Pre-1970 Chitral Landrace IBL

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Pre-1970 Chitral Landrace
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Bosch
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Terra Preta
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1 liters
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Start at 2 Week
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17d ago
Nutrients 1
H2O
0.264 mll
The_7_Club Imbibition of 5 seeds. 1 more added one day later.
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The_7_Club
The_7_Clubstarted grow question 17d ago
6 regular seeds (natural reproduction) were started. Anyone want to guess how many will survive? Anyone want to guess how many will be male and how many female? First to get both answers right.... 😉 Journal: growdiaries.com/diaries/326499-grow-journal-by-the-7-club
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 18d ago
5 will pop. 1 Male 2 Females 2 Hermies
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Ratlesnk
Ratlesnkanswered grow question 18d ago
4 and 4 male
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LPinto
LPintoanswered grow question 18d ago
Boa tarde, 5 germinadas e 2 fêmeas...
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Week 1. Vegetation
11d ago
16 hrs
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23 °C
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6.0
pH
70 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
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0.5 liters
Pot Size
30 cm
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The_7_Club Seedlings now. Transplanted to their first containers. These will be fast moving plants.
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The_7_Club
The_7_Clubstarted grow question 11d ago
How little things actually change.
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MindFlowers68
MindFlowers68answered grow question 10d ago
I know in some cultures they stuff giant colas into a pipe and smoke it over a fire. Imagine how much resin you'd be inhaling. I think i wanna try it now. I kind of forgot about it. But now i have enough weed i could do it. maybe i could make a fire with the stalks from my plants i just harvested so its not asssss harsh lol cant be too goo for ya.. theirs a little bamboo patch not too far away too. It was one of our smoke spots lol
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UDUDUDUDU
UDUDUDUDUanswered grow question 11d ago
that iz a little to much for me. It would make me feel like im bjing da plant. Very neat party trick though, how about ingesting da smoke ? eh ?
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Green_Claws
Green_Clawsanswered grow question 11d ago
smoking pck on kush mountain with the mouth water bong in AD1320.. I bet there was cave men riding backs of dinosaurs with a joint.1million%
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The_7_Club
The_7_Clubstarted grow question 10d ago
Know any PCK (Pakistani Chitral Kush) fans or HHC's (Hardcore Hashplant Connoisseurs)? Purple Cannabis lovers? Tag them so they can follow along on the documentation, join the grow of my pre-1970 PCK IBL grow! 💣
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Green_Claws
Green_Clawsanswered grow question 9d ago
pck still grows up there. no contamination. Ace seeds is your best bet
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JUNGLE_B4RNS
JUNGLE_B4RNSanswered grow question 10d ago
Yep, I have grown a Durgan Chitral from the Underground Seeds Collective. The result was marvelous. growdiaries.com/diaries/17328-usc-elite-genetic
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Week 2. Vegetation
16h ago
16 hrs
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23 °C
Day Air Temp
6.0
pH
6 %
Air Humidity
20 °C
Night Air Temp
0.5 liters
Pot Size
30 cm
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The_7_Club Transplanted to larger fabric grow pots. Stems and underside of leaf are purple, already producing anthocyanins at this early stage.
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The_7_Club
The_7_Clubstarted grow question 16h ago
The recent GD blog post from skips over the real history of purple cannabis. It treats a Granddaddy Purple from 2003 in California like it invented the whole thing, while ignoring that purple weed has been around for centuries...in places like the Chitral valleys of Pakistan.
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Altitonans_Fulmen
Altitonans_Fulmenanswered grow question 1d ago
Never go max-tard. "Never go max-tard" appears to be a variation or typo of the famous "Never go full retard" advice from the 2008 comedy movie Tropic Thunder. The Advice: It warns actors against playing intellectually disabled characters in an over-the-top, cartoonish way because those performances rarely win awards or critical acclaim.
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AsNoriu
AsNoriuanswered grow question 1d ago
Education is good, but i doubt that people are offended by some myth, bro science or clout chasers ;))) Enjoy your grow journey !
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Green_Claws
Green_Clawsanswered grow question 1d ago
It's a true natural purple that makes the best hash.beautiful plant.. GL..
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The_7_Club
The_7_Clubstarted grow question 5h ago
Genetics play the largest role in purple color expression. The anthocyanin production on 2 week old plants. Stems and undersides of the are infused with beautiful purple coloration. Tops of the leaves remain green. Knowing is better than abstract knowledge/superstition. 🤫
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Altitonans_Fulmen
Altitonans_Fulmenanswered grow question 1d ago
50% genetics 50% environment. Chlorophyll is made for electron capture as its primary purpose, Anthocyanin is made for protection as its primary purpose and is not capable of photosynthesis. Genetics dictate whether a plant can produce these pigments; the environment triggers how much it actually makes. Linalool and anthocyanin share a lot of the same master transcription pathways. It's not about purple; it's about the combination of Linalool and Myrcene and an eclectic combo with a strong entourage effect, enjoyed primarily for its strong ability to medicate pain and still keep the mind sharp. No idea why you are so obsessed with purple :) It's beautiful, but it's never been about just color. The obsession with "purple" as an isolated aesthetic entirely misses the point of secondary metabolism, and the idea of static, immutable plant genetics is an outdated, copy-paste illusion. The specific pattern of green leaf-tops with purple stems and undersides on a 2-week-old plant is genetic programming mapping perfectly to environmental physics. You are correct that genetics dictate this potential. Geographical location heavily dictates genetic expression, which in turn influences and interacts with soil composition and its nutritional properties. This, in conjunction with the location's specific weather and unique environmental conditions, is what truly drives gene expression. Unless a cultivar is grown under the exact same conditions across the board, there is no way its genetic heritage will remain identical. Each generation grown in a different meteorological and geographical location will ultimately alter its genetic expression. The idea that a "magic seed" can bring back long-lost genetics and behave exactly as it did in the past is ridiculous; the precise environmental conditions of years ago simply no longer exist. To pretend otherwise relies on an outdated, unchecked version of how "genetics" actually works that is far overdue for a rethink. Genetics are not completely predetermined. A seed carries a specific genetic code (genotype), but the physical expression of that code (phenotype)—such as the plant's flavor, smell, size, and nutritional value—is heavily dictated by its surroundings. The exact same seed grown in two different regions will yield entirely different results. The unique mineral composition, microbial life, and fungal networks of a specific geographic location, combined with local weather patterns and UV levels, act as a custom recipe. This recipe directly influences how the plant develops its chemical and nutritional properties. Environmental factors act as "switches" that turn specific genes on or off without altering the underlying DNA sequence. These changes in gene expression can sometimes be passed down to the next generation, meaning the plant actively adapts to its new home in real-time. When a cultivar is grown in a new meteorological location, each subsequent generation undergoes rapid localized adaptation. The plant naturally favors traits that help it survive that specific environment, shifting away from its original ancestral state within just a few generations. Because the precise atmospheric conditions, soil biology, and climate of thousands of years ago no longer exist, an ancient seed grown today will inevitably express itself differently. Modern agriculture increasingly recognizes that we cannot separate a plant's genetic heritage from the unique environment in which it is grown. Growing anything in Dave Smith's basement with municipal water and nitrogen derived from the Haber-Bosch process, with absolutely no idea how to sink nitrogen correctly, barely scratches the surface of optimizing the 9 cardinal rules of plant growth; that guy ain't growing anything with any expression anyone hasn't smoked a 1000 times before. A seed is not a guaranteed blueprint; it is a library of possibilities. The environment acts as the librarian, choosing which books to open. The belief that a clone or seed will express identical cannabinoids, terpenes, and colors in a living soil outdoor canopy versus a sterile indoor rockwool setup completely ignores how secondary metabolites are produced. Knowing is better than abstract knowledge/superstition. Let's spell it together: R.H.I.Z.O.P.H.A.G.Y C.Y.C.L.E Without the rhizophagy cycle, the plant never goes to war. It never learns to defend itself. You get a bloated, water-weight plant loaded with free-floating, un-sunk nitrogen—the ultimate recipe for harsh-burning, generic flower that tastes exactly like everything else on the commercial shelf. Microbial Atrophy No Ethylene, No Hairs Missing Systemic Immune Response (SAR) Superoxide and oxidative stress are the direct triggers for terpene synthesis. NO HABLO FUCK-TARDO When you bypass rhizophagy, you castrate the plant's secondary metabolism. It is a direct biological cascade: no microbial oxidation = no cellular panic = no terpenes. Knowing is better than abstract knowledge/superstition. I might be a complete asshole, but I'm an honest asshole. No amount of genetics changes what a lifetime of environment has forged. THE WAR MATTERS BROTHER! Terpenes, flavonoids, and cannabinoids are secondary metabolites. The plant does not make them for growth; it makes them for defense.
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The_7_Club
The_7_Club commentedweek 013d ago
Yeah! 6 of 6 above ground! All 6 are sprouted. Time to in increase the light before they get too stretched out. MalumProhibitum could be the winner! Whoo hoo! @TruTraTri @Argos @LPinto @AsNoriu @Wojkers @MalumProhibitum @Organoman @thcishcrud @Ratle
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LPinto
LPinto commented13d ago
@The_7_Club, ainda bem que gerinanram todas... so falta saber quantoas machos e femeas... mas vai demorar...
The_7_Club
The_7_Club commented13d ago
@LPinto, Right. Perhaps 3 weeks or so. As long as there is a mix of males and females I will be happy! 👍🏻
The_7_Club
The_7_Club commentedweek 18d ago
Hey everyone, The oldest Chitral cannabis bred line I have access to was collected before 1970. It carries verifiable records of the acquisition of pure unhybridized seeds from the regions famous landrace. These display the cold resistant traits of the 1500 meter and higher altitude of upper Chitral. The accounts cover the collection itself including the logistics of getting them out of Pakistan and their careful preservation in a historical record. Later seed banks such as Cannabiogen/ACE/ whos unverifiable story begins in the 1990s and those that followed simply commercialized and mass marketed lines from the same valley. Their marketing claims do not rewrite or negate the factual timeline of these early collections of original material decades prior. The pre-1970 sample collection stands as authentic primary evidence of Western acquisition of pure Chitrali cannabis before modern hybridization altered the valley’s agricultural landscape. These genetics can be seen as the last pure examples possible to be collected. Documented and verifiable collections before this date are unknown to me and I have found no evidence that any exist. This is not another pack of the usual claimed PCK that has been worked and reworked since the nineties. This is material from a time when the plants still carried the full character of that high mountain region before outside genetics began to change everything. Holding seeds like these means holding something that almost slipped away completely. Most people will never even know this line existed in this form let alone get the chance to grow it out and see what the old pure expression actually looked and smelled like. I keep the paperwork, messages, the breeders packaging, postal packaging, the recorded calls to retain the intact chain of custody . The seed morphology that matches the regional data. Chain of custody matters if the goal is real preservation rather than just another story. I will grow this line out in full view and post the progressive updates the males the females and a proper smoke report. The plants themselves will show what they are. Anyone who understands how rare true old world material has become will recognize why this feels different. These are not seeds you find every day and they are not meant for casual curiosity. They represent a direct link to a moment in time that closed long ago. Watching them grow is a chance to reconnect with something that was nearly lost and to see for yourself why authenticity still matters.
Argos
Argos commentedweek 015d ago
ha jól voltak tárolva akár mind kipattanhat, ez esetben 60 - 40% hím - nőstény arány.. tippelek, mind kikel, és 5 fiú, 1 lány.
The_7_Club
The_7_Club commented13d ago
@Argos, You may be right! In a few weeks we will know. 👏
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The_7_Club commentedweek 010d ago
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