+2 strainsOzeolacommentedweek 185 years ago
Looks great! How do you like your mars sp250?
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Room Type
Topping
weeks 5
LST
weeks 6-7, 10
ScrOG
weeks 7-10
Defoliation
weeks 7-13
20 L
Pot Size
2 L
Watering
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CBD plant on the right - after the canopy was cut
First harvest of the canopy tops
canopy buds
CBD plant on the right - after the canopy was cut
First harvest of the canopy tops
Grow Conditions
Week 18
Flowering
75
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12 hrs
Light Schedule
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Water
1 ml/l
The week ends Sunday Mar-15, being day 75 - week 10 of flowering since flipping the lights / day 59 since from first pistils shown. The strain is expected to flower 55-60 days.
Harvested the plant in 2 stages over a week. It was lots of trimming work with incredible scents throughout the area - beautiful buds to manicure. Lower buds got exposed to more light and hopefully ripened a little further over a week. All remaining buds were harvested after the week, separated into A grade and B grade trim/larf buds. Much of the undergrowth (below the canopy) was not ready yet or just very fluffy. Not sure any more time would have made a significant difference in the yield. Could have given them another week or two but patience is a hard game :)
Each harvest was done after the dark period. Leaves were all still green even though it was watered with no nutrients for over 10 days in total.
Maintained daily fertigation at lights on - watering 2L per day - no pH adjustments.
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The grow setup includes;
- Secret Jardin DS120W tent (120cm x 60cm x 180cm) placed inside the bedroom. Passive & active intake of air is from a closed off section of the room where the central heating boiler sits - the intake is warm air (20 degC.) and fairly dry (40% RH) during the winter months.
- Mars Hydro SP250 LED light
- extraction fan - AC Infinity Cloudline T6
- ventilation fans
- aquarium heater
- small oil heater
- small dehumidifier
- 20L Airpots and 3.5L general pots for seedling stage
- Canna Coco substrate and nutrients
- GHE Flora trio nutrients
- pH and EC/TDS meters
- 2x Govee Thermo/Hygro meters (one at canopy the other at the roots level)
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Grow Questions
HazeyBobbystarted grow question 5 years ago
First time using Coco (Canna Prof), since seedlings the leaves are deformed and exhibit over-watering symptoms. In 3.5L pots with white healthy roots showing from below. Water (with nutrients) every 2-3 days. Could someone suggest where my problem focus should be?
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CRiSPrGrowanswered grow question 5 years ago
hey there Hazey bobby, you're right about the symptoms but i can tell you already know it's not that simple... dont worry , very simple to fix. So in coco you need nutrients, micro nutrients, and because the medium is sterile, you need something to break down the nutrients and micro for the plant which normally in soil would be done by bacterial life. So you need what's called a chelation agent, for example : enzymes, humic acid, beneficial bacteria, or even diluted H202 0.3% max. add that to every watering and you'll see your plant perk up almost instantly. Hope this helps ! ๐
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Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 45 years ago
https://www.growweedeasy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/cannabis-plant-problem-flowchart.jpg
drooping leaves can have alot of causes. because you know your actions just floow the flowchart to get the answer.
and btw... coco friendly nutrients contain enzymes to break down the nutrients for the plant dont worry
On the same website is a very good tutorial for groiwng in coco coir... one think as first.. coc should never run dry...greetings and happy growing
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, thanks heaps for the feedback. I did read Canna Coco Pro comes pre-buffered and the Canna Coco (A&B) nutrients should work well. And I did add enzymes in the last feed. I'm going through the flowchart - it's a great website for info.
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JinksyGrowscommentedweek 185 years ago
Hell yes. Great pull and stellar buds man. Fantastic work๐. I'll be looking into those trimmers. I don't mind mine, but they get gummed up so easily and the spring keeps binding๐. Thanks for the links fella.
Cheers. And again, congrats๐
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JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@HazeyBobby, Haha. Surplus is never a bad thing๐. You do oil concentrates at all (solvent free)? I wasn't an oil guy and didn't think it would do good by me and/or be a waste of product...but Holy crap, I'm on board now. Harvested and milled enough for 1.25 liters ๐
. Hahaha. Give her a shot for poops and giggles!?
And I really feel I see your project in my head, but I'm definitely going to need you to show us, hahaha. It sounds very interesting. This will kinda look like tomatoes growing on a vertical trellis (net) w/ the light pointing from the side not from the top? Regardless! Sounds cool man. Best of luck soaking those new seeds!!!!๐๐
Edit: I'm dumb. I see you already said you have 2 ounce for concentrates! Nvm!!
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, next is a creative grow... an experiment to LST a vertical ScrOG with my light placed on the side horizontally. Will most likely grow OG Kush ... I'm holding myself back from another Strawberry Lemonade as it's yielded so much and I'll have a problem with overstock... I'm already good for a couple of years with this crop's harvest :)
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JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@HazeyBobby, SO! What's next on the menu Bobby? Have a grow lined up or taking a short break? Sorry if you already mentioned this somewhere else! ๐ฆ
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MovingOncommentedweek 185 years ago
Congrats on your placement ๐
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@MovingOn, great to hear ๐ all for sharing ideas, methods and results :)
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MovingOncommented5 years ago
@HazeyBobby, being detailed goes a long way. Keep it up! The more we all help each other, the better it is for the community, and I think the judges do take that into consideration.
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@MovingOn, thank you very much - didn't expect that one :)
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Resin_Randycommentedweek 185 years ago
Nice Job ๐๐๐ผ
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@@Resin_Randy, cheers mate. Pretty stocked :)
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Ozeolacommentedweek 185 years ago
Looks great! How do you like your mars sp250?
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@Ozeola, I love the light. It's my first LED light and I spent a lot of time researching many options around this price mark and for 4'x2' tent. It's very bright, minimal heat and a solid form factor. Check out this review - fairly comprehensive - www.youtube.com/watch
Hope it helps.
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JinksyGrowscommentedweek 185 years ago
Right on Bobby. Beauty yeild and great bud๐. We were harvesting buddies this week. Neato. Haha๐
Enjoy! And I await the final review๐
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, yeah very cool to be harvesting at the same time! the Strawberry Lemonade plant (the other one in my tent) has now sprawled over and is looking like a monster ... pity harvesting is such a one-off event :) by the way just to share - I used these Japanese scissors for manicuring and they made a world of difference to the experience :)
https://www.amazon.com/Chikamasa-Stainless-Scissors-Fluorine-Resin-resistant/dp/B00JSYB9I6
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MrRaidcommentedweek 175 years ago
Damn shes big good work
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@MrRaid, thanks heaps! just chopped her canopy layer off and wow! the smell during trimming!!! whilst I was disappointed with the size of buds I really won't be complaining about the yield :)
And to your point... it may be a little too big for that space and light. Next grow I'm going to try mainlining and do a full lollipop.
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northernMikecommentedweek 175 years ago
๐๐
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CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 45 years ago
hey there growmie, hope i answered your question anything else you need just let me know ๐
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CRiSPrGrowcommented5 years ago
@HazeyBobby, yeah man & since you waited so long to start adding you'll really see it pick up steam now
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@CRiSPrGrow, just as an update - the plants are recovering well after the first feed/water with the enzymes. I have also stablised the temp and humidity in the grow tent as this was in wild swings. Thanks again.
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CRiSPrGrowcommented5 years ago
@HazeyBobby, cannazym is perfect, just wait till the medium dries out then start adding it, it will fix the leaf curlings etc
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Daviduhhcommentedweek 175 years ago
I love the look of that flower. It looks delicious too. ๐คค
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@Daviduhh, I found the right tools make a huge difference alongside harvesting in stages (e.g. tops first then 10 days later the lower layers). I suffered the same last year with the trimming but it's been a very different experience with this crop. I've linked the two tools I use. Also think the strain itself makes a difference based on its flower structures. I wet trim all the fan leaves immediately then after 1-2 days of starting the drying process (buds hung) I do the trimming and manicuring over 1-2 days. Music always helps :)
https://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-HGPP400C-Precision-Curved-Pruner/dp/B005449D3W (just great for initial trim)
https://www.amazon.com/Chikamasa-Stainless-Scissors-Fluorine-Resin-resistant/dp/B00JSYB9I6 (a must have for final manicure)
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Daviduhhcommented5 years ago
@HazeyBobby, unfortunately, the chop is my least favorite part of the growing process. It takes foreveeer to trim. Do you do wet trimming or dry trimming?
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@Daviduhh, yeah it's a special one ... chop chop in a few hours so can't wait :)
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Philindicuscommentedweek 45 years ago
Are you using nutrients every time you water? It looks like you may be possibly underfeeding them. You should use Cannas feeding chart. While it's hard to over water using coco coir it does happen especially if they are started in too large of a pot. While the top of the pot seems dry the bottom of the pot stays too wet until you have enough roots to fill the pot. If you've been using "plain water" on them with no nutrients you may have disrupted the cal/mag balance of the coco coir and it's stealing cal/mag out of your nutrient feedings. You are dealing with large day night temperature swings this could cause some nutrient absorption issues. Maintaining higher humidity levels during the daytime in the 55% + range could help keep her stoma open to absorb more Co2 which is needed for photosythesis.
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@Philindicus, OK - understood. I'm was adding half dosage of the BAC CalMag but will stop it from today and observe the plants for coming week. Great info - thank you!
I have added more photos in latest week from yesterday after topping.
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Philindicuscommented5 years ago
@HazeyBobby, It's hard to tell in your photos. If the lowest leaves that are turning yellow have reddish stems it's usually a sign of lack of nitrogen. Using too much Calcium and magnesium can cause issues locking out potassium absorption. Excesses of all three can actually all lockout each other. So too much calcium will lockout magnesium and potassium. Too much magnesium will lockout calcium and potassium. Too much potassium will lock out calcium and magnesium. Typically 4 parts potassium to 2 parts calcium to 1 part magnesium needs to be used to keep some type of balance between them. Canna Coco nutrients should already have extra calcium and magnesium in it. It's possible your other cal/mag product may be causing issues from what I can find on the internet bac cal/mag seems to have more magnesium than calcium. If that's the case you have excess magnesium locking out calcium and potassium. Some times it's not a good idea to mix different brands of nutrients. If you shoot canna a message they will probably repeat everything I've just mentioned.
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@Philindicus, I use nutrients every time I water and have started daily fertigation. I have used the Canna coco feeding chart as a template with 'Light Feeding' option - found the EC levels high at 1.8-2 so I reduced my numbers. I will be increasing the strength this coming week as per my schedule. I'm also about to hopefully fix my temp & humidity issues. And yes, the pot was too big for the seedling - good lesson learnt.
Thanks heaps for the feedback and advise, much appreciated.
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JinksyGrowscommentedweek 105 years ago
Clean defo, strong, massive & healthy stems/stocks, beautiful green leaves, great form and great shape. What more could you literally ask for in a grow? Fantastic work. Very happy to see your success with all the girls.
Cheers and continued success๐๐
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JinksyGrowscommented5 years ago
@HazeyBobby, No worries at all. And we all need a little bit of/get a bit of luck here and there, but but in the end it's really all you man๐. If you ask me, it will only get better and better๐. Keep it up!
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, thanks heaps for the feedback. This has been a lucky crop - my last one was ... something.
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MaryJaneUSAcommentedweek 185 years ago
Congrats mate!
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@MaryJaneUSA, thanks heaps .. good motivation booster ๐
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Mrs_Larimarcommentedweek 185 years ago
Congratulations for Cupwinning Diary.. well deserved
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@Mrs_Larimar, thank you so much for the congrats ... gives a boost to inspiration :)
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Ace13commentedweek 185 years ago
Congratulations! Looks amazing!
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@Ace13, thanks heaps! the jars are still smelling amazing :) and such a good high/vibes.
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JinksyGrowscommentedweek 165 years ago
Great looking forest of bud๐. Doing a hell of a job. Continued success this week with them, Bobby.
Cheers and happy growsโบ๏ธ
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@JinksyGrows, thanks mate. Constantly doubting 'something' that could be improved :)
Good to see you enjoying your grows too.
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Philindicuscommentedweek 165 years ago
Looks great. With CBD strains do they recommend taking them during the end of the harvest window to maximize cbd content? I read some conflicting recommendations regarding this part of growing cbd strains.
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@Philindicus, thanks for the info - always good! I'm going to harvest the tops first then allow the lower sites to ripen over another week as needed. Will start to read some info on CBD strains and harvesting - I don't have any experience. And hoping to make oil out of this harvest :)
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MrRaidcommentedweek 145 years ago
Looks great bro
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@MrRaid, thanks! I'm slightly disappointed with the bud size development and hopefully the change in nutrients line from Canna to GHE will address that in future grows. I think the plants got too much nitrogen whilst flowering as Canna uses the same mix (A&B) throughout a grow.
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MrRaidcommentedweek 135 years ago
Very talented grower love the shape you have created gonna yeild good ๐๐
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@MrRaid, thank you ... good lessons learnt throughout this grow... and now it's patience :)
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CRiSPrGrowcommentedweek 125 years ago
great work man, i would up the cal mag though, just go for it until the flush no problem. Very cool to see the progress like this. ๐
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HazeyBobbycommented5 years ago
@CRiSPrGrow, thanks heaps for the note. I just posted a question on my Straw.Lem. plant which is in the same crop/grow space as I'm very worried about the bud development for this stage of flowering. Your feedback would be valuable and I will look to increase the cal/mag from the next feed.
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