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MrGreenMan MrGreenMan
4 years ago
Day 22 - Signs of preflowering appearing on DD and just appeared on CC! My pH is being brought down to 5.6-5.8 each watering, the brown spots on DD have stopped forming and on CC theyโ€™ve nearly stopped. SAH (middle one) is still a lil cripple, but Iโ€™m praying Iโ€™ve fixed the issue Iโ€™ve been having and sheโ€™s grown quite a bit in the last week regardless! Starting to get a decent smell in grow room too. - Cut a couple dead leaves off of CC at the bottom which hopefully will help. Tried LST so Iโ€™ve got direct light on the bud sites, will try bend the plants more over the coming days. Will wait for recovery of SAH before attempting anything else - Got very tight nodes on each plant so assuming that means my light distance is on point ๐Ÿคž - Upped the bloom nutes to be inline with Nebula Haze nute schedule and since a couple are preflowering they could use the extra PK Day 23 - LST recovery looking good. SAH still getting brown spots and slowed growth. Starting a 20/4 light cycle today in the hope that the darkness gives them all time to rest. This is the last shot I can take. Water is pH and calibrated and runoff is close to inflow. Literally nothing else I can do Iโ€™ve mini flushed all the plants and SAH still a lil cripple - Brought light down 2 inches to continually allow 40 moles of light Day 24 - Continued LST on all plants. DD looking good! Tested runoff yesterday, been watering daily with nutes solution, and found runoff had fallen to 5.2 ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ So gave each of the plants a full flush and will now leaves the training for a couple days to ensure full recovery. Gave nutes after flush (using coco coir). Runoff was testing at 5.8 once flushed. Will start a flush every week or so I think to minimise the build up of salts. Thought watering thoroughly each day would have been enough but maybe not - Got a new pH pen. It doesnโ€™t match the value my old one shows even after calibration. Maybe Iโ€™ve been using a dodgy pen hence my plant problems ๐Ÿ˜ข Day 25 - Ordered a TDS meter. VERY last think I can possibly do ๐Ÿ˜‚ will update on that aspect mid next week! - Realised when I changed nutrients last week Iโ€™ve developed a nitrogen toxicity. Dark green tips and โ€œthe clawโ€. Glad I noticed this one fairly early. Found a GHE nute schedule so Iโ€™ll be keeping to that. Itโ€™s one with proper values not overestimated ones. Correct ratios etc is what Iโ€™m mainly after. - DD and CC have started preflowering which I didnโ€™t think of as the official flowering stage yet so they must have started using less nitrogen. SAH is not in preflowering so the nutes I was giving her before were according to the schedule so Iโ€™m going back to that for this one seen and reducing them slightly as sheโ€™s fairly slow growing. So applying proper schedule for stage of growth for the other two and hoping they will pick up growth in the coming days with happier leaves! Day 26 - Just watered DD and CC with a 4,1,5 mix of micro gro and bloom. Keeping to the GHE feeding schedule on their website. Put 1.6ml per litre of calmag in each too hoping to give them a boost. Will water SAH with a calmag only mix soon - Pistols on DD are getting bigger and beginning of proper bud formation on the main stem ๐Ÿ˜ and CC is slightly further behind. SAH has no preflowering signs yet so Iโ€™m hoping thereโ€™s time to fix this pain in the ass issue without severely affecting yield ๐Ÿคž - LST on DD has worked out brilliantly so far, the other two are just smaller for now but with the adjustments Iโ€™m making over the next few days Iโ€™m sure theyโ€™ll pull through Day 27 - Bit too early to tell but I think Iโ€™ve sorted the N issue. Reduced nutes now appear to have helped as the leaves are not clawing like they were yesterday but will keep a close eye out - TDS pen will arrive over next couple days so can properly track that soon - Brwon spots appear to have stopped forming?? They stopped on CC and DD but SAH is still stunted I think. Nitrogen toxicity probably caused that - DD has EXPLODED this week. LST went down very well! Day 28 - Got a tdm meter and the nute mix Iโ€™m giving DD and CC is 650 ppm which is acceptable for early bloom. SAH has a ppm of 725 which is in the acceptable range for late growth with a runoff of around 825. Hopefully I can fully monitor my plants now and get SAH and CC back in check! - Runoff ppm is 50 - 100 more than I put on each plant, pH is around 5.5 so will have to flush soon. Will use a calmag only mix I think to hopefully buffer the coco a bit - New growth is looking much healthier than a few days ago. SAH and CC are still stunted I think but DD has an incredible resistance to my newbie skills!
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Grow Questions
MrGreenMan
MrGreenManstarted grow question 4 years ago
The Sweet Amnesia Haze on Day 13 (last photo in week 2) has crinkled leaves. Itโ€™s only itโ€™s second set of real leaves and I give it the same water I give to the other plants with the same properties. Does it look like thereโ€™s anything wrong?
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Shagrath
Shagrathanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi there! Most probably those leafs are damaged from being inside the seed shell or something. When leafs develop they are really really fragile to damage and even the slightest touch can make them wrinkled. I would give them few more days before doing anything differently
MrGreenMan
MrGreenManstarted grow question 4 years ago
The cotyledon leaves are dying on one of my plants, but these brown spots have spread across lower leaves that were damaged by the shell. Is this natural or is it a problem Iโ€™m unaware of? Not over-watering and pH is fine. Brown spots have appeared on tips of next leaves up now!
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GMSgrows
GMSgrowsanswered grow question 4 years ago
Your ph needs to be at 5.8 for soiless.
MrGreenMan
MrGreenManstarted grow question 4 years ago
Hello growmies out there! Doing my first grow and LST going down well, was curious a bout defoliation of all those massive fan leaves and the ones that have got the brown spots.. Can I defoliate them slowly?? Sorry to ask I just ainโ€™t sure how much stress the plants can take! ๐Ÿ˜Š
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DoDrugs420
DoDrugs420answered grow question 4 years ago
As a first time autoflower grower... ...i'm gonna go with no. But... If you really must do it apply different methods of defoliation on each of those, this way you can learn what happens when you removed X leaf, and what happens with Y leaf, and what happens with removal of X and Z leaves... i think u got the point by now. But i wouldn't do any defoliation if i was in ur shoes. (Don't belive me? Read it from the pro's) https://2fast4buds.com/news/Is-it-safe-to-defoliate-autoflowering-cannabis
MrGreenMan
MrGreenManstarted grow question 4 years ago
Iโ€™ve just read that you have to add calmag before the micros. I wasnโ€™t aware of this specific order. My plants have been struggling, is there a chance that because Iโ€™ve been adding calmag as the last before pH, this is the cause of my issues?? What other problems can this cause?
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GMSgrows
GMSgrowsanswered grow question 4 years ago
I would say your ph of your medium is out of whack. Check your runoff ph and ec levels, flora series has cal/mg so when you add to your medium if your in coco you only add 100 to 150 ppm 0.2 to 0.3 ec once every week or two.. and only if you see a deficiency. If you add cal/mg take away that amount from your other nutes so your total ec remains the same. Right now you should be 5.5 to 5.9 ph in the coco and ec should be 1.2 to 1.4 ec 600 to 700 ppm. Cheers
MrGreenMan
MrGreenManstarted grow question 4 years ago
Hello everyone, Iโ€™ve been an idiot and not buffered my coco prior to growth and this could potentially explain the problems Iโ€™ve been having I believe?? Can someone advise if this is the case and what I can do from here. Can I flush with calmag to fix it??? Or am I totally screwd
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ActioPauliana
ActioPaulianaanswered grow question 4 years ago
No you are defintly not screwed. Your plants look fine, hence you still have time to correct the issue. Get a good Calmag supplement, preferably low in N, so it wont change your nutrients ratio too much. Maybe run one fertigation with only Calmag added to the water (and pH corrector if nessercary). Just add as much Calmag as possible to get your current target EC. From there on, just add the Calmag to your regular feeding mix, at least at 50% of the recommended dose. You might have to reduce the amount of other nutrients to maintain acceptable EC. Good luck!
MrGreenMan
MrGreenManstarted grow question 4 years ago
Hello everyone! Done a bit of research into ppm and just got a meter and I just wanted to ask everyoneโ€™s opinion for autos what the best values to aim for would be for different stages of growth? Found General Hydroponics feed chart and Iโ€™m currently keeping to that.
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Canadamade420
Canadamade420answered grow question 4 years ago
Hey I also use the GHE chart and I have found it works great. I do go a little above the chart as I add purpinator to my water/nutes starting week 5 of growth at 2ml and then all the way up to 20ml(4L) for week 11. Happy growing
MrGreenMan
MrGreenManstarted grow question 4 years ago
My Sweet Amnesia Haze XL has struggled, mainly due to my rough skills. Just wanted to know if anyone has experienced autos taking 5 weeks to flower? My plant still has no preflowers but has started growing again since it was stunted. Could I have delayed it?
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DrGanj
DrGanjanswered grow question 4 years ago
If this has been delayed and is an auto, it probably wont reach full maturity now as the lifecycle is preset from the seed. It could also be the sativa genetics. I've heard some phenos of Amnesia can take a whopping 20 weeks from seed to harvest! That's an obscene time for an auto so it could just be that otherwise or a combination of both. Hope this helps
MrGreenMan
MrGreenManstarted grow question 4 years ago
Hey everyone, hope youโ€™re all safe! Following the GHE feed hart on their website and itโ€™s working wonders for my plants, however I was wanting to know when I should increase the bloom nutes? It says to up them in โ€œmid bloomโ€, but when exactly is that?
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smoke24
smoke24answered grow question 4 years ago
Check the flower time for the strain you are growing. If it says 8 weeks, then 4 weeks after flowering started would be mid bloom. Happy growing.
MrGreenMan
MrGreenManstarted grow question 4 years ago
Hey everyone, itโ€™s been 11 days now since I noticed a Nitrogen toxicity, and I adjusted feed to 650ppm and notes in ratios according to GHE feedchart (numbers in diary). Just wanted to ask if you all thought they still look like they need less Nitrogen? I could reduce calmag?
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NobodysBuds
NobodysBudsanswered grow question 4 years ago
GHE is a multipart system? which has the highest N total? ensure it also isn't the portion with the trace elements and other smaller bits. Reduce that portion of the formula mix. This will reduce N will maintaining other levels as best you can. Calculate your PPMs .. is cal-mag necessary? Magnesium can cause very dark green leaves too in high concentrations. It very well may be, and if you did this investigation when you picked it out, you can ignore me... but if it is used just because others seem to use it alot, do a little background work and see if it is actually needed or not.
MrGreenMan
MrGreenManstarted grow question 4 years ago
Hey everyone, just wanted to say itโ€™s great to find a community thatโ€™s actually like this! Love seeing support all over the place. On that note, my plants have been recovering very well. Anyone got any yield predictions? Or general pointers? Always appreciate the love
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Shagrath
Shagrathanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi there! One factor when estimating yield is the power of the light. With leds 1g/w is easily achievable and even 2g/w is possible. So with plants that size and 190W light, my estimation is somewhere between 200-300g's They are looking happy!
MrGreenMan
MrGreenManstarted grow question 4 years ago
Hey everyone, someone said that I need a better light but I though my plants were growing well? My light is a decent one, cost over 100, 190W. I thought my plants looked like they like the light I got, anyone see any reason that they need more? I stunted the smaller two btw
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Mooncat
Mooncatanswered grow question 4 years ago
I mean better lights give bigger yields but your plants are looking fine (even if a bit stressed on the pictures๐Ÿ˜œ) so dont worry and just finish it with that one... If your unsure you could put the 2 shortys a bit higher up that prob. would solve most light related ,,issues,, here. Cheers๐Ÿ˜‹
MrGreenMan
MrGreenManstarted grow question 4 years ago
Hey growers, I just wanted to ask if anyone knows where I can find info on the ppm of each nutrient required by our plants? Iโ€™m aware they need no more than 120-130 ppm of Nitrogen for autos but I wanted to know the rest of the nute requirements if anyone could assist? Thanks all
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Shagrath
Shagrathanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi! you can check the diaries of Nobodysbuds 'cos he shows what PPM levels he's using. Here is one table that shows different PPM's at differnet times with different lights. It is just a guide line t hohttps://www.angelfire.com/cantina/fourtwenty/articles/profiles.htm
MrGreenMan
MrGreenManstarted grow question 4 years ago
Hey everyone! Iโ€™m coming close to harvest on my Dark Devil Auto and I know that the leaves start showing deficiencies near harvest. Could someone just confirm thatโ€™s whatโ€™s happening to my plant as itโ€™s my first grow and many sure ๐Ÿ˜… thank you ๐Ÿ™
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Mosherd7
Mosherd7answered grow question 4 years ago
Phosphorus deficiency. Darker green leaves, purpling of stems, turning glossy or shiny. Usually when buds forming and getting bigger and Phosphorus gets pulled from the fan leaves. If not fixed, next step you will see will be pretty soon and those tiny brown spots are gonna take over quickly and turn leaves brown and crispy. Id add more florabloom to your feeding schedule. Or if you are already at a high dose. Spread the nutrients over into the next feeding that you normally do just water. Also, you do seem to have a bit of nitrogen toxicity. The claw doesnt stay that bad for weeks once the issue is fixed. Id dial your added Cal/Mag back a bit, as your FloraMicro has calcium, magnesium, and nitrogen already. Looks good though. Easily fixed.
MrGreenMan
MrGreenManstarted grow question 4 years ago
Hey everyone, wondering if you can all help me identify this nutrient problem? Believe I over did Nigrogen a while ago, and thatโ€™s fixed now, but what are these markings? Should I add more bloom nutes? All info in my diary. Thanks everyone
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The8thChevron
The8thChevronanswered grow question 4 years ago
I'm guessing its not taking up enough PK. This could be due to too much calmag or you simply need to add more. Glad the N problem is fixed, looks like that was pretty rough!
MrGreenMan
MrGreenManstarted grow question 4 years ago
Hey everyone, in mid and late flowering with my autos, all experiencing similar problems and Iโ€™m inclined to believe it could be due to a lack of Calcium? Could a Ca deficient plant cause these symptoms which resemble a PK deficiency?? Iโ€™m 100% adding enough bloom
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MrGreenMan
MrGreenMananswered grow question 4 years ago
The runoff ph and ec is on point and calibrated and I water twice a day (frequent fertigation) with runoff. Itโ€™s no buildup, itโ€™s an imbalance of nutrients but Iโ€™m not sure whoch
MrGreenMan
MrGreenManstarted grow question 4 years ago
Hey everyone, can someone take a look at my diary most recent pics. Sweet Amnesia Haze showing some deficiencies but no idea what it is, more micro needed? Using plenty bloom. All info in diary is accurate and coco runoff ph and ppm is on point
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Roberts
Robertsanswered grow question 4 years ago
You are cal mag deficient If all your numbers are in check as you say. Coco coir is a great substance to grow in beside the fact it absorbs cal mag really bad. I have about a 30 percent in my pots but after base nutrition amounts, I add 1 to 1.5 ml to a liter extra cal mag to compensate. I think I am still on lower side honestly. Good luck and happy growing. Enjoy the buds, look tasty. ๐ŸŒฒ๐ŸŒฒ๐ŸŒฒ๐Ÿ‘Š
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JooseyBuds__BLM
JooseyBuds__BLMcommentedweek 94 years ago
You are killing it my man. Always be open to learning and advice, and quit being so hard on yourself lol ;) This community is great for that. Either way, keep it up. You clearly have a niche for this if you are this successful during your first grow. You've picked some great genes! My one piece of advice is start to study the curing process. That process is just as important as the growing process itself. Happy growing!
JooseyBuds__BLM
JooseyBuds__BLMcommented4 years ago
@MrGreenMan, Of course! I am on here frequently if you ever need advice, although Im no expert. And do not forget, curing starts the second you chop your plants! So the environment they dry in is super important! I aim to keep it between 60-70F and 40-50% RH. I am currently hang-drying a Pineapple Express! I average about 7 days before they are dry enough to trim and jar.
MrGreenMan
MrGreenMancommented4 years ago
@JooseyBuds__BLM, Awh thanks man is good to hear someone experienced thinks Iโ€™ve done a decent job! ๐Ÿ˜‚ Funnily enough Iโ€™ve already fully researched curing, got mini hygrometers, mason jars, drying to the right amount planed and everything! I really want the best weed I can get! Thanks for the advice it means a lot! Love this community!
Sweet_Seeds
Sweet_Seedscommentedweek 134 years ago
Congratulations! ๐Ÿ‘ A good harvest, with a super delicious appearance. ๐Ÿ˜ Thank you very much for trusting our strains, and sharing your experience. And thank you very much again for the score of 9 out of 10!! ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ We hope you enjoy the harvest ๐Ÿ‘Œ โœ”๏ธโœ”๏ธโœ”๏ธ If you are going to start a new diary, send us a message and maybe we can help you by sending some seeds. Sweet smokes! -Apolo
MrGreenMan
MrGreenMancommented4 years ago
@Sweet_Seeds, love to see a company like this making the effort with customers keep at it and Iโ€™ll message at some point soon!
heizen
heizencommentedweek 114 years ago
Nice grow mate, plants are looking good, keep it up, imma follow this one upclose.
MrGreenMan
MrGreenMancommented4 years ago
@heizen, cheers! Pretty happy with my first attempt so far!
DreamIT
DreamITcommentedweek 134 years ago
Enjoy harvest mate ๐Ÿค ๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿ€
Igrowneil
Igrowneilcommentedweek 134 years ago
I see no problem with the girl as she's coming close to harvest, keep p.h in soil good and keep a close eyes on her leaves that there's no underlying problems ... but amazing grow pal
CachimboDaPaz
CachimboDaPazcommentedweek 134 years ago
Looking so good brother. Good luck with your grow Happy Holidays, Happy New Year and keep it lit. God Bless You
Canamatoes
Canamatoescommentedweek 124 years ago
Nice job! Happy holidays โ˜ฎ๏ธโค๏ธ
pepitogrillo
pepitogrillocommentedweek 124 years ago
good looking purps over there!
Qlimax
Qlimaxcommentedweek 114 years ago
Nice!!!๐Ÿ™‚๐Ÿ™‚๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’š
DreamIT
DreamITcommentedweek 74 years ago
Enjoy Growth๐Ÿ˜๐ŸคŸ๐ŸŒฒ๐Ÿ€
Ferenc
Ferenccommentedweek 54 years ago
Good! Keep up @MrGreenMan
Sweet_Seeds
Sweet_Seedscommentedweek 24 years ago
Thank you very much for sharing a new diary with some of our strains. ๐Ÿ˜Š We hope you enjoy it. ๐Ÿ˜‹ Sweet smokes, - Apolo
Ferenc
Ferenccommentedweek 24 years ago
Good Luck! @MrGreenMan
mrjohnson1995
mrjohnson1995commentedweek 84 years ago
CLEARLY OVERWATERED DUE TO YOU CRYING LIKE SOME GIRL ABOUT SOME CAPS .๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
MrGreenMan
MrGreenMancommented4 years ago
@mrjohnson1995, ๐Ÿ˜‚ youโ€™re such a child why donโ€™t you just stop being selfish and irritating and you literally said โ€œoverwateringโ€ on a grow diary... clearly youโ€™re the one that lacks the intellect to form an comprehensible sentence together ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
mrjohnson1995
mrjohnson1995commented4 years ago
@MrGreenMan, ๐Ÿ˜ญ HOW SLOW DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO ACTUALLY THINK I WAS TALKING ABOUT YOUR PLANTS BUT NOT HOW YOU KEEP CRYING ON ALL MY QUESTIONS NOT HELPJNG IR ANSWERING ANYTHING BUT CRYING ABOUT CAPS BUT HEY SPEEDRACER RACE ON THIS ALL CAN STOP JUST STAY OFF OUT MY LANE YOU LAME ๐Ÿ˜
MrGreenMan
MrGreenMancommented4 years ago
@mrjohnson1995, lol never overwatered my plants. Why donโ€™t you just concentrate on not killing yours lol
Sweet_Seeds
Sweet_Seedscommentedweek 44 years ago
Try to get a meter of Eq. You will be able to get better results. ๐Ÿ˜‰ Sweet smokes! - Apolo
JooseyBuds__BLM
JooseyBuds__BLMcommented4 years ago
@MrGreenMan, I second this. An EC/TDS meter will help keep track of how much you girls are eating, so you can adjust accordingly. It is also very helpful during flush, as you can make sure you flush all the nutes out of your pots. oh, and obviously measuring the PPM of your feedings. I use mine frequently. Keep up the great work famo
Sweet_Seeds
Sweet_Seedscommented4 years ago
@MrGreenMan, Yes, EC. Sorry! If you control the electrical conductivity levels, you can prevent excess salts. ๐Ÿ‘Œ Sweet smokes! - Apolo
MrGreenMan
MrGreenMancommented4 years ago
@Sweet_Seeds, eq? As in a TDS/EC?
iHateSativa
iHateSativacommentedweek 134 years ago
Happy Smoking My Friend
Charliepugdog
Charliepugdogcommentedweek 134 years ago
Beautiful flowers mate enjoy the fruits of your labour
Syrunz
Syrunzcommentedweek 134 years ago
๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ
Smokwiri
Smokwiricommentedweek 134 years ago
nice progress, keep up the good work mate ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ’ช
Jd1971
Jd1971commentedweek 94 years ago
In my opinion too many plants in the size of tent and to Bigger pots