Howdy all and welcome to Week 4, Veg w/ Space Cookies. Decent week. Here's the Deets:
The Good:
-Had a great growth week and SC took off a bit. Still the runt but visibly thickening up and going to be a firm one.
-Went through her first full feed w/ run-off and then cut off her head... Took it surprisingly well and bounced back within a couple hours. Nothing amiss.
-Out of all four, she does seem the healthiest w/ the best leaf/blade color and texture. Pretty happy with her and her progress
The Bad:
-The Bad news is also the good news. The good, I figured out what was causing some of my problems. The bad, I found out what's wrong with my plants and It'll take some time to balance things out. First Run-off reading was a super 5.3pH and 3800ppm. No top side symptoms, but I do have a pH imbalance and I'm going to drop down those ppm's/raise the pH over the next two feedings/watering.
The 'Meh':
-With the plants drooping out 3 hours before bed, I've gotten a little obsessive in trying to figure out WHAT exactly is going on. I only have theories and apparently, theories are all there are... I'll link the short blog/article I found on Nastic movement's and what these proposed theories are. For the most part, though, I'm not sure if this article even applies to indoor parameters, but it's something I guess. Anywho, I learned a tonne of crap trying to find the answer, but nothing gave me that answer. Haha. I learn! but not learn what I needed to know. Catch 22, for sure.
-The drooping will have to just be accepted. It is not hurting anything and has been going on for 2 weeks now. She's growing in spades, no signs of deficiency/toxicity, healthy and perky. It isn't aesthetically pleasing but I really don't see a plant threatening issue anymore. She repeatedly bounces back over night and I've even gone to see what they look like at 4 am when the lights go on....They're' back up even without the light. So, rest after a long day? Normal nastic movements, genetic, my parameters, outdoor weather changes affecting indoor parameter's? I'd like to say I'm going to completely let this go, but that's not how my brain works. I'm going to keep reading, pursue possible solutions and see if this condition can be rectified. I'll reserve my expectations, but I want to see what can, if anything, can be done.
Notes of the Week:
-Did the first feed with run-off with GDPB and PSK. I didn't feel like I ran enough through them to drop my ppm's and raise my pH enough. I adjusted the feed and watering volume with SC and DD and their numbers came back a little better then their counterparts. I will have to do at least two more flush through's w/ nutes, in order to drop one and raise the other, while replacing the nutes I'm washing out. I feel things may be back to normal in a week or two(?). No expectations on the time frame, but I will get them back to happier reads.
-Since nothing I did changed the 7pm droop, I've put back everything the way I know and the way I know works. Plants are much happier and I won't be screwing with their environment (much) anymore. Want them to acclimate after such a long screw around. I have a feeling they don't know what the hell is going on and why things keep changing, hahaha. This'll stop now.
-Instead of upping my 'Grow' formula, I added in some Rapid Start from GHE and that'll be my soluble potash boost I'm looking for. Going to abide by the schedule a bit more and stop screwing around with that too. Again, I want to go back to what I know, for a little bit, just to get them back in good form BEFORE I start to play "scientist".
-All plants have now been topped b/t the 5th and 6th. All, expect PSK took it really well. PSK dipped out and was giving some serious attitude afterwards and took twice as long for her to come back from the stress I inflicted.
-LST is picking up as laterals are punching through all-round. I'm starting to see what I can do with them and even what I feel they should look like by end game. By next weeks update, I'm pretty certain all the girls are going to be twice as big and look like little bubbles (that's the goal, anyway).
-Random note about my soil: Water retention of 3 gallons is 2.75L before run-off. Thought it was a decent number and the loamy mix I threw together seems to be holding and dispersing water very well.
Thanks all for stopping by, it's greatly appreciated. Even though this grow has been a massive pain from the get-go...I have to admit, I'm learning a tonne. If that's the trade off for these problems, I'm cool with that. Also just picked up another hard copy book that deals with the chemical/medicinal uses/reactions and just a whole bunch of biology that I have zero clue about! I took physics in school. In retrospect, biology/chemistry may have paid off a bit more, Lol. Maybe a correspondence/upgrade course? (Now I'm typing aloud). Cheers everyone! Much love and take care of you and yours! Peace, my friends.
**Link for Nastic Movements: https://vanessa-nielsen.com/cannabis-plants-droop/**
Reflection of your Handlings are the best ways to pervent new issues.. well done.
You found your mistakes and thats very good
again a lesson learned,,, and beleive me... more to come^^... hahaha
srtay healthy and have fun with the ladies
@Mrs_Larimar, Haha, thanks for the support! Still learning for sure. Maybe in ten years I'll have a good handle on it๐.
Ohhhhh there will be more issues, I don't doubt that, lol๐ . But with every mistake, I understand more and more.
I hope you have a wonderful week aswell and that you and yours are happy and healthy.๐. Cheers Mrs_Larimar๐
@Mrs_Larimar, I swear, everytime I sit down to write these I tell myself to keep them short. Then 25 min goes by and I've written another novel ๐ .
I guess my definition of short is when my fingers get tired and I stop. Hahaha
I love your comments i was laughing out lout whn you mentrioned, that abiology/chemistry course may would have been better.... and the funniest thing was your " typing aloud"......
I got to admit that iam typing sometimes without real thinking ......and if i read week later my comments .. iam asking myself if i have written this....
Its kinda Intuitive writing.. or maybe iam just he channel for some ____ "weed force"
And no... i am not smoking and writing... its my mind that works that way... I dont need weed for " weired thoughts"
@Mrs_Larimar, Hahaha. I'm glad you got a laugh out of it. I too, was not high when I typed that and we may have the same weird thinking๐ . Not a bad thing at all! When looking back at what we wrote, it does seem foreign and sometimes I think to myself "Where'd that come from...I might be a weirdo". LOL! Cheers Mrs_Larimar!๐
@JinksyGrows, thanks man, quarantine time got us haha but weโre very excited. Iโll definitely throw any info you want your way, spend most my time on forums and reddit.
@DeepRootGrows, omg man! Cool! Congratulations on the new little one๐๐. Thanks for sharing that๐.
And also cool! If you start breeding I'd love to follow along. I've been reading about it too but don't have the space yet. Also need to move, haha. If you have any solid links and info for me to read, please don't hesitate to send me them in PM!!
@JinksyGrows, Iโll be moving to a bigger house the end of this year (got 2nd kiddo baking in the oven) and once I get more room Iโm gonna be getting a bigger tent for more strains and then use my small two I have now to dip my toes in plant breeding. Been doing lots of research lately.
@Mrs_Larimar, Omg๐คญ. Just realized you and @silky_smooth placed too! I wasn't paying attention ๐ . Congrats grow girls!!!! I'm in great company โบ๏ธ๐
I also heard these bags are like 550 for you over there!?! Crazy! 350 CDN for me๐ฌ. Really happy you won. Die happy Silky ๐ ๐
Looking happy and frosty ๐ might need to start building a second cupboard soon ๐
Do you use syringes to extract vol of nutrients directly from each bottle? I'm trying to find an effective manageable way to extract liquids when the bottles are running low ๐
@HazeyBobby, I don't have much going on, so I obsess over the plants ๐ . Going back to work very soon, so I probably won't be able to keep it up. Really not necessary ๐.
@ROM101, No doubt man. I was all panicked and such, but only took 5 days to bounce back this quick. Keep forgetting cannabis is versatile as all hell. And ya, was really happy with all the reviews on green planet. Plus these guys are quite close to me and have hydro shops throughout BC Canada, long before their nutrient lines. Very interesting story and very passionate guys. Farmers love them, and that's a great sign of quality, imo๐. To
I have vitathrive, rezin, liquid weight and massive bloom as additives. Do you suggest any other additions (besides humic acid)?
There are hustlers in any setting. These guys may be proโs pretending to be nubes. Several idโs just pumping up activities. I have no idea what they are after.
Just go with people and things that enrich your life.
Cheers.
@Med_in_Tropic, In a lot of ways I have so much growing up to do. That includes understanding when I'm being used and/or abused. Also don't know how to say "No". That's not working out too well for me, haha!๐ After I wrote that, I see my end in all of this. Wouldn't have happened if I set boundaries, and something I'll need to learn to do asap. I also need to complain less and just go with the flow...
Retrospective thinking is fun!...๐ฌ Thanks for your kind words and advice Med. I'll take it to heart.
I know what you are talking about, if you talk about the Guy who just want s help . but does not implement any advise you give
and its the right decision to say NO.
Dear Jinxy.....not every person is so receptice and reflective as you are------You were a great Student
These Person got a huge EGO but no self esteem..If they say. "I now what I do....."..........I just say: Ok do what you know... Happy growing
@Mrs_Larimar, I probably shouldn't have wrote that when I was mad... I'm much calmer about it now but was just so frustrated and no one to tell, but you folks.
I have let him go now, but I feel so bad for his girls. All twelve he's touched have suffered greatly ๐. I know they're just plants but it hurts to watch.
Unfortunately, this whole thing showed some true colors of my friend... Like Med said, he hustled me, I know that now, but unsure about our relationship. Lol, I'm talking like this is group therapy...๐
Anywho! I'm good. Thank you for your positive affirmations ๐. I will be editing out some "anger" from this entry. I want the message to stand but I'd like to be more civil, lest I stoop to their level
These temperature swings are in Europe too ( could be we live in the same World^^?)
and Master Jinks,,,, ( bow).... very well done... and if you think your setup is ready,,, hahaha believe me you are never ready to change the setup.... but you have now good parameters and your new Light is a Huuuge step).......i can see you setting up another tent^^
,,,,,,,or maybe a growroom
would be the most logic thing
however,,, stay healthy my canadian Growmie
@Mrs_Larimar, Lol, you're right. It'll never be perfect in my mind and I'll keep refining๐ . A grow ROOM would be perfect. If I find a location where they'll allow me to DIY my own set-up, I'd be rockin๐.
You stay healthy too my German friend. And oh ya! Same world, damn weather, hahaha.
@HazeyBobby, Thanks Hazey! Great cola potential for sure๐. Feel she may be the thickest lady by end game. I like her leaves too and hoping for some colors near the end. Fingers crossed๐
@DeepRootGrows, Ha! I'm close! Haha. Thanks man๐. I definitely can't complain. Things are better now then they've been from the beginning ๐. Happy days๐
@Mrs_Larimar, I'm super stoked with how well this is going. I trusted you and glad I did๐. Just like I said in the entry, I'm very comfortable with this now and feel like I have a good handle. Thought it might take weeks, but patience (as you said!) Paid off. Two weeks now, zero problems. Haven't been able to say that once with this grow๐. I'm happy and their happy! Thank you so much!โ
if you look at my face, when i look at the Pictures. You only see me smiling. I only see happy healthy Plants. I hope your Powersupply is going to be stable again-
Iam so happy that girls are sooo fine
@Mrs_Larimar, Thanks so much dudette๐. I think they're smiling too! Your advice was amazing and things are sooo much better! Cheers and Ty very, very much (once again๐).