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Super Silver Haze ILGM First Grow

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Indoor
Room Type
ScrOG
weeks 9-15, 20
LST
weeks 7-8
HST
weeks 8-11
Topping
weeks 4-9
Defoliation
weeks 7-12
FIMing
weeks 6-9, 11
Strain
00seeds2 - 00 KUSH
Super Silver Haze
ILGM
Growing it
Normal
Resistance
Strong
It's my first grow so the difficulty is hard to gauge and I do hydro so that was fun learning through haha. The plant stretches FAST! I was shocked at how high it got so stay on top of training especially if you SCROG or work indoors. Seemed to be a normal or light feeder. I'd only put 1 ML per Gallon of A and B Aquaflakes. the bud didn't seem to smell too strong but I don't think I actually reached maturity if it's not obvious its a long flower lol. has to be at least 11 or 12 weeks. could be longer. No issues with disease or pests just human error lol. I honestly dont think there is anything worth smoking harvested. Im gonna chalk this one up as a failure and just put 1 oz but maybe I got at least 7 from the closet personal grow. I had issues with the website not posting pics so i just deleted that journal entirely lumping it in with this mess. I guess the lesson here is to not be timid with training and flip fast so you don't get overwhelmed. the plant recovers so fast in transition that you can beat them up and just jump straight into flower. well at least that's what I'm going for with round 2. to add salt to the wound the odor of the drying was like gummy worms with a musk that made me want more and more. then I fell asleep with a little heater in the room raising the temp to 90F on the 3rd day of drying. I already noticed a lack in the smell so I may have just spoiled it all. Part 2 update. Alrighty, guys so the scale read about 200g of semi-dried prior to curing trimmed bud lol. A lot is trash but I may have lucked out for myself at least until the next harvest. Trimming takes forever and It makes me really bummed I didn't pull the fully matured colas of all 10 plants. man, it makes me wonder. Idk what it taste like though aside from pine sol but its a not so harsh smoke. I flushed for longer than a week so I guess thats the terps haha.
The Outcome
Week 20
Harvest
What's on the scales?
1
gram
ounce
Bud dry weight
What's on the scales?
200
gram
ounce
Bud wet weight
Harvested
10
Number of plants harvested
Grow Room
6.1
mยฒ
ftยฒ
Grow Room size
0.16
g / mยฒ
0.1
g / plant
1.64
plant / mยฒ
147.54
watt / mยฒ
Tastes like
Earthy
Pine
Woody
Feels like
90% Sativa 10% Indica

Positive effects

Creative
Hungry
Uplifted

Negative effects

Insomnia
Nutrients
I'm not sure if additives are necessary and I would highly recommend all new growers to not use them. Just from a learner's perspective, I don't know what effect each thing had because I had no control. I also picked an intermediate strain and a Sativa so I was really unprepared for the growth. the A and B are easy though. I noticed very little nute burn. PH jumped around a bit though
LOVE IT!! saved my butt so many times learning and really works wonders on root rot or for water not being chilled. think ill invest in a lot for my outdoor water systems this summer.
Lights
So I had a random scare with one of the drivers going out and really affecting the canopy. that being said the company shipped me a new driver and the second it got her the damn thing sparked on like magic haha. I have a spare though and the company cares about their products. I had amazing growth and even though my room was sealed and NOT COOLED it never peaked over 86F. Most of that heat was from the dehumidifier running too. I just wish there was more ..... simple or acquirable information on dimming and distancing lights. I have this suspicion a lot of stuff is bs and that these things could have run at half power and may have done even better that way. They just seem powerful and I wonder if its really necessary. the daisy chain and feature rock though.
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FlynnRyder FlynnRyder
3 years ago
ugh just hate myself right now lol. I feel like it would have done AMAZING had I flipped sooner and SCROG way better. I was timid and had a lot of personal obligations preventing me from staying in the garden as much as I would have liked. Its a grower! and stretches so much in early flower. Stay on top of her but I think she may make some amazing bud based on what I did have drying recently. I wish I didnt mess up the timing but I just couldnt have the second wave be held up by these mistakes and felt it best to let it go
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Grow Questions
FlynnRyder
FlynnRyderstarted grow question 3 years ago
So I am super excited did a bunch of research built the system and considered every factor I have come across. I am now into Week 3 from when my seeds popped and I am just sick of seeing them small. I don't understand where I am going wrong
Solved
Plant. Too short
Roots. Too few
Setup. Lighting
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GMSgrows
GMSgrowsanswered grow question 3 years ago
Set your ph to 5.8 set your ec to 400 ppm 0.8 ec, increase every week by 100 ppm 0.2 ec until you reach 1.6 to 1.8 ec. Keep your water cool, your maximum amount of oxygen in the water is acquired at temps of 62 to 68 ยฐ Cheers
FlynnRyder
FlynnRyderstarted grow question 3 years ago
Hey, guys don't judge me for this one but when you do res changes in hydro where do you keep your plants in net pots while you scrub down? lol. I have been putting them in a bathtub with cold water but how long will they be ok without airstones etc? I just never thought about it
Solved
Plant. Other
Roots. Other
Feeding. Other
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NobodysBuds
NobodysBudsanswered grow question 3 years ago
I'd suggest a bucket you can lift and place into... can have your typical formula in there... won't need heavy aeration for such a short period of time... a little temporary home in between.
FlynnRyder
FlynnRyderstarted grow question 3 years ago
Hey Guys, So I've been putting house and gardens amino treatment and root accelerator gold into my res and now I'm paranoid I have root rot. res is hella cold at 63 usually and they don't seem to be slimy aside from the gunk on them that I think is those additives. Is it normal?
Solved
Roots. Color - Brown
Roots. Mushy
Roots. Other
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russrahl
russrahlanswered grow question 3 years ago
I use Remo nutrients and I get the same thing sometimes. Itโ€™s like a brown gunk on the roots but not slimy and rinses off. Doesnโ€™t ever seem to hurt my plants, but I was worried when I first saw this too. It is normal I believe with some nutrients, I just rinse it off when I see it.
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Ferenc
Ferencweek 5
Good Luck! @FlynnRyder
Ferenc
Ferenc
Ferenc
Ferenc
@FlynnRyder,๐Ÿ˜
FlynnRyder
FlynnRyder
@Ferenc, Thank you!
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HAPPY91
HAPPY91week 4
I hope all goes well. Happy growing cheers!!
FlynnRyder
FlynnRyder
@HAPPY91, Thanks mate! I often overthink things and cause more damage than just leaving them be haha
Ferenc
Ferencweek 20
Happy Flowering mate ;) @FlynnRyder Time flies....
FlynnRyder
FlynnRyder
@Ferenc, dont lol :'( . I wasnt ready. the Second round should turn out much better though :). Ill make ya proud one day PA!
DreamIT
DreamITweek 7
Enjoy Growth ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘ฝ๐ŸคŸ๐Ÿ€
michael_2r1
michael_2r1week 14
Heard you mention using amino treatment from house and gardens which is expensive am I right. Here is a tip of how to create your own and far superior amino treatment which also has valuable cytokinin. Using a seed spout tea. You can sprout dry popcorn seeds or even better a dry blend of bird seeds like sunflower and millet seeds. Soak in water for 24 and paper towels for an additional 24hours using about a handful for 2 gallons of water. Lay the seeds out let most of them sprout if you can then throw them in a blender or magic bullet is best adding a cup of warm bottled water. Then put into a large measuring cup made of glass preferably as you will see three layers begin to form. The top will be a white foam and the bottom you will see all the shells and what not sinking to the bottom. But in the middle is where the gold is a yellow color thick liquid blend of cytokinin, amino acids, and everything a young plant needs to survive. As well as growth stimulating hormones found only in seedlings. Simply spoon off the top layer and you can harvest the gold once the shell material has settled. The house and gardens method is the same but they use strainers to remove the root matter. All this can be yours for the price of a $5 bird seed bag that will last a year or more with one application a month.
michael_2r1
michael_2r1
@FlynnRyder, that's great to hear. You can use bird seed is the best veg mix variety. For explosive growth. While say a week before flower and going into it corn works the best and infact. Using corn seeds prior too will help you maintain a normally stretchy plant. Say a OG for instance, and your plant will grow extra thick stems and stay squat. I will show you what I mean in my up coming week. Which will be my final one before flower. I actually just finished preparing some popcorn seeds and will snap a photo of the prosses for you. As well as how thick my stems become overall. Thanks for the follow as well. Hope your having a great grow so far.
FlynnRyder
FlynnRyder
@michael_2r1, Thanks man! always looking to be more frugal especially with all these shipping costs lately. I have a terrible memory but Ill let you know how it goes when I try it :)
motaman311
motaman311week 3
plant looks good bud, dont get stressed. She is just building up her root system and once that gets setup she will take off. I suggest burying your starter plug in the hydroton a bit more next time as it seems to help give her a little support, but it isn't necessary at all. good luck!
motaman311
motaman311
@FlynnRyder, good idea leaving room to add more later. I'm not too familiar with that product and the ingredients aren't listed, so IDK. I see that it has kelp in it, which is good stuff. I use some kelp and it seems like it helps (liquid karma). For root health I use hydroguard and great white. Great white is awesome stuff, but it makes the reservoirs a bit dirty, same with the liquid karma.
FlynnRyder
FlynnRyder
@@motaman311, Thanks mate. They actually are right at the bottom on the little hump in the current culture net pots. I was worried I'd mess up my light distance and they would reach up so I left room to add hydroton as it did. Im using root excellerator gold from hous and garden. I feel like its not meant for hydroband that could be a big problem. Thoughts?
Grisly
Grislyweek 20
Well I gotta say this diary was a great read/story regardless of the rough ending. Good luck on the next grow ๐Ÿ˜
FlynnRyder
FlynnRyder
@Grisly, THANK YOU!! I hope to do everyone proud on the second run lol. I'm extremely excited to get into shorter strains because I think I just bit off more than an inexperienced grower should have.
grzesiekkuzniak
grzesiekkuzniakweek 13
you can pull down the plants using strings....................there is too many plants not enough light issue.................you can use separate buckets and spread your plants....................your buds should much thicker.................and you wanna flower for longer then 7 weeks.................and get a PAR Meter..........................good luck
FlynnRyder
FlynnRyder
@grzesiekkuzniak, thanks mate! I'm sorry I know I suck at writing haha. I do implement a lot of LST early on in the VEG room but since they are in net pots I usually tray and just transfer them to flower. This flower is wayyyy long like you said though and my Veg room keeps outgrowing my space haha. By the time I got to flower I had to do some HST but you can see that in the new journal I just flipped. I do think you are right about the lights though and felt that I should get another one to put between them to help the middle of the canopy. Thanks for the help! :)
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhweek 20
Damn you got a jungle goin there man.. so youโ€™re thinking of an early harvest cuz you have a veg cycle of plants ready to be transferred in there?
FlynnRyder
FlynnRyder
@Ezzjaybruh, Ya mate I just flipped them today and I'll be posting on it soon :). I'm going for the perpetual harvest but I got scared training in the scrog and I lost a lot the first go. I've gained some mad respect for the community though, having gone through the whole process and seen how much this really is art with training and preplanning the canopy. I'll post the flip soon though so yall can see just how aggressively I had to super crop. I hope I didn't overdo it, had to whip out the tape for a couple of branches.
heizen
heizenweek 9
Nice grow mate, plants are looking good, keep it up, imma follow this one upclose.
FlynnRyder
FlynnRyder
@heizen, ahhhhhhhhh don't put pressure on me lol. thank you so much though and any advice is always welcome :)
DreamOn
DreamOnweek 3
Looks nice, Good luck with the grow! ๐ŸŒฑ๐Ÿ˜Ž
FlynnRyder
FlynnRyder
@DreamOn, Thanks man im so nervous haha. I literally just figured out how to respond on here
DutchGrows
DutchGrowsweek 20
Imo,maybe get rid of some plants so the big plants have more room for bending. My learning over the years is with clones you grow like 2 week then go to veg.. With seeds try to grow at least 4 weeks for a good result. And believe me every plant grow different even clones from the same plant so dont worry about that. Next grow try LST in the early stage and keep in mind you're plants will grow, (+-)2.5 times the hight when they go in veg. Btw this is all based on my experience with HPS light, but LED seems to do almost the same for me. Hope i write it down in a good way because my english is broke sometimes haha
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhweek 15
Haha man first off, Iโ€™d say take it day by day.. yeah those are probably gonna stretch a bit more, but I wouldnโ€™t say it should be too much more.. you should be proud of the fact you are where you are bro, those are fucking beasts.. Iโ€™d say your two options are super cropping (bending stems of tallest colas over horizontally), or moving lights as high as you possibly can.. maybe dim them down to 50-75%until stretching subsides? Great news is you have vigorous growth and nutes look on point. Take it day by day, you can get a lot closer to LEDs than other hot running lights, so that is to your advantage. The way those are looking tho, if it was me, Iโ€™d get lights as high as I possibly could, than bend stems if they get too close from there.. Killer looking plants tho man ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿผ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿผ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿผ
Ezzjaybruh
Ezzjaybruhweek 11
Yeah youโ€™re right at the point where I would do some substantial defoliation.. it will help with the humidity spikes you mention. Those big leaves pour humidity into the air.. check out that nebulas flowering defoliation tutorial, maybe give it a try on just some and keep others as is? Iโ€™m always looking to experiment and compare if you couldnโ€™t tell from my diaries haha.
Polaskis
Polaskisweek 7
Wowza!!! Look at thos roots ๐Ÿ˜
DoDrugs420
DoDrugs420week 20
You rock that Super Silver Haze i love it.
Cannabeast40
Cannabeast40week 20
Amazing ๐Ÿ˜ Happy harvest and good smoking ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ™Œ