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Fission 300W Light Emitting Diodes/600W
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Fission 300W Light Emitting Diodes/600W
Custom
Indoor
Room Type
SoG
weeks Technique
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Week 1. Vegetation
11y ago
7 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
Nutrients 3
B'cuzz Coco A - ATAMI
B'cuzz Coco A
1 mll
B'cuzz Coco B - ATAMI
B'cuzz Coco B
1 mll
B'cuzz Root Stimulator - ATAMI
B'cuzz Root Stimulator
1 mll
loneju Hello, friends! Welcome to my diary! Probably, experiment is a big word. Eventually real experiment (in our case) means using various stimulators from different producers. I just want to know for what purpose I buy so many expensive additives. So, I will set two separated Drip Irrigation system in the box (3m x 1.5 m). Each half of the box will has lighting 900W Yesterday I cut 75 Chronic SS clones, I dipped them in rooting gel and stuck them in Grodan cubes. Tap water. Previously, I leveled PH. I don’t do it now. Light schedule is 18/6, two tubes 18W 6500K. The bottom of the greenhouse is heated up to 27C. I’ve tried different temperature, it is best to take root. At the first three days I don’t open clones, then ventilate two times a day. Usually the desired number of clones gives roots by the tenth day. The first roots appear at the 5th or 6th day. I don’t know how it will be this time, knock on wood)) While they are drinking, I moisten the cubes. I take the syringe and poured into the each cube a little bit. I hope 50 clones with good roots will be among 75 clones. Clones are clear in this time, thick is 2-3 toothpicks, and sometimes is 4. About my box. The first is ventilation. It is not enough in the heat for 600W x 3. Perfect is m3/W. I try not to grow in the summer. Now it works good. Fan Box glued inside with sound-absorbing material. Fan 1000 m3 are regulated by transformer. I have one meter of silencer and about half meter of Sonodec hose. In general, I haven’t problems with the sound and the temperature. I secure the lamp with hook and chain. Reflectors Adjust a wing medium. They are cool. They good illuminate with 600W lamp the square 180cm x 130cm. The lamp for vegetation is Sunmaster 600, for blooming is GreenPower 600. I made the sprayers myself. I bought tubes in growshop. The tube diameter is 4cm. I made holes for tubules using the drill (3.2mm). Easy aquarium pump pumps to 100 tubules and more per 1000 liters. It is good system because there is always the water in the tube and the air can’t enter to the tube's ends. After each growing, you should be not lazy to disassemble and wash all tubes. I blocked the one tube only once. It’s clearly visible in the photo The second day: Today I’ve seen that 60 clones among 70 have taken the roots. So I’ve planted them quickly. I switched on one MH bulm 600W. Poured each bush with 500ml of solution 1200uS(Coco A and B, root stimulator and enzymes). I try to keep 5.8ph. They will recover three days, then it’ll be start of vegetative stage under the light The fifth day: Finally, clones have started to grow. I planted total 57 clones. Each is in 3.5l post, a total of 200 liters of coconut (4 bags). 2 clones didn’t start to grow. So I have 55 clones. When they grow up a little more, I'll choose 50 and 5 clones will be for procreation. I will be waiting 4-5 days til they are determined who's who. I’ll put on the edges the strongest and healthy clones and closer to the center under the lamp a weaker clones. So it’ll be more or less glatt SOG. Then I’ll set the drop and pull the net. Now I pour with 100ml of solution 1200uS every day. After setting Drip Irrigation I will pour only nutrients at the left part , booster and bloom stimulator (at the flowering stage) at the right part
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Week 2. Vegetation
11y ago
13 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
5.6
pH
Nutrients 3
B'cuzz Coco A - ATAMI
B'cuzz Coco A
1 mll
B'cuzz Coco B - ATAMI
B'cuzz Coco B
1 mll
B'cuzz Root Stimulator - ATAMI
B'cuzz Root Stimulator
1 mll
loneju The one vegetation week has gone. Feeding is separated, difference is not seen, and it’s too early.
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Week 3. Vegetation
11y ago
16 cm
Height
18 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
Nutrients 3
B'cuzz Coco A - ATAMI
B'cuzz Coco A
1 mll
B'cuzz Coco B - ATAMI
B'cuzz Coco B
1 mll
B'cuzz Root Stimulator - ATAMI
B'cuzz Root Stimulator
1 mll
loneju Two vegetation weeks were gone, everything is good. I’ll start the blooming stage today or tomorrow. Feeding is 1500uS PH 5,5-6,0.
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Week 4. Flowering
11y ago
26 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
Nutrients 6
B'cuzz Coco A - ATAMI
B'cuzz Coco A
1 mll
B'cuzz Coco B - ATAMI
B'cuzz Coco B
1 mll
B'cuzz Root Stimulator - ATAMI
B'cuzz Root Stimulator
1 mll
loneju The first blooming week has gone. It’s ok. Both groups are alike. The feeding is the same 1500us, PH 5,8. Together they drink about 20-22l, or 1 bush drinks about 450ml The 23d day: They’ve started to bloom on the 9th day of flowering. I’ve started to add PK13/14 0,3 ml per liter. The total EC is 1700uS. Both groups develop alike, only 4 bushes were lifted on 7-10 cm in group without stimulators. This is my nutrients in the photo.
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Week 5. Flowering
11y ago
30 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
5.8
pH
Nutrients 6
B'cuzz Coco A - ATAMI
B'cuzz Coco A
1 mll
B'cuzz Coco B - ATAMI
B'cuzz Coco B
1 mll
ATA PK 13-14 - ATAMI
ATA PK 13-14
1 mll
loneju Both groups develop with no apparent differences. The solution is the same. Today measurements that they drink 38 liters per a day. This is about 750ml for each bush or 8 liters for 1m2, it’s very good. Some days I’ve thought about one problem. I use one tank for solution and one tank for drainage, each is 90l. One time I had problem with timer during irrigation, and the entire solution has flowed into the tank with drainage. It’s annoying, but not terrible. So I have two tanks for solution and one for drainage. Not fit. So pump works through 4 timers I haven’t invented anything better. I set two windows for irrigation and еру exact time. I’ve tried already. Four timers shouldn’t stuck simultaneously. Of couse, it is not 100% guarantee, but I sleep better.
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Week 6. Flowering
11y ago
37 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
5.7
pH
Nutrients 6
 B'cuzz Coco Bloom Stimulator - ATAMI
B'cuzz Coco Bloom Stimulator
0.5 mll
B'cuzz Coco Booster Uni - ATAMI
B'cuzz Coco Booster Uni
1.5 mll
B'cuzz Coco A - ATAMI
B'cuzz Coco A
1.5 mll
loneju Three weeks of flowering. Everything is ok. I try but I don’t see the difference between groups. Four days ago, I changed the bulbs, now three Green Power 600w illuminate. They drink a little less, but enough (together drink about 30l per day). Feeding is The first group Coco A&B 1.5 ml/l 1500uS, PK 13/14 0.6ml/l 1700uS, Atazyme 2ml/l The other group + Coco Booster 1.5ml/l Bloom Stimulator 0.5ml/l PH 5.6-6.0
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Week 7. Flowering
11y ago
45 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
5.7
pH
Nutrients 6
B'cuzz Coco A - ATAMI
B'cuzz Coco A
1.5 mll
B'cuzz Coco B - ATAMI
B'cuzz Coco B
1.5 mll
ATA PK 13-14 - ATAMI
ATA PK 13-14
1 mll
loneju Hey, Everyone! The 4-th week has gone. Like before there is no difference between the groups, plants develop the same. The feeding: Coco A&B 1.5/l to 1500uS PK 13/14 1ml/l to 1800uS Atazyme 2 ml/l The second group: + Coco Booster 1.5 ml/l + Bloom Stimulator 1ml/l PH 5.6-6.0 Weak defoliation has begun. In general, everything is going according to plan.
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Week 8. Flowering
11y ago
51 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
5.7
pH
Nutrients 6
 B'cuzz Coco Bloom Stimulator - ATAMI
B'cuzz Coco Bloom Stimulator
1 mll
ATA PK 13-14 - ATAMI
ATA PK 13-14
1.3 mll
Atazyme - ATAMI
Atazyme
2 mll
loneju Today is the 5th week of blooming. Plants develop good. The feeding is the same. Just add PK13-14 1.3 ml/l. EC is 1900uS
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Week 9. Flowering
11y ago
60 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
5.7
pH
Nutrients 6
 B'cuzz Coco Bloom Stimulator - ATAMI
B'cuzz Coco Bloom Stimulator
1 mll
Atazyme - ATAMI
Atazyme
2 mll
ATA PK 13-14 - ATAMI
ATA PK 13-14
1.5 mll
loneju The 6th week of flowering. The feeding is the same. Now PK13/14 1.5 ml/l. EC is 2050uS. No difference between the groups. It seems only weighing will show.
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Week 10. Flowering
9y ago
68 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
5.7
pH
Nutrients 5
 B'cuzz Coco Bloom Stimulator - ATAMI
B'cuzz Coco Bloom Stimulator
1 mll
ATA PK 13-14 - ATAMI
ATA PK 13-14
1 mll
Atazyme - ATAMI
Atazyme
2 mll
loneju Here is seven weeks of blooming. "Caruncle" continues to grow slowly. I stopped give only Booster. After three weeks, we will know the winner.
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Week 11. Flowering
9y ago
77 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
5.7
pH
Nutrients 5
ATA PK 13-14 - ATAMI
ATA PK 13-14
1.5 mll
B'cuzz Coco A - ATAMI
B'cuzz Coco A
1.5 mll
B'cuzz Coco B - ATAMI
B'cuzz Coco B
1.5 mll
loneju The 8th week has gone. The plants develop normally, they surged markedly at the last week. I hope they will gain a little more weight during the remaining seven or eight days
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Week 12. Flowering
11y ago
90 cm
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
28 °C
Day Air Temp
5.7
pH
loneju This morning on the 61st day of flowering I noticed mold on the one bush. Without thinking I’ve started to cut all of them. I did not take any chances. Certainly they haven’t finished flowering. They need one more week. I can imagine that the group "fertilizers + boosters" weighs more. It has more heavy bushes and fewer small bushes, just one. And there are 6 small bushes in another group. But we are waiting weighing. After about a week I can say the results, if Jah will help
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Week 12. Harvest
9y ago
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Well, our experiment has ended. The group "fertilizers boosters" is winner by weight. It weighs 1098 grams. The other group weighs 977 grams. The total weight is 2075 grams. But there is one thing. If the six clones (about which I wrote before) were lucky with the roots, then the difference would not be 121 grams. In general we can conclude the stimulants are water. I decided, that I will not buy them again. Till the end, I was sure that stimulants produce up to 30% of weight. I have a little more than five hundred grams of leaves around the cones from this cycle. I wanted to do water hashish, but saw video about extraction in dry ice and decided to try. Ordered 6 pounds. I did not buy the net specifically, I have bags for ice extraction. I do not know dimensions of cells, just two bags. I took 150 grams of leaves and about 200 grams of ice, and shook it. First through the small mesh, I had 3 gr. Then through the big mesh, I had 12 gr. And this has stopped. Grids were clogged. Or rather they were damped because of the temperature difference. So for me it is the best way to fight off the plan. And a good output, 1 to 10
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Spent 85 days
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41.5 g
Bud dry weight per plant
50
Plants
4.5
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loneju That’s all. If I have something interesting in future, I will share with you. I want to grow up Ed Rosenthal Super Bud. Or may be other Chronic strain which will be more productive and resistant to mildew and cuter. It was ugly. I hope to be useful to someone.
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loneju commented9y ago
I’m pleased to do such tests, but I haven’t seen such fertilizers in a grow shop in stores. One more time about my experiment. Two groups by 25 plant will be. I will feed the first group with Atami B'cuzz Coco A&B, Atami Root Stimulator, Ata PK 13-14, Atazyme, the second group with the same + Atami B'cuzz Coco Booster Universal и Atami Coco Bloom Stimulator. This nutrients are from Holland with good quality. I use them about 9 years. I like their high concentration. 1.5ml of A and B give 1500uS. I want to finish growing on coconut, I'm tired to drag it, and it crumbles strongly.
ami
ami commented9y ago
Good luck, bro! Specify test stimulants, please
loneju
loneju commented9y ago
Atami stimulants: Atami Coco Booster and Atami Bloom Stimulator. I need about 2l of booster and 3l of stimulator for my box 4.5 m2. I pour not poorly, add booster during flowering
oldesse
oldesse commented9y ago
You have enough material to make more control groups and more interesting and useful experiment. The most cheep thing that comes to mind is Valagro stimulants in small containers (spray or pour 5 plants, and then fix the reaction). It would be interesting to see: Valagro: Set , Megafol, Radifarm, Cream, Extra, Viva, Actiwave
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