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Screedo Screedo
5 years ago
The Mexican Airlines is coming along nicely. Bud sites are filling out but still small as it’s still very early into flower. The plant itself doesn’t smell, but touching the leaves and buds, I’m reminded of a hotel shampoo here in Hawaii. Can’t quite put my finger on which one, but that’s what it smells like to me. My nose is kind of messed though. A few of the clones I cut from her have started to show new growth, so I’ll find out real soon for sure if she is an autoflower or not. I don’t think she’s an auto.
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Grow Questions
Screedo
Screedostarted grow question 5 years ago
I hear a lot about topping at the 3-5th node, but are these seedlings are small. Can plants this size be topped or should I wait?
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DankGardener
DankGardeneranswered grow question 5 years ago
Hey screedo I went back to your week 3 veg pics for question. Yes you can top them. Earlier the better more time for those shoots to grow up and become a main cola. As long as your plant is healthy it will bounce right back in a couple of days. I top at 4th node 4 way lst then scrog. I don't have any problems.
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BuddingBudda
BuddingBuddaanswered grow question 5 years ago
They look like it might stunt them, you want them to have a good root structure before topping so they can handle the stress and at that size it doesnt look like they would have one so i would wait a little longer if i was going to top them. Id look on it at a plant by plant basis though if it was the right candidate for topping and with that being an auto and of smaller size i would probably look more into the LST technique. Happy growing mate 👌
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GreenHouseLab
GreenHouseLabanswered grow question 5 years ago
When you have strong growth topping will give you more buds in the end. But if your experiencing slower growth than the plants potential you won't get the full results you'd be expecting. At this point in your grow I would leave them as is learn from experience and try topping next time around. Best of luck!
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rhodes68
rhodes68week 4
Having similar issues with the bad weather, it impacts these autos pretty hard. Thinking next time they dont go outside until the droughts hit in late June but then there is the smoke... heheh this is why farmers always look worried
rhodes68
rhodes68
@canablizz, It has its challenges but then how else would I get a 13 plant grow going? ;) I can fit four in the tent but the rest have to go somewhere and well they dont do well in the living room.
canablizz
canablizz
@rhodes68, that made me LOL about the farmer's always look worried. It's very risky growing outdoors.
growdoctordc
growdoctordcweek 4
“Mexican Airlines” made me laugh! Strain names are often silly, and this is now at the top of my list! Love it! Any idea of name origination? I’m guessing Sativa that makes you fly? Despite the poor reputation of Mexican marijuana in the 70s here on the mainland, there has always been damn good weed in Mexico. The best stuff never makes it out of Mexico! The biggest, most beautiful, red pistil and trichome encrusted colas I’ve ever seen were Mexican. But I’m sorry to hear of your setbacks. You are a skilled grower. You’ll bounce back. Keep at it! Saludos/aloha
rhodes68
rhodes68
@growdoctordc, I would pick another sativa to grow MA has issues period. Six Shooter does look interesting it has the MA genes in part which is why I wont touch it, MA left a very bad taste over here with only 1 out of 5 germinating and growing as expected, 2 dead seeds, 2 genetic oddities that well didn't make it far. This is the reality of that strain. Interestingly the one good I did get is very good. Go figure
growdoctordc
growdoctordc
@Wicked_Stix, That sounds terrific! I want to believe there are still pure Sativa strains available, but there’s been so much cross breeding, I don’t have faith in most breeders. I first grew using only the Colombian red bag seeds we had in Panama Lol! Grow a Sativa for 11 or 12 months, let it cure properly, and you’ve got some fine, sublime weed! I am definitely buying a ticket for a ride on Mexican Airlines! Thanks for the explanation
Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stix
@growdoctordc, it is a mix of mexican and Columbian sativa. Not supposed to be any indica in it. Definitely on my list to try. I grew up growing nothing but Mexican bag seeds and they usually put off some huge potent buds.
rhodes68
rhodes68week 7
On the Mex Air I managed to save one of those and its a great plant but seems slow to flower after any stress genetic or otherwise. Its a pure sativa so doesn't like grow tents in the first place, mine is incredibly happier outdoors than in when I can get some sun (HA!) , it will get there. With these guys its all about the sun :) Good luck
Stick
Stickweek 5
Hi @Screedo! When I'm growing autos, I always adapt my technique depending on the plant's speed and strength. Each strain has its way to grow and some do not like to be topped. I only allow myself to top or fim the most healthy/fast/beautiful strains, otherwise it's a loss of time leading to a loss of yield. Hope this makes sense, happy growing! 👊
CRiSPrGrow
CRiSPrGrowweek 4
Hey there, it's too late for you to top as the plant is well into flower by now, for your next run make sure you have a good VPD which is basically 25°C and 60%RH and you'll have a much faster growing and larger plant that you'll be able to top. Read about VPD here : https://getpulse.co/blog/vpd anything else you need just let me know ! 🚀
Fast_Buds
Fast_Budsweek 1
Hey there! Good luck with your Fast Buds babies =) Let us know if you need anything and Enjoy Growing Faster 💚
rhodes68
rhodes68week 1
I have also recently had issues with Fast Buds Mecican Airlines germinating normally. Out of 5 only two germed , BTW my rate with just bag seed is near 100% so it aint me and I doubt if it was you either. Time to tell FB they got issues
rhodes68
rhodes68
@Screedo, All I can advise is if any remain (5+5) treat as old or green seeds to germinate, it might help.
rhodes68
rhodes68
@Screedo, Contact Fast Buds, they made good on mine which had almost exactly the same results, one good plant out of five seeds. Seriously something went amiss here but they try to make it right.
Screedo
Screedo
@rhodes68, I now have attempted to germinate all 5 of the Mexican Airlines seeds. Of the 3 I had left, 2 did nothing, while the last one popped but failed to grow. So, I only have 1 successful germination with my 5 seeds. I'm 2 for 2 with the Blackberry and also at near 100% with bagseed. The MA seeds I had looked a bit young and light colored. I'm guessing they just weren't viable.
CoastGrower
CoastGrowerweek 7
That blackberry looks crazy.. Now that you have cut of some tips of your plant I really hope it’s not an Autoflower because if it was you will have stunt her growth and that would be the worst for a auto..
CoastGrower
CoastGrower
@Screedo, thank god it’s a forgiving plant :). Enjoy your sunday!
Screedo
Screedo
@CoastGrower, she was getting pruned either way. Just figured waste not want not. I have another blackberry about 2 weeks old, I’ll see how she does with a transplant as that’s the only option now.
canablizz
canablizzweek 6
Oh damn that stinks!! I use little pots that plants come in from like Home Depot then when they get root bound I move to a bigger container.
CoastGrower
CoastGrower
@Screedo, I have 2 plants of the same strain.. 1 germinated in a 25L pot and the other in a small pot and when it got bigger I transplanted her.. she’s not even 3/4 of the size of the one that never got transplanted.. There is a reason why Every breeder sais you can’t transplant and that reason is because it is true..
Screedo
Screedo
@canablizz, It's my first auto grow. I read a few times that they don't have time to recover from the stress, so to start them in their final pot. My grower buddy told me that's load of BS. So my next round is going in 4" pots to start.
canablizz
canablizzweek 6
Blueberry looks like it has been thirsty for a long time but the mexican airlines looks promising.
Screedo
Screedo
@canablizz, Both were overpotted, and the Blackberry has been soggy since day 1. I removed as much medium as I could, and the top layer is only dry from the sun. Have only watered 2 times in 6 weeks and it is still wet. Learned my lesson with seedlings in 5 gal pots.
Cannibalgardens
Cannibalgardensweek 14
Sorry to hear about that mold man it sucks and can be relentless too ,best of luck ..
rhodes68
rhodes68week 10
Well it seems your survivor is a big one, same thing happened to me only a 30% germ rate on this strain but what does make it turns out well, but that could be the Growers :)
rhodes68
rhodes68week 3
I understand about the lack of sunshine, we have been dealing with the same thing a couple of times having to bring em inside to get light. Been a cold wet spring so far. They looking healthy :)
CoastGrower
CoastGrowerweek 1
I hope all goes perfect!