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DAREdropout DAREdropout
6 years ago
~~~~~4/22/18 - Watered and fed. Nute blend: -Big Bloom: 3/4 tsp/L -Grow Big: 1/4 tsp/L -Tiger Bloom: 1/4 tsp/L -Oily Cann: 1/4 tsp/L All in 1L of pH-adjusted water. Aside from leaves starting to turn yellow, they look good. Not sure if the leaves turning yellow is from nute burn or hunger. They only started turning yellow last week when I hadn't fed them in two waterings, making me think it was hunger. I guess we'll see. The way these two suck up nutes, I dont think it'll be an issue. Worst case, I just go 2-3 waterings without feeding them again. Cleaned up some of the lower fan leaves on Mauve. Goal was to focus growth into new buds and also get more light to the buds lower on the stem. Also snipped away two large leaves covering buds on Fae--they gained noticeable size within 24 hours. Re: Mauve & Fae's genetics: A buddy of mine who I consider a cannabis connoisseur said yesterday that Mauve's sativa genetics are blatantly obvious (her "tower of flower" structure,) and he was willing to bet that Fae is an indica. Considering both came from a sativa strain mixpack, I'm doubtful that Fae is primarily indica, although she may be a hybrid. I think her bushiness is undoubtedly due to her stunted growth and her FIMing right before she bloomed. ~~~~~4/25/18 - Watered (both.) Fed (Fae.) Fae still looked yellow, and given her insatiable appetite, I guessed that she was still hungry...especially now that she's pumping out trichomes! Fed her a half liter (500 mL) of the following: -Tiger Bloom: 1/8 tsp/500mL (1/4 tsp/L) -Grow Big: 1/16 tsp/500mL (1/8 tsp/L) -Floralicious Plus: 1 drop Even if Fae gets burned, she sucks up nutes so voraciously, she'd sort herself out in a couple weeks. I can no longer say both my plants are under a foot--Mauve hit the 13" mark. If she keeps getting taller, I'll have to move the light up, or her top will get cooked. I finally got to test some soil for the first time this grow! Gave Mauve a ton (ie just over a liter) of water, and lo and behold, some runoff came out the bottom. Ran it through my soil test kit and got a long awaited glimpse at Mauve's soil conditions: N = very high. Granted I just fed her last watering, but this might explain why she burns easily. P = very high. Just where it should be during blooming. Must keep it up! K = very high. Where my crappy soil sucks in N and P, it rules in K. I've never had an issue with K in any grow to date. pH = 6.0-6.5. Just what all the literature says soil should be. The takeaway: Given Mauve's nutrient sensitivity, I'll probably lay off feeding her for a while, and continue monitoring the soil. She looks as green as ever and is shooting up like a rocket. Next watering, I'll drench Fae and test her soil too. Her nute levels will either be high enough to burn a hole through the test tubes, or 0 because she's a fatass that eats everything. ~~~~~4/27/18 - Watered + Micorbes: -Supre Myco Tea: 1/4 tsp/L The girls looked thirsty (starting to droop.) Stuck my finger in the soil, and sure enough, it was dry 1/4" down. I drenched the soil two days ago, don't know how it dried up already. Might be the extra heat from the bigger light. Whatever, all too easy to water! I also threw in some micorbes because I havent used any since I first innoculated the soil. I dont use micorbe supps regularly. I'm fairly sure that once a soil has micorbes in it, it will always have microbes in it. They reproduce on their own, and I really dont see a point in constantly putting more in. I just use molasses throughout the plant cycle to keep them happy and multiplying. Drenched Fae and collected her runoff. Was dumbfounded with the results: N: medium. This explains her yellowing leaves. P: medium. No surprise there--she's pumping out resin. K: medium. First time a plant of mine has ever made the K below high. I'm frightened. pH: 7.0-7.5. This both really concerned and baffled me. Fae gets exactly the same water as Mauve--how in the hell was Mauve's pH 6.5 but Fae's slightly alkaline?? The only difference in treatment I can think of is I give Fae more nutes than Mauve, which I'm thinking has to be the cause. Otherwise, they both get exactly the same water & nutes at the exact same times. This is why marijuana is the devil's plant...it defies all science and logic! I'm also completely bewildered at Fae's nute levels. I fed her twice in a row and her nutes are still medium-level. This plant is a black hole. There's absolutely nothing I can throw at her that will burn her. Too much isn't enough with Fae. Whatever strain she is, one of her parents is Ayahuasca, I sure of it. I'm scared to harvest her. I could probably get high just smelling her. I gave Mauve just as much water as last time, but got no runoff. I dont understand how the soil got dry enough for a 3 gallon pot to suck up 1.5L water after just 2 days. This has been a really weird week. If anyone reads these, please please PLEASE leave a comment with some insight/wisdom. Going forward: I'm going to lay off feeding Mauve until her nute levels go back down. Fae is going to get fed full doses of nutes from now on. If she doesn't burn, she'll be the first strain I've ever seen that could handle full doses.
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Experimentgreen
Experimentgreenweek 6
Hey there I was looking at your room setup, do you have any small oscillating fans in there? Also I read up about these "grow pots" "fabric pots" and apparently they keep your roots in great condition and they help to know if there's to much or little water because you can see and feel them. They're pretty inexpensive on Amazon. There's this duo who created this website growweedeasy.com and it actually had some really great info/pics etc on there. I hope she perks up for you, maybe her topping just is taking a little extra recovery time.
DAREdropout
DAREdropout
@Experimentgreen, yes, I have a little clip fan in there. I know exactly the type of pots you're talking about, and I may invest in one or two next grow. I've heard nothing but good things about them!
UncleDale
UncleDaleweek 3
@DAREdropout, sounds like you really know your stuff. In my 45 years experience I have never heard of these pre-fertilized seeds. Please tell me more about them, my man!
DAREdropout
DAREdropout
@UncleDale, lol I meant the pics of the yellow seedlings were taken before they were fertilized. It couldnt have been nute burn because I hadn't given them any nutes yet. They seem to have responded very well to the nutes, though.
UncleDale
UncleDaleweek 3
Looks to me that they have ODeed on nutes. The babies need nothing but water at this stage. And not that much water either. I really hope you haven't killed them. Good luck.
DAREdropout
DAREdropout
@UncleDale, my man, those were the babies pre-fertilized!
OGBOBBYBUSH
OGBOBBYBUSHweek 1
Good luck! Never give it up
TheMachinist
TheMachinistweek 10
you a fan of Butcher?
TheMachinist
TheMachinist
@DAREdropout, Mystery strains, so fun. Fae is perfect then, it's generally the term used to define faerie culture in fanatasy novels, known for being tricksters haha
DAREdropout
DAREdropout
@TheMachinist, Far out. I named Mauve after the color of her stem when she was a seedling. Fae got her name because after not germinating for 5 days, I went to throw her out and discovered that she had sprouted. The name Fae was to remind me to have faith that some seeds just need a little extra time. The whole reason I named them in the first place was because they were from a seed mix-pack and I have no idea what strains they are😛
TheMachinist
TheMachinist
Jim Butcher is an American author. Mauve is the name of a character, and fae is a common term in fantasy novels. Just happens I've read his work in the last couple years.
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anahatagardens
anahatagardensweek 4
What @UncleDale is saying is that they shouldn't be yellow like that. I'm new myself but I know as well that you shouldn't be feeding them until week 3/4. Looks like you need some more light too, she looks to be stretching a bit...
anahatagardens
anahatagardens
@DAREdropout, yeah I live in Portland so it’s legal as long as it’s out of public view :) It’s a great feeling!
DAREdropout
DAREdropout
@anahatagardens, Can't wait for the day when I can grow outdoors. Not an option for me yet😣
anahatagardens
anahatagardens
@DAREdropout, check this out because I just had the same symptoms of nute burn with no nutes. It's from too much water being in the soil. I gave one of my plants too much water one time, and she's taking a little while to spring back. First the leaves curled down, then the new top leaves turned yellow, now the edges of the bottom leaves are looking burnt. All the symptoms of nute burn but not nute burn lol. I've just got mine under a small led strip as well as a 90w CFL in addition to the sun on nice days. Once the weather turns she'll be moving outside.
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anahatagardens
anahatagardensweek 5
I would give them shots of water, literally shot glasses of water just around the stem when you water them. Don't soak up the entire pot because I think you may be suffocating your roots. I've been doing a lot of research the past couple days and all of your symptoms are starting to point to this. It's still reversable, they just need some TLC!!
DAREdropout
DAREdropout
@anahatagardens, I will certainly give that a try! I typically don't water until their leaves start to droop and the soil is dry 1/4 - 1/2" deep. This usually occurs every 2-3 days. What resources do use for your research? My go-to's are GrowWeedEasy.com and the staff at my local grow shop, but I'm always looking for more!
Experimentgreen
Experimentgreenweek 7
Oh I'm so sorry with your frustration.... I'm such a book nerd that I spent about a year reading before I had the courage to plant. I did read that with autos, give them as much light as possible so they'll get big, be gentle on giving them nutes, and that they can be very forgiving with abuse of some kinds like light leaks etc. I hope you at least get a couple little buds that'll give you a couple days of smoking happiness. :)