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Well i wanted to try some smart proteins on some mushrooms the idea being that it shouldnt kill the mycelium ... if it's nutrients or something else like a chelation agent we would expect it to kill the mycelium. But i didnt have time to make cakes and wait 5-6 weeks for them to be colonized etc, so i just bought a cake from @Zami_official here on GD. haha when it came i wrote to them immediately all like "does this look normal to you" so they were like yeah. Ok then i started the experiment, never really done this before so i just followed the instructions that came with the cake... and you'll see this turned out to be a mistake. In the meantime i kinda went full on microscopy, got a microscope and some inks and stains for some awesome pics down the line. The LC came i thought to myself let's try make some cakes anyway but since i expect to mess up i got some liquid culture vials to allow mistakes to be made. one of them came contaminated but i didnt know that at the time. followed the instructions but didnt really use a sterile environment. What did work, worked. As you can see the cake's mycelium was mostly fluffy (tomentose) not geometric (rhizomorphic) .
So for the second week i still had the cake in a very bright spot but with indirect light through the shutters, had a few coldish nights but nothing major, still no progress on the cake and at this point i'm scratching my head so i start reading up on the mushrooms in a better way. Turn out , much like plants and thank you to @growdocdc on here for some eye opening conversations , you gotta think where these space flowers come from, in this case p.cubensis really like tropical climates for example hawaii which is where the mcKenaii from ... so at this point i started misting a lot more like 4 times a day or more if I could to keep the humidity up. by the end of the week i started seeing hyphal knots so that was good. didnt get all the microscopy stuff in there in time but i'll try to make a few slides of these.
So I kept these in the bright room most of the week hyphal knots went from hyphal to a fruit and I have no idea when lol happens quick ... Started spraying up to 6 times a day seems that that's good for the mushroom , started fanning as well . Thanks for dropping in !
Fun week, so i harvested the first shroom , randomly it was ready before the others, so this is when i realized that the "McKennaii" strain is most likely a Penis Envy strain, this PE strain seems to be chosen for it's speed and density of flush as well as it's pretty much uniform fruiting bodies. This whole week i was misting up to 6 times a day, had some doubts if I have gone over the RH limit for fruiting, i think i did as you can see from the fuzzy bodies and bases. cut back on misting last day of the week. dried the first fruit harvest on that mat then when about half it's weight was through i added it to a dessicant shoebox, it's 1.3g now, getting jarred and hopefully will be able to make some slides with it. Later on in the week i thought three mushies were ready, i probably took the little one too early. Blue flesh of the gods ! Delish ! 🚀
Fun week , decided to end the flush , got some shrooms, tried to harvest spores, failed. accidently added way to much smart proteins to these, now the mycelium is stained brown, looks really angry/healthy but it's like beige-ish now.... the cake smells rank, probably i forgot the base of one or two shrooms or something now they smell... still though i thought i fucked it up but i'm seeing loads of hyphal knots coming already so i'm guessing i'll be seeing pins soon. Changed up a few things : got a heat mat from zamnesia for 12 bucks, i was gonna go chinese for 6.50 but a buddy on here told me he almost set his house on fire with one of the chinese ones lol. I shouldve got that mat ages ago, plus you can use it for your seedlings and etc... why i didnt start with this i cannot tell you. keeping the temperature nice and constant is really helping as far as i can tell. As it is i'm spraying as often as i can usually 4 times a day. Finally put the liquid culture in the fridge , it's absolutely ready even seeing a few black pin heads in it great seeing how you can take one drop from the sporemate and triple your culture basically effortlessly... one of the LC vials didnt work , still so i did get a refund i'm used for a pill machine, again it was randomly cheaper on zamnesia than amazon go figure.... I'll be finally getting around to making the microscope slides for this, i'm really looking forward to seeing the hyphal knots especially... advice on how to do this is very welcome ! I also made some pf cakes and innoculated them with the mundo mcKennaii strain, the point is trying to figure out how the smart protein works with this but also to compare spores and see if these strains are identical or not 🚀
So after my first flush i got those heat mats, didnt take long in the light for my cake to get contam, took a picture i think i lost it, cut the contam out didnt sterilise shit, few days later it got worse i threw the kit cake away oh well 17.9 dried plus whatever i had fresh, meaning i have 56 0.3s i havent tried it yet. meanwhile the small cakes with the liquid culture are just going basically a bit slow perhaps but some got more liquid than others i'm guessing that's why. I'll check these in three weeks and re-evaluate if they're ready to flower for a first flush. McKennaii less agressive than some of the more sporeful varieties and maybe that's okay, the rhizomorphic growth is encouraging, i was scared my cakes would fall apart maybe the mycelium will be able to hold them together. 🚀
So i thought the cakes would be 100% ready by now, i'm not sure but i think maybe some or all of them still needs a few weeks maybe, one or two of them look ready to go even though the top part is not completely taken by the myco ... any thoughts on this ? would love to start them soon but i'll do what needs to be done ... let's see what happens, theoretically I can probably trigger and birth the less taken ones and start spraying and praying? let me know ! 🚀
so i had totally forgot about these guys in my closet for like 2 and a half months... uhmm... i think they're ready to be fruited, so let's go and fruit some penis envy and make it fat . I'm actually really looking forward to it, it goes so fast, so i'm putting them out tomorrow, i wouldnt be surprised if i get pins by the end of the week, after that it's successive flushes and i'll try to take some prints and keep expanding the liquid culture... hmmm i knew i was forgetting something ! anyway let me know if you've done this before i think i'll do some smart proteins as a spray during the start and see how the material settles on the medium. Who knows?
turns out wet mushrooms are legal and dry mushrooms are not. if you make them into powder and put the powder inside caps, that's the same thing as producing heroine by law ... so kinda nonsensical because i dont really think i did anything wrong. Plus i dont share. please dont send me them pigs ACABoofers . gonna spend a lovely afternoon walking in the woods with the wife. How is that meant to be so wrong? anyway, hope everyone enjoys themselves in life. that's all folks !
Hehe @CRiSPrGrow I used to do that. Ordered from wholecelium.com the strongest alien one. It will be nice and then you can repeat more times 2 or 3 times. Good Luck mate! And when you eat dont forget 1g dried equal 10g wet. If you take less you will laugh but if you take a lot you will meet with Jesus. 🤷♂️😂 Enjoy mate!
@Ferenc, hahahaha i hope you follow it man, because it think it's the same ones ... i wanted to make spore prints but the caps dont really open up fully so...... it's gonna be tough to make slides for the microscope...
@CRiSPrGrow, 100% agreed! The shroom, ginger, lemon, honey combo I swear by. I put all my friends on it after I was tripping w a buddy and it was his first time and he insisted on eating them instead and he threw up half an hour in and didn’t trip at all. What a waste.
@YoungSmoke, call me crazy but vomiting all over the place just isnt my idea of how a trip should start 😅 the aya crew is big on "the purge", not me though, i'll take my psychedelics without violent bouts of queasiness please🙏
Is that trippy mushrooms? In Scotland they grow in the wild, I get them in my garden every year! My dad was a hippie so I used to go out as a child looking for them 😂 I took them once and vomited everywhere for hours and started thinking the bathroom walls were coming in on me haha talk about bad trip, never again 😂 I’ll stick to weed 😂
@GanjagrowingGal, lol that does sound awful, if i'm eating them , i'll have them fresh, never more than 10gs at a time (1g dry equivalent) , any more than that is too much for my comfort lol folks will have four or five times that and meet jesus in person , come back all shook lmfao
Is there some kind of odour when you're growing these? If so what exactly does it smell like? I did shrooms a couple times and tons of acid about 25 to 30 years ago so I'm familiar with the effects :P I'd probably have a heart attack or some other health problem if I did them now!
@Jwjoh, never quickly enough though : what i learned is that mushrooms need RH 99 and fresh air to grow so be ready to spray and fan multiple times daily ... actually you dont need light at all beyond "a trigger" ... so growth rate is a function of how humid you can keep it before the mushrooms start , then you got to keep it 80-90 RH otherwise the mushrooms dont grow right.
@CRiSPrGrow,as well as the rest of the marija .... for all my life I paid for a product that made with your own hands ... and a whole other fucking bro story.
I regret having started only now, I hope to become good at rendering techniques like you, I am doing some culture but at the moment I am very clumsy
@PEAKYPLANTERS, ha, yeah man in europe it's free to access for sure, you can even get fresh ones delivered. i almost got a 2.5 kg "family pack" delivered once 😂 like just for the jokes and experience of it... check out the @zami_official zamnesia.com website... you can even get cactus there , ayahuasca , absinthe , all the wierd ethnobotany stuff, it's actually pretty impressive and for sure one of the things i'll miss about europe . this is the kind of thing once you do it yourself you never buy it ever again
It's been several years since I've grown them but after inoculation my cakes I left her in the dark until the entire substrate was colonized and started to pin it took a few weeks then put them in indirect light. Just my 2-cents.
@CRiSPrGrow, I did the PF Tek with vermiculite and organic brown rice flour. I just bought some organic brown rice and ran it through a coffee grinder until it was like dust. Then I use Kerr short wide jars they are kind of tapered so the cakes came out easy. I just used a clear sweater box with a couple of inches of perlite saturated with distilled water and a small amount of hydrogen peroxide then sat my cakes on shallow yogurt tops sprinkled with a bit of damp vermiculite on top of the perlite. Then used a rubber weather seal on the top edge I only needed to mist them a couple of time a day. I got around three flushes of shrooms it works out pretty good. I've seen some guy using rye berries or even f-in birdseed to grow them. I'm down in Florida so most people just go out in the cow pastures a couple of days after it rains then pick fresh not really a market for them down here.
@Philindicus, actually just a pre made kit from @zami_official and a $50 microscope ... i got discount lab stuff lol : stains for the slides and a basic scalple and petri dishes for the agat ... havent even bothered doing my pf tek yet doing it tomorrow
@CRiSPrGrow, It looks like you have some professional scientific grade products your using. When I did it I was sent syringes preloaded with spore print material in sterilized distilled water. All I had to do was sterilize the needle tip then inject my cakes. It was very low tech.
@MaryJaneUSA, oui ce sont des psylocibe cubensis McKenaii qu'il fait pousser en PF-tek. C'est a dire qu'il constitue un substrat dans lequel il a inoculé dans les conditions les plus stérile possible, des spores de psylocibe cubensis de la variété Mc Kenaii et qu'il a ensuite laisser incuber jusqu'à l'apparition du mycélium (mousse blanche donnant naissance aux champignons) que l'ont fait fructifier une fois mis sous cloche dans l'atmosphère idéale.
never tried to grow these before.
But we used to grind up about a gram, mix with melted choc
and put into little molds. Took a trip without leaving the farm(so to speak)
Masked the taste pretty well.
Getting to old for those anyways, I will stick to some good herb😎
Later Grow Big!!
@northernMike, hey hey hey, never say too old, you'd be surprised how much more you enjoy them now that you have that experiential vantage point from all those years ! enjoy !
Hahaha holy shit! 0 to 100 real quick 😅
Not sure how to comment on this positively without my mind going into the gutter haha
Never dabbled in this side of growing, but that looks like a few good times popping up 😂