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weeks 5, 8-9
ScrOG
weeks 5-8, 8-14
Topping
weeks 3-4, 8
HST
weeks 8-9
140 l
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Grow Conditions
Week 7
Flowering
35.001
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inch
Height
12 hrs
Light Schedule
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Nutrients
ml/l
ml/gal
tsp/gal
Potassium Silica
0.5 ml/l
Fulvic Acid
0.5 ml/l
Seasol
0.2 ml/l
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Mospeada Mospeada
5 years ago
22/03: Going to have to do another res change this week as I've lost control of the feed. Today was the first day since I started this grow that plain RO water was added because the ppm was getting too high 800+. Anyways beginning of week 3 flower. Plants are still nice and stocky but this is where the biggest stretch occurs so I'll have to stay on top of it. Redid the ventilation again, Ive redone it fifty times in my grow life and still can't seem to find that perfect balance/setup 23/03: Plants are going through a major stall...It's like they're getting back at me after I tried to overfeed them. Second day in a row I haven't given the plants a feed. PPM is down to 584 which is a big improvement from 800+. I'm tempted to start over, however; the ratios are still the same as I've only been adding RO water. This is a super important time on the grow, beginning of week 3 flower. I'm going to keep pushing them on the kelp and P for lateral growth and bud sites respectively, then I'll flush and start planning for the finishing feed formula. Got my grow room dialled in perfectly after countless redesigns. When lights turn on the plants don't bat an eye lid an go straight into photosynthesis. I assume this on the fact that my CO2 doesn't spike with lights on meaning they don't go into respiration at the begging because of the heat spike. Moving the water chillers to outside the grow room was also a massive factor. 24/03: Plants haven't picked up much yet, still only drinking what they were two weeks ago. However, really happy that they haven't gotten away from me yet. This is the tightest Ive kept my internodes and apart from a several sick leaves I took off, there has been no pruning of defol since this grow started. 25/03: Ended up replacing the scrog with the large square nylons. Ppm won't go down. Giving up on trying to push the plants and will start under feeding again. 26/03: Flushed the plants and did the res change. Base ppm is at 450 without Ca supplementation. 27/03: Feed is back under control, haven't given it another feed since yesterday but starting ppm is back down to 440. Did a massive supercrop, everything above second trellis was snapped and tucked. They want to stretch badly so hopefully this will put a stop to that for a few days. 28/03: Plants bounced back after a day and stretched a bit.
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Grow Questions
Mospeada
Mospeadastarted grow question 5 years ago
Just found out I need sulphuric acid to dissolve Sulphate of Potash so it's water soluble (unless someone knows a better way?). Anyone know the formula for how much sulphuric acid I need and what the process is?
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Mospeadaanswered grow question 5 years ago
So far, what I've found is this. Usually, when metals react with certain dilute acids, they form their respective salts along with hydrogen gas and sometimes other by products. In the case of potassium when it reacts with dilute sulphuric acid, the salt of potassium sulphate is formed in addition to hydrogen gas. 2K + H2SO4 = K2SO4 + H2 This is the reaction formula. So I guess I just need to research hydrogen and if it as a byproduct is anything to be concerned about.
Mospeada
Mospeadastarted grow question 5 years ago
Making my own bloom booster, aiming for a 0-10-10 ratio. I use powders and know that 1 tsp = 5ml. If make up a 1 litre solution, to achieve 0-10-10 would that mean 980ml of water 2 tsp of mono-ammonium phosphate 2 tsp of potassium sulphate?
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Mospeadaanswered grow question 5 years ago
I'm using phosphoric acid to pH down but might switch to citric acid, I'm noticing the amino acids I use have been bringing the pH down bit by bit but I need something to lower the it after silica. I could switch to using a silica dioxide but I heard citric acid doesn't stay stable or gets eaten up or something; so it'll be good enough to keep my pH down as not to cloud my solution when I'm mixing it. Yeah the purple stems are a dead give away but the P deficiency happened in veg, I'm working it back up right now. In regards to the Yucca I use it for the Saponins it contains (wetting agents), it's an aim on this grow to have as little to no salt build up and the Saponins assist in this. I don't know how I can really determine it's effectiveness for that particular use. All I know is my solution is stable and I literally add a pinch so the bag I got will last me for years...if it doesn't go out of date before then. It's a bit hard to compare grows as hydro and soil are really different. Anyways, I'm going to attempt making the concentrate tomorrow. Good luck and happy growing :)
Mospeada
Mospeadastarted grow question 5 years ago
It's been quite difficult finding what range cannabis Brix can be. I just took my first reading with a simple refractometer. 6.5%. It doesn't seem very high but tomatoes are usually between 3.5-5.5. Has anyone done their own plants?
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Mospeada
Mospeadaanswered grow question 5 years ago
I'm using the Brix count to determine how effective the extra Calcium I'm giving the plants is. There are many flow on effects to increasing calcium uptake...one of them is increased Brix. Would love for someone to show there results so I at least have a basis for comparison.
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DeadwebsiteBoringcommunityanswered grow question 5 years ago
Tomatoes are not even in the same family of plants as Cannabis plants.. People say tomatoes because they can look a like when younger.. This is where the "growing tomatoes" phrase comes from.. Your not growing tomatoes your growing Cannabis.
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Jef79
Jef79answered grow question 5 years ago
Hello.. Hope you are well.. Very impressed with your work.. Well done n keep it up.. As to ur question.. All i know is the brix is a type of plant sugar that will help improve taste and unsure if it helps assimilation with other micro/macro's.. Im sure if ur saying tomato go between 3.3-5.5 id aim at low end on this grow then go higher end on nxt crop of gelato if possible then u'll know for sure of any difference in taste or oil production.. Hope all goes well n look forward to seeing ur end results.. Stay safe n gud luck on the research.. If i see anything related i will pass on info.. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ€
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Harrythehat
Harrythehatweek 5
Glad you know what you are doing, have always used a ready mixed havn't had time to study the intricacies of nutrient making I do 7 ml per litre self PH ing Ionic nutrient gives around 2.0 E.C. job done sweet asa nut. nice set up BTW 1200 watt lights how much electric do they actually use?
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@Mospeada, was about to say have 2 x 600 hps over 8 x 4 area but that does not compare to 1200 of led for sure is that 1200 watts of actual electric or 1200 watts led cant wait for spyders too arrive have 800 watt giving 1600 watts for 8 foot x 4
Mospeada
Mospeada
@Harrythehat, Cheers, it's actually 1200 watts of true power, so a bit of overkill for a 4 x 8.
Coughy
Coughyweek 10
Are you running a Co2 tank or bags?
Mospeada
Mospeada
@Coughy, Can miss these comments sometimes....Yeah Co2 bags but I'll be switching to a burner for more control. They work well enough imo though.
StoneyMelony
StoneyMelonyweek 12
Nice, looks great !๐Ÿ˜‹
Ferenc
Ferencweek 8
Nice one! @Mospeada
GRow_M8s
GRow_M8sweek 9
This canopy is beautiful m8. Well done! ๐Ÿ‘Œ
Resin_Randy
Resin_Randyweek 7
Very nice ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿผ
raptor65
raptor65week 3
Looking great ๐Ÿ˜Ž, All the best in your grow ,and having a great harvest ๐Ÿ™, good luck ๐Ÿ‘
grower_not_shower
grower_not_showerweek 14
I think you harvested too early, and it shows in the yield. With that setup and those QBs, you should get to 2.0-2.5 g/watt. You are at 1.3g/watt and the gentics of the plants look quite good. Next time, try living them another 2-3 weeks. The harvest time given by the seed breeder is 99% of the time bullshit to help sell the seeds.
Mospeada
Mospeadaweek 8
Thank's guys. Also, I realise I'm doing some scary things on my grow, thanks for taking the wait n see approach, cause even I don't know if I'm headed for trouble yet.