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Hi bros,
This is our second grow from a respectable seed bank, this time we are going with Green House Seed, original White Widow.
08h in a cup of water
2 days in soil and sprout
Day 3 got out of her shell and went inside =)
Soil is:
- Carolina Soil (50% vermiculite + 50% spagnum)
+ Azomite
+ Endo Myco
+ Wormcast humus
+ Neem Seed Meal
+ Bone meal (a tiny bit)
She will change pot (14l) after around two weeks for veg and flower.
Nice to be here again... waiting to hear from you.
Any tips for this particular breeder and strain? Another classic, ain't she?
Tchau, do Brasil :)
Started her feed at day 08 with 1/4 dosage on 500ml of water.
She is fine and seem to like the light from the QB. Lights were 35cm from her top and internode space was too tight so I got her down and the cola is 55cm from the light source now. Again, she look like she is enjoying.
Let’s hoje she deals with her first biogrow feed. I took care and went 1/4 of the recommended dosage.
Tchau, do Brazil!
Hi bro(s),
This week was busy, she got transplanted to her final resting place at the beginning and we started our JEDI LST training - she was bent over and toped a little later on.
I think she's fine, a little slower at first but getting on the right track, just growing with the flow =)
Got up with the bio-grow on her second watering after the feed... she took it well, but I will keep it slow as I added a few amendments that are high on N, such as neem cake meal, wormcast humus and fish bone meal.
Tchau, vejo vocês em breve! =)
Hey bros,
Im taking a little longer to grow then my previous sister, the NL from Sensi Seeds, but I'm healthy and beautiful. My leaf color is great, don't you think?
I was bent those days and now Im starting to grow stronger and stronger. My daddy is waiting another 10 days and then he's going to me into flower...
What do you think, when should I go to flower? Do i stretch much? Please advice.
Tchau, do Brazil =)
Hey bros, she is fine. It seems she got TMV at a few leaves, but I heard if it's not stunting growth or anything, that it is fine. She's also a lone child, so I can't cut her or something like it. I will leave her be, my guts tells me she is fine. And she grows more and more everyday.
I'm thinking about flipping her to flower in a few days, maybe around 20... she already got at least 12-14 tops that will grow directly into the light and all the other nodes are growing. I'm betting that she will stretch and spread the tops into the light.
What do you think?
Hi bros.
I think we got the Tobacco Mosaic Virus, twisted growth, yellow veins, burned leaf areas... but I 've read if it's not stoping the growth, let it go.. I bet, cause I only got one plant at a time. She never stoped growing, though at most affected tops I think growth got a little slower.
So, gave her feeding between pure water, at 3 days ratio, 2l.... went up to 0.75ml/l with Bio-grow, and now signs of overfert. The soil has lots of flowering amendenments so I will start slow with Bio-bloom next week when we flip to flower.
Let's go. Happy growing to you all...
Tchau, do Brazil! =)
Hi bros,
Got her fed with 1ml/l Grow now and Bloom. Also I've added up some more amendnments, Fish bone meal, Alfafa Meal and Granular humic acids by Down to earth, they say to put some 5-10g everymonth, so I did it as we are already 8 weeks from day 01....
Despite the TMV infection spreading to more and more leaves, she won't stop growing! I think she's turning this into something like: 'if it doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger' =)
So, let's go flowering!
See you later, folks.
Tchau, do Brazil! =)
Hey bro(s),
I've been busy so, I got little time to update the diary, but we got lots of twisted leaves, maybe TMV, AMV (Alfafa), Ca def, or, or... so we, me and her, decided to let it grow... she's in the 13th day I she's going strong, I little affected I think she could do better without all the twisting and shouting, but.. she keeps going on, anyaways, she's a lonely child, you know? we got to keep the good vibrations and hoping for the best... =)
I used Alfafa Meal in the soil and I heard about the Alfafa Mosaic Virus - that got me thinking, maybe this? I kinda let it go with the Ca or any other deficiency because I used Fish Bone Meal, Azomite, Dololmite Lime powder, Humic Acids and wormcastings in the soil preparation... what the hell, PH? but what about all those twisting? Let it grow =)
Tchau, do Brazil
Hey bro(s),
Been busy and lazy, sorry. There are some curly and twisted leaves with dead spots but they are contained, as per se.. or spreading slow now... there are plenty of green leaves and I wont take any of the green leaves till the end, because she is already behind for the dead spots showing on the infected parts... well, she keeps growing.. I think without the twisted she would do better, but she is strong. I love my lady anyways. =)
So, what do you think?
Tchau, do Brazil! =)
Hi bro(s),
She looks fine, but I still think she would do better with no twisting and shouting. =)
Anyway, I will but the net and spread her so the light can get in on the next days...
Tchau, do Brasil =)
Hey bro(s),
Just catching up with the diary... getting fatter =)
Ferts were kept pretty much the same, alternating with some pure water...
Asked my wife to shoot some pictures, enjoy! highres mostly. =)
Tchau, do Brazil!
Hi bros,
It's been a while but we finally got an update. She's a little slow, but she keeps going on strong.
I don't think the net contributed much for her plans, but it's already there so I will leave it.
Anyways, I guess I should have defoliated a little bit more and pruned some lower growth early to middle flower, there's a lot of stuff going on in the shadows, but because she was already affected by the twisting and shouting I let it go without bothering her.
So, after a few mistakes we are still here - growing and learning!
A few weeks left to go.
Another update coming soon.
Tchau, do Brazil! =)
Hey bros, how is it growing? Happy, I hope.
So, she's going stronger everyday, still fatting up those buds, I'll let her go for 10 to 11 weeks I guess, she will tell me.
I'm planning on using KoolBloom powder on the last week, or last two weeks, what do you think? I'm betting it will fatten up those buds even more.
I'm planning on feeding till late week 8, KB on the 9th (alone), and plain water for 10-12 days.. what do you think?
See you soon.
Tchau, do Brasil! =)
Hi bros,
This is the 54th flowering day, so I mixed 0.6g of KoolBloom + BioHeaven and Biogrow (as listed above).. the ph of the solution was 6.2, and the ph of the solution going out was 5.4, is this ok? how can I deal with it? Now that my ph pen has arrived, Im leaning towards ph problems causing nutrients lockout/burn + genetic variegation, as pointed by BudX on the questions. What do you think?
Let's see how she deals with the KB. I gave her 1/2 strength dosage and the ppm was 355 I think, not as high as I expected, but still I did not put more. Let's see how she deals with it.
GH guys say to give powder KB for the last 3-2 weeks before flush... I started at day 01 on week 8 and if it's ok I will add some more on the first day of week 9, giving her 10-14 days of pure flush after.
I will let her free and take out the net.
Give me your thoughts, ok?
Tchau, do Brazil! =)
Hi bros!
After all, she's looking nice and I hope she's ready around nov/29. The lady drinks only water, with 20% runoff. But she is drinking less by now, went from 2/2 days to 4/4 days and given around 5L. In the past she got 3l with little or no runoff.
I will add some microscopic shots of the trichomes later on.
Tchau, do Brazil! =)
I think this plant needs some extra cal-mag for flowering, we got a few burned tips and twisting of the leaves but after all nothing would stop her. The yield was much more then I predicted. The buds are heavy and dense, full of smell and I hope flavour. I will definitely be growing again with an adapted nutrients and watering tactic.
I will updated the rest of the information as soon as I got to taste the result from the first two weeks cure.
Hello again, I'm back a few weeks later and I have tried different class buds, the B and A are awesome, and the C is just tasteful but very weak until now. The larger batches (30 and 50g) are around 10 days each, and I look forward to try some everyweek, but meanwhile im smoking the class C popcorn. Time will bring the good news. =)
Thanks for following, I hope it was fun. It was for me.
Tchau, do Brazil! =)
It was a pleasure to grow such a classic. I can't wait to taste the results. The buds were heavy and dense, they weighted much more then I thought they would. I'm very happy and the smell is awesome!
The buds smell and feel delicious.
Thank you for following our adventures!
Tchau, do Brazil!
I will updated the diary as soon as the first two weeks cure is over and I taste it...
Thanks for following our adventure!
Tchau, do Brazil!
Two-toned leaves usually have split coloring in a relatively straight line. This mutation often affects just one or two leaves on the whole plant, though sometimes you’ll get a whole stem or part of the plant that displays this characteristic. The two-toned leaves don’t seem to have much effect on anything, but it’s kinda cool looking! I am seeing a calcium deficiency that is those brown spots on leaves. If grow medium is acidic (below 6.2 pH, Calcium can get locked out even if the Calcium is physically there). In hydro, calcium is best absorbed by the roots in the 6.2 – 6.5 pH range (in hydro, it’s generally recommended to keep the pH between 5.5 – 6.5, but calcium specifically tends to be best absorbed above 6.2)
@LaCreme, rapaz até agora acho que o vírus está devendo pois com 6 dias de flora a planta está linda! Acho que talvez possa perder um pouco mas no fim, a princípio, acho que vai dar bem... tomara pq não to afim de comprar fumo tão cedo!
@amazongrow vivendo e aprendendo, não conhecia isso...dei uma pesquisada pra saber do que se tratava, achei uma prt interessante;
"Plantas muito doentes ficam raquíticas e apresentam frutos com necrose interna vascular e/ou bronzeamento superficial.
Em ambiente de alta temperatura, as plantas e os frutos podem parecer assintomáticos. Entretanto, dependendo da estirpe do vírus pode ocorrer necrose interna vascular e/ou bronzeamento na superfície do fruto."
Que de tudo certo, envio boas vibracoes!
👽
I'm happy to see the progress growmie ! i dont think it's pH problems, these look different and the humic acid will pH your soil to 6.5 which is no problem
to suspeitando q tu ta tirando onda 😒 pintou elas e ainda bateu com o secador de cabelo pra dar uma palinha curvada rsrs 😅! Nao encontro nada identico em relaçao a aparencia das folhas, até em livros de botanica procurei rs 😱 estou curioso pakas!
@Fruitgrower, yeah, I guess so. I've mixed granular humic acids, dolomite lime powder and neem cake meal.... with some other stuff.. but they say those mentioned do alter ph and shit... last watering I had 6.2 ph watered in and when I measured the runoff it was at 5.2.. so I guess something went unbalanced, but the buds do look fat and hard. I hope she can provide at least 50-60g of dry bud. I can't wait to grow it again and correct those mistakes.
tchau, do Brazil! =)
@amazongrow, perhaps it is just a pk overdose then, the buds do look pretty fat. too late to fix other than stop feeding nutes. But I have not seen this myself so I can't really comment....
@Fruitgrower, hey bro, I thought that at first but there are healthy leafs up on top that are not affected, and others at bottom that are. And its my second grow using this 120W QB. Previous one the height was about the same. But I guess there might be a little, yes, maybe, along with ph fluctuations and some nute lockout. Thanks for comment, btw. Welcome and happy growing.
@amazongrow,ok , if we go further in plant science this symptoms can come from many factors , primary factors are too much lumens or if not it can be a lack of Cal . Otherwise it can be too little Manganese, Boron, Molybdenum but this is extremely rare in soil .
You can send an email to GH seeds with the pictures, and ask them if they’ve ever heard or seen TMV on a White Widow bro.
@JUNGLE_B4RNS, her leaves have touched the soil when I got her down the first time for LST, and its been spreading as I touch others... I will give her some calcium then, I tought that with my 175ppm water and azomite she won't need it... well, I will try to add some.
Oh and the soil was also amended with dolomite lime... will not use again, I've been having issues when I put it. In the last grow I didnt use it and the NL got no deficiencies at all... it might be a shitty lime I guess.
But anyways, she's not slow and is in the growth flow...
Thanks a lot for the feedback, mate.
Tchau, do Brazil! =)
@Island, procura ai.. tobcacco mosaic virus, to neurado.. ja tem em algumas folhas.. puta merda... mas ela ta crescendo, eu li que nao tem cura e se tiver normal pra deixar rolar.. nao tenho opcao, entao to deixando.. eu me preocupo no tamanho pq a NL ficou enorme e a luz nao entrava mto, tive que pipocar mto bud que poderia ter crescido.. essa vou deixar mais baixo pra tentar deixar a penetracao bem massa e tudo por perto da luz...acho que dia 20 mando pra flora, deixar crescer mais um pouco. =)
@amazongrow, normalmente eu nao me importo com o tamanho da planta, eu monitoro o desenvolvimento de raizes, se vc notar q a planta ja ta com raizes no final do vaso, ja é um indicador pra saber q ela ja pode florar, ate pq na pre flora ela termina de ajustar o tamanho total dela.
Sobre o Virus do tabaco, eu nao conheço.
Nem falei com vc, comprei uma QB de 120W de 3000K (somente pra flora). Deve chegar essa semana ou na proxima rssr.
@Island, fala suppa, pois eh essa tá mais devagar e bem espalhada e acho que com aquele vírus do tabaco, já vistes? Mas tá crescendo bem. Vou dar mais 5 dias e mando pra flora dia 20. Acho que crescem mais uns 10cm cada topo... ai meto a rede e deixo rolar o stretch acho que vai fica rnuma boa altura./ q vc me diz?
If Kabloom is a PK booster, you're too late! You wanna add that at like week 4 when the flower starts showing structure. You should taper all nutes and prepare for a flush. Upping the PK for such a short time will not be beneficial. Also when fed alone it has a tendency to cause nute burn unless you go at 25% dosage
@BudXs, @Clutch
Hey guys, GH recommends using KB on the last week only and define it as per se:
"In addition to increased flower density, Dry KoolBloom promotes greater oil and fragrance production along with faster ripening. Highly concentrated and cost effective, this supplement offers macronutrients that are primarily responsible for flower and fruit growth.
Dry KoolBloom is used for the ripening stage to increase the intensity of the plant's flowering and fruiting process"
@BudXs, u right about being too late for PK booster now. however, and If the plant shows that she can handle it, I would just give the full dosage of nutrients he is currently using for a last push. It's all P and K in there too so no harm done. And At least 2 weeks of flushing 🙂
@amazongrow, eu ainda só experimentei autos, estou agora fazendo um set de gorila auto da rqs, quando terminar vou finalmente tentar fem, tambem para fazer uma vega maior!
Sua planta esta linda bro, mas aqui, da pra vc otimizar essa colheita.
Numa proxima, tenta equalizar esses topos.
Na pre flora vc deixa só uns 10 cm de folhas (poda lolipop) e oq surgir acima (ate o final da pre flora) serao seus Top Buds Gordos.
Da forma q ta ai tem muita flor la embaixo q nao ta vendo luz, q porem esta roubando energia das flores do topo.
Mas ta lindo, resinou bonito d+ pra variar.
@Island, eh isso mesmo meu caro, eu fui meio preguiçoso com ela e perdi a hora da poda, mas na proxima vou tentar um mainline com 8-12 topos, e comprar um scrog decente com 36 buracos, ai preciso me disciplinar pra nao perder os momentos certos e deixar tudo no mesmo tamanho, valeu a dica =)
@ThatsNotMe, hey bro, thanks. me too.
he went to the window to grow with the child protection net... they love it =)
follow us, i will show him again =)
She looks great for real. I like the bush impression and the color. Is the humidity a light bit high? I had almost the same level of humidity and I and to put more fan in the grow box. Good job mate!
amazongrow
