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Ultraviolet Off and away.@1400ppm. The increased CO2 allows plants to thrive at higher temperatures, which in turn necessitates higher humidity to maintain the ideal VPD for healthy growth and transpiration. 80F -5F = 75F LST with 70% RH = 0.72 kPa. Higher temperatures and humidity promote rapid growth, nutrient uptake, and photosynthesis while maintaining a lower stress level. Temperature influences the rate of enzymatic reactions involved in aerobic respiration. Enzymes, such as those involved in glycolysis, the Krebs cycle, and the electron transport chain, work most efficiently at an optimal temperature range. In low temperatures, enzymatic activity will slow down, thus reducing the rate of aerobic respiration. In high temperatures, enzymes can become denatured, thus impairing their function and stopping the process of aerobic respiration. Glucose is the primary fuel for aerobic respiration. The rate of aerobic respiration increases with the availability of glucose, as it is the starting point for glycolysis. If glucose levels are low, cells may rely on alternative energy sources such as fatty acids or amino acids , but these processes may yield less ATP or be less efficient. To determine this effect, carbon dioxide volume was measured (as carbon dioxide is an output of aerobic respiration) 18/6 with the 6 being IR instead of darkness, keeping temps overnight a neat 77F-80F. Think of my tent as a lung. What goes in must come out. When the rate of air going out exceeds the amount of air coming in, it creates a negative pressure. Tent concaves (bends in). If set up correctly, your RH will begin to drop slowly to the desired level you set, and the extraction turns off when it reaches 50% RH. The plant, as it performs cellular respiration, will always be releasing more water into the air, so the RH% of the tent overnight will always increase, so long as oxidative phosphorylation is occurring. As soon as the RH% creeps back up to 55%, the extraction turns back on, over and over, this creates a strong pressure differential which will work wonders on your grow. replicating high and low pressure fronts in nature, critical for oxygen diffusion, but more importantly, full control of your RH%. Moisture will not transfer from a saturated atmosphere to another if that air is already at or above its saturation point, meaning the air can't hold any more water vapor. Once I understood that water is produced as a by product during cellular respiration, specifically at the very end of the electron transport chain (ETC) where electrons are finally transferred to molecular oxygen., higher the RH of the air the more resistance there is for more moisture to be added to that environment, and effects the ease with which it does so. But none of that water comes from the pot; it's pulled from the air. If you run high daytime RH, your medium/pot is 100% reliant on transpirational root pull to move water. ZERO evaporation happens across the atmosphere if the tent air has high RH%, the medium cannot release its water through evaporation. Once a canopy develops, light no longer slowly wicks and evaporates from the topsoil. The Soil-Plant-Atmosphere Continuum (SPAC) describes the continuous pathway and process of water movement, driven by a gradient in water potential, from the soil, through the plant's roots, stem, and leaves, and finally evaporating into the atmosphere through transpiration. There is evaporation, there is transpiration, then there is evapotranspiration; Evapotranspiration (ET) is the combined total of two processes: evaporation (water lost directly from soil and surface water into the atmosphere) and transpiration (water released from plants to the atmosphere through their leaves). Evapotranspiration represents the total amount of water that moves from the medium into the air. There is no such thing as a medium with too much water, only a medium that retains too much for too long. The water must always flow efficiently from one atmosphere(Medium) to another(Air) in a timely manner. Moisture is a critical factor for bacterial growth and decay. Dictating how long it's allowed to sit in any one location for any given period is a key preferred control. To ensure a net reduction in a bacterial population, the rate of removal (ET) must exceed the rate of bacterial growth (decay rate), which is often modeled as a growth rate for the specific bacterium under the given conditions. By optimizing daytime VPD, we also optimize conditions for bacterial growth to explode exponentially above 77°F.. If water is allowed to sit in a medium without an escape within a timeframe, nothing good will happen. IF High RH is maintained overnight as well as during the day, placing 100% of water movement at the behest of daytime transpiration, roots can only pull where they can reach, and if soil is compressed above a certain point, moisture will become trapped in a medium with no way of moving day or night. This will begin the countdown for decay to take hold. When water stagnates in a medium, it loses oxygen, creating anaerobic conditions that foster the growth of harmful microorganisms like bacteria and fungi, which can produce toxins and disease vectors. Thigmomorphogenesis, the process by which plants respond to mechanical stimuli like touch by altering their growth and development, resulting in significant morphological changes to improve survival against mechanical perturbations. This complex response involves sensing touch and initiating physiological and genetic responses, leading to changes in form and structure over days or weeks. The process is triggered by physical forces such as wind, rain, or touch. Plants adapt to these stimuli by changing their shape and structure, which may include slower growth, thickened stems, or altered leaf development. Plants possess sophisticated mechanisms to detect even subtle mechanical stimuli and initiate responses. A variety of molecules, including calcium ions, jasmonates, ethylene, and nitric oxide, are involved in signaling these mechanical inputs. Touch can induce the expression of genes that encode proteins for calcium sensing, cell wall modification, and defense mechanisms. A plant exposed to constant wind may become shorter and sturdier. A plant that is touched frequently might grow slower to conserve energy and develop thicker cell walls. These changes increase a plant's resilience and ability to survive in harsh environments.
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Ultraviolet
Ultravioletstarted grow question 12d ago
More aimed at experienced growers , what is your opinion on seed size. Everyone love big fat seeds and the bigger it is the more store of energy it generally has but does a tiny seed produce noticeably small yields comparitive to thick seed. What's your experience n observation?
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Organomananswered grow question 12d ago
I have kept records on seed size, color, shape and markings for over 30 years now and can confidently say, seed size has nothing to do with plant size, potency or final yields. In fact, some of the largest plants have come from tiny seeds and some of the shortest from big, fat, round seeds. There are absolutely no predictors in seed type as to final outcomes with the plant.
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Week 1. Vegetation
4d ago
7.62 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
29 °C
Day Air Temp
6.7
pH
350 PPM
TDS
60 %
Air Humidity
21 °C
Solution Temp
22 °C
Substrate Temp
27 °C
Night Air Temp
378.54 L
Pot Size
137.16 cm
Lamp Distance
900 PPM
CO₂ Level
Nutrients 5
RAW Grow - NPK Industries
RAW Grow
0.65 mll
Microbes Grow Stage - NPK Industries
Microbes Grow Stage
0.65 mll
RAW Cane Molasses - NPK Industries
RAW Cane Molasses
1.3 mll
Ultraviolet 16-18 DLI @ the minute. Vegetative @1400ppm 0.8–1.2 kPa 80–86°F (26.7–30°C) 65–75% Conventional/commodity grade: Plants grown for the general market, such as food, with standard agricultural practices. These products have the lowest level of regulation regarding cultivation, quality control, and testing for impurities. Organic: Certified organic products are grown without synthetic pesticides or fertilizers. However, a product can be organic while still having variations in active ingredients, and it is not subject to the same strict testing as pharmaceutical-grade products for all forms of contamination. Dietary supplement grade: This standard is more regulated than conventional or organic but still has fewer requirements than pharmaceutical grade. A dietary supplement manufacturer might use a "standardized extract," but this only ensures a consistent level of a specific marker compound, not the total quality or freedom from contaminants. Good Agricultural and Collection Practices (GACP): These are guidelines for how to grow and harvest medicinal plants to produce high-quality raw materials. GACP focuses on proper plant identification, hygiene, documentation, and the prevention of contamination from pesticides or heavy metals. Good Manufacturing Practices (GMP): For plant extracts used in supplements and medicines, GMP standards ensure quality control throughout the manufacturing process, from raw material handling to packaging. While GMP is a stringent standard, the highest level of this, often referenced as EU GMP, is required for pharmaceutical products. Pharmaceutical grade: This is the most stringent standard for plant-derived ingredients, such as those used in Plant-Made Pharmaceuticals (PMP). This standard requires compliance with both GACP (for cultivation) and the most advanced GMP (for manufacturing). Plants are grown in highly controlled, often confined, environments to prevent contamination and ensure consistent potency. CEC (Cation Exchange Capacity): This is a measure of a soil's ability to hold and exchange positively charged nutrients, like calcium, magnesium, and potassium. Soils with high CEC (more clay and organic matter) have more negative charges that attract and hold these essential nutrients, preventing them from leaching away. EC (Electrical Conductivity): This measures the amount of soluble salts in the soil. High EC levels indicate a high concentration of dissolved salts and can be a sign of potential salinity issues that can harm plants. The stored cations associated with a medium's cation exchange capacity (CEC) do not directly contribute to a real-time electrical conductivity (EC) reading. A real-time EC measurement reflects only the concentration of free, dissolved salt ions in the water solution within the medium. 98% of a plants nutrients comes directly from the water solution. 2% come directly from soil particles. CEC is a mediums storage capacity for cations. These stored cations do not contribute to a mediums EC directly. Electrical Conductivity (EC) does not measure salt ions adsorbed (stored) onto a Cation Exchange Capacity (CEC) site, as EC measures the conductivity of ions in solution within a soil or water sample, not those held on soil particles. A medium releases stored cations to water by ion exchange, where a new, more desirable ion from the water solution temporarily displaces the stored cation from the medium's surface, a process also seen in plants absorbing nutrients via mass flow. For example, in water softeners, sodium ions are released from resin beads to bond with the medium's surface, displacing calcium and magnesium ions which then enter the water. This same principle applies when plants take up nutrients from the soil solution: the cations are released from the soil particles into the water in response to a concentration equilibrium, and then moved to the root surface via mass flow. An example of ion exchange within the context of Cation Exchange Capacity (CEC) is a soil particle with a negative charge attracting and holding positively charged nutrient ions, like potassium (K+) or calcium (Ca2+), and then exchanging them for other positive ions present in the soil solution. For instance, a negatively charged clay particle in soil can hold a K+ ion and later release it to a plant's roots when a different cation, such as calcium (Ca2+), is abundant and replaces the potassium. This process of holding and swapping positively charged ions is fundamental to soil fertility, as it provides plants with essential nutrients. Negative charges on soil particles: Soil particles, particularly clay and organic matter, have negatively charged surfaces due to their chemical structure. Attraction of cations: These negative charges attract and hold positively charged ions, or cations, such as: Potassium (K+) Calcium (Ca2+) Magnesium (Mg2+) Sodium (Na+) Ammonium (NH4+) Plant roots excrete hydrogen ions (H+) through the action of proton pumps embedded in the root cell membranes, which use ATP (energy) to actively transport H+ ions from inside the root cell into the surrounding soil. This process lowers the pH of the soil, which helps to make certain mineral nutrients, such as iron, more available for uptake by the plant. Mechanism of H+ Excretion Proton Pumps: Root cells contain specialized proteins called proton pumps (H+-ATPases) in their cell membranes. Active Transport: These proton pumps use energy from ATP to actively move H+ ions from the cytoplasm of the root cell into the soil, against their concentration gradient. Role in pH Regulation: This active excretion of H+ is a major way plants regulate their internal cytoplasmic pH. Nutrient Availability: The resulting decrease in soil pH makes certain essential mineral nutrients, like iron, more soluble and available for the root cells to absorb. Ion Exchange: The H+ ions also displace positively charged mineral cations from the soil particles, making them available for uptake. Iron Uptake: In response to iron deficiency stress, plants enhance H+ excretion and reductant release to lower the pH and convert Fe3+ to the more available form Fe2+. The altered pH can influence the activity and composition of beneficial microbes in the soil. The H+ gradient created by the proton pumps can also be used for other vital cell functions, such as ATP synthesis and the transport of other solutes. The hydrogen ions (H+) excreted during photosynthesis come from the splitting of water molecules. This splitting, called photolysis, occurs in Photosystem II to replace the electrons used in the light-dependent reactions. The released hydrogen ions are then pumped into the thylakoid lumen, creating a proton gradient that drives ATP synthesis. Plants release hydrogen ions (H+) from their roots into the soil, a process that occurs in conjunction with nutrient uptake and photosynthesis. These H+ ions compete with mineral cations for the negatively charged sites on soil particles, a phenomenon known as cation exchange. By displacing beneficial mineral cations, the excreted H+ ions make these nutrients available for the plant to absorb, which can also lower the soil pH and indirectly affect its Cation Exchange Capacity (CEC) by altering the pool of exchangeable cations in the soil solution. Plants use proton (H+) exudation, driven by the H+-ATPase enzyme, to release H+ ions into the soil, creating a more acidic rhizosphere, which enhances nutrient availability and influences nutrient cycling processes. This acidification mobilizes insoluble nutrients like iron (Fe) by breaking them down, while also facilitating the activity of beneficial microbes involved in the nutrient cycle. Therefore, H+ exudation is a critical plant strategy for nutrient acquisition and management, allowing plants to improve their access to essential elements from the soil. A lack of water splitting during photosynthesis can affect iron uptake because the resulting energy imbalance disrupts the plant's ability to produce ATP and NADPH, which are crucial for overall photosynthetic energy conversion and can trigger a deficiency in iron homeostasis pathways. While photosynthesis uses hydrogen ions produced from water splitting for the Calvin cycle, not to create a hydrogen gas deficiency, the overall process is sensitive to nutrient availability, and iron is essential for chloroplast function. In photosynthesis, water is split to provide electrons to replace those lost in Photosystem II, which is triggered by light absorption. These electrons then travel along a transport chain to generate ATP (energy currency) and NADPH (reducing power). Carbon Fixation: The generated ATP and NADPH are then used to convert carbon dioxide into carbohydrates in the Calvin cycle. Impaired water splitting (via water in or out) breaks the chain reaction of photosynthesis. This leads to an imbalance in ATP and NADPH levels, which disrupts the Calvin cycle and overall energy production in the plant. Plants require a sufficient supply of essential mineral elements like iron for photosynthesis. Iron is vital for chlorophyll formation and plays a crucial role in electron transport within the chloroplasts. The complex relationship between nutrient status and photosynthesis is evident when iron deficiency can be reverted by depleting other micronutrients like manganese. This highlights how nutrient homeostasis influences photosynthetic function. A lack of adequate energy and reducing power from photosynthesis, which is directly linked to water splitting, can trigger complex adaptive responses in the plant's iron uptake and distribution systems.
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Organic_G
Organic_Gcommentedweek 11d ago
@Ultraviolet, nah Bro I talking about the CO2 PPM ;) why that high in early VEG, as i know 700-800 would be the Sweet Spot since Photosynthese rate ain‘t that high… maybe you have other reason for that or Knowledge ;) it still benefit microbila life in soil
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yan402
yan402commentedweek 07d ago
Good luck bro 🤞🍀♥️ And congrats for dotm 🏆🥂💨
Ultraviolet
Ultravioletcommented3d ago
@yan402, Thanks Yan, appreciated. Just looking forward to taking my time in veg. Puff puff pass!
Kirsten
Kirstencommentedweek 011d ago
Happy growing friend 🧡 enjoy your new grow 😁💚✌️
Ultraviolet
Ultravioletcommented11d ago
@Kirsten, Thank you very much! Let's see how beautiful this little runt becomes. Photoperiod this time!
Kirsten
Kirstencommented11d ago
@Ultraviolet, Ah yes! She will treat you well I'm sure 😁💚✌️
Organic_G
Organic_Gcommentedweek 11d ago
Whats up mate, happy grow😇 why you keep the ppm that high in the early veg
Ultraviolet
Ultravioletcommented1d ago
@Organic_G, Nutrient availability and its abundance has significant effect on plant development, hormonal balance and structure also. Just not something you can visually notice. In order to yield abundance she must be grown in abundance.
Organic_G
Organic_Gcommented1d ago
@Ultraviolet, nah Bro I talking about the CO2 PPM ;) why that high in early VEG, as i know 700-800 would be the Sweet Spot since Photosynthese rate ain‘t that high… maybe you have other reason for that or Knowledge ;) it still benefit microbila life in soil
Ultraviolet
Ultravioletcommented19h ago
@Organic_G, Sorry dude my bad. She will develop leaves with much more efficent apparatus to handle high co2 levels coupled with high UV @280nm also vastly increased stomatal density and shorter diffusion pathways. Leaves will be long thin and sharp but far better at dealing with high co2 and uv and the extremes that come with it. If I just let her develop at 400ppm she have the capacity later to deal with 1800ppm efficiently. As I'd like.
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