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Fission 300W Light Emitting Diodes/450W
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Defoliation
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19 L
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Week 1. Vegetation
6 years ago
2.54 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6
30 %
21 °C
21 °C
20 °C
19 L
0 L
101.6 cm
Here we grow again and this time it’s Memphisto Genetics Sour Crack! Not much to talk about yet as two of the little ladies are only 1 week old and the other two just came up today. So here’s the breakdown for this my 3rd indoor grow: I seem to be very lucky when starting seedlings and once again I had a 100% germination rate! All 4 seeds were planted in damp Jiffy peat pellets on a Tuesday evening (C & D were planted exactly one week after A & B) and up out of the dirt by the following Saturday morning. So, about 4 days for these beauties to actually germinate. I then move them over to their final 5 gallon fabric pots and watch them grow! FYI- I date my plants from the day they break soil not from the day I plant the seed. Plants A & B are at the end of week 1, both at day #7. Looking healthy so far! Plants C & D are just up from seed this morning, day #1. These ladies are exactly one week apart. No nutrients as of yet but I will be starting with 0.5 of a ml/litre starting on day 10. As for watering, it’s 500 mls (a standard plastic water bottle) for each plant every other/second day. The water is adjusted using General Hydroponics PH down to a final PH of 6.0. I also keep a gentle fan on these gals from day one, keeping them moving just a little to ensure strong stems and branches. Thanks for checkin out my grow and I’ll be back in one week for the next update. Happy growing everyone! 😀
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Week 2. Vegetation
6 years ago
5.08 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6
30 %
21 °C
21 °C
20 °C
19 L
0 L
96.52 cm
Nutrients 2
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A 0.5 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B 0.5 mll
So it’s the end of week 2 for plants A & B and the end of week 1 for plants C & D. There’s not a whole lot to talk about as the plants are still so small but here’s the rundown for week 2 of the Sour Crack grow... Plants A & B- are both looking great so far. They are already growing their 3rd set of true leaves hopefully with 5 finger blades each. Although these ladies are only about 2 inches tall, they are already forming little leaves where branches will be growing soon. I’ve never seen a plant this young working so hard to push branches instead of focusing on vertical growth. Plants A & B were fed this past week starting on Day 10. Plants C & D- are doing well for only being a week old. They are just beginning to push out their 2nd set of true leaves hopefully with 3 finger blades each. They are about 1 inch tall and looking healthy moving forward. Water and Nutrients- all 4 plants are being watered every other day at a rate of 500 mls each per watering (a standard disposable plastic water bottle=500 mls). Plants A & B were started on nutes on Day 10. I am once again using Advanced Nutrients Sensi Bloom parts A & B starting out with a dose of 0.5 mls per litre. This amount will increase again at intervals of one week and by Day 17- they will be upped to 1 ml/litre. Plants C & D have only had PH’d water so far but they will be starting with the same nutrient schedule as thier older sisters when they reach their own Day 10 this coming week. Happy growing everyone and I’ll see ya next week! 🙏
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Week 3. Vegetation
6 years ago
12.7 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6
30 %
21 °C
21 °C
20 °C
19 L
0 L
76.2 cm
Nutrients 2
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A 1 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B 1 mll
Hello everyone, it’s already the end of week 3 for Plants A & B and the end of week 2 for Plants C & D. Other than lowering the lights a little, it’s been a pretty quiet week in the tent. In regards to the lighting, both fixtures were lowered twice- about 5 days apart & 4 inches lower each time, leaving them at approximately 30" above the plants for now. I am rotating the plants from front to back weekly so that all of them can take advantage of various positions within the tent. All 4 ladies seem to be tolerating the lighting changes happily sunbathing their days away... envious ;) Plants A & B- have grown considerably over the past week. Plant B has taken the lead as the larger of the two but both of these gals appear to be extremely healthy, lush and green. They began showing their sex this past week with tiny white pistols appearing on both plants and branch development continues at an unprecedented pace to anything I’ve grown previously. They are still short at only 5" at 3 weeks but I’ve always believed that good things come in small packages! Plants C & D- are right on schedule, exactly one week behind their older sisters. Plant C is the smaller of the two but both of them have developed their second set of true leaves with 3 fingers each. The third set is already pushing through, hopefully with 5 fingers a piece! Once again the tiny leaves are growing where branches will soon be and both plants should grow quickly over the upcoming week. Plants C & D are 2" tall at 2 weeks and looking great! Watering and Nutes- all 4 plants are still being watered every second day with 500 mls or a 1/2 litre per feeding. The 2 larger ladies will have their water increased this upcoming week to 750 mls maybe even 1 litre per feeding. As far as nutes go, Plants A & B had their nutes increased on day #17 to 1 ml/litre. Plants C & D were started on nutes on day #10 at a rate of .05 ml/litre. All 4 plants A,B,C & D seem to be well fed/watered so far and I will adjust as per needed. Thx for checking out my grow and I’ll be back at the end of next week for another update, happy growing everyone!
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Week 4. Vegetation
6 years ago
27.94 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6
30 %
21 °C
21 °C
20 °C
19 L
1 L
63.5 cm
Nutrients 3
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A 1.5 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B 1.5 mll
Cal-Mag Plus  - Botanicare
Cal-Mag Plus 0.5 mll
Well it’s the end of week 4 for Plants A & B and the end of week 3 for C & D. All 4 plants are growing well and things have been pleasantly uneventful in the tent. Spring is finally here in Canada and the temps inside the tent are reflecting that with 80-82 degrees on the really nice days. The plants seem to be loving the warmth and higher humidity levels typical to a classic Canadian spring. Plants A & B- have both doubled their vertical height this past week as well as bushing out quite nicely. Plant A is the taller of the two currently measuring in at 11" tall. She is more sparse yet healthy, green and happy. Plant B is shorter at 10" tall but super bushy and branching out like crazy! I have been ponytailing the upper growth of both plants for 6-8 hours, everyother day to encourage lower branch growth. I have also begun with some LST to spread those lower branches out beyond the upper canopy. I might also add that leaf tucking is absolutely essential at this stage of growth. Keeping those large fan leaves tucked beneath new growth tips allows for maximum light penetration without having to remove leaves altogether- ouch! Plants A & B are both looking like they are in pre-flower so I’m hoping for at least another week of strong vertical growth before full budding kicks in... Plants C & D- are both measuring in at around 5" tall each and looking great so far. Plant C seems to be the runt of this litter as she is the smallest and has had the slowest branch development so far. She is absolutely healthy, just taking her sweet time compared to her sisters. Plant D is actually 5.5" tall and was the first of these two plants to show her sex at the beginning of this past week. Both plants are now showing sex with lots of tiny white pistols growing up all over! Hopefully Plants C & D experience their much needed growth spurt this upcoming week so that I can start with some LST/ponytailing with these gals too! Water and Nutes- all 4 plants are being watered every second day with 1 litre per feeding and they seem to be fine with it so far. As for nutes, A & B were upped on day 24 to 1.5 mls/litre or 6 mls/gallon of base nutes and I’ve added in .5 ml/litre of CalMag for good measure too. I find that most plants grown under LED lighting in soilless medium will need a little CalMag to keep green and healthy throughout the entire grow. Plants C & D were also upped on their day 17 to 1 ml/litre or 4 mls/gallon of base nutes and will have the CalMag added in this upcoming week. So far so good, the nutrients seem to be adequately feeding all 4 of these lovely ladies! That’s it for this week, thx for checkin in and I’ll see you at the end of week 5 for the next update- happy growing everyone!
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Week 5. Flowering
6 years ago
45.72 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6
35 %
21 °C
21 °C
20 °C
19 L
1 L
45.72 cm
Nutrients 4
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A 2.113 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B 2.113 mll
Big Bud - Advanced Nutrients
Big Bud 1.057 mll
So, it’s the end of week 5- day 35 for plants A & B and the end of week 4- day 28 for plants C & D. Temperatures are still pleasant within the tent at anywhere from 78-80 degrees and the humidity is good (compared to my usual) coming in at 35-40%. These lovely ladies are almost halfway through this grow (according to Memphisto Genetics) and all 4 plants are growing nicely with no major issues or deficiencies. Plants A & B- are both fully into flower at this point. Plant A is the tallest of the entire group measuring in at 18". She has continued to stretch this past week gaining an additional 7" (1 inch/day). Plant B is 15" tall and remains the bushiest of the group. Unfortunately she has not stretched much this past week, only putting on an additional 5" (.72 inch/day). Because both plants are now flowering, I have just begun using Advanced Nutrients Big Bud to give them a much needed Potassium/Phosphorus boost. Hopefully this will encourage the development of more bud sites- if anything it will simply keep the plants from experiencing any deficiencies during this crucial time. Plants C & D- are both pre-flower at this time. Plant C is still the runt of the litter measuring in at 10" tall. She continues to lag behind her sister in every way (overall size, branch development and preflowers) yet seems to be absolutely healthy. Plant D is growing well at 11" tall and is not as full as her sisters but bushing out steadily. I have been ponytailing and LST’ing with both plants C & D to encourage lower branch growth/development and they seem to be responding well so far. I have also been leaf tucking whenever possible with all 4 plants in an effort to expose all new growth to as much light as possible. Water and nutrients- all 4 plants are still being watered every second day with air bubbled water slightly below room temperature. I have increased the amount to 2 litres/plant per feeding or 1 litre per day per plant. This is not enough to have run off out the bottom of the pot but nutrients are so expensive that I don’t see much sense in wasting them or having standing water in the bottom of the tent. Plants A & B are now at full strength nutrients for this grow (half of what you would feed a photoperiod plant). They are receiving 8 mls/gallon of base nutes parts A & B, 4 mls/gallon of Big Bud and 2.5 mls/gallon of CalMag Plus per feeding. Plants C & D are almost there at 6 mls/gallon of base nutes and 2.5 mls/gallon of CalMag per feeding. The older two of the four plants were looking droopy/wilted towards the end of this past week. They have since perked up and are looking much better after adding in the extra P & K found in the Big Bud. That’s about it for week #5 with the Memphisto Genetics Sour Crack! As the buds begin to develop- the excitement also starts to grow! I can’t wait to see what these small plants produce, the quality/taste of the smoke and how long this strain actually takes to mature/harvest. Thx for stopping by and I will be back for another update at the end of week 6. Until then, happy growing everyone!!! 😇
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Week 6. Flowering
6 years ago
48.26 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
6
Weak
45 %
21 °C
21 °C
20 °C
19 L
1 L
43.18 cm
Nutrients 4
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A 2.113 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B 2.113 mll
Big Bud - Advanced Nutrients
Big Bud 1.057 mll
So, it’s the end of week 6- day 42 for plants A & B and end of week 5- day 35 for plants C & D. I made a change in the tent this past week by adding in the second of two Amazon blurple lights that I own from days gone by... So going further into flowering I’ve got 4 fixtures in the tent using 450 true watts and the plants seem to be lovin it! My temperature is a consistent 80-82 degrees and with all the rain we’ve had recently the humidity is 45-50%. The Electric Sky 180 provides a well balanced natural white light while the cheap blurple’s give the deep reds that these ladies crave in flower. Almost perfect conditions for lush green plants but unfortunately something has been off all week long... :( Plants A & B- both started showing some rusty patches on their older, lower fan leaves. It quickly progressed to yellowing, dying leaves which I have already removed from the plants. They’ve got red petioles, red striping up the main stalk & leaves curling down and after doing some research- I believe that I am dealing with a Phosphorus deficiency. I should have added in the Big Bud immediately when these ladies started flowering as they are obviously craving the extra P & K to remain 100% healthy/happy. The yellowing has slowed significantly/almost stopped since adding in the P/K booster and both plants are looking alright for now. Plant A is now 19" tall while plant B is measuring in at 16". I am hoping that the base nutes + the Big Bud will be enough to pull these gals through until they are mature/ready for harvest. Bud production has really taken off despite the suspected deficiency and they are both frosting up nicely! Plants C & D- were showing the beginnings of the same Phosphorus deficiency but because they are a week behind their sisters- I’ve been able to treat it sooner hopefully preventing significant damage. I have started them on the Big Bud earlier than originally planned and removed a few lower affected leaves but they don’t seem to be yellowing out as much. I suspect that plant C might be close to a touch of Nitrogen toxicity as some of her leaves have hooked tips and she’s pretty dark green. But both plants are holding in there and have continued to stretch this past week. Plant C (aka "the runt") has moved into 3rd place within the group measuring in at 15" tall while plant D falls into 4th place at 14.5". Plant C, although growing taller this past week is still well behind in bud development compared to all the others. Both plants C & D are now fully into flower despite the issues affecting the tent. Water & Nutes- all 4 plants are now receiving the same amount of water/feed every second day. 2 gallons/plant per feeding containing 8 mls/gallon of base nutes + 4 mls/gallon of Big Bud + 2.5 mls/gallon of CalMag Plus. That’s it for this week, hopefully things stabilize a little going forward and I can keep these plants healthy and productive. Growing herb indoors is more challenging than I ever expected yet I welcome the learning curve. I am gaining valuable knowledge every time I encounter and conquer a new problem within the tent. See yall at the end of week 7, until then- happy growing everyone! 🙏
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Week 7. Flowering
6 years ago
48.26 cm
18 hrs
27 °C
6
Normal
38 %
21 °C
21 °C
20 °C
19 L
1 L
43.18 cm
Nutrients 4
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part A 1.057 mll
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B - Advanced Nutrients
pH Perfect Sensi Bloom Part B 2.113 mll
Big Bud - Advanced Nutrients
Big Bud 1.057 mll
Okay, sorry for the late update for this past week but I’ve been super busy with spring chores. So, it’s the end of week 7 for plants A & B and the end of week 6 for C & D. I’ll keep things short and sweet for this update. Plants A & B- are budding nicely as they should be and I seem to have the Phosphorus and CalMag issues under control. I have still had some yellowing leaves with some rust spotting too but I’ve just continued with defoliating the damaged leaves. Plants C & D- plant D is doing great but C is in big trouble! Within a week, she went from having 2 super curly leaves at the very bottom of the plant (that have been there for the whole grow) to almost every leaf on the entire plant curling like crazy! There are a few tiny rust spots on a few of the leaves but overall the majority of the leaves are still completely green. As the leaves get worse, they do develop brown/necrotic spots and then dry out/become crispy. The buds have stopped growing and the entire plant appears to be slowly dying. So, I flushed her and she seems to have perked up a little but I’m still stumped. Is this a deficiency, root rot, Nitrogen toxicity or what? I can’t find a photo of anything online that resembles the super curly leaves and if things don’t change- I’m gonna lose this one :( I’m posting a grow question below... I flushed all 4 plants this past week because I was flushing plant C for her issues. I followed with a light nutrient solution and I haven’t watered since. I’ve been checking daily with a moisture meter to make sure they were almost dry before watering again but they are taking a long time! I thought the ProMix HP would dry out faster but I really soaked them and the humidity has been high so they are taking their sweet time. I will resume my feed/water schedule once the plants are ready. That’s it for now, I’m hoping for improvement in the upcoming week. Thx.
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Momgrowsthechronic
Momgrowsthechronicstarted grow question 6 years ago
I’ve got photos above of Plant C- super curly leaves, they develop brown spots, then dry out/become crispy and I remove them. This moved top to bottom of the plant in 1 week. Deficiency, toxicity, root rot? Plant continued to grow vertically but buds have stalled out. Help!!!
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Ogchemstanswered grow question 6 years ago
Well.... i dont agree with some opinions(alans for example) but everyone have their own opinion. In my opinion this is just a pheno type that you got from a seed that you germinated, it happens sometimes, you get a seeds you germinate everything is fine but then things turn out kinda cringy and we get bad phenos it might be the fault of the seedbank or fault of wrong nutrients or ph, but i dont think it your fault at all. your other plants look in shape! curly leaves might appear from too low Room Humidity (if curling from side to side) or lamps being too close to the leaves, brown spots from calmag deficiency or again... a PH lockout, are you using a PH pen? how often do you feed? text me up on private chat we might work something out! happy growing.
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Week 8. Flowering
6 years ago
48.26 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6
Normal
38 %
21 °C
21 °C
20 °C
19 L
1 L
43.18 cm
Nutrients 3
Overdrive - Advanced Nutrients
Overdrive 1.321 mll
TA pH- - Terra Aquatica
TA pH- 0.462 mll
Cal-Mag Plus  - Botanicare
Cal-Mag Plus 1.057 mll
So, we’re almost there now! It’s day 56, the end of week 8 for plants A & B and day 49, end of week 7 for plants C & D. Things have been a little crazy this past week as all 4 plants are still suffering with some sort of problem (possible deficiency or excess of nutes?). I’m still not quite sure what’s going on and I’ve done everything that I know to do and the fan leaves are still dying. I’m just trying to nurse them through to maturity and a successful harvest. After flushing all 4 plants, I’ve decided to keep things clean and simple by watering with nothing more than air bubbled, just below room temp water with 5 mls of AN Overdrive and 4 mls of CalMag PH’d down to 5.8. I am now watering every 3rd day as they don’t seem to be drinking as much and so far- all 4 plants seem to be responding well. Even the sickly plant C is still trying to do her job and produce some viable bud. Due to heavy rust spotting, then brown spots leading to dry/crispy/dead leaves- I have defoliated almost daily leaving almost no fan leaves on plants A,B & C at this point. Plant D has been the healthiest of the group throughout this entire grow and she also appears to have the most resin so far. Speaking of trichomes, I took some samples from both plants A & B for a 1st look and was surprised to see that even though they are not fully cloudy- there are amber trichs already! Possible harvest at the end of next week- day 63 if things are ready. These ladies smell divine- like ripe mangos with a hint of skunky perfection and they are wet to the touch with sticky, frosty resin. Thanks for stoppin by and I will update again at the end of week 9. Until then, happy growing everyone!
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Week 9. Flowering
6 years ago
48.26 cm
18 hrs
26 °C
6
Normal
38 %
21 °C
21 °C
20 °C
19 L
1 L
43.18 cm
Nutrients 1
TA pH- - Terra Aquatica
TA pH- 0.396 mll
So 2 down and 2 to go. Plants A & B were harvested on day 63, end of week 9 while plants C & D remain in the tent to finish out another week, maybe even two. I’ve done a wet trim as always but I decided to hang branches this time instead of popping all the buds off and using screens. The finished product is hanging in my cold cellar drying at a temp of around 68 degrees with a RH of 45%. Trimming was easy this time around as I chose to leave a lot more of the sugar leaves tucked into the buds. Everything was wet with resin and the smell was overpowering as it spread throughout the house- ripe mangos, skunk and that dank, diesel/ gassy undertone again. Although the yield is much smaller than I’d originally hoped for, the quality seems out of this world! Until next week, happy growing everyone... 😎
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Week 9. Harvest
6 years ago
Happy Harvest Day!
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Mephisto Genetics Sour Crack- what more can I say. This is a cross between two of my favourite strains (24 Karat and Green Crack) and it’s every bit as good as both of these strains combined should be. A sweet mango flavour with a hard hitting, heavy stone takes hold almost immediately upon smoking/vaping and lasts for a solid 2 hours! The hardcore high leans towards the Indica dominance of this strain and I prefer smoking this bud in the evenings or on lazy weekends. Although the yields are small, the buds are super dense and covered with loads of resin. Predictably small, well structured plants make for anxiety free growing in tight spaces while producing some of the best bud I’ve ever smoked. The quick time from seed to harvest makes this strain a perfect choice for someone seeking fully smokeable product in under 10 weeks (pre-cure). I will grow the Sour Crack over and over again as a personal favourite...no doubt this strain is of connoisseur quality and should never be overlooked!
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Spent 64 days
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157 g
Bud wet weight per plant
32 g
Bud dry weight per plant
4
Plants
0.08
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Normal
Difficulty
Positive effects
Happy, Hungry, Relaxed
Positive effects
Negative effects
Dry mouth
Negative effects
Taste
Fruity, Sweet, Tropical
Taste
Sleepy
Energy
Indica
Hybrid
Sativa

Height
Day air temperature
Air humidity
PH
Light schedule
Solution temperature
Night air temperature
Substrate temperature
Pot size
Lamp distance
So, It’s the end of my 3rd indoor grow and even though these plants were more challenging than I expected, it was a success! Plants C & D were harvested on day 63 and the wet weight was 243 grams. So, with all 4 plants combined, we ended up with 628 grams wet/approximately 128 grams dry. The smoke is sublime and tastes pretty good already, after only 7-10 days of drying (pre-cure). I can’t wait to try growing this strain again and growing it sooo much better. I would highly recommend the Sour Crack for anyone growing in a small space yet looking for high quality bud. My hubby has developed quite the tolerance to herb over the years but this strain got him nicely high for the first time in a long while. I love the mango smell/flavour, the short/strong plant stature and the Indica density of the buds during flowering. Overall, I am satisfied with this grow and would suggest that everyone give Mephisto Genetics Sour Crack a try...you won’t be disappointed!0
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Denzul
Denzulcommentedweek 66 years ago
Those are some pretty looking ladies right there, nice work. Also love your lighting set up. Looks great. Keep doing what your doing and beat of luck with the rest of the grow.
SeedLover
SeedLovercommentedweek 86 years ago
Hi there ! :) I have been following your diary since the beginning. In no way am I a pro lol but wanted to give my insight. I don't know what is in your medium and what kind of medium it is (suppose Coco), I'm growing in soil. But I think you put them in the big pots too early because watering becomes a problem (when you don't let the water drip through the bottom of the pot, your medium often becomes a mess and you cannot water a small plant this much in a big pot), the medium either is too wet for the plant or too dry at some spots. When you water a dried out medium with nutes, 99% you'll have nute burn. I think that this is what caused your nute burn more than the fact that you put too much nutes which is possible. I would recommend (from my own mistakes) not to let your medium ever dry out, which can sound contradictory with what often is said but it isn't. Soaking your medium and not letting it dry out (roots die in drought) are different things I think. So medium always moist but never soaked. Clawing leaves (the tips of the leaves curl down EVEN when the leaf looks ok and in worst scenarios the whole leaf claws (happened to me a lot till I bought an EC meter and water every day)/very dark green leaves is a very clear sign of nitrogen excess. Don't give your plants too much N, it really screws the flowering. Then I also noticed you started Bloom nutes on week 3, I think that it's way, way too early, I myself start Bloom nutes only 1-3 weeks into flowering. Honestly buying an EC meter if you don't have one is a must in my opinion, especially in soilless medium. :) I really hope I helped in some way!! Will be following along!
Momgrowsthechronic
Momgrowsthechroniccommented6 years ago
@@SeedLover, I have watched all of Harley Smith’s free videos that I could find. Total agreement on building a healthy, living soil/medium for quality results and solid yields. He is very smart and easy to watch and I’ve learned alot from his tutorials in a short amount of time. Thanks for your thoughts on this grow and I hope I can call on you in future for advice if needed. 🙏🙏😘
SeedLover
SeedLovercommented6 years ago
@Momgrowsthechronic, sorry it took me 4 days to answer! I understand your thought process, you get better through testing and experimenting anyway. Bloom nutes normally contain less N than Veg nutes so you're better off using the Veg nutes in veg. If there is any reason for me to use Bloom nutes in Veg it could be because of the higher content of Phosphorus in Bloom nutes, and Phosphorus helps with growing roots. But there is enough of it in majority of Veg nutes. I might be wrong but I don't think it's very useful to do the mid-grow-flush IF you haven't been over fertilizing. You should flush your plants at any stage of their growth IF you over fertilised, or let the medium dry out too much. Feeding the soil correctly is the key for a balanced nutrition indeed. Yes I know Mr. Canuck Grows, he's rather good :D! But I want to recommend you Harley Smith, he's a professor and know a whole lot about organic living soils. Good luck to you!
Momgrowsthechronic
Momgrowsthechroniccommented6 years ago
@@SeedLover, thank you so much for taking the time to comment on my grow. I wanted to clarify a few things for you so that you understand my thought process through this grow. First off, I’m in ProMix HP which is a peat based medium similar to coco as far as aeration/drainage. I put these into larger pots right away because many growers warn about autoflowers not responding well to transplanting. I’ve been following a feed schedule that I came across online which calls for bloom nutes from start to finish because of the higher Nitrogen content. This feed schedule also (according to the grower who wrote the post) does not require a mid-grow flush. Because I’m still a newbie, I tweaked the schedule a bit here and there but obviously it did not work well for these plants at all. I do agree with you that the medium most likely became overloaded with unused/xtra nutes and these plants have suffered through the last weeks of this grow because of it. I am trying something completely new with my next grow- using coco thats been amended with organic dry nutes (Gaia Greens is the brand I’m going to try). Instead of feeding the plants, I’m going to feed the medium. Seems more natural, just have to water with PH’d water and if needed- add more nutes by top dressing your medium (coco). There is a Canadian YouTube grower named “Mr. Canuck grows" and it’s his method that I’m going to try. Thanks for your thoughts, really appreciate that. You turned on the little light bulb in my brain and got me thinking that what I thought was a deficiency was actually a nute burn/overdose. Going to purchase a combo EC, TDS, PPM meter still, that way I can keep an eye on when my medium needs to be reamended during future grows. Thank you again. 😉
Philindicus
Philindicuscommentedweek 66 years ago
First off they look great. All of the above has happened to me also. I tend to be heavy handed with the watering sometimes I've seen this curl then slight droop after a heavy watering. Also if the fan is blowing on them too much they can curl. The red stems with purple streaks running up the main stem could be caused by a phosphorus deficiency. Seems like AN nutrients seem to have a higher nitrogen than phosphorus content.Hard to tell in the photos but some of your leaves look very dark green because of the nitrogen. You can possibly lower your part A by the amount of Cal/Mag you add to lower your N. You also have a 12 degree day/night temperature difference which could be causing the purple/red because of the indica genetics in the strain. Since you don't check ppms I personally would let them go drier than usual then try giving them a bit of a flush then add nutes to the last part of the flush then let them dry out before next watering and see how they react. Without knowing the runnoff ppm's you cant be sure if that was the issue. You also mentioned you added more lights and wattage. Maybe back off your lights a bit. I have read a few articles about plants under high wattage LEDS needing less nutrients because photosynthesis is now more efficient. Also since this is a 8 to 9 week strain normally and we like to break all the rules you can start switching to adding Overdrive a bit early to add more phosphorus. Good luck.
Momgrowsthechronic
Momgrowsthechroniccommented6 years ago
@Philindicus, first off, thank you so much for taking time out of your busy day to comment on my issues. After reading ur replies, I am going to try changing things up a bit. After an even closer look at my ladies, I can see two major distinctions between the rust spots. The first spots that showed up early last week were rusty/brown patches that quickly grew larger and began killing the entire leaf within days. These patches along with the red petioles, stem striping and leaves curled down are indicative of a Phosphorus deficiency. I upped the P&K and this issue seems to have improved somewhat. Then the yellowing began and it has moved up both plants- it’s starts out as kind of a random, cloudy yellowing that becomes more pronounced as the days go by. Eventually there are rusty/brown patches on these as well and the leaf dies. Now, I’m seeing tiny rust spots identical to what I had during my last grow which was definitely a Calcium deficiency 100%. My best guess is that I should have sped everything up (nutrient wise) because as you mentioned- this is a fast flowering strain 8-9 weeks. I think this was a Phosphorus deficiency and now it’s a touch of Calcium deficiency too :( I have taken ur advice regarding removing 4 mls of the Sensi Bloom part A to compensate for upping the CalMag to 4 mls for now. I had never thought about doing it that way but it makes perfect sense when trying to avoid too much Nitrogen. Thx for that, I will be using that growing forward. I know for sure that I’m not overwatering, the roots are not too wet (I check sometimes with my soil meter just too be sure) and my fan is not blowing directly on my ladies. So, I hope that by adding in the extra CalMag, keeping the Nitrogen under control and keeping the P&K where it needs to be- I can nurse these ladies through to harvest. So far, the buds are still building and I think that’s a good sign. Once again, thanks!
Philindicus
Philindicuscommented6 years ago
@Momgrowsthechronic, You should have shown a picture of the leaf so we can see what it is. So far in my grows it seems to really start showing deficiencies in the lowest fan leaves during week 6 so I started adding cal/mag in week 4. I think your right give her what she wants more cal/mag as long as your sure her roots aren't too wet. I have read some comments in other diaries about if the area of the leaves around the veins looks puffy or raised is a sign the roots are too wet.If that is the case the roots can't take up the calcium efficiently. I see signs of this in your photos. I would let her dry out and see if the leaves lose that hook on them. Also I was just on Cannas website their nutrient deficiency guide describes red verticle streaking in the main stems and red leaf stems as a nitrogen deficiency once again if the roots are wet this could be the cause. It's so hard to call I would hate to give bad advice. Maybe you should use your grow question and get a few more opinions.
Momgrowsthechronic
Momgrowsthechroniccommented6 years ago
@Philindicus, do u think it’s possible that this could be a CalMag deficiency? I’ve only been giving 2.5 mls per gallon as a preventative dose. My last grow was a CalMag hog and slurped up 4-5 mls per gallon in order to stay healthy and green. I’m thinking about upping this in the hopes that the yellowing stops. The only reason I didn’t do this sooner is because the rust spots started at the bottom of the plant when last time I had a full on Calcium deficiency it definitely affected the top first and worked its way down. With adding in the Big Bud + base nutes they should be receiving more than enough Phosphorus yet the yellowing continues. Thus my reason for thinking this could be a CalMag issue. Let me know what u think, much appreciated!
Philindicus
Philindicuscommentedweek 56 years ago
Does Pro Mix HP hold a decent ph range during your grows? Or do you add any lime to the mix?
Momgrowsthechronic
Momgrowsthechroniccommented6 years ago
@Philindicus, my feeding schedule is a tweaked version of Tang’s easy feed auto schedule. I love the ease, convenience and affordability and I’ve just made some adjustments along the way and added in the Big Bud/Overdrive to supplement the extra P & K. Depending on what strain I’m growing, I tweak the schedule to meet it’s needs. Thank you Tang for a great feeding schedule that seems to work for almost any strain grown in a medium similar to ProMix! Love it 😍
Philindicus
Philindicuscommented6 years ago
@Momgrowsthechronic,Great I would like to keep trying a few different growing mediums until I find one thats works best for me. I like your feeding schedule because your able to start nutes earlier. It almost reminds me of an old grower TaNgs feeding schedule. I definately need to try feeding a bit earlier to get more veg growth and .bud sights.
Momgrowsthechronic
Momgrowsthechroniccommented6 years ago
@Philindicus, I do not add any lime to the mix as the Promix is pretty much the perfect product right out of the bag. My PH remains steady throughout the grow and I only check the numbers with a soil meter if I suspect something is off. So far I have been very satisfied with the Promix HP and I can generally get 3-5 grows (using 5-7 gallon pots) out of a 60lb bale/cube. No bugs, no root rot if properly watered and easy to flush at the end of the grow- I love it! 😍
Philindicus
Philindicuscommentedweek 86 years ago
Nice comeback even C looks happier this week. They definately filled in more. Leaves are starting to straighten out. Did you break down and buy a TDS meter yet?
Philindicus
Philindicuscommented6 years ago
@Momgrowsthechronic, I thought I was going to keep it simple also but now I'm diving in head first. I am starting to lean more towards coco with Roots organic original but don't want to go full hydro. I may switch to coco when I'm finished with my nutes. I already have too many bottles of stuff. I wish I had more room I have some sour crack in my refrigerator I'd like to do. You still have a great grow. Look forward to your harvest.
Momgrowsthechronic
Momgrowsthechroniccommented6 years ago
@Philindicus, I’m looking into purchasing a 3in1 TDS, EC, PPM meter because I definitely feel that nutrients/nutrient concentration in my medium played a part in my plants’ slow demise. I am also thinking about going an entirely new route with coco and organic dry amendments instead of feeding synthetic, bottled nutes. But these ladies are what they are and the bud still looks decent and smells great. In fact, I’m most likely harvesting the oldest two plants this weekend to make room for starting my outdoor summer seedlings!
GreenHouseLab
GreenHouseLabcommentedweek 76 years ago
Hey, if I'm not mistaken you should be given the same amount of Sensei A than B to balance the N-P-K. Especially than you are using Bug bud which is heavy in PK. Your temps looks much better, if possible 75-77 deg F is ideal and your humidity level could be higher at this phase of Flower (50-60) then lower to 40 your last 2-3 weeks your buds will crystalize. All in all these buds look denser than your last. Looks good!
Momgrowsthechronic
Momgrowsthechroniccommented6 years ago
@GreenHouseLab, I’m removing 4 mls of part A because I’m adding 4 mls of CalMag into the mix. I was concerned that my plants were getting too much Nitrogen so a fellow grower suggested lowering the part A to compensate for the Nitrogen in the CalMag. These buds are definitely denser than my last grow so that’s an improvement overall. Thx for checkin in!
SHAMMYDOG
SHAMMYDOGcommentedweek 46 years ago
Hey Mom, Are you growing in coco? If so, I would water every day until good run off. You really can't over water in coco. Also what is your ppm. I water twice a day when they start to flower. Looking real nice.
Momgrowsthechronic
Momgrowsthechroniccommented6 years ago
@SHAMMYDOG, I am growing in ProMix HP (high porosity) which seems to be similar to coco in many ways. I wait until my pots are almost completely dry before watering again which is every second day. I have never checked my ppm (although I probably should) as I’m trying to keep my grow as simple as possible and my plants seem to be healthy and green. Thx for checking out my grow and the advice is always appreciated! 👍
Budofpray
Budofpraycommentedweek 86 years ago
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Denzul
Denzulcommentedweek 76 years ago
Oh man have those buds packed on some size since I last checked in small your ladies looking happy and healthy. Beautiful. Keep it up.
Philindicus
Philindicuscommentedweek 76 years ago
Wow that's crazy,Your plants definately aren't starving. Got some nice budding going on. Still the nicest sour crack plants I've seen on this site. Flushing them was a smart move. Once they have dried out a bit. I would stop feeding plant C completely just give it ph correct water hopefully she will pull through she may have needed a larger flush. D looks like shes is a bit stressed also not as bad as C give her ph correct water until her leaves straighten out. I would skip feeding A &B then alternate water-nutes-water-nutes. I know you want to keep things simple but you need to break down and get a TDS meter (This will make you an official mad scientist) it doesn't need to be an expensive one so you know not only whats going in but whats coming out. Your current nute feeding amounts are probably around 700 ppm. Your week 5 nute feed amounts were even higher just a guess maybe 900+ ppm. What may be happening is using 5 gallon pots for smaller plants their root system is small and isn't using all of the nitrogen. It stayed there sitting in the pot and it was just building up all this time. If you grow any more small varieties try a 3 gallon sack. She may have been a little bit more sensitive than the rest of the plants who knows. It's hard to tell in the photos with the way your lights are set up if the plants are directly centered under the middle of the larger leds but it may be slightly too intense for them. The hottest most intense area is dead center under the lights. I would try raising the lights up a few inches or push plant C off center or move her toward the back and put plant D in the front.
magicUmbrella
magicUmbrellacommentedweek 76 years ago
Good job!
DustyDuke
DustyDukecommentedweek 56 years ago
Looking strong and healthy keep it up 🤙
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