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weeks 5, 8-9
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weeks 5-8, 8-14
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weeks 3-4, 8
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weeks 8-9
140 L
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Week 8
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Potassium Silica
0.5 ml/l
Fulvic Acid
0.5 ml/l
Seasol
0.2 ml/l
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Mospeada Mospeada
5 years ago
29/03 Beginning of week four flower. Everything has been going well and week 3 was really involved. I'm glad I'm keeping a much better record of my grow this time round, it will definitely help me improve on my next grow. My previous grow I started keeping good records around this time of flowering, so I should be able to make better comparisons and find areas of concern/improvement easier. After a full day and a half the canopy is back to the stretch again. I plan to put the third scrog down. Previous plants grew to a meter on the last grow. I'd rather they end up 2/3 that if it means fully stacked colas...will see soon. 30/03 I believe I am winning against the stretch. Although they have 6 days to go, I don't believe they'll grow over a meter like last time. Third scrog just went down today too. The height isn't really the issue but maintaining the current stacking that the plants have. In regards to the feed they just won't eat anymore than the base I've found for them. It's only the beginning of week four though and I should see the plant consume higher amounts of Potassium in the last half of flower. 31/03 Not much change in the plants for a day...Feels like this is the first time that's happened since I transplanted into the flower tent. 1/04 The one day holiday is over. Plants are back to drinking stupid amounts. They look strong they look healthy but I may have gone a bit too overboard keeping them short. By the end of week 4 on my last grow the plants hit 1 meter. I stopped training the plants two days ago but not much vertical growth since. Haven't opened up the tent yet but I'm hoping to see an inch of growth when I do. The last two days the smell has come out of nowhere to seep it's way through my apartment and 3 flights of stairs. 2/04 Was a good day...I'm happy with how they're coming along. Compared to my last grow it's like night and day. I'm back to underfeeding. Third grow in a row I have tried to push my plants at this point of the grow and third time they have pushed back. Keeping the base ppm at 350. Did a complete leaf strip of all the unhealthy leaves. 3/04 Been tracing the top colas back to their joints...it's amazing how much fight some of those lower branches give. In the photos above I have an example of a branch that most growers would've lopped off seeing it as one of those "sucker" branches. The mould resistance of these plants is off the charts considering I'm not using any kind of fungicide. Those water droplets have been on the leaves the entire time with not a single leaf succumbing to any kind of damage.
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Grow Questions
Mospeada
Mospeadastarted grow question 5 years ago
Just found out I need sulphuric acid to dissolve Sulphate of Potash so it's water soluble (unless someone knows a better way?). Anyone know the formula for how much sulphuric acid I need and what the process is?
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Mospeadaanswered grow question 5 years ago
So far, what I've found is this. Usually, when metals react with certain dilute acids, they form their respective salts along with hydrogen gas and sometimes other by products. In the case of potassium when it reacts with dilute sulphuric acid, the salt of potassium sulphate is formed in addition to hydrogen gas. 2K + H2SO4 = K2SO4 + H2 This is the reaction formula. So I guess I just need to research hydrogen and if it as a byproduct is anything to be concerned about.
Mospeada
Mospeadastarted grow question 5 years ago
Making my own bloom booster, aiming for a 0-10-10 ratio. I use powders and know that 1 tsp = 5ml. If make up a 1 litre solution, to achieve 0-10-10 would that mean 980ml of water 2 tsp of mono-ammonium phosphate 2 tsp of potassium sulphate?
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Mospeada
Mospeadaanswered grow question 5 years ago
I'm using phosphoric acid to pH down but might switch to citric acid, I'm noticing the amino acids I use have been bringing the pH down bit by bit but I need something to lower the it after silica. I could switch to using a silica dioxide but I heard citric acid doesn't stay stable or gets eaten up or something; so it'll be good enough to keep my pH down as not to cloud my solution when I'm mixing it. Yeah the purple stems are a dead give away but the P deficiency happened in veg, I'm working it back up right now. In regards to the Yucca I use it for the Saponins it contains (wetting agents), it's an aim on this grow to have as little to no salt build up and the Saponins assist in this. I don't know how I can really determine it's effectiveness for that particular use. All I know is my solution is stable and I literally add a pinch so the bag I got will last me for years...if it doesn't go out of date before then. It's a bit hard to compare grows as hydro and soil are really different. Anyways, I'm going to attempt making the concentrate tomorrow. Good luck and happy growing :)
Mospeada
Mospeadastarted grow question 5 years ago
It's been quite difficult finding what range cannabis Brix can be. I just took my first reading with a simple refractometer. 6.5%. It doesn't seem very high but tomatoes are usually between 3.5-5.5. Has anyone done their own plants?
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Mospeada
Mospeadaanswered grow question 5 years ago
I'm using the Brix count to determine how effective the extra Calcium I'm giving the plants is. There are many flow on effects to increasing calcium uptake...one of them is increased Brix. Would love for someone to show there results so I at least have a basis for comparison.
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DeadwebsiteBoringcommunityanswered grow question 5 years ago
Tomatoes are not even in the same family of plants as Cannabis plants.. People say tomatoes because they can look a like when younger.. This is where the "growing tomatoes" phrase comes from.. Your not growing tomatoes your growing Cannabis.
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Jef79
Jef79answered grow question 5 years ago
Hello.. Hope you are well.. Very impressed with your work.. Well done n keep it up.. As to ur question.. All i know is the brix is a type of plant sugar that will help improve taste and unsure if it helps assimilation with other micro/macro's.. Im sure if ur saying tomato go between 3.3-5.5 id aim at low end on this grow then go higher end on nxt crop of gelato if possible then u'll know for sure of any difference in taste or oil production.. Hope all goes well n look forward to seeing ur end results.. Stay safe n gud luck on the research.. If i see anything related i will pass on info.. 👍🍀
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Harrythehat
Harrythehatcommentedweek 55 years ago
Glad you know what you are doing, have always used a ready mixed havn't had time to study the intricacies of nutrient making I do 7 ml per litre self PH ing Ionic nutrient gives around 2.0 E.C. job done sweet asa nut. nice set up BTW 1200 watt lights how much electric do they actually use?
Harrythehat
Harrythehatcommented5 years ago
@Mospeada, was about to say have 2 x 600 hps over 8 x 4 area but that does not compare to 1200 of led for sure is that 1200 watts of actual electric or 1200 watts led cant wait for spyders too arrive have 800 watt giving 1600 watts for 8 foot x 4
Mospeada
Mospeadacommented5 years ago
@Harrythehat, Cheers, it's actually 1200 watts of true power, so a bit of overkill for a 4 x 8.
Coughy
Coughycommentedweek 105 years ago
Are you running a Co2 tank or bags?
Mospeada
Mospeadacommented5 years ago
@Coughy, Can miss these comments sometimes....Yeah Co2 bags but I'll be switching to a burner for more control. They work well enough imo though.
StoneyMelony
StoneyMelonycommentedweek 125 years ago
Nice, looks great !😋
Ferenc
Ferenccommentedweek 85 years ago
Nice one! @Mospeada
GRow_M8s
GRow_M8scommentedweek 95 years ago
This canopy is beautiful m8. Well done! 👌
Resin_Randy
Resin_Randycommentedweek 75 years ago
Very nice 🍀👌🏼
raptor65
raptor65commentedweek 35 years ago
Looking great 😎, All the best in your grow ,and having a great harvest 🙏, good luck 👍
grower_not_shower
grower_not_showercommentedweek 144 years ago
I think you harvested too early, and it shows in the yield. With that setup and those QBs, you should get to 2.0-2.5 g/watt. You are at 1.3g/watt and the gentics of the plants look quite good. Next time, try living them another 2-3 weeks. The harvest time given by the seed breeder is 99% of the time bullshit to help sell the seeds.
Mospeada
Mospeadacommentedweek 85 years ago
Thank's guys. Also, I realise I'm doing some scary things on my grow, thanks for taking the wait n see approach, cause even I don't know if I'm headed for trouble yet.