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Indoor
Room Type
Topping
weeks 2-3
LST
weeks 3
Defoliation
weeks 7-9
Soil
Grow medium
11 L
Pot Size
0.38 L
Watering
Strain
Northern Lights Autoflower
ILGM
Growing it
Normal
Resistance
Strong
Very small plants without much flower. Pretty sure that growth was hurt by over-watering. Previous grow was coco coir and perlite which of course involved watering very frequently. This is my first grow with soil. No problems regarding pests or disease, though, fortunately.
The Outcome
Week 9
Harvest
What's on the scales?
45
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
Harvested
7
Number of plants harvested
Grow Room
2.32
ft²
Grow Room size
0.1
g / watt
19.37
g / m²
6.43
g / plant
3.01
plant / m²
193.75
watt / m²
Tastes like
Earthy
Pine
Woody
Feels like
50% Sativa 50% Indica

Positive effects

Relaxed
Reviews. Nutrient
No concerns. Grow sucked, I think from my over-watering. I barely used nutrients in part because I just wanted plants to survive and in part because plants were autoflowers grown in soil. I probably should have just not rated nutrients but they've worked well for me in the past. FloraKleen used for the first time and maybe it helped.
I don't know if it helped. Damn scientific method! Didn't have a control to compare. No concerns though so I'll rate 5 stars.
Reviews. Lamp
Light seemed great!
Reviews. Tent
Tent is tent. No problems with it.
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dagwood dagwood
5 years ago
This grow was frustrating but I guess a learning experience and probably some usable flower to eventually enjoy. I think my experience with coco coir/perlite was a big reason I over-watered this soil grow. Also, early on I was so focused on getting Tropf Blumats set up right which I gave up on when plants started looking so bad. I had thought pH issues were one reason for the plants deteriorating. Now, I DON'T think pH was the problem. That reflection is based on what I've read regarding soil grows. Even though my tap water runs quite alkaline/basic the soil seemed to buffer any impact. I tested run-off once and it was fine. I decided to flush with FloraKleen which I think helped even though it kept the soil water-logged. That was when I decided over-watering was the main problem. I let the soil get quite dry and tried to lean toward under-watering from then on. The plants kept progressing through their life cycles but seemed clearly stunted. I initially harvested 5 of the 7 plants. Trichomes were cloudy with a few amber. One of the two plants that I didn't initially harvest had barely any trichomes that I could find although pistils looked right. The other plant didn't look appreciably different than the five I harvested but I'm going to let it go another week or so as a comparison. I haven't weighed the plants yet since I haven't trimmed and have even kept roots attached. The first day or so hanging was in the grow tent which continued the same light schedule and temperatures. I reread harvesting recommendations and figured a different area of the basement that gets little light and would be cooler should work better. I'm going to try to have them dry slowly in that cooler, darker environment. Humidity probably pretty low but I won't try messing with it since that should help prevent mold. My expectation is when ready I'll trim and jar for cure, trying it out just to see how it is but otherwise will cure for at least a few weeks before (hopefully) enjoying. I'll weigh before and after trimming and that'll be the final weight. My estimate is that all 7 plants, bud trimmed in one pile, will yield MAYBE 15-20 grams. Sigh.... We'll see... Dried five of seven plants and trimmed. I only tared the container for the first plant; the others included the 24-gram weight of plastic container. 35 grams total, averaging 7 grams or about a quarter-ounce per plant. Just going to give the last two plants another couple of days to dry before trimming. If average per plant holds that'll be 49 grams or 1 3/4 ounces total harvest. Better than my pessimistic prediction. Clearly growth was hurt from (presumably) over-watering but I also think soil maybe not worthwhile compared to just coco coir / perlite. After this other grow there will likely be a significant break before growing again but will likely then try hydroponics for the first time.... I'll try it out after some more time curing then update smoke qualities.
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Grow Questions
dagwood
dagwoodstarted grow question 5 years ago
That's my guess for now. I was going to use Blumat Tropf hooked up to tap but house water seems too basic. Only way I can think of remedying is to hook Blumat Tropf up to reservoir and make sure the water in it is the appropriate pH. Will that be stable?
Solved
Leaves. Color - Yellow
Setup. Strain - Autoflowering
Feeding. Automatic systems
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Cannapprentice
Cannapprenticeanswered grow question 5 years ago
Making sure you're watering at the right ph is indeed very important. out of range and the plants can't uptake the nutrients. After a few correctly ph'd watering you should see some improvements
dagwood
dagwoodstarted grow question 5 years ago
This question is being asked on day 20 of this autoflower grow. Based on pictures, any advice regarding LST / defoliation? Thoughts/advice overall? Your time and consideration is much appreciated!
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Setup. Strain - Autoflowering
Techniques. LST
Techniques. Defoliation
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Budofpray
Budofprayanswered grow question 5 years ago
Hello buddy... first advice for the futur, keep in mind that more you give lot of informations, better are the possibilities for u to have good answer and better diagnosis. this plant is so complex sometimes that it could be difficult to be precise for a grower to answer you properly. 👍 your nutes schedule for example is strongly recommend to indicate... is your led has a dimmer ? how work your watering system ? solution ? with a pump ? settings ?....etc etc without these elements....it is more a "crystal ball" diagnosis 😏....if i were near you on your tent i could be 100% affirmative...so you told that u keep the pH to a good range ok but.... i noticed some indexs..... are you sure of your pump watering settings ? i mean now they seems droopy.... it could be one raison wich can explain a lot of others. auto's are much more sensistive/fragile to all stresses than photos or regulars ! so too much water, or a soil too much wet all the time can slow down the growth....due to the lack of oxygen in root..... and it is a vicious circle.....😷 😜 cause if you feed her, she will loose habilities to absorb correctly some elements and micro elements and she will go to a lock out process (on your leaves and on others plants in your tent )...etc etc....try to let roots breathe a bit.... in other hand if your led is a 453W (from the wall ?) and you didn't have dimm it correctly of you dont have any dimmer....the right height must be find....to ensure a grow a bit better taller..... branches and main stem need a lot of water to be build 😏... don' t hesitate to mp me if you want to give me more information... lst is a good thing to do a low stress training but u have to be effective on the overall growth of the plant.....to ensure the best yield at the end! i am not an adept of defoliation due to the very specific short cycle of autos (only in the case of fluxing techs)...... especially for the flowering time. the leaves acts as a tank for nitrogen and semi/mobiles nutrients. you have to know that when she starts to flo the plant loose their habilities to properly/ totaly absorb N....and leaves can be a good partner if you dont feed correctly at the veg stage.... a lollipoping is to my point of view the only thing to do to ensure a better concentration of energy on upper buds.... the last advice i can give you if u don't know it already.....is to have a good soil mix ! auto's most of the time have low demands than photos especially in veg stage....u have to cut your light soil for example with coco or perlite or vermiculite....or a mix of tree.....u cut close to 40%.... even 50%..... depend of knowedge of the strain needs....it will ensure you a better penetration of roots and a bigger plant.... when the flow starts go easy with nutes from the beginning to mid flow....after that u can use more pk hope this help 👊 Happy growing buddy
dagwood
dagwoodstarted grow question 5 years ago
My plants are struggling and I’m not sure why! Advice? Please read through my long comments before trying to answer...
Solved
Leaves. Wilting
Plant. Wilting
Setup. Strain - Autoflowering
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mrpink
mrpinkanswered grow question 5 years ago
Your pH is too Deep, ist should be at 6.5-6.8. How are your cal/mag values in the Water without nutritions?
dagwood
dagwoodstarted grow question 5 years ago
Other than today which has unlimited Grow Questions to celebrate 4/20, we have three Grow Questions? Is that per grow diary? Three Open questions at a time or three whether Open or Answered. If only 3 Open then if they're answered do the three open back up even if same diary?
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Other. General questions
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OutForReal
OutForRealanswered grow question 5 years ago
It is 3 per month , you’ll keep 3 questions even if the answer is given during another month
dagwood
dagwoodstarted grow question 5 years ago
Look at these leaves! Help!
Solved
Leaves. Wilting
Plant. Wilting
Setup. Strain - Autoflowering
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Thee_HoffGuyy
Thee_HoffGuyyanswered grow question 5 years ago
Hey dagwood!! first off from what I read above I would at least give them 2 hours or dark a day if not 4 I find to get better results with that. give the plants a lil rest. it also looks to have something to do with your watering system, either it is overwatering. or not enough but I'd lean more to the over watering due to where you said the "lightest" one looked the best. it's good to let them dry out like that before they get another watering. Also looks like a slight nitrogen deficiency nothing much tho so I personally would bump up your base nute just a tid bit like where your running 1.25mL/gal Id go up to 2 or 2.25 and see if that helps if it does not then go just a little more just try not to over do it lol hope this helps Happy Growing an Plentiful Harvests🙏
dagwood
dagwoodstarted grow question 5 years ago
Is flushing the last two weeks something that really affects flavor/quality of harvested flower? Consensus among websites support it as real.... (But plenty of commonly held beliefs such as you shouldn't swim within 30 minutes after eating aren't true.)
Solved
Buds. Other
Other. General questions
Feeding. Schedule
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DeadwebsiteBoringcommunity
DeadwebsiteBoringcommunityanswered grow question 5 years ago
https://www.rxgreentechnologies.com/rxgt_trials/flushing-trial/
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Euphory
Euphorycommentedweek 75 years ago
I hope your ladies will fully recover from that issue you had. Good luck and big buds!
dagwood
dagwoodcommented5 years ago
@Euphory, thanks for the encouragement!
GreenGrows
GreenGrowscommentedweek 44 years ago
Hey i Know this grow is old, But i think i can help u avoid future problems... your VPD (vapor pressure defecit) is really high for all stages. These sites that say lower humidity is good to rule out mold dont take into account plant transpiration at different temp/RH combinations... For example, you could counter the really low humidity by removing more heat and cutting down airflow slightly if conditions are very windy... Cannabis can tolerate dry conditions but only at low temps, it seems you were actually potentially not watering enough since your environmental conditions wick so much moisture out of the air around the plant and the medium... It also seems that you have a lot of perlite, which will further hinder your grow mediums ability to retain moisture. hope this helps
dagwood
dagwoodcommentedweek 25 years ago
If I adjust the pH of the reservoir to 5.8 then will it remain there or drift upwards? Any way to minimize fluctuations?
rhodes68
rhodes68commented5 years ago
@dagwood, If you are using ANY organic like Recharge in the res then yeah its going to change as the organics start playing with each other. Do you use Recharge all the time?