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Week 1. Vegetation
6y ago
2.54 cm
16 hrs
29 °C
7
No Smell
85 %
21 °C
19 L
Screedo One Blackberry and one Mexican Airlines were germinated. The Mexican Airlines failed to germinate so a second was started a couple days later. Both went into rockwool cubes for a few days and were put into 5 gallon pots of promix. Sunshine during the day, 23w led at night (just to keep my photo plants awake). Let’s see how this goes!
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Week 2. Vegetation
6y ago
7.62 cm
16 hrs
29 °C
7
No Smell
85 %
24 °C
19 L
Nutrients 1
Grow Big - Fox Farm
Grow Big 0.651 mll
Screedo The blackberry and mexican airlines both are chugging along. Two weeks down, not much to report.
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Week 3. Vegetation
6y ago
12.7 cm
16 hrs
29 °C
7
No Smell
85 %
24 °C
19 L
Nutrients 1
Grow Big - Fox Farm
Grow Big 0.651 mll
Screedo This week had less sunshine than the previous week. They’re still chugging along. The blackberry is already showing preflowers. Looking at other journals I feel like these two are smaller than they should be at 3 weeks, but this is my first auto grow so I have no idea. They both look healthy and should be getting their second watering within the next few days.
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Screedo
Screedostarted grow question 6y ago
I hear a lot about topping at the 3-5th node, but are these seedlings are small. Can plants this size be topped or should I wait?
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DankGardener
DankGardeneranswered grow question 6y ago
Hey screedo I went back to your week 3 veg pics for question. Yes you can top them. Earlier the better more time for those shoots to grow up and become a main cola. As long as your plant is healthy it will bounce right back in a couple of days. I top at 4th node 4 way lst then scrog. I don't have any problems.
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BuddingBudda
BuddingBuddaanswered grow question 6y ago
They look like it might stunt them, you want them to have a good root structure before topping so they can handle the stress and at that size it doesnt look like they would have one so i would wait a little longer if i was going to top them. Id look on it at a plant by plant basis though if it was the right candidate for topping and with that being an auto and of smaller size i would probably look more into the LST technique. Happy growing mate 👌
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GreenHouseLab
GreenHouseLabanswered grow question 6y ago
When you have strong growth topping will give you more buds in the end. But if your experiencing slower growth than the plants potential you won't get the full results you'd be expecting. At this point in your grow I would leave them as is learn from experience and try topping next time around. Best of luck!
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Week 4. Vegetation
6y ago
12.7 cm
16 hrs
29 °C
7
No Smell
85 %
24 °C
19 L
Nutrients 1
Grow Big - Fox Farm
Grow Big 0.651 mll
Screedo Week four has brought some disappointment. The Blackberry plant has started to flower. What I thought were preflowers forming never stopped and the top is not growing new nodes. It looks like I'll be lucky to get a few grams off of her by the time she's done. I am quite impressed with the dark color of the calyxes. The Mexican Airlines is growing at the same slow rate, but hasn't yet developed preflowers and looks like it is still vegetating. I decided to try a little LST with them, and it doesn't seem to have bothered them. Both plants seem healthy, but both seem to be rather small for their age. My thoughts are that the medium I'm using doesn't drain well enough so the girls have had wet feet since day one and since the medium doesn't dry out, I don't feel I should water them. What this has meant is that I've only fed them 1/4 strenght nutes once during week 2. The only other thing I can think of is my lighting. I have them outdoors during daylight hours and they share a 30w daylight LED spotlight at 12" at night for about 6 hours. I don't think the LED does much, but daylight maxes out at 13 hours with 6-8 hours of direct sunlight when not cloudy. Lacking any experience with autoflowers I have no idea if this is enough sunlight for them to grow large outdoors. I'm popping seeds to try again and plan to use a 70/30 perlite/coco mix in 3 gal hempy buckets. I figure this will allow the medium to drain and dry more quickly, and allow me to feed more regularly. Anyone have thoughts or suggestions?
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Week 5. Flowering
6y ago
25.4 cm
16 hrs
29 °C
6
No Smell
85 %
24 °C
19 L
Nutrients 1
Tiger Bloom - Fox Farm
Tiger Bloom 1.302 mll
Screedo So, after diagnosing overpotting and overwatering I consider this round a lesson learned. I did some pretty cringe worthy things to see if I could somehow improve conditions. Since the blackberry is a lost cause, all I did was remove as much medium as I could from the top. The root system is quite small and I removed quite a bit of wet medium. I’m hoping the reduction will help it breathe a bit better. I went a different route with the Mexican Airlines. I decided to remove it from the pot, remove most of the medium while leaving as much root mass as possible, and repot in a 70% perlite medium. I figured it would have a chance to bounce back as it still has yet to begin flowering. I haven’t noticed much change for better or worse in either plant. I’ve since started a new blackberry seedling in 75/25 perlite coco mix. Hoping the change will bring better results. The blackberry smells fruity when touched, and is black. Even parts of the main stalk are a deep purple.
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Week 6. Flowering
6y ago
38.1 cm
16 hrs
29 °C
6
No Smell
85 %
24 °C
19 L
Nutrients 1
Tiger Bloom - Fox Farm
Tiger Bloom 1.953 mll
Screedo The blackberry is a lost cause. It is still progressing, but I'll get a couple bong rips off of her at best. It does smell and look quite nice, considering the sad shape of the plant. On the other hand, the Mexican Airlines seems to be responding well to its new medium. After changing out the medium, I untied all LST ties and just let it grow. It has since doubled in size and I've begun training again. It is full of preflowers but is still vegging so I'm hopeful for a decent yield.
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Week 7. Flowering
6y ago
38.1 cm
16 hrs
29 °C
6
No Smell
85 %
24 °C
19 L
Nutrients 1
Tiger Bloom - Fox Farm
Tiger Bloom 1.953 mll
Screedo The Blackberry is continuing to develop and smells really sweet when touched. Looks to be almost ready. I’m hoping for better results the next time around. The Mexican Airlines has made a full recovery and is looking healthy. At the end of week 7 it is still not flowering. I’m happy it’s still getting bigger but am beginning to wonder if it is indeed an auto. I took a few small cuttings in the off chance that it’s not an auto. Overall, nothing really noteworthy this week.
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Week 8. Flowering
6y ago
38.1 cm
16 hrs
29 °C
6
No Smell
85 %
24 °C
19 L
Nutrients 1
Tiger Bloom - Fox Farm
Tiger Bloom 1.953 mll
Screedo The blackberry looks to be about a week or two to go. With the soggy medium, I’ll only get one more watering in so it’ll be the flush. Might get a couple grams off of her. I started another blackberry a few weeks back and it looks like it too has begun to flower after 3 or so weeks. It’s in a well draining medium this time so I’m at least hoping for better results. The Mexican Airlines is chugging along. It’s starting the 9 week of veg, and no signs of stopping. Once the last few branches fill out the far side of the pot I’ll put her in the greenhouse in case she’s a photo plant. What started out slow is now looking like it may be quite fruitful.
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Week 9. Flowering
6y ago
38.1 cm
16 hrs
29 °C
6
Weak
85 %
24 °C
19 L
Screedo The blackberry is just about done. Sooner than expected, it may not finish flushing, but it’s a lost cause anyway. Smells nice and sweet and looks decent considering what this plant has been through. The second blackberry plant looks like it’ll be a small one as well, but looks much healthier than the first. However, it lacks any purple whatsoever. The Mexican Airlines is now starting week 10 of veg. So, just in case it’s not an autoflower, I moved her to my greenhouse. She looks like she’ll be pretty big by the end of flower. Hoping for the best.
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Week 9. Harvest
6y ago
Happy Harvest Day!
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4/10
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This plant endured soggy medium from start to finish, so much of my disappointment is my own doing. That being said, I haven’t had any better luck with a second blackberry plant. It is also slow growing and very small despite much better growing conditions. This strain also attracted the most leaf miners and was the only plant to get aphids. It started flowering in week 3 to 4, so it didn’t have a chance to get big. The bud looked nice and dense but after trimming and drying is larfy all the way to the top. The good points are few though I haven’t smoked it yet. The color of purple this strain produces is insane. The buds are completely purple, no green. The leaves however were all green. Made trimming by color pretty easy. The buds started out red/magenta but soon turned almost black. In the sun the went from deep purple to magenta. Almost dry, it maintains a deep purple color. Smells nice and fruity.
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Ger Veg Flo Har
2 g
Bud dry weight per plant
1
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Normal
Difficulty
Taste
Berries, Fruity
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Day air temperature
Air humidity
PH
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Night air temperature
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Screedo This strain has not impressed me where it counts, vigor and yield. While others may have had success, this strain isn’t worth the effort in my case.
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Week 10. Flowering
6y ago
38.1 cm
16 hrs
29 °C
6
Weak
85 %
24 °C
19 L
Nutrients 2
Tiger Bloom - Fox Farm
Tiger Bloom 1.302 mll
Mammoth P - Mammoth Microbes
Mammoth P 0.132 mll
Screedo Well, she’s been out in the greenhouse with my photo girls for a couple of weeks now and it looks like she has started to flower. After 10 weeks, it’s looking like things are finally shaping up. Sad to say the only one of five Mexican Airlines seeds to germinate does not seem to be an autoflower after all. On the upside, I had a hunch this was the case and took a bunch of clones before putting her in the greenhouse, so I should get at least one more chance to grow this strain. She’s looking beautiful now, big thick stalk, lush green leaves. Just hoping it all goes well from here.
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Week 11. Flowering
6y ago
38.1 cm
13 hrs
29 °C
6
Weak
85 %
24 °C
19 L
2 L
Nutrients 2
Tiger Bloom - Fox Farm
Tiger Bloom 1.302 mll
Mammoth P - Mammoth Microbes
Mammoth P 0.132 mll
Screedo The Mexican Airlines is coming along nicely. Bud sites are filling out but still small as it’s still very early into flower. The plant itself doesn’t smell, but touching the leaves and buds, I’m reminded of a hotel shampoo here in Hawaii. Can’t quite put my finger on which one, but that’s what it smells like to me. My nose is kind of messed though. A few of the clones I cut from her have started to show new growth, so I’ll find out real soon for sure if she is an autoflower or not. I don’t think she’s an auto.
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Week 12. Flowering
6y ago
38.1 cm
13 hrs
29 °C
6
Weak
85 %
24 °C
19 L
2 L
Nutrients 2
Tiger Bloom - Fox Farm
Tiger Bloom 1.302 mll
Mammoth P - Mammoth Microbes
Mammoth P 0.132 mll
Screedo The Mexican Airlines continues to progress. The buds are filling in and it’s looking healthy. The cuttings I took from her still have me confused as to whether she’s an auto. Half seem to be flowering with almost no new growth over 3 weeks now, but definitely growing as a few now have trichomes forming on the leaves. This would indicate that it is indeed an autoflower. The other half of the cuttings appear to be growing vegetatively. One has grown 3 new nodes and has zero trichome formation. It looks to be growing vegetatively though slowly. I’m curious to see what will happen. None of the cuttings look promising but it was all for fun as I was pruning anyway.
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Week 13. Flowering
6y ago
38.1 cm
13 hrs
29 °C
6
Weak
85 %
24 °C
19 L
2 L
Nutrients 2
Hawaiian Bud and Bloom 5-50-17 1.302 mll
Mammoth P - Mammoth Microbes
Mammoth P 0.132 mll
Screedo This plane is going down. I had to remove 4 buds yesterday and 3 today due to mold. We just had a tropical storm pass and have another on the way. Lots of heavy rain and humidity in the mid 80’s. It’s not looking good. It really smells nice so I’m hoping it’ll pull through.
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Week 14. Flowering
6y ago
38.1 cm
13 hrs
29 °C
6
Weak
85 %
24 °C
19 L
2 L
Nutrients 2
Hawaiian Bud and Bloom 5-50-17 1.302 mll
Mammoth P - Mammoth Microbes
Mammoth P 0.132 mll
Screedo The mold is relentless. I’ve had to cut at least 7 colas during the past few days. The stormy weather took its toll, but the sun is out again. Hoping that diligence will help me salvage some of this plant as it’s the only one I have. All the cuts I took are flowering, so although it took forever, it is indeed an auto.
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Week 15. Flowering
6y ago
38.1 cm
13 hrs
29 °C
6
Weak
85 %
24 °C
19 L
2 L
Nutrients 2
Hawaiian Bud and Bloom 5-50-17 1.302 mll
Mammoth P - Mammoth Microbes
Mammoth P 0.132 mll
Screedo The mold has slowed but about half my harvest has been lost. With the weather so nice the past few days, I’m flushing her until the next rainy day when she’ll get chopped. Would have yielded nicely if it weren’t for the mold, but with the weather we’ve had the past month she’s done alright. Smells real nice. Matter of days now.
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Week 15. Harvest
6y ago
Happy Harvest Day!
Spent 114 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
1.25 g
Bud wet weight per plant
1
Plants
Easy
Difficulty
Taste
Citrus, Flowery, Pine
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Height
Day air temperature
Air humidity
PH
Light schedule
Night air temperature
Pot size
Screedo I started out with 5 seeds, but only 1 germinated. 90% success rate with every other strain I’ve tried so these were either bad seeds or bad genetics. The lone survivor took 10 weeks to start flowering, which may be partly due to stress early on and not necessarily a bad thing. This strain seems to have little mold resistance as I was losing a cola per day for about a week. Due to the mold I had to harvest early and lost about 1/2 of the finished product. Trimmed up it looks like it’ll be a bit over 1 oz dry. Smells nice.
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Week 16. Flowering
6y ago
38.1 cm
13 hrs
29 °C
6
Weak
85 %
24 °C
19 L
2 L
Nutrients 2
Hawaiian Bud and Bloom 5-50-17 1.302 mll
Mammoth P - Mammoth Microbes
Mammoth P 0.132 mll
Screedo Just wanted to give credit where credit is due. Fastbuds hit me up due to my review. I wasn’t complaining about Fastbuds, but was just giving my honest opinion about my experience. Unsatisfied that I was unsatisfied, Fastbuds sent me seeds to replace those that didn’t germinate. I didn’t expect it and I really appreciate it! Can’t wait to try out these new beans.
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rhodes68
rhodes68commentedweek 46y ago
Having similar issues with the bad weather, it impacts these autos pretty hard. Thinking next time they dont go outside until the droughts hit in late June but then there is the smoke... heheh this is why farmers always look worried
rhodes68
rhodes68commented6y ago
@canablizz, It has its challenges but then how else would I get a 13 plant grow going? ;) I can fit four in the tent but the rest have to go somewhere and well they dont do well in the living room.
canablizz
canablizzcommented6y ago
@rhodes68, that made me LOL about the farmer's always look worried. It's very risky growing outdoors.
growdoctordc
growdoctordccommentedweek 46y ago
“Mexican Airlines” made me laugh! Strain names are often silly, and this is now at the top of my list! Love it! Any idea of name origination? I’m guessing Sativa that makes you fly? Despite the poor reputation of Mexican marijuana in the 70s here on the mainland, there has always been damn good weed in Mexico. The best stuff never makes it out of Mexico! The biggest, most beautiful, red pistil and trichome encrusted colas I’ve ever seen were Mexican. But I’m sorry to hear of your setbacks. You are a skilled grower. You’ll bounce back. Keep at it! Saludos/aloha
rhodes68
rhodes68commented6y ago
@growdoctordc, I would pick another sativa to grow MA has issues period. Six Shooter does look interesting it has the MA genes in part which is why I wont touch it, MA left a very bad taste over here with only 1 out of 5 germinating and growing as expected, 2 dead seeds, 2 genetic oddities that well didn't make it far. This is the reality of that strain. Interestingly the one good I did get is very good. Go figure
growdoctordc
growdoctordccommented6y ago
@Wicked_Stix, That sounds terrific! I want to believe there are still pure Sativa strains available, but there’s been so much cross breeding, I don’t have faith in most breeders. I first grew using only the Colombian red bag seeds we had in Panama Lol! Grow a Sativa for 11 or 12 months, let it cure properly, and you’ve got some fine, sublime weed! I am definitely buying a ticket for a ride on Mexican Airlines! Thanks for the explanation
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stixcommented6y ago
@growdoctordc, it is a mix of mexican and Columbian sativa. Not supposed to be any indica in it. Definitely on my list to try. I grew up growing nothing but Mexican bag seeds and they usually put off some huge potent buds.
rhodes68
rhodes68commentedweek 76y ago
On the Mex Air I managed to save one of those and its a great plant but seems slow to flower after any stress genetic or otherwise. Its a pure sativa so doesn't like grow tents in the first place, mine is incredibly happier outdoors than in when I can get some sun (HA!) , it will get there. With these guys its all about the sun :) Good luck
Stick
Stickcommentedweek 56y ago
Hi @Screedo! When I'm growing autos, I always adapt my technique depending on the plant's speed and strength. Each strain has its way to grow and some do not like to be topped. I only allow myself to top or fim the most healthy/fast/beautiful strains, otherwise it's a loss of time leading to a loss of yield. Hope this makes sense, happy growing! 👊
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 46y ago
Hey there, it's too late for you to top as the plant is well into flower by now, for your next run make sure you have a good VPD which is basically 25°C and 60%RH and you'll have a much faster growing and larger plant that you'll be able to top. Read about VPD here : https://getpulse.co/blog/vpd anything else you need just let me know ! 🚀
Fast_Buds
Fast_Budscommentedweek 16y ago
Hey there! Good luck with your Fast Buds babies =) Let us know if you need anything and Enjoy Growing Faster 💚
rhodes68
rhodes68commentedweek 16y ago
I have also recently had issues with Fast Buds Mecican Airlines germinating normally. Out of 5 only two germed , BTW my rate with just bag seed is near 100% so it aint me and I doubt if it was you either. Time to tell FB they got issues
rhodes68
rhodes68commented6y ago
@Screedo, All I can advise is if any remain (5+5) treat as old or green seeds to germinate, it might help.
rhodes68
rhodes68commented6y ago
@Screedo, Contact Fast Buds, they made good on mine which had almost exactly the same results, one good plant out of five seeds. Seriously something went amiss here but they try to make it right.
Screedo
Screedocommented6y ago
@rhodes68, I now have attempted to germinate all 5 of the Mexican Airlines seeds. Of the 3 I had left, 2 did nothing, while the last one popped but failed to grow. So, I only have 1 successful germination with my 5 seeds. I'm 2 for 2 with the Blackberry and also at near 100% with bagseed. The MA seeds I had looked a bit young and light colored. I'm guessing they just weren't viable.
CoastGrower
CoastGrowercommentedweek 76y ago
That blackberry looks crazy.. Now that you have cut of some tips of your plant I really hope it’s not an Autoflower because if it was you will have stunt her growth and that would be the worst for a auto..
CoastGrower
CoastGrowercommented6y ago
@Screedo, thank god it’s a forgiving plant :). Enjoy your sunday!
Screedo
Screedocommented6y ago
@CoastGrower, she was getting pruned either way. Just figured waste not want not. I have another blackberry about 2 weeks old, I’ll see how she does with a transplant as that’s the only option now.
canablizz
canablizzcommentedweek 66y ago
Oh damn that stinks!! I use little pots that plants come in from like Home Depot then when they get root bound I move to a bigger container.
CoastGrower
CoastGrowercommented6y ago
@Screedo, I have 2 plants of the same strain.. 1 germinated in a 25L pot and the other in a small pot and when it got bigger I transplanted her.. she’s not even 3/4 of the size of the one that never got transplanted.. There is a reason why Every breeder sais you can’t transplant and that reason is because it is true..
Screedo
Screedocommented6y ago
@canablizz, It's my first auto grow. I read a few times that they don't have time to recover from the stress, so to start them in their final pot. My grower buddy told me that's load of BS. So my next round is going in 4" pots to start.
canablizz
canablizzcommentedweek 66y ago
Blueberry looks like it has been thirsty for a long time but the mexican airlines looks promising.
Screedo
Screedocommented6y ago
@canablizz, Both were overpotted, and the Blackberry has been soggy since day 1. I removed as much medium as I could, and the top layer is only dry from the sun. Have only watered 2 times in 6 weeks and it is still wet. Learned my lesson with seedlings in 5 gal pots.
Cannibalgardens
Cannibalgardenscommentedweek 146y ago
Sorry to hear about that mold man it sucks and can be relentless too ,best of luck ..
rhodes68
rhodes68commentedweek 106y ago
Well it seems your survivor is a big one, same thing happened to me only a 30% germ rate on this strain but what does make it turns out well, but that could be the Growers :)
rhodes68
rhodes68commentedweek 36y ago
I understand about the lack of sunshine, we have been dealing with the same thing a couple of times having to bring em inside to get light. Been a cold wet spring so far. They looking healthy :)
CoastGrower
CoastGrowercommentedweek 16y ago
I hope all goes perfect!
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