Man do these ladies love to grow. And they are strong! I can't use the velcro straps on them cause they just rip the velcro open. I had to use some tomato rope to tie the tops down cause my weights didn't do anything put give them a chance to work out and beef up apparently. The junction where I topped on one of these girls.is just this huge hulking joint. Looks like a lobster or crab arm joint.....ands its pretty big too. Excited to see what else she has up her sleeve for me