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LED/238W
Light
LED/525W
Light
Indoor
Room Type
FIMing
weeks Technique
Soil
Grow medium
Strain
00seeds2 - 00 KUSH
The Church
Green House Seed Co.
Growing it
Normal
Resistance
Strong
Great strain, very potent, wish I didn't mess up in the flower stage and had a better yield. The high hits almost instantly and is actually pretty intense for about 20-30 minutes. Probably too intense if you are a lightweight. It tapers off nice and peacefully though. The smell and taste of this pheno is licorice with a berry/fruity inhale and caramel on the exhale. If you have the resources to grow a bunch of these at a time, or have the time to train this plant out, or do whatever you can to increase the yield, I recommend this strain. Be careful at the beginning though, I popped 3 seeds and kept the best one, but all 3 had deformities.
The Outcome
Week 13
Harvest
What's on the scales?
30.55
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
What's on the scales?
106.65
gram
ounce
Bud wet weight
Harvested
1
Number of plants harvested
Grow Room
0.07
ft²
Grow Room size
0.06
g / watt
436.43
g / m²
30.55
g / plant
14.29
plant / m²
7500
watt / m²
Tastes like
Berries
Caramel
Mint
Feels like
50% Sativa 50% Indica

Positive effects

Creative
Euphoric
Hungry

Negative effects

Dry eyes
Dry mouth
Nutrients
It works great and I always make sure to use it (you only need a tiny bit too).
I like the idea of it, but would need to do a grow without after I have more experience to really see the difference.
It works, but I didn't use a lot this time around.
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MovingOn MovingOn
5 years ago
Sorry again for the late post, my schedule gets too full, too fast, but at least it gave me time to get a good cure. I really wish I could have got a better yield, but as you know if you have been following, I ran out of nutes during flower, and I was lucky to make it out with what I did get. Because of my schedule, I had to use a quick drying machine made specifically for cannabis called Herbsnow. Well, it works, but unfortunately for me it brought an initial hay smell. I read that this can happen with the dryer if the relative humidity is too low in the room that you use it, which is the case with my room. Luckily, after 2 weeks the hay smell went away. I would like to grow her again, but probably won’t because I have a lot of other strains I want to try first, and the yield was small. Also, I popped 3 seeds to keep the best one for this journal, but all 3 had deformities. RECAP OF THE GROW: Target VPD for the week 1-2 seedling cycle was 0.7kPa. Target VPD for the week 3-4 veg cycle was 1.0kPa. Target VPD for the week 5 flower cycle is 1.3-1.4kPa. If you’ve been following, you know that I undershot how much living soil to use and ran out of nutrients earlier in the flower cycle. All the leaves yellowed and the buds stopped increasing in size. I was out of town too much to fix the situation right away, so I estimate I lost almost 3 weeks of bud growth which will hurt my yield substantially. Also, please note that it isn’t the fault of the KIS Organics living soil that I am using - it was my underestimation of the volume that I needed. I also shouldn’t have added so much perlite. I ran to the nearest hardware store and picked up “Espoma Organic Tomato!” liquid tomato plant food. Well… it worked! I got green back in my leaves and the buds started growing again. All in all, my yield will be hurt, but I’m glad to be back on track. GROW SETUP (For extended explanations of why I went these routes, see my Week 1 entry): GROWING MEDIUM: - Kis Organics: Water Only Soil with Biochar (50%) - Espoma: Organic Perlite (50%) KIS Organics Water Only Soil with Biochar is a living organic compost soil that would have been enough nutrients for the plant through the whole grow if I didn’t underestimate how much to use. TENT: - Gorilla Grow Tent: Lite Line, 4’x4’ WATERING SYSTEM: - Autopots: Smart Pot XL The Autopot is a bottom watering unit that uses a float system to turn the water flow on and off. I used it for the weeks when I was out of town, and it kept the plant alive. SUPPLEMENTS: - General Hydroponics: CaMg (just a little bit) - KIS Organics: Nutrient Pack (4th week top dressing) - Real Growers: Recharge (only if needed) - Growcentia: Mammoth P (1 week before & during flower) LIGHTING: - Kind LED: K5 XL1000 Every light cycle stage is/was programmed with a sunrise and sunset mode where the light intensity starts low and increases, peaks, and then gradually dims before shut off. During week 1 and 2 I ran with a lower intensity and bluer color, and the actual watt average during the light cycle was only at 238W. For week 3 and 4 I changed my light to autorun mode, which is a stronger intensity but still has more blue during the light cycle, and the average light wattage in this cycle is 451W. Autorun mode is the Kind LED K5 XL1000’s default factory setting for a standard sunrise to sunset veg cycle. When I changed to the flower cycle at week 5 I programmed for full spectrum and intensity, but still with a sunrise and sunset ramp up and down. The actual average wattage during the flower cycle is 525W. HUMIDITY CONTROL (I usually run dry): - Elechomes: UC5501 Ultrasonic Humidifier VENTILATION: - AC Infinity: Cloudline T6 CO2: - 2x Exhale: The XL MONITORING: - Pulse One: Temp, RH, and VPD monitor over WiFi - Hydrofarm: CO2 Monitor I really like the Pulse One monitor. It really helps me to keep everything dialed in at all times. The graphing feature is a really great addition because I can now see how bad the environment of the tent would have been without some fine tuning. I fimmed about a week before flipping the lights, and it seemed to recover nicely. I’m still on the fence about fimming at this time though, since I think the plant would have turned out about the same anyway. Please also check out my other journal, Holy Grail Kush, by DNA Genetics: https://growdiaries.com/diaries/29541-holy-agnostic-grail-kush-01
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MicrowGrow420
MicrowGrow420week 11
Wow looks great, we have been a busy 'gangsta' bee 😎...he he, got some nice grows under your belt. Green House Seeds can't go wrong. My first ever GH seed was from a shop / coffee house in amsterdam, i daringly smuggled it back to the uk in the 90's, had no idea what i was doing and ended up leaving it in my dads greenhouse, it got quite big until he figured out it was drugs and illegal big time and then it was gone. It's still illegal here big time..omg what am i doing 😱
MovingOn
MovingOn
@MicrowGrow420, yes, even though the plant started as a mutant, after a good cure the flavor has become top notch. It is very strong too, I can only use this strain for special occasions... special occasions like locking myself up for a day playing video games.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 9
Good to hear your automations on point dude👍. And regarding nutrient loss - wouldn’t really surprise me either if the soils been sucked dry of nutes. have you considered a compost tea? It can be added at any point in the growth cycle and is perfect for a little additional charge on weeks 4/5 of flower. Or is that what the mammoth microbes is for?
MovingOn
MovingOn
@TheBudWhisperer, yes, exactly. But what I mean is my mistake was not using a large enough container for the living soil. KIS Organics recommends a 7 gallon pot for a full run. So if I did a 50/50 split, then I would potentially need up to a 14 gallon pot, but I was majorly dumb and basically only used 2.5 gallons of living soil, which is probably not even half of what I needed. This being said, I assume that their 7gal recommendation does account for some drainage supplementing, but probably not up to a 50/50 split. So I'm actually guessing I needed at least a 10gal pot. Unfortunately, the Autopots' largest size of smart pot is 5gal, so I don't think I can use them on my next run if I want to get the full intended effect from my soil and amendment mixture. I am thinking that on my next run I will do a larger pot.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@MovingOn, well - yes and no IMO. I’m a huge fan of amendments because what it lacks in nutrients it makes up for with better drainage and a more porous root environment. That’s two huge benefits you don’t get with soil alone. Enough people on here run into all sorts of issues when the roots get choked out and water logged. Think it might’ve been a good choice if your partially automated👍
MovingOn
MovingOn
@TheBudWhisperer, I am considering some sort of supplement at least. My girlfriend has some nitrogen fertilizer, and I'm pretty sure that is the deficiency I am having. I should probably look into a compost tea as well. The Mammoth P is more phosphorous focused. I think I probably have 3 weeks at least to go, so I might need to supplement for at least a week and a half. Just been so busy lately it has unfortunately not been my primary focus as of late. When I think about it, it was pretty dumb of me to do a 50/50 mix of living soil and perlite in a 5 gallon container, because that only makes 2.5 gallons of living soil, argh, nowhere near enough for a full grow.
The_Bearded_Grower
The_Bearded_Growerweek 2
also i see you got a mutant as well lolol
MovingOn
MovingOn
@The_Bearded_Grower, not sure yet, but I won't kill them.
The_Bearded_Grower
The_Bearded_Grower
@MovingOn,giving away the other 2 ? mine grew out of the deformity
MovingOn
MovingOn
@The_Bearded_Grower, yeah, each one of the three had a mutation, but I am only going to keep the one with the least deformities.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 8
Lookn pimp buddy - how’s the manageability? Much less attention with the auto pots?
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@MovingOn, we’ll as long as there’s some value to it what more can u ask for right, end of the day it’s a living thing u gotta take care of. And f*%# yeah it can be a bitch of a chore! Lol
MovingOn
MovingOn
@TheBudWhisperer, thanks, bud! I had started only using the Autopots for days when I'm away. I just couldn't trust them enough to let the roots soak the whole time 24/7. I know that kind of defeats the purpose of my original intention, but alternating back and forth seems to be the safest route. The girls were doing so well I just couldn't risk it completely. But for what I am using them for, they are freaking awesome and takes some of the worry away.
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 1
Dude these are super cool. Interested to see how it turns out with the fim too. I’ve found this to be unreliable in terms of uniformity (when compared to topping) but if your lst is on point then the result (ie. Multiple colas and breaking apical dominance) is the same. Lookn forward to it bud!👍😎👊
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhisperer
@MovingOn, don’t be reluctant at all dude. I just fimmed my cheese grow and that plants an auto. With fimming you really don’t see much of a slowing in growth, if any at all. It’s wayyy less high stress than topping and you will get similar results just less uniform. I think you’ll be surprised and you might be able to shave down your veg. Time even further (assuming you’re only fimming once of course). There’s a few different ways u can do it too - all with varying levels of stress obviously.
MovingOn
MovingOn
@TheBudWhisperer, yeah, honestly I'm a little reluctant to do it, but I might only have 6 weeks of veg available and want to keep my plant shock to a minimum. I would rather do the manifold again and see how my current grows compare to my last two, but alas, summer is here and I won't be able to be able to put as much focus and time into it. If some personal and familial scheduling gets more solidified and open though, I might be able to do a manifold again (which is what I'm hoping for).
Abzotukiff
Abzotukiffweek 13
thank you for all this informations bro :) lovely diary
MovingOn
MovingOn
@Abzotukiff, aww thanks, buddy!
NekoSama
NekoSamaweek 13
Banged this outta the park! Been wanting to try 'The Church's, and you just made us order seeds! Love your work, keep it up!! Happy growin'! ✌️🌱🌲😎💨
MovingOn
MovingOn
@NekoSama, thank you! Happy to inspire.
green_leaf
green_leafweek 13
@MovingOn big congratulations bro! Do have baby-cuttings from the Church and would you grow her again?
MovingOn
MovingOn
@green_leaf, hey, buddy! I didn't do any cuttings, because the three phenotypes I got from the seed pack were not the greatest plants. The quality is wonderful, but I would probably need to get new seeds to find a phenotype as robust as yours. I am remembering this strain as one to try again maybe in the next few years, but for the time being I am going to experiment with some other strains first.
Welovephattrees420uk
Welovephattrees420ukweek 13
Alright dude I'm a outdoor grower by rights she'll easily give 10 oz on a full season.
MovingOn
MovingOn
@Welovephattrees420uk, excellent! I think that if I hadn't messed this one up so bad during flower, I probably could have had almost 3oz. Oh well, at least it was a learning experience.
ambition
ambitionweek 4
Good luck on the grow!
MovingOn
MovingOn
@ambition, thank you!
green_leaf
green_leafweek 3
@MovingOn, best luck and a heavy crop my friend! -> i will be watching... :D
MovingOn
MovingOn
@green_leaf, thank you!
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 2
Dude, the setup is intimidatingly high tech. You must be so proud of it👍😎
MovingOn
MovingOn
@TheBudWhisperer, thank you, dude. My goal is to get as close as I can to "set it and forget it". Well, that being said, it still takes a lot of attention, but when I turn those Autopots on after 7-10 days, that will be the true test of the system.
Johnnyronco
Johnnyroncoweek 13
Great looking buds!
Spaceman
Spacemanweek 13
nice grow bro 👍
WeedTheNorth
WeedTheNorthweek 13
Looking good brother, just what the doctor ordered lol🇨🇦😎🌴🙏👊
TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispererweek 10
Any time dude👍 Thanks for the shoutout👊
The_Bearded_Grower
The_Bearded_Growerweek 2
i see you got started on the church. you wont be disipointed with her