so far the one is tiny and has not done much, the shell was stuck on her, as with the others I have grown from this pack but it is really nice smoke. the one that is up is right where it needs to be. I have to flip her in two weeks unfortunately so she will at least have 3 and a half weeks of veg. other wise she will be going in to a sack of dirt mix with coco about 3 gallons worth almost 4.