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weeks 10, 13-16
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weeks 10, 12
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weeks 12-21
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weeks 14, 16
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weeks 9
Coco Coir
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DreamCatcher DreamCatcher
4 years ago
This is the week i am supposed to bump the A&B to 4ml and the B-52 to 2 ml, however, i wont do that. I will bump the B-52 to 2 ml but i wont increase any of the A&B. I am already having to dilute the feed with another 250-400ml extra water to bring the EC down to 1766-1806. The plant has spiraled out of control. Pictures dont make sense anymore, the lack of depth of field makes it impossible to count nodes or even make sense what and where to trim. I am still researching how to defoliate the bottom half so that i wont stress the plant but also boost its side growth. At this rate, if i dont do any more major changes that can impact the growth, i think i can start thinking of switching to 12/12 by the end of this (or next) week. The smell exists, but only when i work with the branches or move leaves aside to inspect the stem etc my fingers smell Lemony and fresh damp. Only for a few seconds and only after heavy tampering with the plant, that tells me i absolutely need to start thinking about ventilation, even without a filter to begin with, just to take some of that air out and passively bring some more in. My humidity is at 86% overnight, ventilation should somewhat manage that. I went ahead and removed the biggest fan leaves making some space for the bottom branches to come up. Ill let her recover before removing more. Last day of veg day 70! I have already switched the light cycle did the last major defoliation and lowered the nutrient strength to 1.3-1.4. Here we go boys, its happening!! I fugured out a way to feed correctly. Since the recommendations are what they are, i am thinking breaking apart the ratio balance wouldnt be a good idea. Instead, I add the recommended amounts of nutes and supplements in 1 litre of water, and then diluting that 1Litre with another 1(maybe 1.5l) until i get an EC of 1.6-1.7. That seems to be working correctly, no burns, no deficiencies. Its a bit weird though and it makes me question... They claim to be testing their products on real plants right? yet, try to give their recommendations to a real plant and youve essentially fried it... Their recommended dosages mid flower are above the 2.8 EC mark, which plant survives that and how do you effectively flush it afterwards? so many questions...
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Grow Questions
DreamCatcher
DreamCatcherstarted grow question 4 years ago
Voodoo Juice and Piranha Fertilizer arrives in 3 days. Im not very sure on the schedule.. If anyone can drop a suggestion will be very appreciated, i havent found a schedule online for them 2 to look at.
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Feeding. Schedule
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ElevatedNoob
ElevatedNoobanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hey FungShroom. If you go to the AN website they have a nice feeding schedule. If you select the "Grand Master" as grower level it gives you all AN products on 1 chart. That way you know for all AN products.... Simply set your resivoir size in gallons or liters. Hope this helps. Happy growing ✌️👊
DreamCatcher
DreamCatcherstarted grow question 4 years ago
Hello fellow growers :D <3 My leaves started drooping after i decided yday to start watering daily. I watered today with only supplements and looked for drainage. Should i be worried i may have burned them? or should i wait until/if it gets worse to do something?
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Leaves. Wilting
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Trueorganics84
Trueorganics84answered grow question 4 years ago
Hey man. Try watering less. Only water when soil is almost dry and you see the bottom leaves dropping first. Then water. I water once a week.
DreamCatcher
DreamCatcherstarted grow question 4 years ago
I am wondering... Advanced Nutrients gives you recommendations on how to feed your plants and claim to be testing their products on real plants, yet, that dosage in 1 litre of water brings the EC up to 2.8 which can kill a plant easy. Opinions?
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Feeding. Other
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GMSgrows
GMSgrowsanswered grow question 4 years ago
Yeah. They like to sell nutes. Those levels are for professional growers with ultimate lighting, ultimate environment, and max nutes. They just tell you the highest level possible but most have crappy led lighting and just as extraction fan and intake to control their environment. Light is the most important thing for plants, yet people buy shitty amazon lights and tell everyone how good they are...NOT. If led lighting is preferred then a good Fluence spydrx plus is the only model I would buy, but their really expensive. Even this light wont out perform harvest weight of A 1000W HPS, but it will come close. So they aren't doing anything wrong telling you those levels because people do grow at that ppm. Light, environment, know how, food in that order and you wouldnt believe the size of the buds that will grow for you.
DreamCatcher
DreamCatcherstarted grow question 4 years ago
Might be an overreaction but i am noticing all my new growth is yellowing. Could it be a high/low temp fluctuation imbalance during the night/day cycle? Is it a problem? Should i be doing something to fix it? Im 2 days into flower.
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
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Shagrath
Shagrathanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi there! I think that at this stage of growth the new parts are more than often little bit yellow but should green up in a day or two. If it spreads then this symptom is the first in Sulfur, Iron and calcium def atleast but when it spreads its easier to tell which one or something else. So keep watching here but don't react just yet
DreamCatcher
DreamCatcherstarted grow question 4 years ago
Can somebody describe what they can see in this picture? I only received it a few days ago, and since have been watering based on what the Truncheon tells me, but few days later i see a toxicity on my plant, and testing it against the Digital TDS meter shows me diff numbers(?)
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Feeding. Chemical composition
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DrJynx86
DrJynx86answered grow question 4 years ago
I have to say after reading online the manuals for both meters, both have embedded termometers to work under any temperature, and they come factory calibrated so I suggest this: 1) Clean them both very well with distilled 7.0 ph water. 2) If you're using rechargeable AAA batteries with the Truncheon, that's the issue, replace them for regular batteries. Measure again, stirr for a moment and let them stabilize, hopefully the readings will be a lot closer than now!
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DreamCatcher
DreamCatcherweek 7
@MadeInGermany Yes i measured my outflow water and it was EC 5080. i have repotted her into a smaller 2 litre pot with fresh coco and perlite and watered until i got an outflow of 1400. Havent added any nutes, only voodoo juice, piranha fert, sensizym and carboload. I am hoping she will recover. will check back tomorrow.
MadeInGermany
MadeInGermany
@DreamCatcher, I liked doing that :-) I'm happy if I could help you buddy 😎👍 Keep it up
DreamCatcher
DreamCatcher
@MadeInGermany, you were right, she perked up :D :D I started watering through a syringe until i get a runoff of whatever EC goes in, apparently, i watered too much and less often, making the coco coir compact at the bottom and not allowing the roots to breathe, i figured that out after i repotted her yesterday and had a very long dig online to see other people with the same problem. Its not underwatering or overwatering its definitely Underoxygenation. Honestly if not your reply i wouldnt sleep without scrapping the whole room out of frustration.. Thanks my G <3
MadeInGermany
MadeInGermany
@DreamCatcher, Hi she'll be fine :-) you've done everything necessary 👍
GMSgrows
GMSgrowsweek 10
Hey bro. When you switch over feed 1.2 to start then work your way up. Looking good
GMSgrows
GMSgrows
@DreamCatcher, Yes. You can always or most always fix your girls in veg but once in flower, different story. Yield and quality will suffer. Always important to have healthy girls before switching.
DreamCatcher
DreamCatcher
@GMSgrows, I did that quite early, but in my case there was not much drainage and i was watering weekly like soil (whilst growing in coco) i did catch it whilting and withering. Because of no drainage the water was too salty, my TDS stick hit its peak at 5+EC, but i acted fast and managed to save it, i thank everything sacred that its a photoperiod strain and not an auto.. On week 8 it had come back around and finally growing like normal :P Im switching the lights to 12/12 this monday :D
GMSgrows
GMSgrows
@DreamCatcher, this gg4 is throwing me off a bit cus it wants more food than any plant I have ever grown. She is yellowing a little early for my liking. But it is underfed not overfed which I can increase. If they were overfed, say g bye to a health harvest.
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GMSgrows
GMSgrowsweek 16
Hey DC. Um, Could I recommend cutting your flower nutes back to 1.6 should be about your highest in mid flower. When I start feeding bloom nutes I start low, 1.2 ec for first 2 weeks of actual flower,,increase if I see early yellowing of my leaves. Mid flower I usually run 1.5 to 1.6, then late flower back to 1.2. Too much ec and your girls wont fatten up to good. Just my opinion, the way I do it in soiless. Cheers friend.
DreamCatcher
DreamCatcher
@GMSgrows, I DMed you ^_^
DreamCatcher
DreamCatcher
@GMSgrows, Yes thanks for the recommendation, ill do that, It is the first week of lower strength feeds on the schedule, so i will lower to 1.8-1.6 range until the next phase of lowering, then ill lower to 1.4-1.5 and continue that until last phase which would be just water. I did think to myself if i was diluting the feed x2 or at times x2.5 and the Digital gave me the reading i THOUGHT i was getting, now with the analog, it looks like i thought i was giving 2.1 but turned out i was actually giving 1.5 maybe 1.6.. so i think without me knowing, i was already doing what you are telling me, just my meter was a bit shitty and wouldnt give me a true reading. The EC this week has dropped to 1.8 i just forgot to update it on the diary :P I really do appreciate all the feedback, opinions, ideas and recommendations, but i also believe that learning on other peoples' mistakes is a little bit more difficult than making your own and finding the lesson that way, yes some bigger issues may be prevented by just listening, so thank you for the input <3
GMSgrows
GMSgrowsweek 12
Looking good but dont over do it on all those additives or youll regret it. I use two in flower, floranova bloom and massive bloom formulation. Cheers
GMSgrows
GMSgrows
, you got a pretty good handle on what your doing. You can take clones up till early bud. They make super clones, mega branches after reveg
DreamCatcher
DreamCatcher
@GMSgrows, Yeah i follow the recommended dosages but i also dilute it with about 300-500ml extra water per litre to bring the EC down to safe levels, I never put those amouts in straight 1 litre of water that will kill the plant :P 1 litre of water with all those inside reads at 2.4EC, i dilute until i get 1.8-1.9. 3 of the supplements are beneficial microbes and fungi (first 2 weeks of flower only) to populate the root zone, 1 is to break dead bits of root and feed it back to the plant, 1 is sugars to feed said beneficial microbes, 1 is sugars for newly forming bud sites and 1 is terpene/essential oil accelerator. Most of them dont continue past week 3 of flower and others come in place instead. I quite like this nute line, dunno why but apart from the schedules they have it seems to be doing way good for the girl :P
Ferenc
Ferencweek 22
Great job and congratulation you have grown this beauty 100% Heirloom Sativa strain. Well done! Enjoy @DreamCatcher
DreamCatcher
DreamCatcher
@Ferenc, Thanks man!! Its super sticky and tastes absolutely fantastic! best smoke i ever had..
MELs_Garden
MELs_Gardenweek 16
Ten en cuenta que la grinspoon es sativas y de floración larga por lo que los nutrientes hay que repartirlos más a lo largo, yo tengo de oídas que hay que darle de comer con cuenta gotas, yo tengo una Y a la mínima que le doy un riego fuerte da indicios de sobre alimentación. Mucha suerte, estaremos atentos.
DreamCatcher
DreamCatcher
@MELs_Garden, Thank you! I had serious troubles switching from the digital meter to the Truncheon tool, the digital is showing me values that i got used to, 1.8EC-2.1EC, the plant seemed to be enjoying it, but the minute i switched to the same values on the truncheon the plant begun stressing out, i ordered the calibration and cleaning kit from bluelabs already, should be here next week. Currently i dropped to 1EC on the truncheon and ill take it from here... Im glad i have people on board, without the advices given to me so far i dont think how this wouldve evolved :P
L_Tetragrammaton
L_Tetragrammatonweek 15
Wow! This is one strain I would love to grow. Pure sativa goodness. The buds are like no other cannabis plant and is such a beauty! Great job and happy growing ❤️
DreamCatcher
DreamCatcher
@L_Tetragrammaton, Thanks man :D and yes it does look stunning, it has just begun covering with trichromes ^_^
Mashup
Mashupweek 15
I found Grinnspoon go in to lockout 2week of flowering
DreamCatcher
DreamCatcher
@Mashup, I didnt have any problems with feeding week 6 onwards. I begun at 1EC, and over the course of 3 weeks before flowering that rose up to 2.4EC. The "Claws" appear rather fast, so you have hours if not a whole day to correct the EC if needed. I always noticed the leaves claw in about 10 to 20 minutes after feeding, which prompted me to lower the EC by 0.1 to 0.2, i never saw those leaves "Unclaw" but also i never saw it progress into something serious. The Advanced Nutrients line and their recommendations are fckin overkill. What i did from week 6 onwards was i added all the supplements at recommended strength, and the base nutrients at half strength, and then, i added extra water to bring the EC down and only then fed the plant. Currently, the dosages i state i use are per 1.5L of water, so if im making a what would be 2L of feed, i dilute that with another 1.5 to 1.8L of water before feeding. I never waited for the plant to go into deficiencies before upping the strength of the feed. I did it once, and you can see it if you go back on the weeks (a single yellow leaf can be seen in some pictures) after that i figured it out and since then never had any problem :)
GMSgrows
GMSgrowsweek 15
Catching some good dreams soon.... Cheers
DreamCatcher
DreamCatcher
@GMSgrows, Ah man, cant imagine how excited i am :D
GMSgrows
GMSgrowsweek 14
Looking good DC. gonna be plenty of bud on that baby....
DreamCatcher
DreamCatcher
@GMSgrows, I had already settled with the fact that DrG doesnt give much but this already looks more than ive ever bought at once lol xD
Ninefold
Ninefoldweek 13
Oh wow, she's growing real quick indeed! I hope you'll be able to keep her low enough haha. Stretching usually stops after about 2-3 weeks right?
DreamCatcher
DreamCatcher
@Ninefold, On most strains yes, on most strains it is NOT recommended to prune or defoliate after the third week of veg because thats when they usually stop producing leaves, so whatever you take off before that is what youre left with until the end. Now DrG is a pure sativa, meaning it never stops stretching, it will stretch until 4th week of flower, then focus on the buds, then stretch a bit more, then buds again and so on, im at the end of week 3 now, watch how she will keep stretching, ive got 20CM on the cord left for the lights, watch how ill be met with a problem very soon hahaha
GMSgrows
GMSgrowsweek 13
Looking great DC. when I go into 12 12 the stretch portion, I do most of the trimming then, I put the light as close to the girls as I can to help keep the nodes closer together and I up their feed for the stretch then lower it down to 600 1.2 ec you could go 700, 1.4 ec once the button size buds form. Then I watch for deficiencies and increase the feed 100 ppm each week. Always best to have less and increase as neccessary. Way better to underfeed than overfeed..Cheers friend your innyour way.
DreamCatcher
DreamCatcher
@GMSgrows, Thanks man :) With feeding i got to a point where i was giving her 2EC and was getting an outflow of 1.1EC. She was favoring the nutes more than she was favoring the water, so I upped the nutes, now my outflow sits at 2.2EC a very good ratio inflow/outflow. As for the light, i did think of that, and i decided NOT to touch them again until i see the tips struggling because ot if being too much. Ill do a little bit of trimming mids this week, just remove some shadows for the ones that are just above the grid :P The structure of it doesnt make sense, comparing it to TOTEM's and Tobedetermined's diaries, their buds were more of a foxtail formation, "Feather dusters", but mine is more stalk and what looks like pearls in between the nodes. I dunno but im eager to find out lol xD
Drstormy
Drstormyweek 4
Looking good! Good luck!
DreamCatcher
DreamCatcher
@Drstormy, Thanks! ^_^ this is my first ever proper grow and im learning as i go.
DoDrugs420
DoDrugs420week 22
You rock that Dr. Grinspoon i love it.
MELs_Garden
MELs_Gardenweek 22
Felicidades por el gran trabajo. Tu diario me a servido de referencia ya que vas unas semanas por delante de mi grinspoon. Muchas gracias y buenos humos.
Ferenc
Ferencweek 19
GMSgrows
GMSgrowsweek 11
You follow me I follow you. Glad to be aboard..