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Triangle Kush x M10
Fission 300W Light Emitting Diodes/250W
Custom
Fission 300W Fluorescent/400W
Custom
Indoor
Room Type
LST
weeks Technique
ScrOG
weeks Technique
Topping
weeks Technique
Soil
Grow medium
19 L
Pot Size
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Week 1. Vegetation
6 years ago
18 hrs
28 °C
6.2
Weak
58 %
23 °C
8 L
45.72 cm
1st Grow: Week 1 self-critique based on what I've learned so far: Transplanted too soon. These plants could still be in solo cups. Also, clearly overwatered.
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Week 2. Vegetation
6 years ago
17.78 cm
18 hrs
28 °C
6.2
Weak
58 %
23 °C
8 L
45.72 cm
1st Grow: Week 2 self-critique based on what I've learned so far: Still overwatered. Probably should have started training about now to get them bushier later.
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Week 3. Vegetation
6 years ago
25.4 cm
18 hrs
28 °C
6.2
Weak
58 %
23 °C
8 L
45.72 cm
1st Grow: Week 3 self-critique based on what I've learned so far: The usual - overwatered. LST about a week late, but working well.
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Week 4. Vegetation
6 years ago
35.56 cm
18 hrs
28 °C
6.2
Weak
58 %
23 °C
19 L
45.72 cm
1st Grow: Week 4 self-critique based on what I've learned so far: Once again, overwatered, and made the same transplant mistake into the 5 gals: Too soon.
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Week 5. Vegetation
6 years ago
40.64 cm
18 hrs
28 °C
6.2
Weak
58 %
23 °C
19 L
45.72 cm
1st Grow: Week 5 self-critique based on what I've learned so far: Still overwatering, too much pot for the plant. LST has made the plants fill out the space nicely though.
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Week 6. Vegetation
6 years ago
45.72 cm
18 hrs
28 °C
6.2
Weak
58 %
23 °C
19 L
45.72 cm
750 PPM
Before: still in the 2x4 tent, then pissed off plants after the move into the sealed room. Installed light rail light mover till another light can be added next grow. 1st Grow: Week 6 self-critique based on what I've learned so far: Overwatering, and now they need more trimming and training to make sure the lower branches have a chance to catch up to canopy when I scrog later. I'll pay for this later with weaker lower branches that won't reach up into the canopy well enough.
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Week 7. Vegetation
6 years ago
60.96 cm
18 hrs
28 °C
6.2
Weak
58 %
23 °C
19 L
45.72 cm
750 PPM
1st Grow: Week 7 self-critique based on what I've learned so far: Why did I wait till week 7 to send in the sex testing? Dumb move. Wasted 6 weeks maintaining a plant I had to later murder.
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Week 8. Vegetation
6 years ago
71.12 cm
18 hrs
28 °C
6.2
Weak
58 %
23 °C
19 L
45.72 cm
750 PPM
Sex testing returned with only one male. Killed him - pic shows the roots out of the air pot, so I at least have an idea of what the roots on the others look like. 1st Grow: Week 8 self-critique based on what I've learned so far: Letting them veg too long, overwatering. Scrogging too late, not keeping up with training to give weaker branches a better shot.
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Week 9. Vegetation
6 years ago
76.2 cm
18 hrs
28 °C
6.2
Weak
58 %
23 °C
19 L
45.72 cm
750 PPM
Built PVC scrog and bent and abused the girls under it. They're pissed on 7/11. A bit happier a few days later. 1st Grow: Week 9 self-critique based on what I've learned so far: Should have cleaned up lower branches better, There's a decent amount there that won't amount to anything. Since I had to kill off one plant, the scrog will never fill out, so I had to set them up as seen here, with the bushiest plant in the middle. Broke a couple tops off forcing them under the scrog because I waited too long to do it. Only using an 8-bulb T5, so ultimately it won't be enough light for an 7x4 scrog to get respectable yield. Looking into acquiring a better light while flowering.
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Week 10. Flowering
6 years ago
91.44 cm
12 hrs
28 °C
6.2
Normal
45 %
24 °C
19 L
45.72 cm
800 PPM
1st Grow: Week 1 Flower self-critique based on what I've learned so far: I've gotten better at determining when to water by bucket weight, but now that it's in a scrog, my most reliable watering indicator isn't as reliable obviously due to the net. Learning in public!! Still working with the 8-bulb T5 as it's all I have at the moment. Will switch to an HLG 550 V2 R-Spec as soon as funding allows. Hoping it will energize my flowering stage if I get it in there early enough.
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Week 11. Flowering
6 years ago
101.6 cm
12 hrs
29 °C
6.2
Normal
55 %
26 °C
19 L
4 L
60.96 cm
1000 PPM
Nutrients 3
Tiger Bloom - Fox Farm
Tiger Bloom 0.264 mll
Cal-Mag Plus  - Botanicare
Cal-Mag Plus 1.321 mll
Recharge - Real Growers
Recharge 0.651 mll
7/29 New HLG 550 V2 RSpec added. At the end of the first 12-hour lights on period they looked way more tired than usual at that point under the old T5. I'm guessing that's normal given the drastically increased light intensity. I did turn the light down to about 60% to give them a chance to adjust to it. Started it at 24" height per HLG suggestion. Bumped Co2 up to 1000 PPM. 8/1 Still have light at 60%, Will turn it up 10% at a time every couple of days to see how they react in the coming week. Plants have been in these 5g pots since 5/29 with 70/30 mix of Fox Farms Ocean Forest and perlite, so 8 full weeks. Fed very little outside of Cal-Mag (5ml per/g) and vastly reduced (20% of FF suggested, every 2nd or 3rd watering) grow big and big bloom in veg, and a bit of tiger bloom since the switch to flower, since OF is considered a "hot" soil, But now that I'm two months in on this soil mix, I'm having trouble understanding how much nutrients are left in the soil, and how that affects how much I should be feeding now. Suggestions welcome!! Don't want to bomb them with nutes now that they are in flower, but also don't want to starve them when they need it most. Help! Watering approximately every 4 days or so, since that's when the buckets feel pretty light, and is about one day short of where one of the plants wilted (it was nearly bone dry!) from lack of water a couple of weeks ago, so that seems to be the sweet spot for now at this stage.
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Week 12. Flowering
6 years ago
127 cm
12 hrs
29 °C
6.2
Normal
50 %
26 °C
19 L
4 L
60.96 cm
1000 PPM
Nutrients 3
Tiger Bloom - Fox Farm
Tiger Bloom 0.264 mll
Cal-Mag Plus  - Botanicare
Cal-Mag Plus 1.321 mll
Recharge - Real Growers
Recharge 0.651 mll
-Discovered some initial signs of thrip damage, checked a leaf under a scope and did see a couple larvae. As a result, did a major leaf strip (as you can tell from the first overhead picture to the second one) and sprayed with Captain Jack's Dead Bug. Going to order some green lacewings in case the spray and root drench didn't finish the job. Don't really want to spray anything else the rest of flower if I can avoid it. Bud development seems to be moving along, although slowly. I have been hesitant to feed much because of the Ocean Forest soil I'm using, but I'm going to give a heavier than usual feed next time and see how they react. I've kept it very light up to this point, and they now have 1000ppm of Co2 and way more intense light, so I'm assuming they can use the extra food. Just a bit of info on the room setup itself. The canopy space is 4x7'ish. The light is an HLG 550 V2 Rspec on a light rail light mover. Co2 being added via tank with fuzzy logic controller, and a dehumidifier keeping the room in the low to mid 50's. Temps are staying around mid-80's during lights on, and closer 78-80 lights off. UPDATE 8/11 - End of Week 3: So it looks like I screwed up big time! On 8/5 I did the root drench portion of the Capt Jack's Dead Bug treatment, then the spray treatment on 8/6. I had the bright idea that since I'd been fighting a mag def problem for a while, and that Cal-Mag says it can be applied as a foliar feed, that I'd add it to the bug treatment and spray both together. Cal-Mag was also in the root drench at Botanicare's suggested concentration (FOR FOLIAR) of 10ml per gallon. So I both root drenched AND sprayed bug stuff + Cal-Mag at that concentration (I had mixed all of it in one batch like an idiot!) within a day of each other. Plants did NOT like that as you can see from the pictures. Leaves overall got pale, and MANY burned tips and burn spots on the leaves. I'm not sure if this is the end of these plants altogether, or if they can ride this out, but I'm quite sure that I've done permanent damage. For now, I'm just going to continue to water with straight RO water (they got fed bloom nutrients last week) for a few waterings and see if that helps them any. If it looks bad, I'll just cut them down. The biggest mistake I've made so far with this grow was letting them veg way too long. I was holding out for a better flowering light since I didn't have a suitable one when they were ready to switch, so I just waited. Now they are tall enough that they are going to finish too close to my light (HLG suggests minimum of 24" in flower, and the tallest buds are already inside that range), and since this most recent screwup, I'm positive whatever I get will be crap anyway. The other issue is the clones I took will be in the same position while these are still finishing - plants ready to flower but the flower room is occupied. I suppose I could just start them flowering two or three weeks before these finish under the 8-bulb T5 they under right now, then put them under the flower light after I harvest these. That seems a rather bad option, because then instead of one gimpy crop, I'd be starting my second one under less than ideal conditions as well, when I could just accept the loss on the first and give the second a way better chance. What a mess! Good lessons being learned though. Biggest lesson this week was DON'T TRY TO DO TOO MUCH! Fix one thing, then worry about Cal-Mag or whatever else is going on. As much as this is a bummer, I'm glad to be going through this because it'll all just make me better going forward.
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Week 13. Flowering
6 years ago
127 cm
12 hrs
32 °C
6.2
Normal
45 %
28 °C
19 L
4 L
50.8 cm
1000 PPM
Nutrients 3
Tiger Bloom - Fox Farm
Tiger Bloom 1.321 mll
Mammoth P - Mammoth Microbes
Mammoth P 0.6 mll
Recharge - Real Growers
Recharge 0.651 mll
Riding this grow out despite the disappointing damage done in W3F. I figure there's still more I can learn from finishing the next 4 weeks and going through a harvest, despite the troubles. There is still significant leaf damage from the spraying incident, newer growth looks better, but the middle plant seems to have taken it harder than the rest. Her leaves are more faded than the others as you can see from the overhead shots. She might just need more than the others because she's the one who needs water at least 12-24 hours before the other 4 do. Room is getting very hot during during the day, low 90's is not uncommon. I'm in SoCal, so the heat has been intense and the dual hose AC I'm using just can't keep up, and the room is sealed, so I can't even cool it by venting at night. Will upgrade the AC once I get my electrical panel upgraded and go with a mini split with good horsepower.
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Week 14. Flowering
6 years ago
127 cm
12 hrs
32 °C
6.2
Normal
45 %
28 °C
19 L
4 L
50.8 cm
1000 PPM
Nutrients 3
Tiger Bloom - Fox Farm
Tiger Bloom 1.321 mll
Mammoth P - Mammoth Microbes
Mammoth P 0.6 mll
Recharge - Real Growers
Recharge 0.651 mll
Continuing to see the lightening edges of the leaves, which started occurring after the heavy spraying in W2F. Not sure what this is or if there's any way to recover from it. Buds are still developing, albeit rather slowly. One of the phenos (back left corner) has very tiny flowers, definitely the weakest of the 5. The clones I have running while these flower are from pheno 1 (middle plant), because she grew the most aggressively and was the most branchy in veg. I'm starting to wish I'd kept clones of pheno #3 (front left plant) because she was least affected by my shitty growing and has the best stacking buds of the 5 thus far.
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Week 15. Flowering
5 years ago
127 cm
12 hrs
24 °C
6.4
Normal
50 %
22 °C
21 °C
19 L
4 L
50.8 cm
1000 PPM
Nutrients 4
Flawless Finish - Advanced Nutrients
Flawless Finish 2 mll
Tiger Bloom - Fox Farm
Tiger Bloom 1.321 mll
Mammoth P - Mammoth Microbes
Mammoth P 0.6 mll
Couldn't control the temp in the garage flower room, so I moved them inside into a 4x4 tent (pics are from just before the move inside) and got a Pulse monitor. Conditions much better now. Learning a lot each week and will apply it to the next grow in the queue.
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Week 16. Flowering
5 years ago
127 cm
12 hrs
24 °C
6.4
Normal
50 %
22 °C
21 °C
19 L
4 L
50.8 cm
1000 PPM
Nutrients 4
Flawless Finish - Advanced Nutrients
Flawless Finish 2 mll
Tiger Bloom - Fox Farm
Tiger Bloom 1.321 mll
Mammoth P - Mammoth Microbes
Mammoth P 0.6 mll
Cut the crappy plant down, root shot up above. Pics next week will show the new setup in the tent.
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Week 17. Flowering
5 years ago
127 cm
12 hrs
24 °C
6.4
Normal
50 %
22 °C
21 °C
19 L
4 L
50.8 cm
1000 PPM
Nutrients 1
Flawless Finish - Advanced Nutrients
Flawless Finish 2 mll
This is the newest setup in the 4x4 inside. Environment is under control completely now, Trichomes are mostly cloudy now, some amber. Starting flush now. Breeedeer says 63-73 days and I'm right around 60 at the moment (9.17).
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Week 17. Harvest
5 years ago
Spent 120 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
54.57 g
Bud dry weight per plant
4
Plants
1.49
Grow Room size
Normal
Difficulty
Positive effects
Hungry, Relaxed, Sleepy
Positive effects
Taste
Earthy, Pine, Woody
Taste

Height
Day air temperature
Air humidity
PH
CO2
Light schedule
Solution temperature
Night air temperature
Pot size
Lamp distance
Just cut down on 9/21 (day 63). Will update with weight and other info after dry/cure.
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GrowLow
GrowLowcommentedweek 175 years ago
@@@@Spaceman, This is my first grow as I'm sure you saw, I researched as much as I could about when to harvest and most were saying that when all the trichomes were mostly cloudy and a few amber started to appear that that was the best time. On three plants, most of the trichomes were cloudy, and I did start to see some amber on them. Especially one plant was far more ready than the other three as it had a LOT of amber. Since I have to dry in the same tent they were flowering in, I chose to harvest now, I'm sure you're correct that they could have gone longer (breeder said 63-73 days,and I went on 63). On my next run I will have a separate drying space from my flowering space, and so if certain plants become ready before others, I can harvest them as they are ready, instead of all at once. I'm adding a couple of pictures now of the one I thought was most ready so you can see what I mean. I'll add notes with them with your name on them so you can see which I mean. Thanks for the comments bro, I can use all the critique I can get! EDIT: Added some pics for you to look at. Let me know if you agree on this particular plant or if you think even this one was too early. Thanks dude! (If you look at the pic of all four before cut down, this is the plant in the back left corner with the most color)
OrganicChronic
OrganicChroniccommentedweek 126 years ago
I read your thing about feeding. I use compost teas/ dry amendments. I dont worry about feeding or ph anymore, as long as my microbes are strong and diverse. My journal is FFOF as well, with added insect frass, roots organic flower mix, and a lot more aeration. I do a top dress before I enter flower and maybe one more light one but less is more. I wouldn’t say it’s very hot soil, but the microbes regulate it for me in the rhizosphere. When I leaf strip I take off a few more leaves from the top as well so light penetrates lower. But again nice work
GrowLow
GrowLowcommented6 years ago
@OrganicChronic,Read the latest updates and look at my pics when you get a chance. I kicked myself in the nuts pretty hard. Let me know if you think this is recoverable. Good news is the clones look great and I'm not killing with too much of anything, so if all else fails, they can rise from the ashes of this grow!
Spaceman
Spacemancommentedweek 175 years ago
hey bro nice plants 👌 but why you harvest? if the pictures are of the last day before harvest.. they look quite a long way from ready. I would have thought 2-3 weeks at least. Enjoy anyway 👍
GrowLow
GrowLowcommented5 years ago
@@@Spaceman, Thanks a ton for taking the time to comment in such a detailed way. I'm checking out some comparisons now per your suggestion. And you are right, I did count the day I flipped to 12/12, so your opinion that I'm early is probably correct. The info of looking at trichomes directly on the buds versus the leaves is something I'll take with me into the next grow for sure. Those did throw off my judgement. To be perfectly honest, I was actually surprised I had gotten them this far given my lack of experience. I'm very satisfied knowing that this grow brought me a lot of experiences and new knowledge (including your thoughts and suggestions!), even if I sold it short some by taking it down early. Thanks again! I have some White Widow seedlings maturing now as I prepare them for their first transplant, so if you see me stepping on any landmines in that grow, I'm all ears!
Spaceman
Spacemancommented5 years ago
@GrowLow, hi. I checked the pictures and.. yes.. they are far from ripe. A ripe bud looks much different, you can find many examples on here, maybe check out the top growers or diaries of the month. You will recognize an obvious difference in ripeness. All the pistils (the white hair) should shrink and turn orange/brown.. the buds also had a lot of swelling to go for. It is right what you say about the trichomes (the crystals on the bud and sugar leaves) but.. when harvesting we dont consider the trichomes on the little leaves we can see in your picture but look straight at the bud. Those trichomes on the leaves lose colour due to touch by hand or other leaves or other environmental factors. A nice thing about growing is the learning experience 👍 Enjoy bro one more thing: most of the time, in my experience, the average flowering times given by most breeders are quite accurate. Your strain is quite special so I dont know about this one. To consider there is, that flowering does not start at the day you flip the switch but when you see the flowers starting to form. Maybe you trained them just a day before the switch which stunted them a bit and so they took a bit longer to change their hormones and things from growing & schock to flowering.. its like a trauma i know the colour of the fan leaves suggests they are ready but I think you started to flush them too early and starved them of necessary nutrients for growth and ripening. Stay strong 👊 another thing that just came to mind: when looking at other grows for comparison, dont just look at the pictures in the week of harvest, also look at the weeks right before.. see if you find the stage you chopped yours in reference. I think in some cases you could be 4 to 5 weeks off (they really look great and I think if you do it like this again, just with more patience in the end, you will be a very happy person) 👽
GrowLow
GrowLowcommented5 years ago
@@@@Spaceman, This is my first grow as I'm sure you saw, I researched as much as I could about when to harvest and most were saying that when all the trichomes were mostly cloudy and a few amber started to appear that that was the best time. On three plants, most of the trichomes were cloudy, and I did start to see some amber on them. Especially one plant was far more ready than the other three as it had a LOT of amber. Since I have to dry in the same tent they were flowering in, I chose to harvest now, I'm sure you're correct that they could have gone longer (breeder said 63-73 days,and I went on 63). On my next run I will have a separate drying space from my flowering space, and so if certain plants become ready before others, I can harvest them as they are ready, instead of all at once. I'm adding a couple of pictures now of the one I thought was most ready so you can see what I mean. I'll add notes with them with your name on them so you can see which I mean. Thanks for the comments bro, I can use all the critique I can get! EDIT: Added some pics for you to look at. Let me know if you agree on this particular plant or if you think even this one was too early. Thanks dude! (If you look at the pic of all four before cut down, this is the plant in the back left corner with the most color)
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