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Ensign420 Ensign420
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Introduction - Week 10 Summary - Ending this grow log and will start a new diary for next week. Throughout the week, she did not improve so decided to end her midweek and tried to germinate the last seed for this strain. Tried the cup of water technique and got a bit of hope when the seed cracked open but she never sprouted from the cube after transplant. Out of 5 seeds, only two sprouted. But only one was healthy. Not sure if it's the genetics or me (most likely me), but I could not get these seeds to grow. This run was yet another failure.. I was really hoping to make it to harvest, but maybe next time. Anyways, time to begin another grow log! I'll be trying to grow some 'OG Kush' from 'Phoenix Cannabis Seeds!' - LLAP [START OF WEEK 10] Day 01 - Monday - 12/07/2020 - Total Days: 66 ----------------------------------- - [0835]: Did a quick visual check of the room. --- Temps were at 66°F at 99% RH --- I'll check the water and add more UC Roots tonight. - [2245]: Time check to do another net basket flushing. --- Temps were at 69°F at 88% RH --- Filled a measuring cup with 2 cups of distilled water. --- Added 1mL of UC Roots --- Did not adjust the PH. --- Placed her in a new bucket and flushed the net basket and hydroton with the UC Roots solution. --- I then repeated the process and flushed again with 2 more cups. - [2300]: Checked the bucket solution. --- PH was at 5.8 --- PPMs were at 16 --- Added 8mL of UC Roots --- PH was still at 5.8 --- PPMs went up a bit to 20 --- Top fed 10mL of the new solution and placed her back. - [2305]: The humidifier was looking a bit low so refilled the tank with more tap water. --- Her root does look a bit longer. But she still looks yellow. The yellowing is mainly inner-veinal. --- I think her second set of leaves are starting to form, but they look yellow. --- Well the week just began, so going to leave everything alone and will check again tomorrow. Day 02 - Tuesday - 12/08/2020 - Total Days: 67 ----------------------------------- - [0840]: Did a quick visual check. --- Temps were at 68°F at 99% RH --- Going to plant the last seed for this run tonight. --- I'll be using the 'cup of water' method. --- Going to be soaking the seed in PH'd balanced (5.6-5.8) distilled water. --- I need to keep the water temps between 68-77°F --- I'll also need it to be dark. --- If she does not germinate, I'll end the run and next week will try a seed from a different seed bank. - [2330]: Okay! The last hurrah for this strain. Time to (attempt to) germinate the last seed! --- I cleaned and filled a small mason jar with distilled water. --- I PH'd the water down to 5.7 - [2340]: Then dropped her in! --- Temps were at 70°F at 94% RH --- Sealed the lid and wrapped the jar in foil. --- Then placed the jar on top of the bucket in the tent. --- The humidifier was getting low, so refilled that as well. --- I'll check every night to see if a tap root forms, when it does, I'll wait for it to get a few millimeters long before transplanting her into the rockwool cube. --- If nothing happens by the end of the week, I'll end the run and start a new diary (deciding between trying a sativa like Sour Diesel or another indica OG strain). --- Not going to check the bucket solution tonight and will wait until tomorrow to check PH/PPMs. Day 03 - Wednesday - 12/09/2020 - Total Days: 68 ----------------------------------- - [0700]: Did a quick visual check of the room. --- Temps were at 72°F at 80% RH --- I'll check both the jar and the water tonight. - [2315]: Okay! Time to check on the bean! --- Aye! I see a tap root! It's just barely breaking the shell, but it's there! --- Okay! Going to let her soak overnight and will transplant her into a rockwool cube tomorrow morning! --- Checked the bucket solution. --- PH was at 5.8 --- PPMs were at 20 --- Humidifier was almost empty so refilled the tank with tap water. --- Her root looks longer and there's a bit more top growth, but she is just too yellow.. Sorry girl. She's just way too stunted. --- I'll end her tomorrow morning.. --- On the positive side, stoked for the new seedling! She cracked opened within a day in the water so hope is restored for this run. --- Going to reset the tent tomorrow morning! Day 04 - Thursday - 12/10/2020 - Total Days: 69 ----------------------------------- - [0925]: Time to prep for the rockwool transplant! --- Filled a measuring cup with 1 cup of straight distilled water. --- Dropped a fresh rockwool cube into the solution. --- PH'd it down to 5.3 --- Going to let this soak for a bit while I clean the tent out. - [0930]: Okay time to reset the tent for a new seedling! --- I did not bother checking the final PH or PPMs. --- Unplugged the air pump and disconnected the air lines. --- Dumped the net basket out and drained the bucket. --- Going to soak the bucket, air stones, and net basket in bleach overnight before rinsing and drying. --- Took the tray out of the tent and gave that a good cleaning. Also cleaned the humidity dome. - [0945]: Cleaned the tent a bit by wiping down the walls and floor with hydrogen peroxide (3% strength). --- Also cleaned the fan and removed the front cover. --- I added the table back along with the heating mat and tray. --- To dissipate the heat, I used foam and cardboard to make an air gap in between the tray and heating mat. --- The light turned off at 1000, so turned it back on. - [1020]: By now the cube has been soaking for a bit so I checked on the rockwool solution. --- PH was at 6.1 --- Adjusted the PH to 5.4 --- I let the cube soak for a few minutes before removing it from the solution. --- I flipped the cube upside down and made a fairly wide, but shallow hole in the rockwool. --- I opened the jar and carefully poured out the water (making sure to leave the seed in). - [1030]: Using a pair of tweezers, I carefully placed the seed into the rockwool cube's hole (tap root down). --- I carefully pinched the hole closed. --- I sprayed the dome with distilled water before covering the tray. I opened the air vents all the way. --- Done! --- She is about 39" from the light. --- Temps were at 68°F at 60% RH --- Humidifier was turned off. --- Going to leave the light on 24/0 for a day before switching to 18/6. --- Temperature controller for the tent was set to 73°F at 55% RH --- If I did everything correctly, Hopefully she'll sprout from the cube in a day or two! --- I'll check on her again tonight. - [2245]: Okay time to check up on the cube! --- Dome temps were at 75°F at 92% RH --- Looking good as far as conditions! I finally think I've managed to dial the temps to an ideal level. I hope these levels continue to hold. --- I re-sprayed the dome with distilled water. --- I'll check again tomorrow morning. --- Thinking about a pre-veg brew for transplant. --- I still don't see the logic of not feeding her anything in a DWC setup. Maybe in soil, but not in hydro. --- For her DWC transplant, going to go with half of the recommended dosage for week 1 of veg. --- So for 3 gallons of water (11 liters) I'll be adding: --- 12mL of Rhino Skin --- 6mL of Sensi Grow A --- 6mL of Sensi Grow B --- 12mL of B-52 --- 12mL of Voodoo Juice --- 4mL of Hydroguard --- Out of curiosity, I'm still going to check PH and PPMs. But only adjust the solution if the PH goes out or range of 4.0-8.0 Day 05 - Friday - 12/11/2020 - Total Days: 70 ----------------------------------- - [0945]: Did a quick visual check. --- Dome temps were at 73°F at 83% RH --- I re-sprayed the dome with distilled water. - [2200]: Did another quick visual check on the cube. --- Dome temps were at 75°F at 73% RH --- I re-sprayed the dome with distilled water. --- Not much else I can do right now so going to check on her again tomorrow. Day 06 - Saturday - 12/12/2020 - Total Days: 71 ----------------------------------- - [0815]: Checked on the cube. --- Dome temps were at 72°F at 75% RH --- I re-sprayed the dome with distilled water PH'd to 5.5 - [1915]: Checked up on the cube again. --- Dome temps were at 74°F at 82% RH --- Sprayed the dome again with distilled water PH'd to 5.3 --- Not looking good for this run. --- I'll check again tomorrow. Day 07 - Sunday - 12/13/2020 - Total Days: 72 ----------------------------------- - [0940]: Checked on the cube. --- Dome temps were at 71°F at 71% RH --- I re-sprayed the dome with distilled water PH'd to 5.3 - [1600]: Checked on the cube again. --- Dome temps were at 71°F at 71% RH --- I re-sprayed the dome with distilled water PH'd to 5.0 and poured the rest into the tray. --- Not looking good for this run.. --- --- Going to start a new diary tomorrow using a different seed bank. --- --- I'm thinking about giving Phoenix Seeds a try by attempting to grow their OG Kush strain. Or I may try a sativa and attempt to grow some Amherst Sour Diesel by Humboldt Seeds. --- --- Going to end this run as another failure, but will start a new seed next week! --- --- There will be no further log entries. --- --- LLAP. [END OF WEEK 10]
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GACiNATI
GACiNATIweek 10
Stabilizing every single element of your , nutrients , temperature , and Most IMPORTANT your light schedules, , veg at 18/6 or 24 do not do 24 then 18/ 6 then 12 It's gonna stress the plant temperature for your water use a heat mat
GACiNATI
GACiNATI
@Ensign420, using a heat mat also I didn't put that in
GACiNATI
GACiNATI
@Ensign420,for me I haven't used rock wool but they are both ph neutrul so it should be pretty similar on that note , I put my seeds in water until they sink to the bottom on their own , take them from there put into a paper towel , let tap root pop out of shell , plant into peat moss , with a far led light above it , when I see the plant / shell coming out of the peat moss I then put it into 48 hours of darkness in a sealed plastic bag usually I come back and it's dropped its shell atleast by that point
Ensign420
Ensign420
@GACiNATI, Have any experience with seed germination in rockwool? I don't have peat moss and currently only have rockwool and hydroton as a grow medium. What method do you use to get your seeds to crack open? Do you soak them in water? 48 hours of darkness in what? Paper towels? What are the temps? I've been trying to get rockwool germination dialed in. As of right now, I've been soaking my rockwool cubes in PH'd distilled water for a bit, then I flip the cube upside down, make a shallow hole, drop the dry seed straight in, then pinch the hole close. I use a humidity dome to keep RH high until a cube pops. I'll try to germinate a cube in the dark to see if it helps (maybe wrap it in foil or something). Sorry for all the questions, I'm a complete newbie at this so trying to get this right with the grow mediums that I have.
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DougFresh
DougFreshweek 2
I’m growing the exact same in dwc. Real excited to follow this grow. I need to get some more additives
GACiNATI
GACiNATI
@DougFresh,hello my friend you took my name
Ensign420
Ensign420
@DougFresh, Nice! Yea, I'm still learning and you are more than welcome to learn as I do! Just keep in mind that I'm a complete newbie at growing (haven't grown anything in any form prior to this). So take my grows as a very rough guide because I am learning as I go and have yet to make it my first harvest. As for getting more additives for DWC, less is definitely more. I think I spent way too much on nutrients. But if you are not running a sterile bucket, I highly recommenced getting beneficial bacteria to keep the root rot under control (Hydroguard/Voodoo Juice/etc.). Also I'm learning that CalMag is very important. Also keep PPMs low. Don't make the same mistake as I did (you can check out my first grow attempt to learn from my failures). You seem to have more experience than I do. Your soil grown ladies are looking great by the way! Best of luck with your first DWC grow buddy! 🖖
BloodSweatBeers
BloodSweatBeersweek 0
This has to be the most detailed log on this entire site... and being a nerd, thats right up my ally. I'll give it a follow, good luck :)
Ensign420
Ensign420
@BloodSweatBeers, Aye thanks for the good luck! DWC is challenging, especially being a complete newbie. So I'm trying to be as detailed as possible so I (or anyone else who is trying to grow similarly) can look back as a reference (mistakes and all). I failed on my last run, but I'm hoping to make it to harvest with this one! 🖖
DougFresh
DougFreshweek 3
Why are you wanting to increase the innernodal spacing? Most people want to keep that short to get more nodes
DougFresh
DougFresh
@Ensign420, that makes sense. Guess I never really thought about stretching a plant to tie it down. I’ll be interested to see the results
Ensign420
Ensign420
@DougFresh, So I plan on ‘low-stress training’ (LST) this girl so I want more height and spacing between nodes before I start bending branches over and tying them down. Right now she’s just too short for any kind of LST. I’ll also be topping her too but not right now.
GACiNATI
GACiNATIweek 10
Are you making sure you keep you water level at the clay balls until It's got more roots ? You need to slowly lower your water level from that down when your starting a seed in and on top of that you definitely need the water temp to stay almost perfectly stable , with the roots being in water you can't let water go below 60 degrees Fahrenheit, with soil you can go to 55 degrees no issues but DWC to low of temps or to drastic of temperature swings even say 6 degrees at a time over 24 hours or less will stunt or even kill a seedling
Ensign420
Ensign420
@GACiNATI, For the next run, I plan on keeping track of my water temps. Thanks for the advice!
BloodSweatBeers
BloodSweatBeersweek 6
Have you thought about growing in coco or soilless medium? I think you'd have better luck, and its similar in terms of the micromanagment. Sorry for your loss🥀
Ensign420
Ensign420
@BloodSweatBeers, Yea, I've considered it. If the next few attempts fail, I may just try coco. But still going to try again with DWC. I've been in contact with Advanced Nutrients' customer support team and after a few emails, I think I'm going to give it another go. If not then I'll probably get a fabric pot and try my luck growing in coco coir.
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhweek 4
This is detailed as hell man.. huge props on that.. I thought I was thorough with it.. good luck!!
Ensign420
Ensign420
@Ezzjaybruh, Thanks growmie! DWC is tough...
Ferenc
Ferencweek 5
Ensign420
Ensign420
@Ferenc, I hope so!
BloodSweatBeers
BloodSweatBeersweek 5
Its growing *plays epic music
Ensign420
Ensign420
@BloodSweatBeers, Unfortunately, I lost her to root rot (*plays sad music).. But I'm trying again! Trying to run a sterile res this time to see if I can keep the root rot at bay.
BloodSweatBeers
BloodSweatBeersweek 5
Root rots a bitch, glad you caught it. DWC is too damn much for me personally, kudos
Ensign420
Ensign420
@BloodSweatBeers, Unfortunately the rot won..
BloodSweatBeers
BloodSweatBeersweek 4
I'm a broken record, but I love your data. Shes looking great :)
Ensign420
Ensign420
@BloodSweatBeers, Aye thanks for the positive vibes! I'm learning as I grow so a detailed log definitely helps. 👍 🖖
BloodSweatBeers
BloodSweatBeersweek 2
Healthy roots! looking good
Ensign420
Ensign420
@BloodSweatBeers, Thanks growmie! I just hope I can keep them healthy. 🖖
Ferenc
Ferencweek 10
Happy Growing @Ensign420
HydroGroGod
HydroGroGodweek 6
Just buy a water chiller please‼️ Check on offer up, facebook market or spend 340 on a 1/10th active aqua chiller
HydroGroGod
HydroGroGodweek 6
Switch to current culture nutrient line. U won't regret it
DoDrugs420
DoDrugs420week 10
Fire OG is exactly what my momma would've wanted me to have.
heizen
heizenweek 10
Nice grow mate, plants are looking good, keep it up, imma follow this one upclose.