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Triangle Kush x M10
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Grow medium
18.927 l
Pot Size
Grow Conditions
Week 12
Flowering
127
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Height
12 hrs
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12+ conditions after
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GrowLow GrowLow
5 years ago
-Discovered some initial signs of thrip damage, checked a leaf under a scope and did see a couple larvae. As a result, did a major leaf strip (as you can tell from the first overhead picture to the second one) and sprayed with Captain Jack's Dead Bug. Going to order some green lacewings in case the spray and root drench didn't finish the job. Don't really want to spray anything else the rest of flower if I can avoid it. Bud development seems to be moving along, although slowly. I have been hesitant to feed much because of the Ocean Forest soil I'm using, but I'm going to give a heavier than usual feed next time and see how they react. I've kept it very light up to this point, and they now have 1000ppm of Co2 and way more intense light, so I'm assuming they can use the extra food. Just a bit of info on the room setup itself. The canopy space is 4x7'ish. The light is an HLG 550 V2 Rspec on a light rail light mover. Co2 being added via tank with fuzzy logic controller, and a dehumidifier keeping the room in the low to mid 50's. Temps are staying around mid-80's during lights on, and closer 78-80 lights off. UPDATE 8/11 - End of Week 3: So it looks like I screwed up big time! On 8/5 I did the root drench portion of the Capt Jack's Dead Bug treatment, then the spray treatment on 8/6. I had the bright idea that since I'd been fighting a mag def problem for a while, and that Cal-Mag says it can be applied as a foliar feed, that I'd add it to the bug treatment and spray both together. Cal-Mag was also in the root drench at Botanicare's suggested concentration (FOR FOLIAR) of 10ml per gallon. So I both root drenched AND sprayed bug stuff + Cal-Mag at that concentration (I had mixed all of it in one batch like an idiot!) within a day of each other. Plants did NOT like that as you can see from the pictures. Leaves overall got pale, and MANY burned tips and burn spots on the leaves. I'm not sure if this is the end of these plants altogether, or if they can ride this out, but I'm quite sure that I've done permanent damage. For now, I'm just going to continue to water with straight RO water (they got fed bloom nutrients last week) for a few waterings and see if that helps them any. If it looks bad, I'll just cut them down. The biggest mistake I've made so far with this grow was letting them veg way too long. I was holding out for a better flowering light since I didn't have a suitable one when they were ready to switch, so I just waited. Now they are tall enough that they are going to finish too close to my light (HLG suggests minimum of 24" in flower, and the tallest buds are already inside that range), and since this most recent screwup, I'm positive whatever I get will be crap anyway. The other issue is the clones I took will be in the same position while these are still finishing - plants ready to flower but the flower room is occupied. I suppose I could just start them flowering two or three weeks before these finish under the 8-bulb T5 they under right now, then put them under the flower light after I harvest these. That seems a rather bad option, because then instead of one gimpy crop, I'd be starting my second one under less than ideal conditions as well, when I could just accept the loss on the first and give the second a way better chance. What a mess! Good lessons being learned though. Biggest lesson this week was DON'T TRY TO DO TOO MUCH! Fix one thing, then worry about Cal-Mag or whatever else is going on. As much as this is a bummer, I'm glad to be going through this because it'll all just make me better going forward.
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OrganicChronic
OrganicChronicweek 12
I read your thing about feeding. I use compost teas/ dry amendments. I dont worry about feeding or ph anymore, as long as my microbes are strong and diverse. My journal is FFOF as well, with added insect frass, roots organic flower mix, and a lot more aeration. I do a top dress before I enter flower and maybe one more light one but less is more. I wouldn’t say it’s very hot soil, but the microbes regulate it for me in the rhizosphere. When I leaf strip I take off a few more leaves from the top as well so light penetrates lower. But again nice work
GrowLow
GrowLow
@OrganicChronic,Read the latest updates and look at my pics when you get a chance. I kicked myself in the nuts pretty hard. Let me know if you think this is recoverable. Good news is the clones look great and I'm not killing with too much of anything, so if all else fails, they can rise from the ashes of this grow!
Spaceman
Spacemanweek 17
hey bro nice plants 👌 but why you harvest? if the pictures are of the last day before harvest.. they look quite a long way from ready. I would have thought 2-3 weeks at least. Enjoy anyway 👍
GrowLow
GrowLow
@@@Spaceman, Thanks a ton for taking the time to comment in such a detailed way. I'm checking out some comparisons now per your suggestion. And you are right, I did count the day I flipped to 12/12, so your opinion that I'm early is probably correct. The info of looking at trichomes directly on the buds versus the leaves is something I'll take with me into the next grow for sure. Those did throw off my judgement. To be perfectly honest, I was actually surprised I had gotten them this far given my lack of experience. I'm very satisfied knowing that this grow brought me a lot of experiences and new knowledge (including your thoughts and suggestions!), even if I sold it short some by taking it down early. Thanks again! I have some White Widow seedlings maturing now as I prepare them for their first transplant, so if you see me stepping on any landmines in that grow, I'm all ears!
Spaceman
Spaceman
@GrowLow, hi. I checked the pictures and.. yes.. they are far from ripe. A ripe bud looks much different, you can find many examples on here, maybe check out the top growers or diaries of the month. You will recognize an obvious difference in ripeness. All the pistils (the white hair) should shrink and turn orange/brown.. the buds also had a lot of swelling to go for. It is right what you say about the trichomes (the crystals on the bud and sugar leaves) but.. when harvesting we dont consider the trichomes on the little leaves we can see in your picture but look straight at the bud. Those trichomes on the leaves lose colour due to touch by hand or other leaves or other environmental factors. A nice thing about growing is the learning experience 👍 Enjoy bro one more thing: most of the time, in my experience, the average flowering times given by most breeders are quite accurate. Your strain is quite special so I dont know about this one. To consider there is, that flowering does not start at the day you flip the switch but when you see the flowers starting to form. Maybe you trained them just a day before the switch which stunted them a bit and so they took a bit longer to change their hormones and things from growing & schock to flowering.. its like a trauma i know the colour of the fan leaves suggests they are ready but I think you started to flush them too early and starved them of necessary nutrients for growth and ripening. Stay strong 👊 another thing that just came to mind: when looking at other grows for comparison, dont just look at the pictures in the week of harvest, also look at the weeks right before.. see if you find the stage you chopped yours in reference. I think in some cases you could be 4 to 5 weeks off (they really look great and I think if you do it like this again, just with more patience in the end, you will be a very happy person) 👽
GrowLow
GrowLow
@@@@Spaceman, This is my first grow as I'm sure you saw, I researched as much as I could about when to harvest and most were saying that when all the trichomes were mostly cloudy and a few amber started to appear that that was the best time. On three plants, most of the trichomes were cloudy, and I did start to see some amber on them. Especially one plant was far more ready than the other three as it had a LOT of amber. Since I have to dry in the same tent they were flowering in, I chose to harvest now, I'm sure you're correct that they could have gone longer (breeder said 63-73 days,and I went on 63). On my next run I will have a separate drying space from my flowering space, and so if certain plants become ready before others, I can harvest them as they are ready, instead of all at once. I'm adding a couple of pictures now of the one I thought was most ready so you can see what I mean. I'll add notes with them with your name on them so you can see which I mean. Thanks for the comments bro, I can use all the critique I can get! EDIT: Added some pics for you to look at. Let me know if you agree on this particular plant or if you think even this one was too early. Thanks dude! (If you look at the pic of all four before cut down, this is the plant in the back left corner with the most color)