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4 years ago
Starting off this grow with an Optic 1 54w light suspended 12" over the plant, with a glass pot cover over it. Seems to be working out pretty well, as well as insulating the plant from the chillier than normal temps, as opposed to when using the 600w LED as well. With the Optic 1 only air temps are about 7 degrees cooler. 77-70. Also, the Rhizotonic was used as a foliar spray. It was mixed @ 14 ml/gal. Using my 27oz sprayer, that was roughly 2ml of Rhizo/27oz RO water. Day 2 8:13am - Switched plant to bucket w/ RO water and Canna Start (Maufacturers' dosages), and 4 ml Hydroguard. Ppm: 257 pH: 5.75 - added 1 ml Cal/Mag to the foliar spray. Day 3 7:45am - added 4ml (2ml/gal) Cal/Mag to reservoir. Seems I forgot that step in bucket prep. Plant looked no worse for wear. Ppm: 357 pH: 5.85 Day 4 8:00am - switched over to 600w (135 actual) Bestva Reflector series full time. Day 5 3:30pm - switching back and forth between lights, using them to adjust temperature in the tent. It's easier than wrapping the res in ice packs. Day 6 12:00pm - Switched plant over to a "normal" nutrient bucket. (reflected above) Looks to be liking the new nutes. ppm: 830 ph: 5.82 Day 7 (technically Day 8) - Switched plant to new nute bucket, the old one smelled of on coming root. New hoses/airstones, new bucket, and a new find tidbit of info about Bennie's going in after pH balancing. *Dont know why the diary will not save changes to temp that I input. Above temps are wrong. Day/night time air temps - 77-66f, Solution temp - 68-72f.
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Grow Questions
DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmarkstarted grow question 4 years ago
Im using RO water, that being said; how long does one generally wait until upping the nute levels past that of tap water ppm?
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Feeding. Schedule
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gdogfunk
gdogfunkanswered grow question 4 years ago
I have never done DWC before, but I do use RO water for my feed water and since I grow under LED, I always add some Cal-Mag at the very least. I don't think you want to use plain RO for very long, since there's nothing in it for the plant. I would think a mild nutrient solution of 1-2ml/gal would also be a good thing after she develops her first set of true leaves.
DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmarkstarted grow question 4 years ago
I FIMed in week 3, and everything seemed to go swimmingly. I don't know that there was any real slowing of growth. I was worried I had taken too much off. Week 4 comes around, and there is top growth like nothing ever happened. Any ideas?
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Techniques. FIMing
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Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stixanswered grow question 4 years ago
It is hard to tell if you have any tops splitting off with the angle of that last photo but it looks like you may have fimmed the FIM. 😁 I think you may have cut a little high and not hit the main stem. I have tried to fim plants before but it was unpredictable for me. I just went back to the old school topping technique and I am more than happy with the results I get. Good luck with the rest of your grow!
DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmarkstarted grow question 4 years ago
When is the proper time to discontinue LST? I am still spreading and tieing down the tallest shoots, when should I stop, or release the tie down, or should I just keep them tied down the duration? Thanks in advance!
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Techniques. LST
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Wicked_Stix
Wicked_Stixanswered grow question 4 years ago
I continue lst all the way through the flowering stretch. As long as you can spread her out to keep opening up the budsites to light then keep up the training. It will help your yield and quality in the end. And you want to keep her tied down through the entire grow. Just keep an eye on your tie downs periodically and readjust them so they don't grow into the branches as they expand. Looks like you are set up for a nice canopy. Just try to keep them even as she stretches and she will reward you in the end. Good luck!
DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmarkstarted grow question 4 years ago
My question is concerning the use of LST, and it's correlation to longer than usual harvest times. It seems all the growers I follow whom train/defoliate their plants consistently harvest as much as 6 weeks later than what the breeder calls for. Any thoughts?
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Techniques. LST
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TheBudWhisperer
TheBudWhispereranswered grow question 4 years ago
Not silks but I'll lend my own insight anyway; it may well be that those you follow are harvesting later than breeder recommendations BUT it's likely not due to a low stress plant training method. LST generally does not apply any kind of stress to a plant whatsoever - hence the term "light". It does allow for more pronounced branching and growth tip exposure thus, resulting in the plant growing outwards moreso than upwards. Respecting harvest dates in relation to breeder recommendations. It serves the breeders purposes from a marketing perspective to suggest that their strains are ready for chop after X weeks of flowering - the "X" being the shortest amount of weeks they've experienced. That said, I've personally found that breeder suggested flowering weeks are generally understated by about 1-2 weeks on average. It's important to keep in mind that the plants environment and limiting factors such as light type, power, ventilation, indoor, outdoor etc. will play a huge role in determining how long a plant will take to flower. The breeder recommended flowering times are more MINIMUM guidelines rather than a specific time frame written in stone. You also have to be careful here because everyone will start the week count for flowering at different times. I start counting the moment I flip the lights to 12/12 whereas others will only start the flowering week count once they actually see pronounced pistils post-transition. It very much depends and ultimately, the only true judge of the right time to chop will be the grower. This is why I like to refer to picking the right harvest time as more of an art than a specific "time". Hope that answers your question. Cheers.πŸ‘Š
DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmarkstarted grow question 4 years ago
If one is growing in Coco, and using bennies (Mammoth P, Great White), would a flush during transition be detrimental to those colonies, or would it be an irrelevant variable? (Sorry, I have 2 questions just sitting here, might as well use them.)
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Feeding. Other
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RealMedicine
RealMedicineanswered grow question 4 years ago
I always flush a few extra gallons a week before flower. Helps get rid of all the extra salt. I also check my ppm runoff every water. If my ppms get to high I'll add a little more water than usual. Every water should have some runoff.
DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmarkstarted grow question 4 years ago
When should one lollipop an auto? Also, what characteristics would lead to you to think a certain plant is a good subject for lollipopping?
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Techniques. Defoliation
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UmFzbXVz
UmFzbXVzanswered grow question 4 years ago
Short answer: when the plant has fully stretched. The typical answer is ~3 weeks into flower. During this phase, the plant has put out several buds along the stretched-out shoots. Lollipopping involves removing these side-buds from the bottom up, trimming off 1/3 to 2/3 of the plant's bottom mass.
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DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmarkweek 1
I am using R.O. water with Cal/Mag supplementing up to 187 ppm. My question was when to start supplementing, significantly, past this point. Ive heard a week, 2 weeks. Just wondering what the conciseness is. I guess this question could also be broken down to "if you use tap water for seedlings, when do you start to supplement with Nutrients?"
UmFzbXVz
UmFzbXVzweek 4
Ballsy move to FIM an auto!
UmFzbXVz
UmFzbXVz
@DWCbadassquestionmark, The FIM didn't take? Never heard of that, lol. Better not experiment with more HST techniques this late into autoflower veg πŸ˜€
DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmark
@@UmFzbXVz, as it turns out, my FIM didn't take. Here I thought I might have taken too much, and turns out I might not have taken enough. LOL. Oh well, think it's too late to try again, going to stick with LST only from here on out.
DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmark
@@UmFzbXVz,, LOL! I hear you on the mishaps, Ive had me share of mine. Also had my share of calculated risks that seemed to have worked out (see Hydrated Lime, FIM). Kinda flying by the seat of my pants, but to be honest thats kinda how I roll. I could have started in Coco w a 2 part nute regimen, but no. DWC with a shit load of nutes for me. I like to learn by Braille. Also, thanks for all the input. It nice to have some one to converse with about this shit. Im loving the site so far.
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UmFzbXVz
UmFzbXVzweek 7
Not too shabby considering you having to learn the ropes. Good job so far :)
DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmark
@@UmFzbXVz, thanks for the insight. Just making sure my eyes weren't bigger than my tent (?), Shit analogy. Just wanted to make sure I want over extending her. Thanks again for the helpful knowledgeable.
UmFzbXVz
UmFzbXVz
@DWCbadassquestionmark, Regarding the "too many budsites" question, there's really no such thing -- as long as they all get sufficient light. There are videos on youtube from a guy mainlining his single plant into 100+ tops and it worked out super well.
DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmark
@@UmFzbXVz, Thanks! Definitely going to have to run this one again now that I've figured some of the finer details out. But I think it'll be a decent harvest as long as she keeps stretching.
Fast_Buds
Fast_Budsweek 1
Hey there, Thanks so much for running a diary of our genetics πŸ™Œ Let us know if you need any assistance, we’re more than happy to help. Happy Growing !!! πŸŒ±β˜˜οΈπŸŒ΄πŸ€πŸŒΏπŸŒ³
DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmark
@Fast_Buds, Hey there, thanks for the awesome seeds you guys turn out. Just wanted to let you know that there is a question from some about a splotching that seems to appear on the GC strain Im growing. It seems to be affecting more people than just me. If you look under Rasmus's thread you will see the problem documented. Thanks for the help.
UmFzbXVz
UmFzbXVzweek 2
Impatiently waiting for another update to see how the splotching evolves. Mine is still being weird :/ (Will update my diary tomorrow, on feb. 25th)
DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmark
@@UmFzbXVz, I did so as well, and mentioned you and those whove contacted you with the same issues.
UmFzbXVz
UmFzbXVz
@DWCbadassquestionmark, I just posed the issue in their GrowDiaries chat, too :) If they don't answer in a few days, I'll send them an e-mail.
DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmark
@@UmFzbXVz, Interesting. Ill bring this to their attention. Thanks.
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DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmarkweek 1
I have a hypothesis that the splotching is residue left over from my foliar spray. If this is true, does it need to be cleaned off? And if so, any special instructions?
DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmarkweek 1
No signs of any burn or lockout after raising ppm to 357 on day 3. I'm impressed; but I'm green as well.
UmFzbXVz
UmFzbXVzweek 9
Your plant looks super healthy, good sir. However, it does look like it's still in the vegetative phase. You *may* have a rare phenotype without any ruderalis in it (the genetics that ensure auto-flowering capabilities), and if that is the case you need to run 12/12 for it to bloom.
UmFzbXVz
UmFzbXVz
@DWCbadassquestionmark, I found both comments, no worries. Your tent is gonna be packed for sure, but that's all part of the fun!
DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmark
@@UmFzbXVz, thanks for the insight! I was kinda wondering, but not complaining, about why "flowering" was seeming to take so long. Maybe I'll defoliate one last time, and give her sisters a chance be to catch up a bit before I flip her then. Gonna be a monster haul in a couple months with this, Blue Dream'atic, and Cheese finishing around the same time. My tent is going to be packed.
Huggomadd
Huggomaddweek 7
She's going to make tasty udz'... I can sense it. πŸ‘πŸ’š
Huggomadd
Huggomadd
@DWCbadassquestionmark, If at first we don't succeed, we drop another bean (or two or five) That's how we do. Good vibes on your next too. I'll keep an eye out for it 😎
DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmark
@Huggomadd, Thanks man! Im sure hoping you're right. Gonna run this GC over again, just to make sure i get it right. Plus I love this strain.
Huggomadd
Huggomaddweek 3
Sending positive vibes. Good luck bud. She's alive so that's not too bad. She'll perk up guaranteed. Remember too much loving can have an adverse impact. Imo
DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmark
@Huggomadd, thanks! I'm trying to remember that part about too much care...
raptor65
raptor65week 2
Looking great 😎, All the best in your grow ,and having a great harvest πŸ™, good luck πŸ‘
DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmark
@raptor65, Thanks Raptor! +1 Cant wait to see your 3/20 projects start up. Bout to toss another in a rapid rooter later tonight. Good Luck with the upcoming ladies.
Huggomadd
Huggomaddweek 1
Coming along. Don't feel bad about the temperatures resetting. It happened to me as well. Idk why. Been wanting to try out DWC myself. Good luck bud
DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmark
@Huggomadd, thanks for the kind words. TBH, this is my second grow, my FIRST ended in me tossing a 4 week old, barely alive, Critical Purp out with the trash. I had only watched/discussed Coco grows with my friend. DWC is definitely a different animal. But I'm having a great time with it, so it's worth it. Thanks again, and good luck with your little ones as well.
Huggomadd
Huggomaddweek 1
I do know LEDs suck up the Cal.Mag Definitely keep it in your regimen when using RO (reverse osmosis) water. Don't know a ton about dwc... I'd use 2-3ml per. gallon. And maybe PPMs bumped up to 500-650 after the second week, but could depend on her genetics.
DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmark
@Huggomadd, that sounds about right. Just trying to keep her green till then.
illyrian
illyrianweek 1
Good luck bro 🌿🌿
DWCbadassquestionmark
DWCbadassquestionmark
@illyrian, Thanks man. Followed you so I can watch and learn.