Mom’s 3rd Indoor Grow- Sour Crack

@@SeedLover, I have watched all of Harley Smith’s free videos that I could find. Total agreement on building a healthy, living soil/medium for quality results and solid yields. He is very smart and easy to watch and I’ve learned alot from his tutorials in a short amount of time. Thanks for your thoughts on this grow and I hope I can call on you in future for advice if needed. 🙏🙏😘

@Momgrowsthechronic, sorry it took me 4 days to answer! I understand your thought process, you get better through testing and experimenting anyway. Bloom nutes normally contain less N than Veg nutes so you're better off using the Veg nutes in veg. If there is any reason for me to use Bloom nutes in Veg it could be because of the higher content of Phosphorus in Bloom nutes, and Phosphorus helps with growing roots. But there is enough of it in majority of Veg nutes. I might be wrong but I don't think it's very useful to do the mid-grow-flush IF you haven't been over fertilizing. You should flush your plants at any stage of their growth IF you over fertilised, or let the medium dry out too much. Feeding the soil correctly is the key for a balanced nutrition indeed. Yes I know Mr. Canuck Grows, he's rather good :D! But I want to recommend you Harley Smith, he's a professor and know a whole lot about organic living soils. Good luck to you!

@@SeedLover, thank you so much for taking the time to comment on my grow. I wanted to clarify a few things for you so that you understand my thought process through this grow. First off, I’m in ProMix HP which is a peat based medium similar to coco as far as aeration/drainage. I put these into larger pots right away because many growers warn about autoflowers not responding well to transplanting. I’ve been following a feed schedule that I came across online which calls for bloom nutes from start to finish because of the higher Nitrogen content. This feed schedule also (according to the grower who wrote the post) does not require a mid-grow flush. Because I’m still a newbie, I tweaked the schedule a bit here and there but obviously it did not work well for these plants at all. I do agree with you that the medium most likely became overloaded with unused/xtra nutes and these plants have suffered through the last weeks of this grow because of it. I am trying something completely new with my next grow- using coco thats been amended with organic dry nutes (Gaia Greens is the brand I’m going to try). Instead of feeding the plants, I’m going to feed the medium. Seems more natural, just have to water with PH’d water and if needed- add more nutes by top dressing your medium (coco). There is a Canadian YouTube grower named “Mr. Canuck grows" and it’s his method that I’m going to try. Thanks for your thoughts, really appreciate that. You turned on the little light bulb in my brain and got me thinking that what I thought was a deficiency was actually a nute burn/overdose. Going to purchase a combo EC, TDS, PPM meter still, that way I can keep an eye on when my medium needs to be reamended during future grows. Thank you again. 😉

@Philindicus, first off, thank you so much for taking time out of your busy day to comment on my issues. After reading ur replies, I am going to try changing things up a bit. After an even closer look at my ladies, I can see two major distinctions between the rust spots. The first spots that showed up early last week were rusty/brown patches that quickly grew larger and began killing the entire leaf within days. These patches along with the red petioles, stem striping and leaves curled down are indicative of a Phosphorus deficiency. I upped the P&K and this issue seems to have improved somewhat. Then the yellowing began and it has moved up both plants- it’s starts out as kind of a random, cloudy yellowing that becomes more pronounced as the days go by. Eventually there are rusty/brown patches on these as well and the leaf dies. Now, I’m seeing tiny rust spots identical to what I had during my last grow which was definitely a Calcium deficiency 100%. My best guess is that I should have sped everything up (nutrient wise) because as you mentioned- this is a fast flowering strain 8-9 weeks. I think this was a Phosphorus deficiency and now it’s a touch of Calcium deficiency too :( I have taken ur advice regarding removing 4 mls of the Sensi Bloom part A to compensate for upping the CalMag to 4 mls for now. I had never thought about doing it that way but it makes perfect sense when trying to avoid too much Nitrogen. Thx for that, I will be using that growing forward. I know for sure that I’m not overwatering, the roots are not too wet (I check sometimes with my soil meter just too be sure) and my fan is not blowing directly on my ladies. So, I hope that by adding in the extra CalMag, keeping the Nitrogen under control and keeping the P&K where it needs to be- I can nurse these ladies through to harvest. So far, the buds are still building and I think that’s a good sign. Once again, thanks!

@Momgrowsthechronic, You should have shown a picture of the leaf so we can see what it is. So far in my grows it seems to really start showing deficiencies in the lowest fan leaves during week 6 so I started adding cal/mag in week 4. I think your right give her what she wants more cal/mag as long as your sure her roots aren't too wet. I have read some comments in other diaries about if the area of the leaves around the veins looks puffy or raised is a sign the roots are too wet.If that is the case the roots can't take up the calcium efficiently. I see signs of this in your photos. I would let her dry out and see if the leaves lose that hook on them. Also I was just on Cannas website their nutrient deficiency guide describes red verticle streaking in the main stems and red leaf stems as a nitrogen deficiency once again if the roots are wet this could be the cause. It's so hard to call I would hate to give bad advice. Maybe you should use your grow question and get a few more opinions.

@Philindicus, do u think it’s possible that this could be a CalMag deficiency? I’ve only been giving 2.5 mls per gallon as a preventative dose. My last grow was a CalMag hog and slurped up 4-5 mls per gallon in order to stay healthy and green. I’m thinking about upping this in the hopes that the yellowing stops. The only reason I didn’t do this sooner is because the rust spots started at the bottom of the plant when last time I had a full on Calcium deficiency it definitely affected the top first and worked its way down. With adding in the Big Bud + base nutes they should be receiving more than enough Phosphorus yet the yellowing continues. Thus my reason for thinking this could be a CalMag issue. Let me know what u think, much appreciated!

@Philindicus, my feeding schedule is a tweaked version of Tang’s easy feed auto schedule. I love the ease, convenience and affordability and I’ve just made some adjustments along the way and added in the Big Bud/Overdrive to supplement the extra P & K. Depending on what strain I’m growing, I tweak the schedule to meet it’s needs. Thank you Tang for a great feeding schedule that seems to work for almost any strain grown in a medium similar to ProMix! Love it 😍

@Momgrowsthechronic,Great I would like to keep trying a few different growing mediums until I find one thats works best for me. I like your feeding schedule because your able to start nutes earlier. It almost reminds me of an old grower TaNgs feeding schedule. I definately need to try feeding a bit earlier to get more veg growth and .bud sights.

@Philindicus, I do not add any lime to the mix as the Promix is pretty much the perfect product right out of the bag. My PH remains steady throughout the grow and I only check the numbers with a soil meter if I suspect something is off. So far I have been very satisfied with the Promix HP and I can generally get 3-5 grows (using 5-7 gallon pots) out of a 60lb bale/cube. No bugs, no root rot if properly watered and easy to flush at the end of the grow- I love it! 😍

@Momgrowsthechronic, I thought I was going to keep it simple also but now I'm diving in head first. I am starting to lean more towards coco with Roots organic original but don't want to go full hydro. I may switch to coco when I'm finished with my nutes. I already have too many bottles of stuff. I wish I had more room I have some sour crack in my refrigerator I'd like to do. You still have a great grow. Look forward to your harvest.

@Philindicus, I’m looking into purchasing a 3in1 TDS, EC, PPM meter because I definitely feel that nutrients/nutrient concentration in my medium played a part in my plants’ slow demise. I am also thinking about going an entirely new route with coco and organic dry amendments instead of feeding synthetic, bottled nutes. But these ladies are what they are and the bud still looks decent and smells great. In fact, I’m most likely harvesting the oldest two plants this weekend to make room for starting my outdoor summer seedlings!

@GreenHouseLab, I’m removing 4 mls of part A because I’m adding 4 mls of CalMag into the mix. I was concerned that my plants were getting too much Nitrogen so a fellow grower suggested lowering the part A to compensate for the Nitrogen in the CalMag. These buds are definitely denser than my last grow so that’s an improvement overall. Thx for checkin in!

@SHAMMYDOG, I am growing in ProMix HP (high porosity) which seems to be similar to coco in many ways. I wait until my pots are almost completely dry before watering again which is every second day. I have never checked my ppm (although I probably should) as I’m trying to keep my grow as simple as possible and my plants seem to be healthy and green. Thx for checking out my grow and the advice is always appreciated! 👍