SierraKilo1313 Pre requisite: Sanitized mediumwith Silver nitrate and Hydrogen peroxide and pre buffered coco-medium with light nutes, silica and calmag , seed soaked in Bascillus and Potassium humate for 8 hours all sprouted with a tail.
Germination:
100ml drench with microbial solution(mycorrhizae,pseudomonas,trichoderma)after sowing into the cooco-medium pit. One is completely out and has a white spot on the cotyledon, don't know if it is due to condensation and had a burn. Any advice please feel free.
My first grow please help your fellow grower out if I am missing something.
What if the EC of my coco medium is 0.18 but the nutrient solution being introduced is EC 0.7, what am I supposed to understand with the above situation and what is the solution?
The ec of the coco is probably not nutrient related. Just ignore it. .18 is a lot lower than my tap water, lol.
The beauty of soilless is that ech time you fertigate with 10% runoff or more, you basically reset the nutrient solution around the roots and avoid buildup. So, any and all symptoms you see is 100% about you adjusting your formula to avoid those problems in the future.
I wouldn't just track EC. use a free app or website to calculate ppms of NPKCaMgS. If you know how much of each you feed, you can make more intelligent adjustments based on what you see. Within a grow or two if your first choice of fertilizers is a good one, you'll quickly have confidence to grow plants healthy from seed to harvest. Fertilizer isn't even on my mind when i grow. I try new things, but almost always revert back to my base formula. Systematically trying 1 or few things at a time -- like for a couple years i was trying higher levels of P and that was useless effort, so i stopped using the little P booster (0-46-0).
do the basics right and be systematic - whether coco or any other soilless medium. Always fertigate. Always get 10% runoff. While you may start with a reduced concentration with seedlings, it isn't necessary as normal soilless levels are safe - 1.2-1.5EC overall, not counting your coco or tap water.
You'll probably need to figure out vege phase - transition - bloom formulas, but again, if systematic, it won't take long to dial it in. I have my ppm break down in my recent diaries at various points.. think germ, flip to flower and the previous week or 2 weeks ago i shifted again... at FD 26 i cut feed by 50%, because of what i see in the plants and vege growth stopped, so it needs less going forward. a more drastic drop is something new for me, and hopefully it avoids overfed plants late flower. NEver a huge problem, but still want to learn to avoid it.
SierraKilo1313 1 GC last stunted survivor, 1 SG stunted survivor and remainder 2 SG and 3 SS are going good let's see where this grow will take us.
I tried germinating Gorilla glue 4 but both of them didn't push through after sowing them.
I might be doing something completely wrong while sowing. Can't push more seeds through germination because the rest of them are at different stages of grow and everything will fall apart.
Let's hope the 7 plants make it through fingers cross.
Review: Plants aren't as green as I would expect them to be either the medium is too inert that they are turning yellow and stunted.
So I tried fixing it with aggressive push of nutes and checked the EC and now it's at a comfortable 0.70 average among all the pots improving from meager 0.20.
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Week 2. Vegetation
1mo ago
1/9
15.24 cm
Height
24 hrs
Light Schedule
26 Β°C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
No Smell
Smell
700 PPM
TDS
68 %
Air Humidity
25 Β°C
Solution Temp
26 Β°C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
1.48 liters
Watering Volume
91.44 cm
Lamp Distance
400 PPM
COβ Level
Nutrients 5
3-Part Nutrient system
1.8 mll
Mycorrhizae
5 mll
Pseudomonas
5 mll
SierraKilo1313 A couple of plants have light yellowing with veins popping don't know why? Any suggestions.
They have started growing node 3 and 4 hoping to improve from here on out.
The bottom end of coco bags don't dry completely at all is that common?
Please help
SierraKilo1313 Had to flush the entire system due to bad nutrient lock for all the pots at the start of the week due to over kill approach of thinking plants need more food.
Now slowly increasing the nutes and microbial inoculation back to square one.
Most of them have recovered from the stress, hope to have a lot of vegetative growth this week.
Having issues with VPD due to humidity issues but figured out a way to get it sorted.
So many variables are key, my first road to adventure is full of surprises.
Lst and light defoliation.
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LST
Technique
Defoliation
Technique
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Week 4. Vegetation
1mo ago
1/11
30.48 cm
Height
24 hrs
Light Schedule
26 Β°C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
Weak
Smell
350 PPM
TDS
68 %
Air Humidity
25 Β°C
Solution Temp
26 Β°C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
0.98 liters
Watering Volume
60.96 cm
Lamp Distance
600 PPM
COβ Level
Nutrients 8
3-Part Nutrient system
0.6 mll
Pseudomonas
5 mll
Silica - Cal mag
1 mll
SierraKilo1313 Mid week, veg vigour has been mediocre let's see if it finishes of the week on a high.
Light LST and Defoliation.
Low temps 68-74F and RH @ 60-65% are killing me, need a little bit more temprature control.
Learning as I keep going with the needs of the plant.
Dropped the light to see if that helps. Fingers cross will update by the end of the week.
Mid week update 1:
I feel like my plants aren't showing any signs of bloom yet, I am hoping they will in a few days let's see I wish they could veg a little long before they start stretching.
Got them a bottle with a wick just to keep them happy when I am not around. Hopefully the trick works.
Integrated Pest Management Foliar spray with Bascillus Subtilllus and Beauveria bassiana.
Mid week update 2:
I figured the root zone temperature fell to 17 C due to AC running in dry mode. Changed it to cool mode 23 C hopefully the plants bounce back after me trying to screw around with them too much. Perfecting the art with what I got. Defoliation,light LST & lollipopping. Let's see where do we end up on the first day of week 5.
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Week 5. Vegetation
15d ago
1/8
30.48 cm
Height
24 hrs
Light Schedule
26 Β°C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
Normal
Smell
350 PPM
TDS
68 %
Air Humidity
25 Β°C
Solution Temp
26 Β°C
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
0.98 liters
Watering Volume
60.96 cm
Lamp Distance
600 PPM
COβ Level
Nutrients 8
3-Part Nutrient system
1 mll
Pseudomonas
5 mll
Silica - Cal mag
1 mll
SierraKilo1313 Light LST and Defoliation to clear canopy when needed.
I think I skipped a week in lieu of consideration of thinking the first two cotyledon leaves were true leaves and started week 1 veg.
The plants have started stretching no white pistils hair yet late late Veg I am hoping to see some improvement in terms of maturation nothing to hurry but that would be great. Trying to stretch the plants out more but the grow bags are in the way so have to do a step lst to clear the bags first. Something to work on the next time.
Switched to 20-4 lighting instead of blasting it for 24 hours straight. The DLI is good at 72% 24 inches away.
Should I continue to defoliation for light penetration till I see the white pistil hair as indication of plant maturity and bloom onset or stop it for a week or till the plant sets itself up ? Please answer based on my photos.
No leave them, there fine, theres actually holes in the canopy, don't take any more off until after the stretch if your in need of pull some off. Nice plants btw
Hi Buddy so what the leaves are actually saying πΏ
Key visual cues
β’ Edges curling up / canoeing β classic light or heat stress
β’ Leaves still fairly lightβmedium green β not nutrient toxicity
β’ No dark, glossy βclawβ β rules out nitrogen excess
β’ No burnt tips or necrotic margins β unlikely overfeeding
β’ New growth looks tighter β light intensity too high for current stage
This is one of those situations where the plant is saying:
βEverything is okayβ¦ just a bit too intense up top.β
βΈ»
Light vs nutrients β the short answer
β’ Light stress: β very likely
β’ Nutrient issue: β unlikely (at least not the primary cause)
If it were nutrients, weβd expect darker leaves, clawing, tip burn, or patchy discoloration. Instead, this looks like the plant protecting itself from excess intensity.
βΈ»
What Iβd gently suggest (no panic moves and remember this is just my humble opinion please follow your instincts)
β’ Raise the light a little or reduce intensity ~10β15%
β’ Check canopy temps (especially leaf surface, not just room)
β’ Ensure good airflow across the tops
β’ No need to change feed right now if EC / watering routine is stable
Usually, within a day or two, those leaves relax back down.
Meaning from the photos this looks more like light/heat stress than a nutrient issue.
The upward curl / canoeing on the leaf edges is a common response when the light intensity is a bit high for the plantβs current stage. Color looks healthy overallβno dark clawing or burnt tips that would point to overfeeding.
Iβd try slightly raising the light or dialing intensity back a bit and keep an eye on canopy temps and airflow. If thatβs the cause, you should see the leaves relax within a day or two.
Nothing looks seriousβjust the plant asking for a little less intensity π
Growers Love my friend, here if anything is needed π have a wonderful weekended π
Do you think these will recover from a plain water with silica,cal mag and microbial flush ? Run off is sitting at 1.8 at this particular point trying to do a flush once everyday to get back to 1.2 ?
Hi .....
ich wΓΌrde die nΓ€chsten male mit ph angepasstem Wasser spΓΌlen, bis der ec Wert wieder im normalen Bereich ist.....
Gib ihr etwas Zeit und Ruhe, das sie sich von all dem Stress erholen kannπ
Das wird schon wieder π
viel GlΓΌck
SierraKilo1313 Ended the previous week with excess nutrients in the system and trying to achieve the runoff needed by plain watering everyday till it comes back to normal. The plants are looking to bounce back up. I feel like one is stunted hopefully not two.
I'm working with them as I go, see hairy pistils growth over the canopy, I think it will be more prominent as the days pass by hopefully transition is smoother with no more mishaps.
Planning on doing alternate plain water feeds to reduce buildup due to the nutrients once the medium bounces back to normal EC levels and keep my EC below 1.2 strictly.
Sg1 has a yellow water run off which doesn't feel like it healthy. Hopefully that fixes bh the end of the week.
Mid week:
The buds have started to form can see all the sites and hoping to see some more stretch, defoliated a little at the bottom but have to do it in bits.
The yellow colour run off has slightly improved for sg1, let's see what happens.
Humidity has become a pain for me to control. Have to some how figure out how to get a split AC in lung room set up to dial it in. It gets too cold during night cycle drops to 64 F or 17 C. Let's hope I don't catch mold.
Can we use like 10ppm or less concentration of GA3 Gibberellic Acid for the stunted plant in starting week of flowering to gain some growth and finish off well ? Any suggestions? Please answer if you tried it.
Short answer: I wouldnβt recommend it, especially at the start of flower.
GA3 definitely works in the sense that it forces stretch β but thatβs also the problem.
From people (and a few experiments) whoβve actually tried it on cannabis:
Even very low doses (5β10 ppm) can cause excessive internode stretch
Bud structure often gets loose / airy
It can delay or reduce proper flower development
Resin and terpene production usually suffers
Timing is extremely unforgiving β a tiny bit too much and you canβt undo it
GA3 is sometimes used deliberately to:
force male flowers
produce seedless / malformed flowers in breeding or research
That alone should tell you itβs not really a βfinishing aid.β
If a plant is stunted going into flower, GA3 doesnβt fix the cause β it just overrides the plantβs hormones, often trading short-term stretch for lower-quality buds.
What works better in practice:
Stabilize the root zone (watering, EC, oxygen)
Reduce stress and let the plant redirect energy naturally
Gentle canopy management and patience
Iβve yet to see someone use GA3 in early flower and say βthis improved yield and quality.β Most say they wouldnβt do it again.
So unless this is an experiment and youβre okay with unpredictable results, Iβd skip GA3 and let the plant finish on its own.
SierraKilo1313 Bloom week 1.1 in progress
Plants are doing good they are stretching everyday, seems like I have sorted out the nutrient issues fixed humidity issues temp is a tad bit high at 28C. Hoping to see more buds soon.raised the light again by a few inches.
Bloom week 1.2
Plants have started maturing narrow leaf structure quite evident. E.c is under control. Defoliation for better canopy penetration. Expecting a little bit more stretch. Let's see Buds are stacking.
π SierraKilo, very ambitious for a first grow. Glππ€. You might want to separate into 3 diaries. If you want to enter contests( which im sure you will) one strain per diary.. environments the same, copy paste to each one. Check home tab for contests, question location and so much more. Have fun ππ«
@Natrona, No contests yet for me, need to work on my growing skills and get better at it. After the first three to four then I might get into the contest game.
@SierraKilo1313, Don't discount your growing skills,. You will be surprised. You are growing autos which and be finicky. 1) reduce nutrients to 1/2 the recommended dose. Watch for nutrients deficiency, increase if needed. Water sparingly, for the first week i mist 2x daily. Then gradually increase water amount but only every 3-4days. Autos can be trained LST some may tolerate topping but most breeders say to avoid HST wirh autos.
A couple of Gorilla cookies didn't emerge while running t hand on the top soil I severed it's root I'm hoping it will push through but have Gorilla glue auto on the side germinating so might be a slight switch in the strain profile.
Will update in a couple of days
