
Also next time try to add about 25-30% perlite to your soil mix. It will drain better and allow more oxygen to the roots.
ragnardanneskjold
ragnardanneskjold
@Philindicus, thats great advice, noted to my next run. I guess the watering cycle will change then, so in a way im starting over again the next time around but thats the fun of this process, everything is new :)
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 5
They dont look too bad... calm down. I dont go with a big defiency... shes fine at that stage, You may have to cut a few leaves at all.take the weired ones^^ As you have no filled nutrient schedule i cant say much about the plants , but she will do fine and give you a yield. Philindicus had some nice tips
Budofpray
Budofprayweek 7
hello...use fungis inoculation as soon as possible... in order to regulate your grow...and stop adding N๐Ÿ˜˜
Budofpray
Budofpray
@@ragnardanneskjold, in my mind dude... it's exactly that ! how correctly walk ๐Ÿ‘โ€ฆ an to my point of view it is not a question of newbie or master...but more a question of what i want to learn as knowledge ๐Ÿ‘Œ take a look on my diary fast and furious kushโ€ฆ i failed my third attempโ€ฆon others diarie but this time i did it !! the demonstration in germinating process that we can create a mutant root by fungi/bacteriaโ€ฆ using only a bio Activator to boost spores bacteria activities ๐Ÿ‘
ragnardanneskjold
ragnardanneskjold
@Budofpray, np im sure you know what you are talking about. Ill stick with my bottled nutrients for now since this is a low effort side project for me. I would recommend you reach out to apprentice/master growers rather than newbies, I have to learn how to walk before I learn to run :)
Philindicus
Philindicus
@Budofpray, I agree adding microbes should be done separately from nutrient feedings. It seems that even with the long list of microbes on the product your at the mercy of the manufacturer in terms of getting viable microbes since they are also very heat sensitive. One trip in the back of a tractor trailer in the summertime heat they are cooked. Same thing with soils that add beneficial microbes who knows if they were handled properly. Getting fresh products is a big issue. Also the list of how many microbes are actually beneficial to each type of plant is very short. Not like the manufacturers lead us to believe that they need 30 different species. I guess the only way to know is by the results of the grow.
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Philindicus
Philindicusweek 6
With lights do your research. Buy the best light you can afford. You can always add additional lights as you go. Keep in mind when buying leds that what the manufacturer calls 400 watts may actually only use 200 watts or less. Look for the specs to see what the actual wattage draw is for that light. More wattage equals higher bud weight. Comparing lights is very difficult. Try to read up on PAR rating for LEDS. It's measured in umoles. You need at least 300 umoles for growth and up to 700 umoles of light for bloom. So something that puts out 300- 550 umoles is about average. Good lights will have a square meter map showing the different umole ranges under the lights. Don't get me wrong I've read diaries where a 150 watt led grew twice as much as one with a 600 watt led. Good luck with your search.
ragnardanneskjold
ragnardanneskjold
@Philindicus, that analogy is so true. Like its only as strong as the weakest link. Im in europe yes, so theres a whole lot of agriculture here. should be able to find something.. thanks again for all the input
Philindicus
Philindicus
@@ragnardanneskjold, I went through the same issue since I'm just starting out. The science can be confusing on lights. Manufacturers make it difficult to do a comparison to other brands of light. Lights that have not only a heat sink but cooling fans help the lights last longer. I think your in europe is that so? You can post a question to fellow growers in your area for suggestions on lights. They are truly an investment. Don't trust your power company to give you the exact power you need. You need at the very least a surge protector between your outlet and your light. They also have voltage regulators which adjust the power between your outlet and your light. If you buy an exspensive light I would recommend using one. Good lights should last about 5 years. Growing is like baking a cake if you have all the highest quality ingredients but don't have a good recipe you can't expect it to come out good.
ragnardanneskjold
ragnardanneskjold
@Philindicus, Mine says 300w but is 150w, now i guess its more like 65-80w :/ Ive read reviews where lamps have died after a few weeks so I guess Im one of the unlucky ones. Not going to happen again!!! :) Quantum boards feel like a step in the right direction for me in terms of power and output, and heat. Always just looked at watt, being a commercial photographer by trade, never heard about ppfd, umoles and all that good stuff, very technical but I see now that watt really doesnt say anything regarding yield. Ill get back to my research :)
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 6
When it rains it pours! She looks great in her new home. You can take off the lowest yellowing fan leaves. Take it easy on the nutrients. With auto flowers they use less nutes than photo periods. Typically 1/2 strength nutes is a high as you want to go unless shes telling you she wants more. Your at a stage where if you burn the roots with too much fertilizer it will hurt your harvest weight. Definitely DO NOT use 4 ml per liter on her unless your using a TDS meter to tell you how many ppm your feeding solution contains. Week 7-8 are usually when she will use the most nutes. She looks like she has a magnesium deficiency in the first photo but not in the rest of the photos it's hard to tell. If you have a Cal/Mag additive you can add that to your routine. Be patient the buds will be growing slowly for week 6-7. Week 8-9-10? they will swell up nicely. Keep in mind by the end of her life the leaves will look worse for wear but the buds will look great.
Philindicus
Philindicus
@@ragnardanneskjold, if you dont have Cal/ mag you can go to a health food store and buy unsulphured molasses. It has calcium, magnesium, vitamins,amino acids and sugars to feed your beneficial bacteria living in your soil. It an organic method. I would start with one teaspoon per gallon then gradually work up to one tablespoon by week 8 or 9. It will make your solution acidic so make sure to adjust your ph after you add it to your feed solution. Recheck the ph again after 15-20 minutes to make sure it didn't swing back down.
ragnardanneskjold
ragnardanneskjold
@Philindicus, thank you sensei, your input is invaluable :) Ill be careful with the nutrients then. Dont have calmag, putting it on the ever growing shoppinglist.
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 9
Nice your hard work will pay off soon. You should be flushing with plain ph correct water to get rid of the fertilzer thats left in the soil and plant or your weed will burn poorly and taste harsh.. You will see a mix of colors in the trichomes. Some clear, 1/2 cloudy, milky which turns to amber. The more amber the more of a body high you'll get. I've been taking mine at about 5 to 10% amber ,some people like 15 to 30% amber. You can always harvest in stages to try and see which type of high you like. Looks like maybe another week. Take her at 70 to 75 days.
ragnardanneskjold
ragnardanneskjold
@Philindicus, thanks boss, yes ive been thinking 1 week more might be right. about half is milky now, maybe more. havent checked the ones beneath though, guess they arent as ripe under the canopy. guess ill do it in stages and check along the way. BAH.. one more week of waiting :p GET IN MY PIPE ALREADY!! :) also, ive seen different types of harvest, some freeze dry in the fridge and then cure. others just hang them up and then jar with those humidity packs (or have i gotten that all wrong?). do you have any tips on the final stage? guess its not a short answer :) ive got rosenthals book but its not clear what the process is.
Ktims420
Ktims420week 7
Same nutrients, looking awesome ๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ
ragnardanneskjold
ragnardanneskjold
@Ktims420, good to hear! im a noob but shes growing like a champ :) Best of luck to you, friend!
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 6
Your emergency light issue. You can use a drop light with fluorecent spot light bulb or two with a color spectrum of 3000k or less to suppliment your other light until you decide on your new lights. The lights you mention or showed intrest in have a very limited color spectrum and you would need at least one for growing in veg. and a second one for bloom. You would also have to use a fan to blow on the heat sink to disipate the heat better.
ragnardanneskjold
ragnardanneskjold
@Philindicus, i put in my 3k ledstrips from the bucket, maybe that helps. the thing about life expectancy without fans/heatsinks is interesting, didnt think of that. Just listened to a podcast about leds actually, "cannabis cultivation & science podcast", very interesting learning what leds actually are and how they work.
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 4
She looks perfect.Get ready she's going to start stretching soon. Your humidity will go up and down when you water.You can try to tuck a few larger fan leaves out of the way to give more light to the lower stems. You may want to have a cal/mag suppliment on hand they will start using up these when she starts budding. I think I see a few tiny spots starting on one of the lowest fan leaves.
ragnardanneskjold
ragnardanneskjold
@Philindicus, yes there are some spots there, saw them today. thanks for pointing that out. garden store here I come!! gave her nutrients from seed like the newb i am, been flushing her the last few weeks now (and she grew like crazy) and just now started giving her nutrients with her water again. thats the hard part for me, knowing what she needs.. so many things/signs to look for.. hats off to the experts!!
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimarweek 3
Wow, very well done.. nice development
Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar
@@@ragnardanneskjold,Thats true its a great adventure to grow eed, totally addictive, and much to learn in every grow. And yes you got a lady, if calyxes show hairs...
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 1
Did these for my first grow you can check out the diary hope it helps you out a bit. Good luck
ragnardanneskjold
ragnardanneskjold
@Philindicus, thanks!! Its a steep learning curve but really rewarding seeing her grow :)
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 1
The hardest thing in the beginning is to not over water your seedlings and young plants. Try to let them dry out a bit between waterings. The roots will grow deeper in the pots looking for moisture. Also with auto flower its better to put them in their final size pots rather than repotting them.
ragnardanneskjold
ragnardanneskjold
@Philindicus,thats some good tips, thanks kind sir. i always fear im over watering, but i dont want to starve her either, i can see how this is a common mistake for beginners :)
ChefDan420
ChefDan420week 1
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ragnardanneskjold
ragnardanneskjold
@ChefDan420, yesterday i learned you can put the seeds in water until they sink and then put in a paper towel until they are ready. Seemed like a good way to jump start the process. Will def try that next time :)
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 9
When your ready to harvest cut all the big fan leaves off the branches. Then try to remove the larger leaves off the buds. I usually cut the tips off anything not covered in trichomes. Hang her in a dark spot with about 50-60% humidity and let them dry slowly over 5 to 7 days. You can start removing the smaller buds first then the larger ones last. I put mine in a quart glass jar with a mini cigar humidity meter you can get them on amazon one for each jars is great. The idea is to get them down to 62% by removing the top of the jar several times a day, then a few times a day, then once a day when they stabilize at 62-63%. Then I add a boveda 62% humidity pack. If your jar hits over 68% humidity take the larger buds out put them on a tray for a few hours then put them back in the jar. Repeat if needed. Take a good smell from the jar when you open it. It may have a green smell to it at first then it will fade into the classic kush smell and it will intensify. You will notice a big change over a period of a few weeks. When you dry them slow the chlorophyll and sugars get broken down by natural aerobic bacteria which need a little bit of moisture and fresh oxygen to survive. If you go the fast route your weed will smell like hay forever and be harsh. I dry about one week jar them, burp them, then cure at least 2 weeks before I even try to burn any. This allows the THC-A (acid form) to turn into THC The longer the cure the better. It will intensify the odors and mellow out any harshness. It's a difficult topic to describe but there's a medium/fine line between not dry enough to start jarring them up or leaving them to over dry which can also cause a few issues. I've even seen and read a few articles about people putting there buds into a brown paper bag or cardboard box or even turkey bags to help them dry a bit slower. But I feel good air circulation is better to avoid mold issues. It looks like your going to have some really nice smoke when your done. It takes a lot of patience but it's worth the wait.
Philindicus
Philindicusweek 9
What happened? Your not doing diaries anymore?
ragnardanneskjold
ragnardanneskjoldweek 5
First time grower, get nervous every time she does something new :) Wierd colors all over now, but shes still growing slightly. Guess ill just have to be patient and observe. Thanks for all the input and help, makes my day!