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Next step in my new perpetual harvest.
Seeds started 12-04-17 germinated 12-07-17
Had a rather rocky start due to heater going out during cold snap, even lights didnt keep them warm enough, bit of wind burn from trying to evap soaked medium despite chill. Lost one, replaced it with a MMG Candida because i'm out, and then the stake got lost! I'll be able to tell by the bud but I'm thinking and hoping shes the big one. Makes sense.
90 degree training as per Nebula; stakes so far, not quite big enough to want to do ties yet but will tie them down clock-dial style.
Using Canna Coco AB with Calmag+Silica at light feed strength. Would still be giving full 7.6ml of Rhizo but I'm running out. Foliar at 8ml A/B 8ml Rhizo (gotta refill will be 3 sadly).
Trimming all of the bottom sucker nodes off each branch while they're young, hoping to have them all tied down by week 8 or whenever my mephistos finish and give them solid flower time in my 400w cob tent.
post-LST stress pics are always gnarly, waiting to see that bounce-back.
Gently as I could; minimal injuries but not zero, too many plants to work on not to lose a node or top or two sadly... must be rushing
ALSO
seriously why cant i add the CBD etc tags to this grow? my other CBD grow is tagged, and I can't be the only one who follows the CBD tag here.
ID'd the candida, removing it from diary. Forgot pic of the 7th Medical Mass during all the training.
Adjusted the ties, before and after pics. I'm pretty satisfied in the vigor, particularly the trunk and branch thickness. These have another like 4 weeks before they will have space in the cob tent -- i am planning on vegging them at least until they stagnate... if not the entire 4 weeks.
These will need some trimming if they're to get much bigger. Even under the cob's penetration -- and even given the flatness of the plant -- some tertiary branches will only be suckers. Any full-on branches that start getting in the way are going to be clones, attempting bonsai mum collection from preferred strain/phenos.
Problem with gauging their eventual size is how unevenly they were potted. Lot of stuff going on, started potting, realized i was low on coco. Some of them only have like 1.25-1.5gal of coir/perlite. Especially given how low they are I have elected that topdressing more coir won't make them grow deeper roots, as roots only grow down.
As long as I can get them to the edge of their pots and then vertical, I should be able to put stuff under the pots that end up shorter and maintain a good canopy. Either way I regret not HSTing the bottom nodes of each cola more vigorously during their youth. These colas could have even larger diameter branches than they do.
((note on pictures))
Front left (closest) is the candida I removed from this diary, next 7 are the Medical Mass the diary is for, i tried to omit the two straggler white widow autos in the back but they peek into a picture or two.
Out of rhizo.
To-Do: LST before/after pics by next week, haven't been up to pulling them all out and working on them. Need to take a few branches that I think will be crowding and try to root them as clones. Need to try to determine what will end up being lollipopped and cut it early. Will keep the other plants out of the photos too =)
Considering re-potting them so that they all have full pots (not sure if i have enough 3 gals to move the 2s into 3s). Was lower on coir than I thought during planting, some only have like 1.25-1.5 gal of coir/perlite.
Got several weeks before the autos in the cob tent finish and I can flip. Don't want to finish under the Mars given that it's my medical; however the autos seem to have real bad trouble finishing on time under my Mars. So everything gets huge and I wait.
I had intended to take another round of before/after LST pics but forgot. These are directly after LST and foliar.
Still planning on letting the "belly" branches (vertical nodes off each cola) get large enough to make viable clones before trimming them out so that it's not so crowded. They're scary crowded, this is literally my densest crop, node-wise.
Got more Rhizo, which is good. This week I have 100% omitted any pictures of the Candida and the two Auto White Widows sharing the tent, as I have converted this into a single strain grow... now that I know which one is the candida =P
Super busy, so blurple cameraphone pics this time -- not missing much, just how less crowded they are. I took like three dozen clones.
The clone guide I was using said "more wet the better" so i think the wilty ones on the right arent going to make it. I have discontinued the humidity dome and cut back on the spritzing, as well as drained the quarter inch of clone solution from the bottom. Hopefully I get *some* viable ones. TBH I have had better results with the powder than the gel, and i've done both big brands of gel now.
One of the babies got inadvertant topped when I found out HOW easily razorblades penetrate plants. It'll be fine.
As per my other diaries, I have ceased feeding daily and am now feeding bidaily using the calculator, my TDS meter, and lifting the pots to avoid the slight overwatering I was doing (even in coir+fabric pots). I still don't have a good setup to test runoff with this many plants, so I'm not watering to runoff. TDS meter before nutes, on tap: 24ppm after: 626. "Light" feed schedule.
I plan on transplanting the ones that need it worse into 3gal pots, as opposed to the half full 2gals theyre in now, within the next couple of days. Once I've let them recover and populate the new pot with roots, I will probably flip them regardless of whether the auto tent is ready. I will probably also move them over to the cobs, as my CBD is my priority.
TBH I'm hoping they do well enough in 3 gallons that I can flower only six of them and keep the candida (not pictured) + one of the Medical Mass in my veg tent for clones. Hence working on my clone tech; I could have cut all of those "belly" nodes as they grew but let them grow out for clone practice.
Bad photos this week, need software that can color-correct them better because dragging them out into full white light is a bit more of a hassle than it would be in most setups. Apologies.
Have been vegging under blue only (160W), have turned on the red half for more vigorous growth before they hit the COBs. I didn't think the red light would help but nebula says "fuck it more watts" basically...
I want them to be as big as the new 3 gallon pots and 317w of full-spectrumlight will get them... before stretching and yielding. Should have turned them on sooner.
The clones died; I didn't think keeping them warm enough would be a problem but it was. Got up to where I needed A/C during the day so I installed our window units... but they make the windows leak so they kept getting cold at night. Will buy a heating mat for the next round, probably with thermostat.
Day 2 of 12/12 -- after 48 hours dark
Had some iron deficiencies, went back to 4ml of calmag (after only two feeds at 2ml). Have begun adding calmag and potassium silicate even in my watering days; they should not produce salts and my low-ppm water is lacking. Assuming the rapid growth depleted them.
They have filled out entirely despite the three dozen upward branches I took. this confirms my suspicions, in my mind. In a crowded, trained situation, taking both upward and downward nodes on the vertical pairs reduces crowding and gives at least the same end result. Those nodes are always so puny anyways.
These are going under the cobs as soon as more of my autos finish -- I will move six of them into the old veg tent for finishing. These plants didn't take up the whole tent before, and that was with 10 plants in it. Figure the extra space and the cob wattage will go to good use on these babies. I haven't made a diary for the candida, but it's fine apart from being the most iron-depleted. Not pictured.
Tied them down again right after flipping, defoliated heavily a couple times. Stretch progressing well. They fill the tent. Last update was a day after flip so this is beginning of week 2 post-12/12. Beginning to wonder how many people count the stretch as "veg".
Apologies for pictures; tremors. I took a bunch lol. Wasn't able to remove non-diary candida it's in the front right of the tent (pics from front left corner)
Final home, under 2x200w Roleadro 400 model Epileds. Going to lower the light to 20".
Continuing to stretch. Need to tighten LST and determine what at the bottom needs to come off. Bit crowded., but cola structure seems a lot more on point this go-around.
Moved calmag down to 2ml. Skipped a feed day and watered instead this week, trying to flush, thus three days in a row 1gal (per tent) pHed water. Rhizo will end after stretch.
Candida has been removed from grow as per single-strain rules; didn't feel like cropping it out without losing the other plant in that shot.
Defoliated, lightly lollipopped these when I tightened their straps. They fill the tent pretty good. Smooth sailing so far.
Lights still raised, will lower them back down gradually.
Took the candida (removed from grow a long time ago) that was in the tent and one of the medical mass to be clone mothers. Stretched the remaining 6 plants out to fill.
Stopped rhizo, started molasses. I don't think the 6 of them (kept one and the candida for mothers) are quite as much yield as i can pull off the tent, but I'm still going for per-plant records considering they're Critical Mass.
Did some watering on feeding days and low quantities of water for flies. Back to normal schedule.
Lights-out phone flash pics came out poorly on this one, so I took some closeups to compensate.
Emergency options in coir for pH pen breakage w/ minimal damage?
I will end up getting a backup, but i bought a $50 nice one off amazon that will be here Monday. I have baby fert (and germing seedlings to use it on as well, sigh) and distilled water.
Brand/type of water? RO?
I use lemon juice and Baking soda in a pinch, using litmus papers will help A LOT if your pen breaks, i always keep some in stock just in case. But in a super pinch you can take soil samples from your plants and add vinegar to one sample and Baking soda to the other (after adding a bit of RO/distilled water to the sample) If the sample with vinegar in it fizzes your soil is to Alkaline, if your sample with Bicarb fizzes your soil is to acidic. If nothing happens that means the pH is close to the pH of the Vinegar or Bicarb. This wont tell you exactly what the pH is, but it will give you an idea of how acidic or alkaline it is. Hope this helped
Good development this week. I'm hopeful on yield since it's only 6 plants, had planted 8 but kept the candida and a mother of these.
About to stop silica. Want to make sure I don't need to use my yoyos.
New A/C, lower daytime temps. Steadier. Able to keep it cooler at 50-55% instead of warmer at 45%. This should be better suited, the cold should help them finish, and the VPD chart says that that's a good percentage.
Starting to grow resin after the initial couple of bulk waves. Hopeful this one still has 2-3 weeks of bulking and growing more dense... or rapidly. Happy with performance thus far, figure they will yield quite well.
Trying to calculate actual flower onset, figuring week 3 of what I have marked "flower" for this harvest -- which actually I just started posting as "flower" when I had turned the light timer.
Branches are bendy, still feeding silica. Intend to discontinue. Been splitting batches of fertilizer with the other tent for half the water a day, trying to keep the gnats under control since the temperatures have risen. Trying to end up on a water day with super light pots to give them a good drenching, use up what's in the bottom, flush what's there out. Also want to get some good saturation with nutrient solution afterwards, then begin my flush.
These are a lot further toward harvest than I had thought due to their bulk -- which is disappointing. I hadn't even moved down to post-bulk nutrients, and I'm going to be skipping to the flush.
Not sure if that's the gnats or what, but it's more or less true across all six plants. I had been only sipping the plants to try to get the gnats out, drought shocked two of them. That's when I discovered their trichomes much closer to harvest than I had thought.
Not very happy. Had expected large colas by now, not sure what I did wrong. If it's the gnats, it is because I re-used the bags... and washed them... but didn't use iso to kill the otherwise-harmless white mold that grows on the bags. Seems to ruin drainage, they had poor drainage their entire grow.
The CBD Critical Mass is already bigger, and 3 weeks younger. Hopefully that one yields a bunch of good medicine, or I'm going to be in the lurch. I kept a clone mother of these Medical Mass, hopefully its clones perform better.
They got their bulk! I also remembered A) this was an 8-plant grow, and B) I was looking at this as an entire crop instead of half of one. Just because it needs to last, doesn't mean my per-plant or per-foot average is low.
I think the actual yields are going to be fine. The two that died as heroines for the cause of getting rid of the gnats (draught, wind) were very dense. Very dense, despite being at least 2 weeks premature (only a few partly cloudies). They work decently as medicine, and they filled six quart jars. I'll go through them first.
This is *probably* the last update, but CBD plants finish 1-3 days after THC would (by the trichs). If they bulk again, I will take pictures for the harvest post. It's flushville from here on out.
Two aren't finished. Sorry for terrible pics, I have a lot of family stuff going on. Hospital on one side, cancer on the other. I only took 4 shots of each and then took the least-blurred, apparently I needed to take eight. Tremors. Need a better auto-stabilizing camera.
They bulked better than I thought they would in the end and they're fairly dense. I still don't expect yields to be like they had for the last couple months but this will last my mother and I until the big CBD crew plants finish.
Under all that, roots were exposed and I couldn't see it, on multiple plants.Couldn't have topdressed anyways, too low. Potassium silicate kept heavy gnat problems at bay but I couldn't fix drainage issues caused by the white powder mold that grows on these fabric bags when you overwater. Iso washing all my bags right now.
No pics of the second one I already harvested, only first. Left it in the dark and it finished purple and had a wave of resin, but started dying at the tips. Nebula says 1-3 days after you would harvest a THC plant for peak CBD, so I wait three.
Got some ambers popping up but they're still mostly clear. Looking more mature but seeming to be behind the others in terms of maturing and ripening.
Will update with harvest details.
Apart from the two i killed with the fan, super premature and i didn't weigh... currently I have a 33.5 and a 26.7. Not happy about my stock of medicine, but the other crop should be coming in fat and heavy. So it's not catastrophic.
Last few days, will have harvest report for the four that finished. Still have one in the mother tent.
Got some decent shots this time. Medicine is great, mostly hoping these beat the 28-33.5 gram mark the other two set. Good muscle relaxant and excellent pain killing.
One of the last two is getting the chop tonight, other going for dark time before chop, few days... whenever's convenient. Got a lot of equip setup starting next week, wont want to have harvests.
Very good medicinal effect. Had some issues with the grow but the final product exhibits good muscle spasm, inflammation, anxiety relief. Skunk and orange/tangerine. I used a lot of molasses which went well with it.
Originally started with 8 plants. Decided to start doing clones, kept a mother, and the candida that was in the tent. Then I was reducing watering for gnats, moved the fan in the tent, killed two more unexpectedly.
Not a good yield on this one, but I don't attribute it to the genetics. With this technique (which I have modified for the Lithium) I had a hard time telling they had exposed roots, and topdressing would be difficult. Had not iso washed my bags, so they got really bad white mold (its not salts?!) and did not breathe. As a result, with poor drainage, gnats had a field day. No telling what the biggest contributing factor was.
Will be topping tertiary branches at the first node instead of removing or leaving them, see how that goes.
yeah the LST / topping both reduce stretching, making the nodes denser... as well as opening them up to more light and air so that the bottoms develop better... getting all of the plant evenly under closer light helps a lot too, so they accomplish many of the same goals.
it also has to do a lot with i take a lot of nodes as theyre growing to try to keep my sucker branch / larf / lollipopping to a minimum, not waste all that energy. this plant grew a lot of nodes on each cola that i took because i thought it was just going to grow out into a spindly thing that mostly blocked sun and air while taking too much resources for the bud it was going to make.
my pruning technique is still evolving; these stretched in such a way i didn't have to take rear facing nodes for the top few inches, should help add a bit of bulk.
Sorry to hear about the gnats. You crop still looks good. I had a little trouble with gnats at the start of my grow due to soil storage. I found that essential oils helped me immensely with both the mold, and also insect repellant. I used 8 drops each of Peppermint, Lemon, Rosemary, Lavender and Cinnamon oils all added to a 24 Oz. spray bottle work wonders. The down side being they can be a bit pricy depending where you get them. It may be worth it though if you're looking for an organic repellant that won't harm the plant or alter you ph. Hope all goes well. Cheers
@Jaindoh, you're right, I assumed the white buildup on the bags was salt as well and was trying to figure out how to get it off. Thanks for the advice. I'll have to try that when I get home.
@Horantu, Thanks! Will keep in mind. I'm still pretty sure the potassium silicate has my roots resisting the gnats, I had just wanted to kill them before they got out of hand and couldn't -- I'm figuring the lack of drainage was the real culprit; if they drained like the other batch they wouldn't have gnats.
That said, that's a great recipe I will be keeping and probably making. Once I realized it was probably that white mold -- which like many growers I had thought was salt -- many of the guides said to use isopropyl. Which does work great, in between grows.
But I didn't want to use it while the plants were still in the bag. Your recipe I could have at least tried. Need to get some neem too.
Nice bushy little plants. Since they seem to be photoperiod, are you going to flip them soon?
What are you looking for in your grow that signals that you want to flower? I've seen anywhere from 3 weeks of veg to 8-10 weeks. You have been in veg for a long time it seems. I flipped my plant, but I couldn't find a ton of info about when to flip and why.
@Quexos, Forgot to mention its also cause I have exactly 6 of most of my seeds and need them to fill the tent. Going to buy 5 gallon bags and coir when I can afford it, to this end.
As far as why I do longer veg, yes it works. 6-8 weeks in coir seems to be as quick as i can get a plant as big as it wants to be, soil seems to take a couple weeks longer.
Basically, when I ran 10 pots in the same space it wasnt as critical to get them big and trained.
@Quexos,
Yeah the COB tent just gives that much more weight of bud that its worth waiting for my meds sake.
You can flip quickly, most definitely especially if you have a lot of smaller plants in the same space and especially if yo can get your first 3 weeks to be explosive growth.
That kind of growth in three weeks is less "autopilot soil" (though I've seen good veg vigor and speed in living soil)... more like transplanting in coir with root additives and foliar misting and good light, or bubbleponics, or something.
If i had ten 2gal pots with these things in it i could have easily flipped after 3-4 weeks. Many growers start dense sogs under 12/12 in the first place for short grows.
The buds look great on your plants! I know they aren't very large, but there are a lot of them and they look pretty dense.
I thought those canvas bags were mostly disposable. I thought about reusing them in the future, but I'm not sure how they would hold up through multiple grows.
Horantu has some excellent ideas for ridding your grow of pests.
@Quexos, Yeah, I am already going to order 5 gallon bags.
Not only that, now that my perpetual harvest is going, I shouldn't have the plants sitting around so long. I expected the autoflowers I harvested to take 9-11 weeks, not 14-16.
But you're not wrong, and everything should be peachy keen going forward =)
I think that the 3 gallon canvas sacks are too small for such a long photoperiod grow. In the future, I will use 5 gallon sacks for my photos, but I'll continue to use 3 gallon sacks for any auto I grow.
I think maybe a shorter veg period that would result in fewer bud sites, but larger buds in the end. It just seems to take too long to develop the plants in such a small container.
@Quexos, Yeah, I am super hopeful. This is exactly what happened on my very first grow when I topped too many times; once the plants stagnated their vegging, I thought the buds would be sure to be huge on that many branches.
Turns out I've just reached the limit of a 3-gallon root ball and needed to have trimmed even more heavily.
The bags are definitely re-usable, and now that I'm adding an isopropyl wash, they come out pristine after some rinsing. If I can avoid over-watering, I should be able to keep the white stuff at bay.
Nice little harvest . Well over 28 grams per plant. I know its not what you wanted, but the buds are awesome looking! They are very dense and that purple color is very nice! Overall, despite human and insect interference, you have a successful harvest.
@Quexos, I appreciate the support! I'm very happy with the end results as well. Waiting the extra days past when you'd harvest for THC made them very sleepy but they're really good medicine =)
There seems to have been a lot of bud development over the past week! The photos look great! I think you will get a great harvest out of this grow. Its amazing, a little tiny plant is going to yield sooooo much!
Thanks for the close up of the individual buds! They look very nice! I'm wondering, do you think all of the LST and topping changes the way the buds form, or is it mostly a genetic thing? We both trained our plants a lot, and our buds are looking very similar. It could be the strain, but I've noticed other growers that use a lot of LST have similar flower production patterns.
Nice looking canopies you have going there! The bud shots are really nice! Is it a characteristic of this strain to produce those golf ball shaped buds? Everything looks so round!
You gotta be close to harvest. Is that why you switched to molasses?
@Quexos,afaik the silica strengthens everything from the roots to the leaves to the bud and the potassium is what makes the stalks larger.
I give the molasses to sweeten the flavor instead of a more expensive carb supplement. The potassium and other minerals are more of a side bonus. Buffers the pH which can make balancing it a pain when you're eyeballing the dosage like I have been.
That little bit of sweetness goes a long way to make otherwise subtle flavors pop.
@Jaindoh, So the molasses acts to give them finishing nutes and flavor? What does it do to your pH? I am going to be using Overdrive soon is that similar?
That max silica contains Potassium. Is that keeping the roots strong, or the stalk structure?
@Quexos, I think this is the beginning of week 6. Will have to check. If I shaped them right, I'm hoping they'll bulk quite nicely with that time.
Yeah, figured I'd get the molasses in a few times before I forgot. It's kind of a pain sometimes pH wise considering I eyeball it =p
Been running max silica as well from time to time to try to keep them sturdy. Will taper off of that soon as well.
Very nice canopy. Any photos of individual bud sites? I'd like to see their development. How much trimming and defoliating are you doing right now? I am doing a lot of leaf tucking to get light to my bud sites, but I'd love to trim off some of the big fan leaves. So far I've kept my scissors out of the grow tent. Any thoughts?
@Quexos, nope!
a) start defoliation much earlier and gradually, helps a lot with shock
b) be aware that idk 6 weeks into flower the plant basically stops making leaves
c) leave enough for "armor", i.e. if there are deficiencies to pull from there
d) decide how much after the "no more leaves" point is safe to trim, you can take a lot because the plant is basically done... if it can handle it
seems like the flowers grow based on hormones, like based on how much air circulation and light theyre getting, more so than the pure "solar panels" of the leaves
@Jaindoh, Thanks! I like looking at the close ups so that I can have something visual to gauge my plant's progress. Your plants are real similar in development, so you are a great benchmark.
So you have no issues with trimming off leaves at any time during the flowering process?
@Quexos, did quite a bit of defoliating during the beginning and end of the stretch with a few touch-up jobs during the stretch itself. After this, I'll mostly continue keeping an eye on what's being shaded (anything i didnt lollipop I want to develop)
then give one or two good rounds specifically to keep mold chances down and increase circulation later on
mostly I was too conservative again with how many actual branches I took and they're a bit crowded; should work, just need to make sure they get sun and air... the nodes all in the middle of things might end up more bare but it's that or chop more of them
will try to get better photos, they have itty bitty buds and some good pistil formation
Dang dude, I didn't know a plant could take up to 3 months to flower!? Also, do you start trimming leaves more and more as it begins to ripen?
P.S. Looks frickin amazing BTW!
@PussyWagon6969, Oh also yeah i definitely do a lot more defoliation, instead of:
A) No defoliation
B) Big waves of defoliation at specific times. Before the flip, then after they recover from it post-flip, and finally after stretch.
I choose:
C) Always be pruning, up until the last few weeks. It won't grow any more leaves after a certain point. Then, cut the leaves partially bit by bit day by day until theyre almost trimmed... but while they're still on the plant.
One of the main things that makes each node grow larger, denser buds with better resin is: airflow to the bud sites. The other is light reaching it.
On the other hand, needing to grow more leaves, when done gradually, does not seem to slow it down at all.
https://www.growweedeasy.com/defoliation
@PussyWagon6969, lot of old strains like pure hazes do
i changed the journal to flowering when i flipped 12/12 not when the flowers actually showed, so cut two or maybe three weeks off it
other than that it's mostly that i'm waiting until 25-50% amber because supposedly higher CBD if you harvest 1-3 days later
certain light spectrums have longer flowering periods, these were under my mars hydro reflector 144s instead of my roleadro 400s for a while. half their flower, under the same lights i always got 10 week finishes on "8 week" strains.
Excellent grow! The shots aren't too bad. Maybe invest in a little tripod? How much did you yield on this little girl?
I see trainwreck in the dispensaries a lot. Its a pretty heavy hitter. You are going to be very pleased!
@Quexos, I always forget that my phone case has a tripod spot, that's a great idea.
First yield is 33.5, I get that much out of 2 gals and every 3 gal from my last batch had 42-64. I'm happy to have the medicine, and blame myself not the strain, but I'm disappointed.
Particularly because I took two of them to be mothers, one of these Medical Mass (which are Critical Mass x Lagrimosa IIRC, not trainwreck ;P) and a candida. Then I accidentally killed two of them on sip-feed with the fan premature =( It makes the reasons behind my overall yield more acceptable, but I'm glad the other crop is a faster finisher.
This wasn't my best work.
You need to wait after curing , maybe they all will be stone hard and sweet
My bag seed have same thing
Not shure shuld I trim it away or let it grow to end
Don’t wanna stun
I think I will just let her
@TomatoloverBoy, yeah the weird part is I did thin the tertiary nodes extensively, trying only to leave enough to not waste any area. you're probably right, though; I imagine this shape and a larger bag would also have done better, for the same reasons.
Beautiful canopy Jon! Now that they are flowering in earnest, how long do you think those buds will get? I'm wondering how all of our topping and LST is effecting the final size of our flowers. I don't think it would effect the flavor, or potency.
@Jaindoh, Can't argue with success! I guess what we look for is maturaity in the plant after all of the training. I think in this grow I wanted it to be done so I didn't give it as much time to mature before flipping. That might account for the 3 weeks it has taken to show flowers.
As usual, your explanations are excellent. Nice blend of botany and experience.
@Quexos, well i am hoping for coverage of the lights' hot-spot first, a certain density of colas second... then as much weight on each cola as they'll put on after that, and then as long as possible as the final goal.
So I'm maximizing the area the plant has first and then going vertical. This way when they gain length theyre already as bushy and thick as makes sense; every inch in length of cola after that is maximized.
I'm okay if the colas aren't 24" long so long as theyre big and thick, made of well-developed nodes that were only the nodes receiving more light and air. This will lend to diameter much more than length.
I believe these plants capable of anywhere from 1oz to 2, probably closer to 2, each, so i'm shooting for 8oz minimum and the closer to 12+ oz i get the happier I am XD
Got 52g off an indica Alien with same area, light (1sqft, 50w of the cobs), which were nowhere near as large going into flowering
They seem ok, just exhausted from the stretch, should be fine in a day or two, looking forward to seeing them under those COBs and in full flower mode ;)
@Jaindoh, yeap, they sure are ;) as for the counting of flowering cycle and stretch I always count it from the start of actual flowers appearing know a lot of people that count it from when they flip them
That is a considerable amount of training? Training pictures always look strange. Next time, could you pull some of the trained plants out of the light? The purple hue makes it difficult to see your training methods.
BTW, hope you are recovering from surgeries.
@Quexos, thanks!
yeah usually after all the bending into the tent to train im done-zo but that's cause i'm dumb and dont remove the plants to a tall surface to train in the first place. taking them out for pictures would solve both problems.
I'm actually planning on doing videos at some point of the training I just don't have a great way to do that as I need both hands.
@Quexos, Oh yeah. They might have taken a couple weeks longer, but they didn't just bulk -- they also got rock hard, much closer to the other strain. I'm looking forward to it =)
She is going to look great curing in mason jars. Those are really nicely formed buds! I can certainly see why you train your plants so much. There is no wasted space, or little popcorn buds on the bottom. Everything is clean and tight!
I think this has been a fine grow. Your yield isn't too bad, and none of it is waste! 😁👋
@Quexos, Thanks for the support!
I like this training scheme, it's just labor intensive. I'm going to do it on the lithium but try just hst+fimming the 00 NL i just germinated, theyre not going to have a whole lot of time to get them into any particular shape.
It's going to be like a DBZ fight. You haven't even seen my final form! XD
Jaindoh
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