Apple Strudel / Forbidden Runtz

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2d ago
G4500 Light Emitting Diodes/320W
6 inch
Spider farmer
Soil
Paonia soil - The Bomb 50/50
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks 4
11 l
Pot Size
1.89 l
Watering
Start at 10 Week
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Germination
2mo ago
Garden-of-weeden 80 degrees 78% humidity Watered with 6.5PH water PPFD 170 18/5 light schedule
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Paper Towel
Germination Method
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Week 1. Vegetation
2mo ago
18 hrs
Light Schedule
27 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
No Smell
Smell
78 %
Air Humidity
26 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 l
Pot Size
35.56 cm
Lamp Distance
Garden-of-weeden PPFD 250 Day time temp 81 degrees Nighttime temp 77 degrees Humidity 77% Water PH 6.5 Watering every 2-3 days 30ml. Watered in growers choice recharge 1 time. Not a lot to report.
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Week 2. Vegetation
2mo ago
18 hrs
Light Schedule
27 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
No Smell
Smell
78 %
Air Humidity
26 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 l
Pot Size
35.56 cm
Lamp Distance
Garden-of-weeden PPFD 310 and increasing slowly every other day. Day time temp 82 degrees Nighttime temp 79 degrees Daytime humidity 73% Nighttime temp 70% Watering every 3 days, 6.5ph. Using growers choice recharge once every 7-ish days. Watering 1 liter per plant. No nutrients so far. No issues that I can see. I’m just trying to stay out of the tent and let it do its thing.
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Week 3. Vegetation
2mo ago
20.32 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
27 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
No Smell
Smell
68 %
Air Humidity
26 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 l
Pot Size
1.89 l
Watering Volume
30.48 cm
Lamp Distance
Garden-of-weeden PPFD 390 - light height 12 inches (G4500 Spider Farmer) VPD range 1.02-1.30 daytime VPD range 1.04-1.33 nighttime Day temp 81 degrees Night temp 78 degrees Day humidity 68% Night humidity 64% Forbidden Runtz and 1 Apple Strudel height 7 inches 2nd Apple Strudel 8 inches. Started alternating top and bottom watering. Bottom watering just filling the drip tray and letting it soak in for about 20 minutes. Next watering is done from the top. No nutrients thus far. Only 6.5 PH water and every 7-10 days top watering with growers choice recharge. They seem to be happy but I don’t know, what I don’t know. This is my 3rd grow and still very much learning.
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Week 4. Flowering
1mo ago
20.32 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
27 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
No Smell
Smell
67 %
Air Humidity
26 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 l
Pot Size
1.89 l
Watering Volume
30.48 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 2
Premium Gold All Purpose Fertilizer 4-4-4 - Dr. Earth
Premium Gold All Purpose Fertilizer 4-4-4
2.6 mll
Flower Girl Bud & Bloom Booster 3-9-4 - Dr. Earth
Flower Girl Bud & Bloom Booster 3-9-4
2.6 mll
Garden-of-weeden Did the first feeding this week using Dr. Earth dry fertilizer. Below is what each 3 gal pot received. 2 TBSP of 4-4-4 per plant (all purpose) 2 TBSP of 3-9-4 (flower girl bud and bloom) 4 heaping TBSP of earth worm castings Also put in bud clips to help spread things out and open it up a little. After putting in the bud clips, I lowered the VPD to 1.0 for a day or two in hopes it helped recover and reduce stress. All three seem to be in pretty good shape. All look to be in Pre-flower and starting to throw pistols. Watering about every 3 days or when fabric pots feel light. Watering about half gallon at this point. Still using recharge about every 7-10 days. PPFD is 489 Light distance is 12 inches from tallest plant Daytime temp / nighttime 81/78 Day humidity / night humidity 67%/65% 6.5 PH tap water Day VPD 1.02 - 1.39 Night VPD 1.1 - 1.36
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Used techniques
LST
Technique
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Week 5. Flowering
1mo ago
43.18 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
27 °C
Day Air Temp
6.5
pH
Weak
Smell
65 %
Air Humidity
26 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 l
Pot Size
1.89 l
Watering Volume
30.48 cm
Lamp Distance
Garden-of-weeden Continuing with bud clips trying to keep the canopy even. Still alternating top/bottom watering with 6.5ph tap water. Using growers choice recharge every 7-10 days. Really easy going so far. No issues that I see. Day/night temps 81/78 degrees Day/night humidity 65/64 PPFD 543 12 inch light distance When I top water, I’m using half gallon per plant. Watering about every 3 days or when the pot feels very light. Starting to get a faint smell. I believe the forbidden Runtz is the smelly one. Can’t really smell the Apple strudel yet.
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Grow Questions
Garden-of-weeden
Garden-of-weedenstarted grow question 1mo ago
My soil is Paonia Soil - the bomb 50/50. It’s half coco peat and half sphagnum peat. The only thing I added was perlite. Using dr earth 4-4-4 and 3-9-4. Is 6.5 ph correct or should it be lower? I have no issues or deficiencies, but I’m 2nd guessing myself. New grower. THX
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squalinoanswered grow question 1mo ago
Hi For your mix, 6.5 is good. ​By staying between 6.2 and 6.5, you ensure the survival of the microbes necessary to break down your powder fertilizers (4-4-4 and 3-9-4). ​ visually ​Your plants are magnificent. ​The green is uniform, no burnt ends, and the structure is solid. ​The golden rule: “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” Your plant visually confirms to you that your pH of 6.5 suits it perfectly. ​Since you are using dry organic fertilizers (Dry Amendments), remember that: Humidity is key: Unlike pure coconut which can be left to dry a little more, your soil must remain slightly moist so that the bacteria continue to "eat" the fertilizer. ​These fertilizers take approximately 1 to 2 weeks before they are available to the plant. ​ Stop doubting, you have found the “sweet spot” for this hybrid blend. Continues to 6.5. Have a good evening
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Week 6. Flowering
1mo ago
55.88 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
27 °C
Day Air Temp
6.3
pH
Weak
Smell
65 %
Air Humidity
26 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 l
Pot Size
1.89 l
Watering Volume
30.48 cm
Lamp Distance
Garden-of-weeden We’re day 42-ish on this journey. This last week I was lowering ph of water from 6.5 to somewhere between 6.2-6.3 ph based on last weeks feedback to my ph question. This morning I watered and tested run off for the first time. Run off was 7.24ph. Not sure what todo with that information. I suppose this next week I will further lower ph of watering to 6.0 - 6.1? Still very little issues with the grow. May have slight tip burn on some of the plants and leaves. I guess this tracks, as I fed for the first time 14 days ago. I either fed too much, too early (week 4), or a combination of both? I’m finding it challenging to figure out exactly what the correct inputs should be. Seems to be a lot of fuck around and find out….. Day/iight temp - 80/78 degrees Day/night humidity- 63/60% Largest plant is now 22 inches tall. PPFFD 635 Light distance - 12 inches 18/6 light schedule Still using the spider farmer G4500 light. This week was just water and used recharge 1 time. Watering about a half gallon per plant every 2-3 days. I’m finding this peat soil prefers to be wetter than something like Fox farms ocean forest.
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Grow Questions
Garden-of-weeden
Garden-of-weedenstarted grow question 1mo ago
I have a high p.h run off (7.24). I do not want to flush with a high volume of water. Is the correct action to just continue to lower ph of watering to 6-6.1-ish? See latest grow dairy updated earlier today. Thank you!
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Ultraviolet_answered grow question 1mo ago
Garden-of-weeden, Hi dude! I had to run earlier, so I didn't get a chance to mention I noticed you are using organic amendments, which I love, but it makes it more critical you get the pH back to where it needs to be; if the pH drifts from 6.3-6.7 anyone telling you to deviate from that range should do some homework , hydrogen will no longer be available to cycle the medium's Cation exchange capacity, organic rhizosphere will require much higher levels of oxygen within a medium to be efficient compared to synthetic, and if oxygen becomes scarce for any reason, bad things happen, slowly and creepingly, but by the time you notice 5 deficiency looking symptoms will hit at once, and some dufus will tell you to add cal mag to make it worse. You can have the best soil in the world with optimal porosity, but understand this one thing above all: Oxygen travels 10,000 times slower in soil than air. Oxygen travels 320,000 times slower in soil saturated(watered) above a point. Oxygen lockout occurs. No matter even if it's there its too slow to keep up metabolically. Organic matter will deposit increased levels of CO2 into the soil, around 40% of all the carbon your plant captures is exuded into the soil. The microorganisms chew that shit up and fill the soil with carbon dioxide, which will slowly increase moisture retention and eventually be the reason why the soil becomes infertile. Sync your daytime VPD, lock it in, 85F 70RH% or whatever suits you, but at night, you hold that exhaust fan and link it to the ambient RH% at the canopy. Keep it 45-55% RH ambient. This replicates high and low pressure fronts in nature, essentially performing a type of barometric pumping of the soil. (critical for organics, increased demand for oxy) At night, the plant performs cellular respiration, constantly adding water to the air (make sure you always have a very gentle airflow (24/7) on the leaves themselves to prevent moisture building on the underside of leaves. There is no such thing as too much water, only water that sits in the same place for too long. By linking your RH% at night to exhaust, this creates a negative pressure (more air going out than comes in). Negative pressure is required in order to inject oxygen into the soil and CO2 and N2 out of the soil. (critical for organics, extra oxygen requirements) Water in the mornings, perfect soil moisture levels by night, repeat every morning or as needed, but never water right before lights out. Once you remove all the water from a plant, the dry matter that's left consists of 95-97% Carbon, Oxygen, and Hydrogen. NPK & all the rest is 3-5% of that dry matter. As pH shifts closer to 7+, the rate of nitrification (the rate of organic breakdown of nitrogen) increases dramatically. The rate is 3x - 4x faster above pH 7 than at pH 6. pH drifting above 6.7 prevents nutrient cycling within the medium, essentially making the plant stuck with what "EC" it has. But the rate of nitrification breakdown is exceeding the rate at which it's being used up by the plant. As nitrogen breakdown exceeds plant uptake, nitrogen builds up, and high pH prevents other essential nutrients from being balanced. The plant becomes “stuck” with high ammonium or nitrate levels in the medium, but the lack of balanced uptake causes nutrient deficiencies, resulting in a high-EC, high-pH, and nutrient-deficient scenario. Past week 4 of flower, so I can't advise you to add sulfur (add elemental sulfur 1 week prior to flip). Add carbon in the form of molasses, best is powdered, blackstrap if you can't get powdered, warm water, make sure properly dissolved fully, no globs, 1 teaspoon in 1 gallon moving forward, will gobble up nitrogen if there is any excess sitting around, using up the N should whip back the pH to where it should be. Carbon sugars are the counter to too much nitrogen. Nitrogen is arguably the most critical nutrient for plant growers to master due to its foundational role in nearly every metabolic process, enzyme, and amino acid. Understanding its nuances is essential because it is a "leaky" system, often requiring sophisticated management to prevent losses, especially when attempting organic delivery. Generally speaking, so long as you keep oxygen going in, CO2 going out. It's very difficult to mess with an organic pH, as soon as oxygen goes its tits up. pH goes up (generally too much N released too fast) Increase demand for growth. Or add carbon to chew up nitrogen (if it's a cause of ph skew) Or lime up if pH drifts too low. Good luck and TOKE ON BRO!
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Week 7. Flowering
22d ago
58.42 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
26 °C
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
Weak
Smell
59 %
Air Humidity
24 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 l
Pot Size
1.89 l
Watering Volume
30.48 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Flower Girl Bud & Bloom Booster 3-9-4 - Dr. Earth
Flower Girl Bud & Bloom Booster 3-9-4
11.72 mll
Garden-of-weeden Day/night temp 79/75 Day/night humidity 59/50 PPFD 675 12 inch light distance Fed last on 5-19-26 3 TBSP dr Earth flower girl (3-9-4) per plant with 3 TBSP worm castings My original plan was to feed every 4 weeks. Because they look a little hungry, I fed about a week early. Still using recharge every 7-ish days. Lowered PH of water to 6.0-6.1 Plants showing nitrogen deficiency.. No clue if they are under fed or PH issue? One of the Apple Strudel is showing purple buds. One isn’t. I’m not sure of the significance of purple buds, but pretty cool either way.
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Week 8. Flowering
15d ago
60.96 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
27 °C
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
Normal
Smell
59 %
Air Humidity
24 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 l
Pot Size
1.89 l
Watering Volume
30.48 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 3
Grow Big - Fox Farm
Grow Big
3.963 mll
Big Bloom - Fox Farm
Big Bloom
0.528 mll
Tiger Bloom - Fox Farm
Tiger Bloom
0.528 mll
Garden-of-weeden Day/night temp 82/75 Day/night humidity 59/52 PPFD 710 18/6 light schedule 12 inch light distance 2 of the 3 plants look underfed and I added fox farms grow big, big bloom and tiger bloom in very small doses in a attempt to green them up a little. Not sure how else to quickly fix the issue with just dry amendments. I understand the Fox Farms isn’t organic and I now how a hybrid grow but I don’t know how to fix the hungry plants quickly. This is now a fuck around and find out style grow. Still watering at 6.0-6.2 PH. Roughly half gallon per plant. Still using recharge every 7-ish days. In the pictures the forbidden Runtz is the middle plant, Apple strudel are the right and left plants.
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Week 9. Flowering
8d ago
63.5 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
Normal
Smell
59 %
Air Humidity
22 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 l
Pot Size
1.89 l
Watering Volume
30.48 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 1
Big Bloom - Fox Farm
Big Bloom
3.963 mll
Garden-of-weeden Plants left to right…. Forbidden Runtz, Apple Strudel, Apple Strudel Day/night temp 81/73 Day/night humidity 59/51 PPFD 650 12 inch light distance. Temperatures in my area getting into the high 90’s and temps in tent have been rising. Been able to keep the temperature in tent at or below 85 degrees. Starting to see amber on the far right Apple Strudel on the leaves, not on the buds yet. I have a vacation planned in 30 days, so I will cut all plants in about 2.5 weeks. It’s unfortunate but I don’t have a way to water. So we’ll see how it shakes out. Very different outcome between the two Apple Strudel’s. One is very green and healthy, the other is very colorful and looks like it’s maturing faster and has either a lockout issue or nutrient deficiency. All plants are fed and watered the same way, so I don’t know…….
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Week 10. Flowering
2d ago
63.5 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
Normal
Smell
59 %
Air Humidity
22 °C
Night Air Temp
11.36 l
Pot Size
1.89 l
Watering Volume
30.48 cm
Lamp Distance
Garden-of-weeden Pretty uneventful week. Plants are doing their thing. I’m done feeding and adding any kind of nutrients for the remainder of the grow. Will be cutting down 1 Apple strudel this week, it’s the plant on the far right with the red/purple coloring on the leaves. Trichomes are cloudy with amber showing up in sugar leaves. I will cut the other two down around June 20th-ish. Left to right in pictures Forbidden Runtz- Apple strudel - Apple strudel Day/night temp 84/70 Day/night humidity 48/45 PPFD 750
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TheDutchWizzards
TheDutchWizzards commentedweek 22mo ago
Looking good so far brother good luck 🌱
GhostTerpZ
GhostTerpZ commentedweek 22mo ago
Looking really good
DutchFarmer
DutchFarmer commentedweek 02mo ago
💚 Amazing progress! Everything is dialed in perfectly 👌🔥 Respect! I also document my grows on YouTube would really appreciate the support and love 💚📺🌱
Ultraviolet_
Ultraviolet_ commentedweek 41mo ago
Drop humidity to 50-55% at nights if you let it sit high over night after night you will encounter problems over time. Vpd 10x less effective at night as there is no transpiration. High rh will stifle oxidative phosphorylation more than one imagines.
Garden-of-weeden
Garden-of-weeden commented1mo ago
@Ultraviolet_, my night time humidity has been adjusted per your recommendation..Thank You
Ultraviolet_
Ultraviolet_ commentedweek 41mo ago
Very impressive for a new grower job well done so far
DrGruen
DrGruen commentedweek 51mo ago
great ones 💪
UnorthadoxDude
UnorthadoxDude commentedweek 22mo ago
So far so good! Thank you for running this diary and best of luck with the rest of your grow!
Fast_Buds
Fast_Buds
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Hi there, thank you for running this diary. We look forward to your updates. Happy growing 🌱🌱 & Good luck 😃
Krazy_K_Buds
Krazy_K_Buds commentedweek 623d ago
Looking good growmie!!! I got some @fastbuds mystery seeds going I can't wait to see what they become !
cangrowz
cangrowz commentedweek 51mo ago
Looking Good 💚🌱😍
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