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Week 2. Vegetation
13d ago
12 cm
20 hrs
24 °C
7.2
No Smell
36 %
19 °C
5 L
0 L
55 cm
Nitrous This grow didn’t start from seed—I received the plants as small seedlings, but I wasn’t given any specific details about their age or the type of substrate they were in. At this early stage, I was running a 60W blurple light, which seemed fine for seedlings but was clearly not enough for long-term veg. I also didn’t have a humidifier yet. --Environmental Conditions: -Day Temperature: 22–25°C -Night Temperature: 18–20°C -Light Schedule: 20/4 (though I’m unsure if this was their original cycle before I got them) --Watering: Initially, I used regular tap water with no pH adjustments. First few waterings were not dechlorinated. Later switched to letting water sit for 24h to dechlorinate before use. Waterings were done lightly and only when needed. Tap water EC: ~0.5–0.6 Tap pH: ~7.1–7.2 (non-dechlorinated), ~8.0 (after dechlorination) No pH down was used at this point. No nutrients were added, and runoff was not tested during this time. --Observations: Plants looked healthy and were growing steadily. One plant was significantly shorter than the others (approx. 8cm vs. 12cm for the tallest), but still appeared healthy and vibrant. No visible signs of deficiencies, toxicity, or stress. This was the calm before the storm—everything looked promising at this stage.
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Week 3. Vegetation
13d ago
13 cm
20 hrs
24 °C
6.2
No Smell
350 PPM
34 %
18 °C
19 °C
5 L
0 L
55 cm
Nutrients 4
Calmag - BioBizz
Calmag 0.5 mll
Bio-pH- - BioBizz
Bio-pH- 0.4 mll
Terra Grow - PLAGRON.
Terra Grow 0.5 mll
Nitrous The Big Changes (and Some First Mistakes) This week marked a turning point in the grow — both in upgrades and in lessons learned. Upgrades: I swapped out the old 60W blurple light for a Spider Farmer SF2000 EVO. I started at 50% intensity and gradually ramped it up to 100% over the course of the week to avoid shocking the plants. The improvement in spectrum and canopy coverage was instantly noticeable. Watering & Feeding: I was watering every ~3 days, around 400ml per plant with pH’d water at 6.1–6.3 using Bio-Down. This is also when I started feeding — and in hindsight, it was too early, especially considering I wasn’t 100% sure what kind of soil they were in. I added: 0.5 ml/L Plagron Terra Grow 0.5 ml/L Biobizz CalMag (this was a mistake — my tap water already contains sufficient Ca/Mg) 0.25 ml/L Plagron Power Roots Bio-Down to reach proper pH Unfortunately, I wasn’t watering to runoff, and had no EC or pH data from the soil. That, combined with the unknown substrate, likely led to a salt buildup that caused issues shortly after. LST: This week, I also performed LST on all three plants for the first time after seeing a tutorial online. I waited until each plant had a developed 3rd node and a visible 4th before starting. The training went smoothly overall — all plants reoriented themselves well — but in hindsight, I probably shouldn’t have trained Savona, since she was already starting to show signs of early droop. It may have added a bit more stress on top of what was brewing beneath the surface. Observations: Diana (left) was taller and more stretchy, with slightly smaller leaves. Savona (middle) was doing well early in the week but began to look slightly droopy toward the end. Géraldine (right) looked compact, bushy, and strong — classic short and stout phenotype. Flush Attempt (End of Week 3): Realizing things weren’t right, I did my first flush to remove excess salts. I used non-pH-adjusted tap water (~pH 7.2) thinking the high pH would help rebalance the acidic soil. These were the readings: Before Flush: Diana: pH 5.6, EC 4.4 (very high!) Savona: pH 5.4, EC 4.0 Géraldine: pH 5.8, EC 2.2 After Flush: Diana: pH 5.8, EC 1.2 Savona: pH 5.7, EC 1.5 (couldn’t get it higher) Géraldine: pH 6.1, EC 0.9 This was the moment I realized the substrate was likely fertilized from the start, and the feeding without runoff had built up far more salts than I expected.
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Week 4. Vegetation
13d ago
16.5 cm
20 hrs
24 °C
6.4
Weak
350 PPM
60 %
19 °C
19 °C
5 L
0 L
45 cm
Nutrients 2
Bio-pH- - BioBizz
Bio-pH- 0.4 mll
Power Roots - PLAGRON.
Power Roots 0.5 mll
Nitrous Dialed In, But Trouble Deepens This was the week where I felt like I finally had most things under control… but it’s also the week where things started to go seriously wrong. --------------------------- Dialing In Environment: VPD was carefully maintained: 24–25°C daytime 60–65% RH consistently Lighting: Started the week at 100% intensity (Spider Farmer SF2000 EVO, ~45cm canopy distance) Dialed back to 80% on April 20 after noticing worsening signs and realizing it may have been too strong for this stage Watering: Watered only when dry (every ~4 days) This week’s watering (April 20) was about 1.3L per plant, with 15–20% runoff No nutrients added — just pH-adjusted water + ½-dose of Power Roots to help root recovery Pot Size & Drainage: Diana & Géraldine: 4.7L Savona: 5.7L Drainage is excellent, but the root systems are clearly pushing the limits of the pots Roots visible from drainage holes look white and fluffy, which is a positive sign I think — but the limited space may be holding them back --- Symptoms & Decline: What started with Savona now seems to be affecting all three plants in different ways. Savona: Persistent, stiff droop Leaves are rigid but limp, not plump or hydrated-looking Clawing persists, despite the earlier flush Leaves are very dark, especially for this growth stage Diana: Now showing signs similar to Savona Developing brown-bordeaux spots on leaves A few small yellow/brown lesions elsewhere New growth is abnormally dark, possibly stressed New growth started tearing from pressing into lower leaves — now visibly deformed Géraldine: Still the healthiest overall Slight droop present, but less severe Compact growth with tight internodal spacing May be beginning to show early signs of similar issues ---------------------------- Other Notes: Leaves touching the soil raise concern about fungus or mold Incident: my fan fell onto Savona this week — only one leaf was torn (cleanly), but it didn’t help her condition ------------------------------ Latest Watering Stats – April 20 (Clean water + ½ Power Roots — no nutrients) Géraldine EC 0.6 → 0.8 | pH 6.3 → 6.4 Savona EC 0.6 → 0.9 | pH 6.3 → 6.4 Diana EC 0.6 → 1.1 | pH 6.3 → 6.4 Runoff numbers look acceptable, but the physical stress symptoms are ongoing. The clawing, dark foliage, and structural droop haven’t resolved, despite cleaner watering and good environmental control.
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Nitrousstarted grow question 10d ago
Hey growers, Would it be alright to use this to tie down branches for LST? Or does it risk cutting the plant as it grows? It doesn't feel sharp, but I prefer to be safe then sorry
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Ninjabudsanswered grow question 10d ago
When it comes to tying down plants, you want something that's gentle and won't damage the stems. Soft, flexible materials like garden twine, strips of cloth, or even old nylon stockings work well. You can also find special plant ties at garden centers that are designed not to harm the plant. great question most people will probably say to use something made for tying plants down or to use some type of twin I personally say that is fine as long as you don’t wrap it super tight around the plant. Just keep in mind the plant will grow so leave it some room to get bigger Also when you are tying down plant also keep in mind when you are tying down branch’s make sure to let them grow some vertical growth atleast a couple nodes b4 flipping to flower it really can’t stunt how much a plant will grow in the strech when you have the branch’s all tied down and weak you gotta make sure they recover and have fast growth and make sure it’s growing leaves in a normal pattern if it’s making small leaves still then you want to hold off flipping to flower you will get a lot more bud weight by doing this probably 2x as many bud sites Also remember when you are bending branches to tie them down becarfull not to snap them Also b4 you tie a branch down its always good to work it out a couple times b4 tiring it down for good what I mean is for a week every other day bend the branch’s down and then leave them and let them grow back up and if you do it every other day it will stiffen up the branch’s a little b4 tieing them down Al’so any branch about as think as a pencil or more you can squeeze it a little and almost like message it and kinda bend the branch’s back and forth and make them all jelly like what you want to hear/ feel is small little snaps inside of the branch this is the inner part of the branch breaking you want this to happen it will grow back way stronger and branch’s that have had this done a lot to will grow way way bigger buds if you ever see those pics where ppl have thick stems on a small plant and the steams almost look twisted that’s what they did slowly twisted them to make them has hard as a tree branch Good luck you’re doing great. The stuff you have will work I use all kinds of stuff laying around the house when I’m broke and can’t afford this or that
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Week 5. Vegetation
9d ago
22 cm
20 hrs
25 °C
6.4
Weak
350 PPM
60 %
19 °C
22 °C
5 L
0 L
45 cm
Nutrients 3
Bio-pH- - BioBizz
Bio-pH- 0.106 mll
Terra Grow - PLAGRON.
Terra Grow 0.5 mll
Power Roots - PLAGRON.
Power Roots 0.5 mll
Nitrous Recovery Continues & First Gentle Feed After the big flush back in Week 3 (which revealed serious salt buildup), I followed up in Week 4 with a lighter flush, this time with added Power Roots to support recovery. That flush really helped, and by the start of Week 5, Savona and Géraldine were finally starting to perk up. It was genuinely rewarding to see signs of life coming back after all the stress. Géraldine even showed a little yellowing on her lower leaves, but with improved posture and brighter overall growth, it felt like a small victory. Progress! --- April 24 – First Normal Watering with Gentle Feed This week’s watering was the first normal feeding after the recovery period — just a mild nutrient mix with around 15% runoff to ease them back into a balanced rhythm. Feed Mix: Plagron Terra Grow – 0.5 ml/L Plagron Power Roots – 0.5 ml/L Bio-Down to pH ~6.3–6.4 No Cal-Mag this time! (Seriously… heavy tap water + Cal-Mag? What was I thinking? 😅) --- Watering Stats: Géraldine In: 6.4 pH / 0.7 EC Out: 6.5 pH / 0.8 EC Savona In: 6.4 pH / 0.7 EC Out: 6.4 pH / 1.0 EC Diana In: 6.4 pH / 0.7 EC Out: 6.5 pH / 1.1 EC --- I'm feeling cautiously optimistic now. They’re not out of the woods yet, but this week definitely felt like a step in the right direction. If you spot anything strange in the stats or photos, please don’t hesitate to chime in — I truly appreciate the help and support from all of you!
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Nitrousstarted grow question 8d ago
Hey growers, I feel totally stuck. If you look at the pictures in the diary, you can see they are growing extremely slow, they stay very small, internodal space I so small leaves are fighting with each other for space. What can still be done at this point?
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Ninjabudsanswered grow question 8d ago
Also a good trick when you have a problem with over watering is b4 you transfer them to new pots you can drill a bunch of holes in the larger pots on the side so it dries out faster also you can mix extra perlite or clay pebbles into the soil to help dry out faster Also if you put an inch or 2 of rocks in the bottom of the new pots they will drain a lot better Last thing if you grab some great white mycorrhiza sprinkle it on the root ball when you transfer and it will give your plant a lot of resistance to stress
Nitrous
Nitrousstarted grow question 4d ago
Hi growers, new episode in the newbie adventure. Leaves on all of my plants have started to give that kind of spots (real color looks more orange than picture, it really looks like rust.) (pH'ed hard tap water, should have enough Calcium and Magnesium normally)
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Organomananswered grow question 4d ago
Phosphorous deficiency caused by needless flushing multiple times..........nutrientt salts takes weeks to build up and is impossible to get a salt build up in 2-3 week old seedlings with "normal" fertilizing, even in pre amended soils. Tap water will never have enough cal/mag on its own.
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00110001001001111Oanswered grow question 4d ago
Hard water will not have enough Ca nd Mg on its own. This is not a safe assumption. I have 300ppm hard water. I still need 100+ ppm of Ca and 75ish ppm of Mg in my formula to avoid symptoms of deficiency. I've tracked elemental ppm since i started growing 6+ years ago. I've used hard water and i've used softened water in that time. You really need to include both Ca and Mg in your feed if the soil does not provide enough. HArd water will only account for a few ppm as it is not all calcium and not all of the calcium is plant-available. Devil's advocate -- do you allow the substrate to dry at all between irrigations? This could also be from watering too frequently, as the damage is really tight on the veins. Otherwise, definitely looks like a Ca deficiency. Just dot your I's and cross your T's to make sure it's not being inhibited by something esle at too high of concentration or pH being off.. Ca quickly is locked out if too acidic. It'll be the first thing locked out with a low pH every time.. chemistry is consistent like that.
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Ninjabudsanswered grow question 4d ago
Your soil is still wet. It will take time to recover. You have to let the pot get really dry. When you look at the soil and it starts to look dry and the whole pot is extremely light when you pick it up. I assure you plants like drought way more than soaking wet soil Like my plants I watered yesterday 5 of them it has been 10days sense I watered them and the other 3 it had been 7days and my plants ae slightly larger than yours and I’m sure my roots are much more established You have root damage at this point. When you let the soil get really dry the plant starts to grow new roots After 2 or 3 water cycles of waiting till soil is dry as a bone and then water you will have the roots continue to grow Everytime you water to soon all the new roots get all wet and then brown and start to die off I understand it can be deceiving thinking it time to water b4 that cause you will see the plant perk up at times of the day but then it won’t do it at other times you cants watch the leaves to know when to water unless your plant is healthy A stunted plant acts way different Lowering light intensity for a week will help Plant will not start to look healthy till you water correctly several times in a row so just don’t even look at what the plant looks like for the next 10 to 14 days only look at how dry the dirt is and fell how heavy the pot is you want the pot so light that you think the plant will die off because there is absolutely no water in the dirt
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James
Jamescommentedweek 413d ago
Good luck and happy growing mate! 🌱
Nitrous
Nitrouscommented12d ago
Thanks alot @James! 🙏🤞
Ninjabuds
Ninjabudscommentedweek 410d ago
Hey there I seee you say the plant has a consistent droop it’s because the plant has been over watered it will take some time b4 you can get the leaves to perk up 100% of the time but you need to let the soil get dry dry. It’s ok if you don’t have to water the plant for 10 to 14 days when it’s that size or smaller when you get the soil completely dry all the way thru. If you wait to water for a wile you will see the plant start to look a little healthier and start to perk up in the afternoon then after a few days of it doing really well you will see the soil start to look dry. You will want to water but just wait till the next day or if you see the plant start to look less healthy than it did the few days b4 that at that time water the plant right b4 lights outs. Then again wait till the soil is really dry the plant will go thru the same cycle. After a couple water cycles of doing it correctly and letting the soil get really dry b4 watering at this point after a few good watering cycles the plant will start to have leaves perk up all the time…. When the plant goes into flower you don’t want let the soil get as dry but you will be able to see by the plants cause durring flower most plants will perk leaves all the time so when the plant starts to look not perky then it wants water. Durring 1st 3 or 4 weeks of flower the plants will want a ton of water then the 2nd half of flower it will slow done you will notice the soil staying wet longer
Nitrous
Nitrouscommented10d ago
@Ninjabuds, Thanks alot for that great analysis! I had made some research about droop, and I found out that overwatering droop led to some plumpy leaves alongside a "straighter" petiole.. Here, the entire leave as well as the leave petiole is arced and stiff. So stiff actually that one of the leaves teared itself by pushing down on the leaf below. Of course, I might be wrong, I don't have any real experience. Now they have all been dry (top soil) for two days. The two plants that already did better are still doing alright, but then Diana (left) stays critical, dark-green, with spots,... Should I wait one more day to water then you think?
yan402
yan402commentedweek 213d ago
Are these the same plants as in your grow question at an earlier stage or are they a completely different grow?
Nitrous
Nitrouscommented13d ago
@yan402, thank YOU for helping! ❤️
yan402
yan402commented13d ago
@Nitrous, Cool thanks for clarifying 🙏♥️
Nitrous
Nitrouscommented13d ago
@yan402, those are the ones, I'm building it up from as far as I have notes and pictures. :)
yan402
yan402commentedweek 313d ago
Hey growmie, thanks for the extra detail,you’ve already made a lot of good moves. That stiff droop still points to root stress, likely from early salt buildup and pH swings. CalMag probably pushed it a bit too far, especially since your tap already has plenty in it. Flush helped, but it likely shocked them too. That said, you’re catching it early and already fixing things: Switched the light, Dialed in your feeding, Using pH’d water now, all solid steps!!! From here it’s just about keeping things steady: Light feed with runoff every time, skip CalMag unless you see signs ,avoid big wet/dry swings And great call on starting a diary it makes helping much easier. 🤞🍀♥️ *If you think I got it wrong just do your thing lol
Nitrous
Nitrouscommented13d ago
@yan402, Hey, thanks alot for the tips ! I'll try my best to keep things stable. So you think I shouln't let her dry out, right ? I would also love to get some insight on the type of soil I'm using.. Is it a mix of potting soil, peat and perlite ? I even thought it could be coco for a moment, but then, I would have to water with way lower pH. This is one of the last things I'm still unsure about. I'll create the week 4 in a little bit, that's the moment where it really starts to be catastrophic for all of them. I'm incredibly happy to see how helpful this growing community is. Thanks again!
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yan402commentedweek 213d ago
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