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FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds

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13
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867
9 months ago
VEG
LED / 400W
Light
FLO
LED / 800W
Light
Indoor
Room Type
Soilless
Medium
LST
Technique
HST
Technique
Topping
Technique
Defoliation
Technique
Photos & Videos
Candy Cane Auto
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. Candy Cane Auto
All 3 placed in cups
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. All 3 placed in cups
8 hours later, 2 of the 3 sank. This was one of the 2. Moving to paper towel momentarily. (16hours or so)
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. 8 hours later, 2 of the 3 sank. This was one of the 2. Moving to paper towel momentarily. (16hours or so)
48 hrs after coming out of the cup. 1/2
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. 48 hrs after coming out of the cup. 1/2
2/2
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. 2/2
72 hours later... I passed out overnight too early... Got pretty drunk on my 30th. Forgot about the germys, they got pretty dry in the night. Noticed the tap root looking less swollen and white.
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. 72 hours later... I passed out overnight too early... Got pretty drunk on my 30th. Forgot about the germys, they got pretty dry in the night. Noticed the tap root looking less swollen and white.
Bounced back 4 hours later. Should be able to get them in the jiffys tomorrow morning!
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. Bounced back 4 hours later. Should be able to get them in the jiffys tomorrow morning!
Took this picture at the same time as the GSC.
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. Took this picture at the same time as the GSC.
Going in! Not as big of a tap root as the GSC but it'll do.
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. Going in! Not as big of a tap root as the GSC but it'll do.
These 2 lights, but newer full specs. Any worry running a 600w in that space?
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. These 2 lights, but newer full specs. Any worry running a 600w in that space?
All tucked in.
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. All tucked in.
New baller dollar store domes. Can't beat cheap.
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. New baller dollar store domes. Can't beat cheap.
Close up in the dome.
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. Close up in the dome.
She's almost up and out. Tomorrow morning I'll likely call it Day 1.
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. She's almost up and out. Tomorrow morning I'll likely call it Day 1.
Full shot
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. Full shot
Short video upload of my tent.
00:49
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. Short video upload of my tent.
Day 1 of Veg. Starts today! 1/2.
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. Day 1 of Veg. Starts today! 1/2.
VD1. 2/2. 12 hours later.
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. VD1. 2/2. 12 hours later.
VD2, not much change overnight for her.
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. VD2, not much change overnight for her.
VD3. Some bizarre small holes are appearing in the first set of leaves. 1/2
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. VD3. Some bizarre small holes are appearing in the first set of leaves. 1/2
VD3. 2/2
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. VD3. 2/2
VD4. - Added honest measurements.
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. VD4. - Added honest measurements.
VD5. Likes the adjustment in the tent. 1/2
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. VD5. Likes the adjustment in the tent. 1/2
VD5. 2/2
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. VD5. 2/2
VD6. 1/2.
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. VD6. 1/2.
VD6. 2/2.
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. VD6. 2/2.
VD7. 1/2. She's a slow grower.
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. VD7. 1/2. She's a slow grower.
VD7. 2/2.
FTG - Candy Cane Auto - Crop King Seeds week 1. VD7. 2/2.
Grow Conditions
Week 1
Vegetation
3.81
inch
cm
Height
1.5
inch
cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
26
°F
°C
Day Air Temperature
79
°F
°C
Day Air Temperature
6.6
pH
58%
Air Humidity
21
°F
°C
Solution Temperature
70
°F
°C
Solution Temperature
23
°F
°C
Substrate Temperature
74
°F
°C
Substrate Temperature
21
°F
°C
Night Air Temperature
69
°F
°C
Night Air Temperature
3
gal
l
Pot Size
11.36
gal
l
Pot Size
60.96
inch
cm
Lamp To Plant Distance
24
inch
cm
Lamp To Plant Distance
450 PPM
CO₂ Level
0.12
gal
l
Watering Volume Per Plant Per 24h
0.45
gal
l
Watering Volume Per Plant Per 24h
Nutrients
ml/l
ml/gal
tsp/gal
Gia Green - All Purpose - 4-4-4
59.15 ml/gal
ml/l
ml/gal
tsp/gal
Commented by JBOrganix JBOrganix
11 months ago

1 - (03/14) Starting my new seeds, my other order for the Barney's never came in the mail. Must be "lost"... Decided to go get something semi locally. Picked up 2 strains and got the free Early Miss as well. Germination has started as of 03/13, paper towel transfer at 03/14 (approximately 16 hours later). Tent is sanitized and the new LED I'll be running is almost here. (Decided to wait on the full spectrum) Following guidelines as per Crop Kings recommendation for germination. We'll see in the next 48 how well they have developed under the paper towel. This plant will be grown alongside the Early Miss and quite possibly the GSC from Sun West Genetics as well. The GSC and EM will have separate diaries, so be sure to check those out as well! This grown will be done in the Indo 4*2*5 tent. Thank you to everyone that chimed in on my last failed grows, I look forward to some success after the excellent suggestions I received from everybody. Super excited! Happy growing!

2 - 03/16 - Looks like a good start to the germination. 48 hours after they were dumped from the glasses. Waiting for those t roots to get a bit bigger yet.

3 - 03/17 - 72 Hours later, forgot to get in the tent and remoisten the paper towels last night, just got up at 4am and they were pretty dry. Tap root looks to have lost some moisture, I'm just hoping I didn't already fuck them up this time. Shouldn't have drank so much on my 30th. Happy Saint Patrick's day to y'all! Hopefully they suck up some water and bounce back by midday. Going to put them in jiffys or rock cubes tomorrow.

4 - 03/18 - Planted in their first pots.
Due to the nature of my last grow, I've decided to start the other 2 girls in a jiffy. Placed the jiffy into a smaller pot (approx. .25g?) That is filled with my Mo Koko, gia green organics 4-4-4 all purpose, 40% worm castings and a higher 60-70% perlite ratio. I plan on testing the runoff from the pots and the Early Miss is in a felt pot, so I figured it would be a great idea to accommodate for the additional moisture those felt ones hang onto. Probably going to uproot the EM tonight and transfer it to a jiffy as well then get it into a plastic pot. (Edit - decided against it) I'm going to run two 3 gallon pot sizes for both of my autos and eventually upsize to a 5 gallon for the GSC PP. Going to get some nicer domes today. Getting pumped. Almost through the germination process and onto Day 1 of Veg. :sunglasses:
Video update later today!

5 - 03/19 - All the girls are popping up out of the soil and should shed the seedling casings within 24hrs. Off to a much better start! The EM somehow came out, big surprise to see it. Not as pronounced as the other girls, but nonetheless. Stoked. Ended my day by them officially being in Veg Day 1.

6 - 03/20 - Well yesterday was officially day 1 of week 1 in Veg and as of this morning all 3 girls look great. Definitely feeling more confident this time through.

7 - 03/23 - Made some adjustments to the diary, measured the girls and corrected my Veg days. Moving forward, I'll do week to week updates on the girls and daily pictures of growth progress.

8 - 03/26 - Day 7 for all the girls. CC is definitely on the weakest link list. The EM has shocked me entirely. GSC is progressing as I figured she should. Today I am finally going to scoop my new light. So stoked :raised_hands: Girls get to go into week 2 with a heavy adjustment on their total wattage. I'll update later this evening with a photo update and video of the new light and the girls. Thanks for following, don't forget to hit the like! Cheers :seedling:

End of the week, new lights in the tent. Running a bit hot right now so I have some work cut out for me. On to the next week.

Grow Questions
JBOrganix week 1 started grow question 11 months ago
Looking for a suggestion, check the photos of the lights for the details. My space is a 4L×2W×5T. Just wondering if anyone has experience with a similar space and running LED system with either 300w or 600w. I'd like to go the distance.
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QUEENoftheLARF answered grow question 11 months ago
Hey there ive got a 4x5x2 going right now too, with 2 300 leds. It was going good with 1 when the plants were smaller, but once they got a little bigger they needed their own light. This rose the temperature and i needed to add on a 4 in intake duct fan, it helped but lowered humidity intensely. My 2 36 inch plants are handling the light well but also running out of decent light to plant space...so definitely lst or top etc and you'll have much more room to work with and maybe won't battle some slight light burn like mine. Especially with the bump up to the 600 watt light you'll definitely want to keep the plants as low and flat canopy as possible. Good luck with the new gear. Love the baller dollar dome lol.:v:
JBOrganix week 6 started grow question 10 months ago
Clearly she's heavily stunted, yet she is showing some good signs of strong production at the bud sites. Any thoughts on what could have been the actual reason it's stunted/dwarfed? Did I potentially over-train? Funky seed? Transplant issues? Have a look through the weeks, lmk!
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Philindicus answered grow question 10 months ago
For starters work with what you have. Personally I think topping/ fimming small auto flowers is a waste of time. Their life span is so short you lose valuable vegetative time/energy when you top. If she was a XL or XXL variety and you had limited room it would work. LST is the way to go. Your ph of 6.6 could be part of the issue it's too high for soil less you should be down around 5.7 to 6.0. You should also be checking the ph and TDS of your runoff to give you a better idea of whats going on in the root zone. The lower ph would have helped the roots take in more nutrients. I also think you may have been under feeding her. I'm unsure about the N-P-K ratio of your nutes but you may want to tweek your regime by either increasing your nutes or using additional beneficial products. Don't be fooled by the size of the plant sometimes the smaller buds are the most potent. Good luck
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Comments
QUEENoftheLARF
QUEENoftheLARF week 1

Hey so i had 2 different brand 300 watt leds...and it was insane how much better the 1 worked over the other. The plant under the faulty light was much less matured and far less trichromes...i replaced that light with a new one, it must only be good for veg not flower.:v:

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JBOrganix
JBOrganix

@Ga4rd2en0er, my mistake. www.growindo.com

JBOrganix
JBOrganix

@Ga4rd2en0er, I grabbed mine from Indo Products in Surrey, British Columbia Canada. I think the website is www.indoproducts.ca or com. It's a business, they are registered and the equipment is top quality. They do tons of different equipment and have some pretty large tents. 10'*10' soon in stock. I'll post some information on the nutrients I'm using for the one. They are done by Indo as well (you can find them online) Btw. That's exactly where I'm trying to be. I've done all the math and I can likely run 2 400's with good success. They suggested that, but I was tempted to see the output of the 800 and push my space to it's maximum.

Ga4rd2en0er
Ga4rd2en0er

@JBOrganix, sorry, i read through and couldn't determin whom you bought the lights from. Is it an actual business or a small home garage operation? I like to run my rooms at around 50 to 60w per sqft if possible. Ive hermied a plant in the past from too intense led lighting. Thanks for the info!!

Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerilla week 1

Howdy-
I feel your pain regarding the battle of light versus heat..I'm pulling my hair out for the past several days with finding the right combination of light and ventilation in my rig now that I'm trying to run two flowering tents in the room instead of just one...if I can pull it off I'll have a helluva harvest, but I'm not sure what it will take to achieve optimal flowering temps without sacrificing too much PAR quite yet...:confused:

If you haven't grown Candy Cane yet, you're gonna love it. Delicious and plenty potent. If you let them go to about 30%-40% amber trichromes before you kill them, it will kick your ass.:+1:

If you can dramatically increase the CO2 levels in your tent, you can get away with much more light...and also much more HEAT without any detrimental effects to your crop. Strive for maintaining 1400ppm while your lights are on...achieve that, and your plants can tolerate 100f temps during flower with no leaf damage, diminished flavor, aroma, or potency.

Also, I've seen much, and had some success with quantum board or quantum bar lights. You can get beaucoup PAR without nearly as much heat as COBs or blurples...especially if you have some direct airflow over them.

Good luck with finding the perfect balance!

Silverback_Guerilla
Silverback_Guerilla

@JBOrganix,
With autos, I always think it best to transplant as early as possible, but I did have to transplant one on my last grow about a week after it started flowering...and she did fine.

JBOrganix
JBOrganix

@Silverback_Guerilla, I still have to transplant my GSC at some point here. I was thinking about either doing it at the start of week 3 or end of 3. Just not sure if waiting will be too late or going straight at it now being too soon. Any thoughts? Thanks! :seedling:

JBOrganix
JBOrganix

@Silverback_Guerilla, really appreciate the comment. What kind of space are you working with? I debated on not even tenting as it's already in a 10*4 closet. I think the 800w just made me nervous, likely a smart buy in the end but didn't want to do any damage with light burn or otherwise. I will upgrade to the 2 / 400s. (Should achieve 600 total then) I wanted to be at least 600w for a 4*2 canopy space. My space never leaves 40-60 Rh. Even outside my tent. As for co2. I'm currently not running any. Just posted for 450 as that's a near standard for air in a room that size with the transfer I have going. I almost did the burple but went with the cree full spectrum unit. I think it's their bulbs under a custom ballast box unit. I was going to go into a different lighting unit all together but the price point for these two is unbeatable. $150 /400w $300 /800w. I ended up getting some more filters and fans which has changed my atmospheric temps and kept my tent at roughly 75.8 - 79.5. doesn't leave that during lights on, no cooler than 70 at night. Hopefully it gets sorted for flower. Feeling like I'll be running the 2 400's. I'm tempted on trying a sunrise and sunset style run going from L-R 6hrs for left, both run 6, then 6 for right. I also have some supplemental side profiled lighting. 18k T5's that are high burple specific. Lots of purples less blues. It's a marine light and I use them for the first and last hour of each day

Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar week 1

The true wattage is 300 w? then i would start with around 40 cm from the plants, and watch them. Maybe you have your grow light from your grow before .... i woud use it until they are old enough for more

Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimar

@JBOrganix,looking good!!

JBOrganix
JBOrganix

@Mrs_Larimar, thanks for the reply. I did return the Home Depot special. It was only 32 true watts. I still currently have my 2 T5's with a 24" 10k bulb and a 12" 18k bulb. Just lowered the 24" over top of my dome canopy. You can see the update in the video/photos.

buddha61
buddha61 week 1

Best of luck. I would be careful about adding too much perlite. It can cause you to have to water more often, as you have less medium to hold moisture near the roots.

JBOrganix
JBOrganix

@buddha61, thanks! Yeah I was slightly cautious of the perlite. I've seen a few grows now that have benefited from the additional perlite content to the coco medium. I had concerns before with them hanging onto too much moisture; this has me watering once every 2 days currently. I'm sure things will change once it starts to get some legs.

NomNom
NomNom week 1

Love the martini glass!

JBOrganix
JBOrganix

@NomNom, thanks! I like the convenience. Just grabbed a few random clean unused containers I had kicking around!