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Week 1. Vegetation
7y ago
29 °C
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6.5
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80 %
Air Humidity
21 °C
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4 °C
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18.93 liters
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Vega0284 Hey Guys! Super excited this week! I've really been wanting to try growing outdoors, so I built a cheap hoop house! Got most of this stuff for the frame from Lowes under 300$. All the soil products I got from GrowGreenMI. Some really cool people out there. One thing I'm super worried about is drainage. Right now those holes are about 4 feet deep and they've got about 4 inches of water in them already. What's been cautioned is that, eventually, about 2 months in these plants roots will grow and reach the bottom and cause root rot to form. One of the biggest things I was trying to be wary of was causing root rot. This was also the biggest precautionary measure I took when mixing the soil. Adding the extra perlite, coco, and clay pebbles. Best advice right now is to build the soil up on the holes another 16 to 18 inches and possible stick a PVC pipe down to the lowest drainage point of the hole to allow some of that natural occurring water to evaporate. Any advice anyone has on it is welcomed! Making a compost tea for the soil outdoors, will probably put 2 cups in each RDWC bucket as well and let that do it's magic for a day or so before nutrient change. Raised the bed about 14 inches as well! All the seeds sank! Off to a good start! Lol
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Vega0284started grow question 7y ago
If you check in the video above with the soil I have a lot of natural water occurring in the holes. What's the best way to prevent root rot from occurring given the circumstances?
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anthbiaforeanswered grow question 7y ago
ive grown a ton of tomatoes and peppers in containers and from my experience that won't really happen man. the plants are gonna be hella happy in that thing no matter what there is area for the roots to dig into and grow in the ground, it doesnt mean that those roots need to necessarily have a job, and some roots may rot, but it doesn't mean that that root was useful anyway. it may have grown for a specific part of the plant and then rotted and the plant then signals the rest of the plant to uptake from other roots. the amount of roots in the ground doesn't mean much because a plant can only grow so fast and so optimally, beyond that it will fix every problem given the right environment. the environment your giving it is like plant-steroids habitat. the plant will not have needed the potentially rotted root if it ''rots'' in this great environment you are giving it. it would simply just discard it while fungus bacteria trichodermia and other bioturbulent insects would clear the way for more roots to grow anyway. I saw your vid of watering the soil I think your 300 dollar tent is awesome and I wish when I built mine I could have beena bit more simpler, Now im downsizing and im going to use that little pvc tube thing to encase my little grow area because a squared wooden roof was just a stupid idea. yours looks so simple dang. wish I didn't put so much thought into mine.
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Week 2. Vegetation
7y ago
2.54 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
27 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
80 %
Air Humidity
21 °C
Solution Temp
22 °C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
91.44 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Liquid Seaweed - Blue Planet Nutrients
Liquid Seaweed
0.163 mll
Vega0284 Pretty routine week with the seedlings. Unfortunately the ILGM Super Lemon Haze didn't root. Tap root popped and got in the ground, but didn't grow an inch for 4 days. Root stayed the same size and stem and leaves never sprouted up. I'm pretty sure I screwed up and had the fan blowing directly on this one, probably got too cold. So I replaced her with a GSC that's germinating now. Autoflowers popped so that made me happy! I was worried that there might be too much in the soil to let them do their thing. I've always heard autoflowers need about 1.2 recommended dosage for nutes and didn't think about it when putting my soil together. Anyway hope next week we'll have first true leaves! Have just been watering these girls with RO Water to 6.5 and Liquid Seaweed. Sorry for the blurple pics, it's night here and didn't even think about putting white light's in this tent yet. Figured soon enough they'll be out in the sunshine anyway!
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Week 3. Vegetation
7y ago
7.62 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
27 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
80 %
Air Humidity
21 °C
Solution Temp
22 °C
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18.93 liters
Pot Size
91.44 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 6
TriPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Bloom
0.66 mll
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow
2.642 mll
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro
1.981 mll
Vega0284 Another week of Veg, girls are still indoors. Today is the last day of sub 40 over night. With the greenhouse, night time temps should be able to stay above 50. Hopefully thats not too harsh. The 3 Photos are doing well, however the GSE seems to be taking her time getting her first leaves. Right now the coytl's are barely through the soil. Hopefully in the next few days that'll pick up dramatically. I will be transfering the photo's tomorrow with the exception of the GSE, I'll wait for her first true leaves and spend a week trying to harden her before putting her in the ground. The companion plants for this grow are doing well, Lavender and dill have sprouted, along with the alfalfa in the beds are growing well. Green beans are taking a minute to produce, but the chamomile is coming quicker than i anticipated. I noticed a few soil nats, so i picked up some venus fly traps and neem oil.
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Week 4. Vegetation
7y ago
7.62 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
27 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
80 %
Air Humidity
21 °C
Solution Temp
22 °C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
91.44 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 6
TriPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Bloom
0.66 mll
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow
2.642 mll
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro
1.981 mll
Vega0284 Finally got these girls outside! The weather here has been so inconsistent it was long over due. They all seem to be very healthy, and i've started LST on the 2 Autos. Unfortunately my dog ate the GSE seedling when I was transplanting, so starting that one over again, she'll be about 3 weeks behind the others. I've maintained watering them with GH feed schedule, staying in vegetative growth week. My plan is to feed them weekly and water with PH"d RO'd water with some seaweed and molasses in between. Every other week I'll make a compost tea and throw that in the cycle. Going to give them a few more days to get rooted and will probably top the photo's. So far so good, other than the dog eating one haha.
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Vega0284started grow question 7y ago
Should I top plants outdoors? I'd imagine the sun would be powerful enough to penetrate an uneven canopy, however I don't have unlimited growspace, Depending on how tall these girls get they could very easily grow through the literal ceiling. Any thoughts?
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Watersanswered grow question 7y ago
I’m not sure how high your ceiling is and the average height of each of your strains but If you think that height will be an issue then I’d say top them. From what I’ve seen there may not be much difference in yield cause the sun can penetrate deeply, but if you don’t mind losing a few days growth, then save yourself a hassle down the track and just top them once.
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Week 5. Vegetation
6y ago
40.64 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
16 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
80 %
Air Humidity
21 °C
Solution Temp
6 °C
Night Air Temp
0.38 liters
Watering Volume
Nutrients 7
TriPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Bloom
0.66 mll
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow
2.642 mll
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro
1.981 mll
Vega0284 Well kind of a shitty week. The weather has been garbage, it snowed twice... yeah snowed. There is not a whole lot of growth to report on due to the weather. The Grand Daddy Purple has a lot of space between it's nodes this week, to what I can only attribute to the poor lighting with it being over casted, cold and snowing all week. The other 2 photo's are doing just as well as you can see, again not a whole lot of growth after the topping, but I'm assuming the environment for them has not been as favorable as needed, so they are just focusing all their energy on not dying. Which I'm totally cool with lol. The mephisto's are growing well, I'm still training them around the pot trying to get more tops out of them. The ChemDawg is doing significantly better than the Sweet N Sour, I haven't had to do hardly any watering this week as the soil is still damp, temps are cold and humidity is high. I did water and feed them today though as we are expecting temps and weather to reach mid 70 s this week. The Girl Scout Cookies is still in her seedling phase, not sure why this strain is giving me so much trouble, but she's not dead, and first true leaves are just starting to poke out, I've got her in the indoor tent with my Auto grow soaking up some light and hoping that gets her hardy enough to bring her outdoors.
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Ssomeguy
Ssomeguy commented7y ago
They look really good...but strange thing... they look really familiar, and similar... https://growdiaries.s3-accelerate.amazonaws.com/static/post/photo/19262/1003748_continuation-of-first-growcustomsativa-dominant-hybrids.jpg I mean, apart from those 2 rejects on the left. Bizarrely, my dog ran over one of my eventually best plants (pink red pistil dense landrace thing), it seemed to help.
Vega0284
Vega0284 commented7y ago
@@Ssomeguy, That's awesome! Yeah the two I have in fabric are autos, the rest are dug in a hole thats about 5 feet down and 4 feet wide. Definitely excited to see how these girls develop now that they are in sunshine!
Ssomeguy
Ssomeguy commented7y ago
@Vega0284, Yeah my plants struggle without lots of sunlight and water. Those plants I linked there, mostly the same or slight variation, no idea what it is, and it's just about winter now (I really hope they can manage for a while). I've just kept them outside, in cold, low light, storms and shit, hoping they'd adapt a bit. Figured I'd fim most of them while they look good, too.
Vega0284
Vega0284 commented7y ago
@@Ssomeguy, Yeah that's smart, I topped 2 of the 6 I have growing just to see what would happen in the long run. I'm honestly considering getting some mylar and wrapping it around the lower part of my green house to help with light when it can. But living out here the weather seems really uncertain. I don't have too many issues with water, as they are pretty close to my house, and the water table here is super high.
Ssomeguy
Ssomeguy commented7y ago
@Vega0284, Dude, also, don't let people tell you that you should do something specific to the plants. Basically you should always consider your plants' stress levels, like while it is in very good shape, a little bit of stress won't hurt, especially if you have good reasons for doing it (very contextual). Like often people would say prune lower branches since they're unproductive or whatever, topping as a rule, etc. That's stupid, here's why (other than fimming just being better with less stress): https://growdiaries.s3-accelerate.amazonaws.com/static/post/photo/19262/1003876_continuation-of-first-growcustomsativa-dominant-hybrids.jpg So there's my largest (maybe 2nd largest) plant pictured, It's got 60cm space (square), it's about 4m tall. Now, if you look at the bottom there, it's got at least 9 1-2m branches with large colas. Respond to what your plants are saying. Use that experience in a preventative sense if you can. Your plants look great currently though. I'm sure you'll do well. Weather has been really unpredictable here too, and quite varied, with a majority of the daily predictions being incorrect recently (which has been driving me fucking insane). Check this shit: https://growdiaries.s3-accelerate.amazonaws.com/static/post/photo/19262/998116_continuation-of-first-growcustomsativa-dominant-hybrids.jpg https://growdiaries.s3-accelerate.amazonaws.com/static/post/photo/19262/998117_continuation-of-first-growcustomsativa-dominant-hybrids.jpg https://growdiaries.s3-accelerate.amazonaws.com/static/post/photo/19262/998109_continuation-of-first-growcustomsativa-dominant-hybrids.jpg
Ssomeguy
Ssomeguy commented7y ago
@Vega0284, You don't need mylar, just like, white plastic. Whatever is cheaper/more convenient. I've used walls painted white and white wrapping around pots (very important for pots in high heat conditions because of root burn) with pretty good results. Especially in high heat conditions , results in more sort of averaged heat/light, black pots are bad in high heat, low light conditions, but, with very high heat and light, the reflective stuff also burns...so like at peak times it can get bad. It's a bit of a tradeoff, but in general, worth having white/reflective surfaces if you're struggling for light a bit (regardless of heat).
Vega0284
Vega0284 commented7y ago
@@Ssomeguy, That's awesome man, yeah you're right, alot of the times I see people and get advice to do XYZ EVERYTIME, most of the time, less is more. Just follow the feedchart, your gut and go with problems as they arise. Using white paint on the pots is a great idea, it shouldn't get too hot where I live outdoors, average it says is 88 for the summer, which will help. But I am considering painting my indoor DWC buckets white to help manage the temp of the nutrient solution. And man your plants look great! That first one, the size of that main cola is ridiculous! Looks like something out of a Dr. Seuss illustration hahah!
Ssomeguy
Ssomeguy commented7y ago
@Vega0284, Not kidding, in good conditions (too cold/humid now) that thing would go for another month. Double the size (mass) almost. But I really wasn't expecting them to grow as tall and for as long as they did, I was expecting 5-6 months, 2m plants (planted just after it was legalized here, around start october). My best plants are closer to 9 months for proper maturity (ideally, but not in these conditions). Instead, I got fimmed plants that were 2m... https://growdiaries.s3-accelerate.amazonaws.com/static/post/photo/19262/998171_continuation-of-first-growcustomsativa-dominant-hybrids.jpg
Ssomeguy
Ssomeguy commented7y ago
@Vega0284, My plants have experienced probably around 50c peak temps and huge daily variation between min/max, they do really well with lots of heat and rain actually (looks bad though, but none of the pests can survive and they always look better after that, like growth spurts) as long as they get lots of water, heat and sunlight. Very hot, very wet, very bright is like ideal for my plants. Cooler and dry (in the sense of no rain), but humid air, combined with the sudden change has really messed up some of my plants though. 88f sounds almost ideal to me (for strong sativas), but the minimums...
Vega0284
Vega0284 commented7y ago
@@Ssomeguy, Yeah that sounds like a struggle. I'm constantly monitoring the temps in my green house, I luckily built in two doors that would help ventilate. So if it hits above 85, I can just open the doors and temps stay in mid to low 70s. Right now its consistent with 73 degrees F and 70% humidity. Not sure how the humidity is going to change as the summer ends and these girls start flowering. Worst comes to worst I can rig up a dehumidifier out there.
Ssomeguy
Ssomeguy commented7y ago
@Vega0284, White plastic should be cheaper than paint (I think, not sure), but yeah, just wrap that around your pots. And maybe cover the ground or "walls", whatever that may be, around them. You can then remove it later, if you do need a bit more heat retention.
Ssomeguy
Ssomeguy commented7y ago
@Vega0284, If you got nice consistent water, keep temps around 15-30c and give them as much sunlight as possible, you'll do really well. I mean sure, nutrient levels and such change (like more carbon and phosphor as flowering starts), but the importance of water, light and temperature overrides most of that. In veg, very high humidity, lots of rain and heat is great (though it can promote some pests like gnats), but low temps (<15c) and high humidity is a fuckup, throughout, especially in late flower. With the paradoxical thing of mildew being very prone to propagation when the plants are poorly watered. I dunno hey, figure that out. Btw, just before (and through) flowering, I would suggest something like potassium carbonate/potassium bicarbonate if you want to prevent mold/mildew issues, you can get it pretty easily I think or use something like ash/char tea/water as a foliar spray. It's actually useful as a foliar spray in and of itself, other than being antifungal. Just account for that and lower your other potassium and carbon feeds.
Ssomeguy
Ssomeguy commented7y ago
@Vega0284, About the humidity, sure, it's not the same thing, but I've used some cheap ass sinks like diatomaceous earth in egg cartons, some fans and a heater, some very cheap dehumidifer stuff (like $1.5 for 500grams) in my drying room and I've kept the humidity just around 60% at 21c throughout. Again, not the same thing, but maybe worth considering depending on your conditions (since you're concerned about the growing humidity, but I don't think that's a concern until mid-late flowering, at least not from what I've experienced). I'm also gonna be doing sun/air drying for a few hours with new harvests (while the plant is fresh and can still produce stuff for a little while), basically turning a week drying time into 1-2 days drying time with no loss and possibly (probably, according to me) even gain. Though it depends on the weather.
Vega0284
Vega0284 commented7y ago
@@Ssomeguy, That's a great idea! Yeah I know it's not a problem currently, but unfortunately my overly anxious mind tends to torture itself with its favorite game.., "what's the worst that could happen". Lol
Ssomeguy
Ssomeguy commented7y ago
@Vega0284, Oh I get that a lot...I mean, did you see how my plants have been bending lately?
Vega0284
Vega0284 commented7y ago
@@Ssomeguy, Yeah I saw them wrapped over that close line
Ssomeguy
Ssomeguy commented7y ago
@Vega0284, Yeah, when the branches are almost vertical (in the wrong direction) you gotta do something.
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