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Tropa de Elite AUTO
Fission 300W Light Emitting Diodes/500W
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Fission 300W Light Emitting Diodes/1000W
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Week 1. Vegetation
8 years ago
1 cm
24 hrs
27 °C
6
73 PPM
50 %
Nutrients 4
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro 0.13 mll
TriPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Bloom 0.13 mll
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow 0.13 mll
This is a strain from MSB , South american seed bank from Chile. Strain is called Tropa de Elite (yes from the movie), automatic. Started seeds on Rapid Rooters plugs. Moist the plugs with RO water. Waiting for them to pop up. No nutes now. Update 12/23 One seed sprouted so far Added very low nutes to the Rez and transplanted to the grow site . Update 12/24 Another seed started showing signs. 2 out of 4 so far.
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Week 2. Vegetation
8 years ago
5 cm
24 hrs
27 °C
5.9
73 PPM
50 %
Nutrients 4
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro 0.13 mll
TriPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Bloom 0.13 mll
TriPart Grow - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Grow 0.3 mll
So they seem to have catch up growth after the modifications. I filled up the buckets with hydroton and made a diy cover to prevent light leak inside the buckets. Also bumped the Hydroguard. One of them is already growing roots in the water really fast. Impressive. Be sure to check out the amazing timelapse videos i've been cooking. Almost time for a Rez change and bump up the nutes?
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Week 3. Vegetation
8 years ago
7 cm
24 hrs
25 °C
5.8
250 PPM
45 %
Nutrients 6
Calcium Nitrate PA 99,8% 0.16 mll
Magnesium Sulphate PA 99.8% 0.03 mll
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro 0.26 mll
So, did the first water change on day 15. Lots of action underneath, roots growing, but not much vertical growth. Increased the PPMs to 250 and added a little bit of CalMag. I see a little tip burn on the leaves but from running such a low PPM ? PH has been steady. Not too sure, just letting it ride. 01/08/2017 - DAY 19 issues? Guys, need some help. Check out recent pics, this is day 19 . Some leafs are showing issues. Light stress or nute burn? I am running 250ppm with 5.8ph stable RO water. 1ml/gallon 3 parth GH nutes (40 gallon system)
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Week 4. Vegetation
8 years ago
20 cm
24 hrs
25 °C
5.8
560 PPM
45 %
Nutrients 5
Calcium Nitrate PA 99,8% 0.16 mll
Magnesium Sulphate PA 99.8% 0.03 mll
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro 0.264 mll
Day 24 Update. New growth looking ok, one 1 plant is developing without major issues. Others are somewhat stunted. Since everything is dialed in I am not sure whats going on. For the next run i will take everything apart, I am thinking maybe the chiller wasn't properly sterilized and is fucking me up.
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Week 5. Vegetation
8 years ago
25 cm
20 hrs
25 °C
5.8
560 PPM
45 %
Nutrients 5
Calcium Nitrate PA 99,8% 0.16 mll
Magnesium Sulphate PA 99.8% 0.03 mll
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro 0.264 mll
Starting to think I was scammed. 5 weeks of Veg already and this was supposed to be an Auto strain... Strange..... Some pistils but not enough flowering, is this normal? 4 days since I changed to 20/4 instead of 24/0
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Week 6. Flowering
8 years ago
30 cm
20 hrs
25 °C
5.8
600 PPM
45 %
Nutrients 6
Calcium Nitrate PA 99,8% 0.2 mll
Magnesium Sulphate PA 99.8% 0.1 mll
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro 1.057 mll
Man, what a day yesterday... I was doing a reservoir change and decided to do a FULL clean on all buckets and rez. Emptied till the last drop, wiped thoroughly with clean cloth and stupidly decided to add H2O2 on the new water to help sterilize pipes and chiller. What a fucking dumb mistake, I was looking online for dosages and boys, oh boys, don't you ever trust broscience... Read somewhere it was safe to add up to 5ml/gal of 35% H2O2 and I went ahead and added 80ml of this shit on my system. Almost immediately the plants started wilting, too bad I didn't take a pic, seriously, they looked like dead within a few minutes. Luckily I didn't leave the room and was fortunate enough to realize what went wrong and dumped all the water before it was too late. By the end of the day they seemed to have recovered. Apart from this, flowers starting to show on this new 20/4 light regimen. Pretty late for allegedly autoflower strain... Since they were stressed I decided not to bump the nutes straight away, so I've kept it at EC 1.2 for now, RO 0 + 100ppm Calmag + 500 nutes. I'll let they get back to speed and then bump it a little more if they don't show burn. I'm still struggling with CalMag, some leafs showing issues, I've been using Mag Sulphate and Cal Nitrate , Lab grade powders, I've got some CaliMagic coming and will use it instead soon.
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Week 7. Flowering
8 years ago
40 cm
20 hrs
25 °C
5.8
750 PPM
45 %
Nutrients 5
Sensi Cal-Mag Xtra - Advanced Nutrients
Sensi Cal-Mag Xtra 1 mll
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro 0.793 mll
TriPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Bloom 1.057 mll
Week 7. Video update bonus included. Sailing along. Increased PPMs to 750, EC 1.5 and added Cal-Mag to the mix. Defoliated some damaged leaves and some fans which were clouding potential buds. More detailed shots coming soon #update 02/09/2017 New camera with corrected WB. New pics and Video test.
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Week 8. Flowering
8 years ago
60 cm
20 hrs
25 °C
5.8
750 PPM
50 %
Nutrients 5
Sensi Cal-Mag Xtra - Advanced Nutrients
Sensi Cal-Mag Xtra 1 mll
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro 1.057 mll
TriPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Bloom 1.585 mll
Cruise control... Did a rez change, fresh new RO water + added calmag and nutes totalling 750ppm. Not much vertical growth. Buds fattening up now. tied up some of the branches and defoliated a little to allow more light penetration.
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Week 9. Flowering
8 years ago
70 cm
20 hrs
25 °C
5.8
250 PPM
50 %
Nutrients 5
Sensi Cal-Mag Xtra - Advanced Nutrients
Sensi Cal-Mag Xtra 0.132 mll
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro 0.264 mll
TriPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Bloom 0.396 mll
Man... I was reading up on the current culture website. My diy rdwc is a copycat of their undercurrent 4 bucket system. Only difference is I use electrolysis instead of air stones now. And they have a feeding chart for super Oxygenated systems like these that asks for a maximum of 350ppm on PEAK flowering ! I guess I was stunting the hell out of these plants that's why they never looked perfectly healthy. What the hell. Anyway, nothing to lose now, only learning and getting more experienced, so I will flush and refill with a weak 350 solution and let it sit for the rest of the remaining period. They're looking pretty bashed. Spots, burnt, curling... :sad: Only to make things worse I walked into the maintenance today and the CO2 was reading crazy like 8.000 ppm!!!! The solenoid on the CO2 cylinder is malfunctioning and even when the controller powered it off it stayed open ... crazeeee
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Week 11. Flowering
8 years ago
70 cm
20 hrs
25 °C
5.8
350 PPM
50 %
Nutrients 5
Sensi Cal-Mag Xtra - Advanced Nutrients
Sensi Cal-Mag Xtra 0.132 mll
TriPart Micro - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Micro 0.264 mll
TriPart Bloom - Terra Aquatica
TriPart Bloom 0.396 mll
Bumped the PPMS a little to 350 max recommended UC, super aerated. Also found my P900 LED to be stressing the plants too much, maybe too much power for the current setup, also given the plants are not 100% healthy. So I swapped for 2x full spectrum 150w CMH which I had around. Hopefully it will be easier on them and let them finish properly.
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BigDaddyK
BigDaddyKcommentedweek 58 years ago
Hi I think your nutes are too low , and I have never used those , ph needs to be at 6 -6.5 and at week 5 I'm putting at least 1000 ppm in , in my experience nutrients control most of the issues but canna are the easiest and maybe advanced nutrients the biggest yielding ( most expensive and complicated) Just looking at he plants I'd say your rootball isn't very big ( needs more oxygen ) as the bigger the roots the wider the plants - I made so many fuckups in the past and I even grew a 42 ounce monster outside only for it to go mouldy and taste like shit do to over nutrition 😂 It's all a learning curve even now I have an issue with a new seed I'm trying - my advice buy some gorilla glue fast buds - I m pumping 420 litres an hr of air through each of mine but above all don't get disheartened- it's all a learning game 😊
kunkgrow
kunkgrowcommented8 years ago
@BigDaddyK, its the Platinum P900, PAR equivalent to 1000w HID, around 500w draw from the wall...
BigDaddyK
BigDaddyKcommented8 years ago
@kunkgrow, you have a 1000 watt led ? What is it I'll have a look , if I was running a 1000watt hid I would have them 4 feet away when they little - but I would expect them to be able to take it up to 2 feet away by 5 weeks , seed quality might be an issue - auto s seem to be very temperamental, every now and again I get funny ones but I really only use fast buds , I have heard good things about Dinafem and mephisto so I'll probably try a few of theirs , are all the plants using the same reservoir ?
kunkgrow
kunkgrowcommented8 years ago
@BigDaddyK, thanks for the input! I'm going to bump it up on the next rez change. I think my LED is too powerful, I raised the light to 1,5m and they seemed to react positively.
CurrentCulture420Grown
CurrentCulture420Growncommentedweek 48 years ago
Thanks for the follow bro.👊 Following right back!
kunkgrow
kunkgrowcommented8 years ago
@CurrentCulture420Grown, Thanksss!!! I'm new at this hydro thing, lots of issues on my first run. next updated coming later tonight.
kunkgrow
kunkgrowcommentedweek 38 years ago
Guys, need some help. Check out recent pics, this is day 19 . Some leafs are showing issues. Light stress or nute burn? I am running 250ppm with 5.8ph stable RO water. 1ml/gallon 3 parth GH nutes (40 gallon system)
kunkgrow
kunkgrowcommented8 years ago
@HomegrownGenetics, thanks again! shouldn't there be more roots at this time? This is my first hydro run so everything is new!! learning day by day!
HomegrownGenetics
HomegrownGeneticscommented8 years ago
@kunkgrow, Hmmm that distance and temperature is perfect, and your roots look healthy so I wouldn't stress over the discoloration. Maybe consider removing those damaged fan leaves and allow the new healthy growth on the internodes take them over. (Unplanned defoliation?) Otherwise your parameters are dialed in like you said.
kunkgrow
kunkgrowcommented8 years ago
@HomegrownGenetics, Hi there! Thanks for stopping by. The light is now are 1,5 meters above plants and rez temp is 19C, chiller is running.
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XxxAuto
XxxAutocommentedweek 48 years ago
Nice time lapse !! 🎬
kunkgrow
kunkgrowcommentedweek 18 years ago
Well it has been 6 days since they break out , I am noticing a heavy stunted growth. Clearly they are suffering from something I am not getting track of. Anyone care to shine in some thoughts?
Lakss
Laksscommented8 years ago
@kunkgrow, calmag defi or nutes way to strong. Current culture advices half strenght if you are not using uc nutrients/ your roots look horrible. Should be white and plenty. Good roots good plants.
kunkgrow
kunkgrowcommentedweek 68 years ago
Almost Week 7 update. Explosive growth. Few mag issues apparently but they're rocking. The roots are not as massive as I've seen around on DWC but compared to where they were only a week ago, great improvement. One of them looks like its clawing and not digging the higher EC, this is the problem of central rez hydro when growing from seed, some phenos can take more feeding than others.
kunkgrow
kunkgrowcommentedweek 48 years ago
I'm looking into using some of the parts from my rDWC, taking it apart and going Ebb and Flow for the next run. It seems simpler and more fail proof. Anyway, I won't abandon ship, lets sail through this til the end!
kunkgrow
kunkgrowcommentedweek 38 years ago
I'm having an issue with my top-off reservoir. When I fill it up with 0ppm RO water, the next day the water is cloudy. I've got a pump in there to stir the water, I'm not sure what is wrong. Today I've put loads of bleach, 35% h2o2 and will let it run for a couple hours, then sterilize, clean and try to fill it up again. In case I can't maintain it long enough until next fill up I will leave it empty and only fill up as needed so I don't waste my filters.
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