Hey. I'll be following as I'm growing the same Tangerine Dream but lagging about a couple days behind you. Good luck on what will hopefully be a worthwhile harvest.
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i'm not sure what's happening now.. most fan leaves are yellowing including other leaves on 1 plant now and more and more on the other 2. yellowing from ground up. I thought it was n-def but nothing has helped so far after a flush (nute burn...) and starting on slightly boosted nutrients. leaf tips are all burnt now as well, which they werent a few days ago...PH was at 5.8-9 before so i've raised it to 6.4 but still no luck, still getting worse by the hour..
any advice? Tried flushing, boosted nutes a bit for n-def.. but still yellowing more and more, quicker and quicker now. extremely defeating & frustrating when all was well 2 weeks ago and nothing is helping them :(
UPDATE: i give up on the 3 plants as nothing has helped and only gotten worse. all 3 are significantly worse than only a few days ago. almost all fan leaves are yellow and drying up/dead by the hour... sugar leaves yellowing as well after flush and started nutes at full str again. pretty sure the pants have no hope now.. I have no idea what to do, everythings only made it worse... 😪
UPDATE 2: noticeably more yellowing on all 3 plants now, 1 extremely light green.. and now all 3 have nutrient burn despite flushing then running normal str nutes. sigh. writing this entire crop as a and starting over I guess.. disappointment level 9000. :| lol. no clue what went so wrong all of a sudden that is continuously progressing.
UPDATE 3: unless my ppm meter's beyond uncalibrated i think that may be part of the issue :x trying to up the soil PH also but not sure if i blast with higher water or just stay at new 6.5 water?
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igglepuffstarted grow question 4 years ago
Any clue as to why my plants seem to be drooping all of a sudden? or why one of my TND isnt growing (but isn't dying either)? Watering every other day right now, nutrients/clean water alternating, and only watering when if feels dry 2" or so deep, 500ml per. help pls :(
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Leaves. Curl down
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Nor_Cal_Kannablissanswered grow question 4 years ago
Are you saturating the entire pot? right now she would be good with a shot glass or two of water every other day.. Your probably over watering her and stunting her growth.. let her dry out.. you'll know if it's been to long if after she recovers she starts to droop again.. it's better to underwater than over! Happy growing!
igglepuffstarted grow question 4 years ago
looking to start LST but my plants don't have much spacing in between nodes height wise, and lots of nodes.. is it too late to try and start or would it be a bad idea due to there not being much room for new branches to then form once tied down? sorry for noob questions!
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Plant. Other
Techniques. LST
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Shagrathanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi there!
I think as long as you are veggin it's never too late to start LST!
Now that you have tied it down those lower branches will shoot up to try to become mains and just keep bending and keep an even canopy to get good results!
If you think it is too bushy, you can let her grow some height now and after that remove some branches/lollipop before flowering
igglepuffstarted grow question 4 years ago
Id like to try topping a new plant to see how it goes, but i'm not sure if its too late for an auto. Mid 3-rd week of the plant with a few sets of leaves, but I don't want to stunt it if its too late. any input y'all?
thanks all!
learning every day :D
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Techniques. Topping
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Shagrathanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi there!
I'm doing my first auto grow ATM and I've been told that topping in 3rd week should delay the flowering and it is beneficial for the plant. I tried this and none of the topped plants are pre-flowering but the ones that was not topped arw showing pistils already.
So I'd say go ahead and top it!!
igglepuffstarted grow question 4 years ago
Anyone ideas to what may be causing the lower leaves to yellow and wilt? details; GG4 watered about 750ml/plant every other day alternating ph'd water/nuts (usually still damp 1st day). I over fed then nuts 2 feeds so starting a flush but is the dmg done?:<
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
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NobodysBudsanswered grow question 4 years ago
don't water so much..
water until 20% runoff.. then, wait for 1" to dry before watering again -- ferts or not. continue to alternate or every third for your fertilizer.. find a good concentration that works out at that frequency -- trial and error.
just give water-only.. don't flood it.. it'll work itself out if you overfed in no time.. Doing the above will keep concentrations in your substrate in check.
once you do this fora bit... re-assess .. if it continues to nosedive, it's something else that requires more thought. In general, yellowing from below from tips-in is N-def, but many things cause yellowing and based on your description, sounds like a bit too much water / possibly too much nutes and once that's in line, you may not have a problem at all.
pH 6.5-6.8 ish is great for soil, unless your nutes say something else.
igglepuffstarted grow question 4 years ago
2nd.. 1plant (same schedule as other 2 mains has almost yellowing leaves around bud sites and has always seemed to have shown the same color since the first few weeks. what can be causing this? the other 2 plants don't have the same issue and are around the same heights also
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
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Mr_Weeds_Autosanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hey Growmie ...
It looks like you have an iron deficiency. You can tell from the yellow-colored new growth this is the signature sign of an iron deficiency. Easy fix first make sure the ph is correct and if so give it a Cal-Mag supplement most of them also contain iron.
Hopefully, this was helpful and remember ..."Happy Growing" and "Free your mind one puff at a time".
igglepuffstarted grow question 4 years ago
last q! sorry for them all! Leaves curling down slightly (nothing like clawing) and very very tip burnt. only noticed on 1 plant so far... Nutrient burn? would a week flush help? thx all!
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Leaves. Tips - Burnt
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Mr_Weeds_Autosanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hey Growmie,
Yes, this would be nutrient burn, you can tell from the burnt tips. Try giving her pure ph balanced water for about a week or until she perks back up before giving her more nutrients.
Hopefully, this was helpful and remember ..."Happy Growing" and "Free your mind one puff at a time.
igglepuffstarted grow question 4 years ago
any clue what caused this brown soggy looking tip? I just moved them outside today, so i am thinking i may have punched/squished the leaf but am not sure if its more than that & to worry about. leaf is progressively getting brown quickly, not appearing any other leaves
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Leaves. Tips - Die
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Herbieanswered grow question 4 years ago
if its just one leaf then don't worry.
The plant has stopped all contact with that leaf, for whatever reason? you should remove it incase the reason the plant has discarded it was an infection or similar.
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Bloombusteranswered grow question 4 years ago
Приветствую, бро! 👋 Этот дефицит в нижних этажах нормален для растений, находящихся в периоде цветения! Не стоит беспокоиться, продолжай выращивать, бро! 👋 Удачи!
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Fusionanswered grow question 4 years ago
Don't worry about a few leafs dying. Won't harm the plant. Cannabis is a pretty Hardy plant takes alot to kill them once rooted.
Pick it off and keep growing.. cheers
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igglepuffstarted grow question 4 years ago
follow up q. flushed last week & on nutes yesterday morning again when watering with a bit extra N/6.4ph. This morning more and more fan leaves are yellowing and even some smaller ones now. any ideas? not sure what to try, seem to be getting worse. did mess up bad?:(
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
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Mr_Weeds_Autosanswered grow question 4 years ago
The damaged leaves won't get better but this is just due the issues you were having before. It seems your ph is spot on so now you need supply her with nutrients and things should be fine
igglepuffstarted grow question 4 years ago
people have mentioned should be good now with the fixes, but still getting worse daily. this morning way more noticeable by eye,yellowing and some ready to falloff... Any last ditch suggestions? Ive tried all I can think of and they just get worse. vr frustrated, about to give up
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
Leaves. Color - Pale
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Experimentgreenanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hey there i know it gets frustrating and finding solutions are important. But for right now, just calm down and get through this grow. Most plants will have yellowing leaves as the go further into flowering, especially when you remove the "grow" nutrients like you should. Your plants have also had ph fluctuations which can cause problems, the changes up and down.
Try just keeping the nutes low and the ph consistent for the rest of this week. Alternate between plain water and then fed water and watch for things getting worse. Lots of damage wont recover, but if you can stay at where your at and not progress further than that's good. 👍
igglepuffstarted grow question 4 years ago
not sure whats wrong :( noticed small browning spots on some leaves this morning, when flipped over you can see the spots forming (not sure how to describe it), the darker green spots underleaf. Pests?Mag-def begging? what type of foliar pest spray do i try if pests?
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Leaves. Other
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Experimentgreenanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hey friend
Very trippy spotting...any visible pests where the spots are on the bottom? Or anywhere else? A nice gentle bug killer would be to take a spray bottle and fill 3/4 with water and then 1/4 soap...preferably dr Bonner's castile soap. It won't hurt your plant but will demolish any bugs or larvae.
One concern was the red stems...any possibilities of a phosphorus deficiency or any ph fluctuations lately?
Fortunately your plants are pretty far so i don't see any of this affecting their ability to reach harvest...but still worth solving. ✌️
igglepuffstarted grow question 4 years ago
Looking for a better idea of harvest time as it's my first time. I took the best pictures I could with loupe and phone albeit crappy :/. thinking another 2 weeks or so untill harvest from the looks of them starting to get cloudy. Thoughts?
also any help on drying techniques? :>
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The8thChevronanswered grow question 4 years ago
Two weeks is an excellent guess. May be closer to ten days. Your trichomes seem to be all maturing at a similar rate. That's fantastic for final potency, just check them daily, because it means the amber ones will start popping up very fast and out of nowhere. Don't miss your window!
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Canadamade420answered grow question 4 years ago
Hey, that’s great pics. You are right you got roughly 2/3 weeks to go. The girls are looking great. For drying I always hang dry in a very dark place with good air flow for about 7-10 days and checking daily for dryness. Hope this helps and happy growing
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kinsmanacommentedweek 14 years ago
igglepuffcommented4 years ago
@kinsmana, Thanks! I think the overly strong light may be helping a bit but keeping it from causing lightburn is going to be hard when they get taller...
i *was* watering every 2nd day but i think i had been overwatering, so i've cut back the amount i've been giving them and eyeballing how they're doing. Basically waiting until its dry 2" down or so before ei water, and just watering around the plant for now vs soak the entire smartpot. 1/2 GG4 also looks liek it may be getting nutrient burn, so i've been feeing it just water for the week to try adn flush it a bit.. I guess you learn every day!
Other than that and nutrients at half str every other watering. The 1/2 GG4 is technically a day ahead of the others which would explain why the 1 gg4 seems larger than the others and yours. to be honest, i'm flying by the seat of my pants every day with my first grow but having a blast!
my gg4 girls all look like they keep getting overwatered, though somehow and droopy, despite keeping the same schedule as my TND. TND plants in general look healthier for some reason, darker green, better looking leaves, etc.. not sure why =(
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kinsmanacommented4 years ago
@igglepuff, So, I'm impressed. Even though I think ours are pretty much exactly the same age you seem to be seeing a lot more growth than mine. Some differences are that I'm not confident in my PH and when I initially planted I did a full 100% soak of the soil and haven't watered since (everyone tells me less is best with water). My Critical Purple is outshining the Tangerine Dream so far. I also; however, see you've been watering. Your 1/4 in your photos (which seems lagging) is about the size of my TND.
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igglepuffcommented4 years ago
Same to you friend! I'll be sure to keep an eye on your grow as well -- first time with tnd so here's hoping all goes well 😁
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Growingkittencommentedweek 44 years ago
Good luck with your grow!😸
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Growingkittencommented4 years ago
@igglepuff,meow😸
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igglepuffcommented4 years ago
@Growingkitten thank you! *gives hand full of kitty treats* :D
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kinsmanacommentedweek 64 years ago
Hello Grow buddy, I have to say your diary looks marvelous compared to mine. I just lost track of time and haven't been keeping up as much as you have - but for that I thank you!
Seeing as how our plants pretty well started at the same time (though some how mine are about a week to 2 weeks behind yours) I'm thrilled to use your discoveries, concerns and set backs to help my girls out. My Tangerine Dream turned into a nightmare and died a few weeks ago but my Critical purple is flowering quite nicely right now. I noticed you have some yellowing and it looks a bit like mine. Fortunately all yellowing is on the lower leaves that don't lead to any of the buds. I've been advised that this is fairly normal during flowering. But, again, thanks to the comments on some of your questions, I'll be keeping a close eye on nute burn. Anyway. just wanted to stop in and say I think you've done a great job. Any ideas when you might be looking to harvest?
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igglepuffcommented4 years ago
Heya friend! I'm glad the diary and my mess-ups could give you some useful info! :). Makes them sting a little less lol.
The yellowing ended up being due to low ph causing lockout I believe. After much discussion with really awesome members and everything, the 2 have started to get color back. From last night to this evening it's actually noticible to the eye, it gives me some hope for the next grow! lol. I'm hoping the buds fill out some more, though, especially on teh GG4 #1 that was stunted from lockout... but it is what it is.
I'm not too sure on harvest yet to be honest, but i'd say they still have a good few weeks to go. I've got 2 more autos and a photo germinating right now to start as soon as they're ready to go! :D. Happy growing!
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Stickyfingaz420commentedweek 64 years ago
We all get impatient even after growing for years, honestly wasn't a bad first attempt and you'll gain valuable knowledge, we dont make mistakes we just learn keep it up n happy growin 🤙
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igglepuffcommented4 years ago
Thanks! Hopefully they pop more but if not better than nothing I guess! Any tips for next time regarding LST or whatever else to help yields, or help not mess them up when I do try LST again? lol
I only started CaliMagic week 4 when it finally showed up, so i'm sure that would have helped a bit if it got it into earlier feedings, but otherwise I'm not quite sure right now. haha.
I was looking into trying topping a new crop and scrog maybe, with some extra space I've got but not sure if i should give it a whle yet or not :D
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Nor_Cal_Kannablisscommentedweek 64 years ago
Gotta remember autoflowers only get about 3 ft tall max. They aren't like photos which you can control a lot easier.. I got some Auto's popped and it's my first shot with auto's also so I'm hoping they come out ok.. 👊
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igglepuffcommented4 years ago
@Nor_Cal_Kannabliss, aye, I thought i'd have a bit more time in veg based off others but mine decided ot pop a week or so earlier than some of the same breeder/strain but what can ya do :/. I'm not sure how to improve yield, though... I thought my first shot at LST would help more than it did (or harmed it even D: lol)
may go with regular seeds next just so I can top them with more assurance theyll recover and not flower out of no where :P
lets gooo :D 👊👊
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Stickyfingaz420commentedweek 44 years ago
Looks like a job well done, cant see exactly how you've tied your baby's down but keep it up and happy growin.
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igglepuffcommented4 years ago
ty! i used gardening wires to tie them down with safety pins to the smartpot or tied to a few stakes in the dirt. Canopy seems to be about level right now but only a few flowering locations so far =( (though bth it's only been a day or so since i've noticed GG4s starting to flower). I'm hoping they fill out and up over hte next few weeks :o. New pics tomorrow on week 5 :D
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Stickyfingaz420commentedweek 34 years ago
Swollen leaves a sign of early over feeding
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igglepuffcommented4 years ago
That's kind of what I figured, ended up letting them dry up another daay and started feeding less and it seems to be recovering for the most part :)
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Garreweedlovercommentedweek 14 years ago
Hola amigo , si tienes la posibilidad comprate un medidor de EC , te ayudara mucho en tu cultivo , espero puedas revisar mis diarios y darme like jejej saludos
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igglepuffcommented4 years ago
Hey thanks for the suggestion! I already have one on the way along with my ph kit & up/down solutions, just waiting for the delivery!:) Happy harvesting!
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blackraincommentedweek 84 years ago
Looks great, good job. 😍🤞🍁
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The_green_outdoorscommentedweek 54 years ago
Good luck 🌱👍
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Stickyfingaz420commentedweek 74 years ago
you've done the right thing by uping your ph but im with everybody else nothing to worry about just yet 👍
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MaxBearcommentedweek 64 years ago
This is my first real grow too. I think your training looks great for first time. Hoping mine does as well.
I’m using 3mm craft wire I got at Amazon. Just cutting a piece, bending a hook on the end and pinning branches down. I share your concern on the narrow internodes.
Next grow I’m just doing one plant and thinking I’ll somewhat close to the edge of the pot. Maybe a quarter of the way on the diagonal. Then espalier it across the pot spreading the branches out on the way. Don’t know if that’s an actual technique or not.
Good luck.
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Stickyfingaz420commentedweek 54 years ago
I usually lollipop week 3, I'd lightly defoliate for now if your wanting to get a bit more light to the bottom, maybe lower light to 24". Happy growin
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Stickyfingaz420commentedweek 34 years ago
Great news I'm sure they'll bounce back just fine,I'll be keeping an eye on this one as I've got 2 gg#4 five weeks into flower. Here for any help
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