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Hey all. This is just an equipment schedule and initial propagation pictures. Much less about the plants and more about the automation and acclimation settings I will be running for this grow as I try to make things a little easier for myself and create a better environment for the ladies. All pictures will be the same across Entries for all 4 girls, so no need to look at it all. Cheers and here's the Deets:
**Standard Tent Equipment**
Unit Type:
-Mammoth Pro 120, 120x120x200cm
Extraction:
-390CFM Vivosun w/ inline variable speed control and carbon filter
Intake:
-390CFM Vivosun w/ inline variable speed control
Circulation:
-x2, 30cm tower fans (early propagation)
-x2, 90cm tower fans (late propagation)
-x2, Hurricane clip on fans (Throughout full Propagation)
-x2, Computer fans for supplementary air flow at floor level (Used as needed)
Heating (supplementary):
-”Heat Bud” by Honeywell. 2 setting ceramic heater (lights off operation)
Humidity:
-1 Gallon Ultrasonic Cool Mist by “Crane”
Misc. Material/Equipment:
- Large Variety of pots of different sizes, both fabric and plastics. (Future plans for Air pots)
-Ratchets, strapping, ties, cords, patch cords, splitters and power bars
**Control Devices and Operation**
Heating:
-x1, InkBird “Plug and Play WiFi Smart Controller” (ITC-308 WiFi) automation for extraction/intake air exchanges and temp control. (Current cycle: 3min exchange every 15min)
-x1, InkBird “WiFi Greenhouse Smart Thermostat” for supplementary heater on night cycles
Humidity:
-x1, InkBird “Plug and Play Humidity Controller” HTC-200-WiFi automation for cool mist humidifier. WiFi enabled for manual overrides.
Monitoring:
-x1, InkBird “IBS-M1-WiFi Gateway” Data and Device Hub
-x1, InkBird “IBS-TH1” Humidity and Heat Reader w/ Probe (High/Middle/Centre reader)
-x1, InkBird “IBS-TH1 Plus” Humidity and Heat reader w/ Probe (Low/Middle/Master reader)
Lighting and Misc Controllers/Devices:
-x3, Digital Titan timers
-x4, indoor/outdoor Humidity and Temperature readers (Close Proxy devices)
**Parameters and Monitoring (Vegetation)**
-Humidity will be achieved through automation and will hold 60-70% RH Vegetation/ 40-50% RH Bloom
-Heat (Day) will be achieved through automation, holding 24-26 degrees in Vegetation
-Heat (Night) will be achieved through automation, holding 23-24 degrees in Vegetation
-Circulation on 24/7 and adjusted as needed (Direction/Speed/Time)
**Flowering Parameters will be achieved and set to run at 23-25 degrees (Day), 18-23 degrees (Night) and a humidity range of 35-55%, pending on stage of Bloom**
Additional Notes
-Dual 4x4 tent units are acclimated and automated, same as listed above. The only minor difference is the exhaust and Carbon Filter in the Spider Farmer unit, but each motor is 390-410CMF and will operate at the same air pressure.
-New devices for acclimation and monitoring may be installed shortly. This may include a night vision camera (custom for grow applications) and/or mechanical/electrical interlocking between equipment/devices to ensure a smooth operating system.
-Not shown in pictures/videos sent are two locations. One is where I prep and mix nutrient feedings and the other is a propagation tent for new specimens (Mammoth 90x60x60cm).
-All devices and equipment are slaved off a Surge Protection Power Bar, rated for 1500W, with the Futur Vert build having a dedicated 15amp branch cct (Installed and tested by myself)
That's honesty it. Just Copy/Pasted between entries and I will not be doing a germination entry. Below I'll just write in method quickly...then leave it at that. Cheers all!👋
**Germination Method**
-No pre-soak, direct to moist paper towel
-Wait until 3/4 to 1 inch tap root and move direct to soil medium
-Roughly 24-36 hour until sown seeds pop through soil
-It's that easy... Peace!
This be a retroactive week 2 update with Gelato OG. The quick Deets (Days 8-15):
The Good:
-Looked terrible at first and then just blew up with tremendous vigor. Same change and transplant to Super Soil by BlueSky w/ the same amazing results. They took off and I'm feeling really good about where she is right now.
The Meh:
-Strange markings. I felt maybe I got some water on a fan or something and it burned in, but the mutation persists on new sets and/or a few blades here and there. It's a non issue and I've gone through her with a fine tooth comb multiple times. She's fine, just got some weirdness going on.
-Stretchy and going to be big. Time to practice some LST and corkscrew this little one a bit, in order to try and achieve an even canopy. We'll see how that goes, haha😀
Notes of the Week:
-Got sick of doing manual slurry tests that were just a very rough estimate of soil pH. They worked well enough for awhile, but with issues I've had in the past 3 grows with an "off" medium, I just don't want to guess anymore and purchased a BlueLab Soil pH tester with Dibble built in. This and a new BlueLab Digital Liquid pH tester have made for a more confident grow, now. Not guessing and checking anymore, but have solid reads and calibration with this set👍.
-On pot up I decided to drop the Bone Meal this round and move to Dolomite lime instead (sparingly). With the P/Cal issues I had in grow 3, I would like to avoid any root zone blockage that may occur do to excess. Miicrobial mass was also purchased for this reason and is being used intermittently (usually half dose) to help break up any compounds building at the zone, and making them more bio available to the girls. I picked up this tip from @Nor_Cal_Kannabliss who walked me through using my first super soil and how to use what's there before jumping into synthetics or other nutrient lines. Works like a hot damn NorCal, thanks!😃
-Have two tent units fully operational now (except one has no lamp😅) and we are expanding. In current talks for a new peice of lighting tech that I'm really hoping goes through, so I can start using the second unit and amp up production. Both these units were built to the exact same specs... except for ones carbon filter exhaust (425 CFM vs 390 CFM). Acclimated and automated in the exact same way as well. These units will hopefully be used for future product testing and equivalency tests between lamps, nutrient lines, soils, etc... Just stuff to experiment with!
-Plan to start cloning and working out my first SOG grow once the ACMPR license comes back. Something I've always wanted to do, but didn't have access to that many plants before. So! Hopefully in a few months I can start my first 12-16 plant SOG on 4-5 week Veg.
That's it, that's all. Thanks for checking out Week 2 and I'll see you real soon for Week 1 and the girls current state as we are about to end Week 4 of Veg👍. Equipment, devices and breeder notes will be listed within Week 1 or Germination week (if I decide to do a Germ week update...). Cheers and happy trails folks!👋✊
Oof! Last one for the day. This here be Gelato OG that I've been working on. She's in her 4th week but we're going to start at Week 3 and move on from there. Will cover material, set-ups and equipment in Germination or Week 1 when I get around to retroactively updating them. This update will cover GOG for Days 15-22. The Deets!:
The Good:
-Holy vigorous. She is one of the girls I will need too (and have) done some pre-emptive LST on to control her height and rate of growth. Not a bad thing at all... and really happy to see she's so happy and moving so well.
-Dosing Microbials in the new Super soil has done wonders and I picked this tip up from a buddy. Helping the girls take what's available, hopefully gassing the soil of her reserves, and then moving slowly into a feeding schedule. It's going really well and this amended soil is doing wonders. Besides the microbials and a touch of root stim, I haven't had to do anything other then water 6.5 for two weeks (since transplanting). Happy days👍
The 'Meh':
-Gelato does have a noticeable mutation and/or marking on her fans that alternate back and forth with each new set... It's weird, really is. One side will be totally unaffected while the other shows. Next set, the opposite side shows and the other has nothing. Hmmmmm😵. I've done thorough checks and nothing is wrong with her, just not too appealing when a new set shows these white marks. And no! not bugs, mold or pathogens. Just a weird, constantly occurring markings that I may be seeing throughout her entire propagation.
-She is the fickle one... There's always one. Reacts quite easily to too much light and heat, so I've been pretty careful with her and have kinda tailored the unit to her. The other girls are fine with it, so for now the squeaky wheel gets the grease. But ya, the slightest difference in heat, humidity and light greatly affects her. VPD charts are being followed as best I can to make her happy, and the results are very positive.
Notes of the Week:
-Right off the bat, good to be back... Nice to have girls in the tent and seeing green everyday. I'll get a new set to my friend in time, fulfilling the agreement, but for now, it's just nice to have them around.
-Tent is full automated now, with Inkbird Wi-Fi line and Data Loggers in operation. Really nice not to have to touch anything! Ya, it costs money up front, but it's paying itself off in time I don't have to spend time manually opening and closing flaps, messing with everything, just to try and get some decent numbers, haha. Have cut the intake/outtake and supplementary heater power by 66% aswell, since it's been commissioned👍. No complaints.
-It wasn't on purpose, but I somehow fell into organics and it looks like I'll be 100% organics in the coming months. After some early problems, I turned to organic brands and super soils with great success and not sure if I even want to go back now... There is also a starter package of dry amendment, all organic nutrients I landed from a supplier/sponsor from EU that I'm greatly looking forward to using. After a few revelations, it just feels simpler this way. The end game was always to go organic, I just didn't expect to get into it so soon. Neat!😀
-Medicinal license is finally being processed. Got off my butt and did something I should have done the first day of legalization. I really hope to have upwards of three separate projects and units running in the next few months. It's in but who knows when it'll come back... Their window says 3 weeks to 4 months, lol! Thanks guys!😀
-Equipment listings and such will be listed in Week 1 or germination when I get to updating them👍
**Super Special Note** Where's EVA 3? Good question. She's currently hanging in an empty unit, unplugged, and the equivalency project has been postponed indefinitely. I will update any further changes when/if they arrive. Throw me a PM for further enquiries👌
**Another, another! Special Note** After posting about the incident and the falling out with that couple I was growing with (for...) I received a message from @Polaskis (Exotic Seeds) expressing empathy for the loss of my previous girls. Exotic Seeds then generously offered me a test pack and free genetics for the trouble... Should go without saying, but I'm extremely grateful for this and the community right now. Whenever I fall, whether it was my fault or not, I am continually picked up and brushed off by fantastic people. It means a lot and a serious and genuine shoutout to @Exotic_Seed for their generosity
That's it! My fingers are tired!😂 Thanks for stopping by and I'm super happy to be back in good company on GD. Much love folks and I'll be catching up with all you very soon, if I haven't already😊. Cheers and happy trails all!👋✊. Keep Cannabis Culture Alive and well!
This be Week 4 w/ the super weirdo, Gelato OG. The Deets:
The Good:
-She's alive and growing, lol. Seems to have some strength and has gone to preflower with nice initial pistils. About all I can ask for with this little one.
The 'Meh':
-Writing is on the wall, she's not going to be very pretty, hahaha.😅 The same genetic issue listed in the previous weeks is just as prevalent, has not grown out and continues to show on every new set. It's not bugs, rot, yada yada yada, it's genetic and she's just not that aesthetically pleasing. Really hoping she does have the versatility to make it to end game, however. I still try hard to love her, but my goodness, the bigger she gets, the more clear her markings are😬
Notes of the Week:
-There are some unfortunate happenings that I will go over in Week 5, but they are not happy😒. Trying to focus on the solution right now and see what I can do. If things don't go well, I'm really tempted to flip and just see what happens....
-Commissioning second SF 2000 soon, but can see there will be a heat issue with both running and them being in a smaller room now. Trying to find simple solutions to get the balance I'm looking for.
-Turning to BlueSky organics complete line now and going full organic*maybe(?)* Big change but willing to learn.
-Due to some lack of N in all girls that the soil medium couldn't keep up with, I added a small Cal/Mag dose and 2-0-0 to help color return. She worked and started to make her way back in a day.
Cheers all and I'll catch you next week with another retroactive update👍. Be well canna friends, I'll catch you all on the flip side and I wish you happy trails👋✊
**Next update I'll show close ups of all these markings I'm talking about. These pics aren't filtered but it's a bit hard to see with the flash. Will definitely show you what I'm seeing very soon👍**
Hello! I'm still behind and this will be a pretty quick (but long) update on Week 5 and 6 (Days 30-44-ish). Lots will be copy pasted between journals as symptoms and issues were persistent across the board in Week 5. So! Here's the Deets:
The Good:
-She's alive, lol! Lots going on with this girl and my mistakes are just the tip of the iceberg with her. Weird ass plant.
-Great stem and lateral strength. Even with lesser top side growth, she has rooted very, very well. This is not an issue and I'll take what I can get👍
The 'Meh":
-Omg. This plant just isn't pretty. Still the same mutations persisting and really unsure what her end game will be... She's pushing pistils but I just have this bad feeling. Watching her like a hawk now.
-The issues in Week 5 didn't help much. Pushed her into even worse health when she was already the squeaky wheel. Not fun, but below is how we got out of it and she is looking a hell of a lot better now. I see live and potential for fruit. May be an ugly ride, but just want to get her there.
Procedure and Contacts to Fix Issues:
Turned to some veteran growers and Future Harvest Nutrients themselves. If 99 people say the product is good and I'm the only one saying it's not... It's almost a guarantee it's me, not the product. So I talked at length with all of them and this is the process we came to a conclusion on:
1. My 250ppm feed was a mistake. I triggered the plants into high metabolism but did not provide near enough to support this new growth. The quick degradation of the plant was not due to poor nutrients but an inadequate amount.
2. Use of Microbials along with a very small first feed expedited their starvation as nutrients were not being held in the soil for longevity, but taken and processed immediately, leaving nothing else for them to work with. Left with just water and high soil retention.
3. Moving forward, use a full dose schedule and apply at least a 1000ppm feed to help them move again. If there are slight burns due to the amended soil, pull back 10% and keep going. And essentially, you know, FOLLOW THE SCHEDULE! lol!
4. Until issues are rectified back off on the microbials and see what their needs are before pushing too much or too little of a micro or macro. Re-apply in future every three weeks when the plants are in full force and blooming. This will also help with P/Cal take up which they will be looking for in Bloom.
Recovery:
-I did what I was told and they bounced back... sigh*😵 No crap right? HA! Followed the schedule and applied an exact 1003ppm feed (doesn't include tap ppm) at 6.3pH. Within 24 hours they perked right up and started to move super quick. Stems shoring up and growing, new laterals very strong and firm, nice bulbess node points growing with positive pressure. Everything is making a comeback.
-After 3 days of recovery I trained out and let them go. They blew up in 3-5 days and it's about time to flip.
-Once again, we lost some time with the starvation, but luckily some great people have my back and help me out whenever I do have an issue, self made or not.
Notes of the Week:
-Flipping this evening on Day 52(?...I think). Would like to start wrapping these girls up as I am actually doing what I said I was going to do, and we're amping up new projects and more plants very soon here.
-I keep things close to the chest so I won't count my chickens yet, but it does appear I will be landing a brand new 660 Watt lighting system from a very respectable maker out of Eastern Canada. This is a company and manufacture I made a point of contacting. I left all other makers alone and was both smitten and sure that this was the system for me. After some talks, we will hopefully be moving forward with this very soon. Fingers crossed!
-With the ACMPR license being processed, a new lighting system possibly on the way, and a flip this evening to bloom with the current girls; I hope to have my tents free and clear for new, LARGER grows by the end of two months, or Early February. Lots of plans that I don't feel there's a point in getting into, b/c I'll probably change my mind ten or eleven times between now and then😀.
-Spider Farmer spotted me a new SF-1000 lamp for my early Veg purposes and will not be utilized as a permanent fixture in the 2x2x3' propagation tent. Couldn't say no to a free lamp and am really happy I built a good relationship with them last year when I purchased my first SF 2000
-Frigging Genetics and nutrients flying at me in all different directions. I went from bare bones to "where the hell and when the hell will I be able to use all this"😂😂. Great problem to have! Sitting on over 100+ feminized seeds and 24 different strains with more in mail. Holy crap! Don't think I'll be needing to buy new genetics anytime soon!
-One of the two next runs will be all organic with Bluesky Organics out of BC, Canada. Love their line so far and picked up their craft kit on black Friday. Paid 75 bucks all in instead of 150! at the hydro shop. HA! can't say no to that.
Ya! So long entry, but mostly copy paste. Girls Week 7 will be updated soon and the switch has already been flipped. Time to bud up and watch em' fly😃. Cheers all and thanks for stopping by to see the mutant. Hope you all have a gooder and that your girls are doing well🙏 (or boys! Can't forget the breeders!) Peace!👋✊
If you're interested in Spider Farmer series, here's a link: https://www.spider-farmer.com/
Hahahaha! I came to do this update and realized...I haven't taken a single picture of her for the entire Week 7😂😂😂. So, I have a lot of full tent pictures that I'll try my best to time stamp, lol. Regardless of the lack of photos, here's some positive Deets on the little one:
The Good:
-The the hell... she's actually starting to look good😅. The boost to feeds doesn't fix her minor mutations and leaf oddities, but she has been looking really, really good lately. The foliar sprays really helped out and she's a pray-er now. Just became a super happy camper over night and I'm really happy for her👍
-She's got a great Stem and laterals, as previous mentioned, and now with the improved top side growth, she's definitely on her way and looking promising. Popping pistils and ready to go on the 12/12
The 'Meh':
-Don't like the mutations, but with her color coming back, I notice them a lot less. She's gonna make it... Jinx.
-Root system still feels like it coulda been better before the flip, but I trust she will fill out and improve with the adjusted feeds and microbial applications👍
Notes of the Week (I just copy paste the stuff below, you know, lol. Just a heads up!):
-These are retroactive reviews and I've already flicked the switch 7 days ago. These girls are on the move and looking ever so happy. Looking at 50% stretch all the way up to 125% with QS. Need to prop the second largest girls to QS height and a single SF will serve those two, while the second SF (without dimmer) will cover the two smaller girls in the back. There's a will, there's a way. All will be fine.
-Had a big revelation and I won't go to far into it, but after talking with a tonne of people's, including my nutrient line manufacturer, themselves, I realized...I've been underfeeding this whole time. Not a big issue at all, but I see and know now that I can go a little further and create larger plants with higher potency yields and product. But ya, I've always fed to keep them happy, but not enough for optimal growth and output. That's changed now and the move to higher EC feeds has worked wonders. Another learning curve, but really happy to have sorted it out and see it now, in Grow 5👍
-Official shoutout to Exotic Seeds. After the loss of that grow and a friend, Exotic seeds reached out and sympathized with the happenings. They offered me free beans, no strings attached. Hell yes. Free is good, but when you actually want and love the product, it's even better. With Malanasa and QS kicking it like queens in the tent, I have no reservations about Exotic and can't wait to pop a BLUE MONKEY AND TANGERINE KUSH!😃 You folks are the best and I greatly appreciate it🙏. Also a massive shout out to @Polaskis for setting this all up. Made a genuine new friend and passionate grower. Really good relationships have come my way as a result of that tough time, and I'm really happy the universe works in weird ass ways.
-Moving back into Miicrobial Mass soon to help with P/Cal and micro nutrient uptake. They're in a good place, have tones of food and I feel they will do well with some additional help. I'm going to half dose at first to see how they do, along with their next full feeding. I know not to use this much and I won't. Was suggested to use once every 3 weeks or so, by other growers that have been using this for a long time and have great results👍
**Happy/Special Announcement and something I'm a pig in poop over**
More then pleased to say I'm now officially a part of the Futur Vert Team and have become an affiliate. This is a company I had been hounding for awhile and was addiment that this was the system I wanted/needed to expand my grow experience. Well, it happened and a brand new FM8 series, 660Watt, 8 Bar full spectrum beast of a lamp is on a truck and on her way to her new home👊. I am not required to post on GD about the lamp, but I am going to anyways. I know and trust the product and will happily showcase her functions as we go alone here. I will also be getting my hands on the first WiFi dimmer/control mod from this series and can't wait to play around with some new tech. Wanted to share because this wouldn't have been a possibility at ALL if it weren't' for the love and support. Thanks for getting me here!💚
Lol! I guess that's her... Sorry for the lack of, well, everything😅. I should honestly start taking more photos of just her, because she is looking great and deserves a little lime light😊. Anywho! Thanks for stopping by everyone and I hope you have a great week out there. Keep er' honest and enjoy your projects. Peace✊👋
Hello all👋. I actually have pictures this week, hahaha. These are the photos and update for Gelato OG on Day 9 of Bloom (ya, little off again). The Deets:
The Good:
-Gelato OG has officially come on out of the gate as the most surprising girl in the tent. Love em' all, but Gelato had a hard first go, more so then any other and I had pretty low hopes for her. Flipped to Flower and she's a pig in poop now. Absolutely blew up, budding up and all around health has improved. She's all a sudden loving life and praying all day long. I didn't do a thing different... All her😃
-Starting to bud up already, gaining about .75-1 inch a day, lateral strength and stem improvement, foliar health and markings that had plagued for her since the beginning are pulling back. Hardly see any issues at all anymore. Life, overnight👍
The 'Meh':
-Over-watering, under-watered, missing key moments to prime the soil and carry her to the next day. With automation I don't check them as much so I'm setting my clock for 5pm every night to do a water check before they go into their night cycle, hahaha. Last few days I caught myself and did remember to keep them happy.
Notes of the Week:
-QS and MS have been put under the SF 2000 that has a dimmer. They still have a lot of buffer space at this time, but with this weeks progress I see where they're heading and just planning ahead. Glookies and Gelato OG are now under the non Dimmable 2000 since they're much more stout girls.
-Feeding is still going quite well with all of them and they seem to be dialed in. Not really taking any chances at the moment and just following the schedule. Picked up a little burn with the smaller girls but I backed off a tad and it grew out quickly. Non issue and really happy with Future Harvest right now. Starting to show.
-The amount they've started to eat since the switch was literally overnight and they're taking about 25% more fluid over a 24hr period. I got caught once this week with a little under watering on QS and promptly pissed her off with a little too much to make up for it, hahaha. Gotta watch this for sure as I'm certain it'll only increase from here on out.
-I'm not making any changes to my current medium for awhile, I think. Really happy with BlueSky and just going to normalize with it for a few grows. Took my punches with microbials and organic soil this round, so I'm comfortable using it from here on out and won't be messing around for awhile. Tis best for everyone involved.
-The new 660 W Futur Vet FM8 has come in! but all of these pictures are retroactive and will remain listed as SF until I make the switch or the grow is over. I will be moving at least two of the girls over to see how they do in Bloom under the new system anyways. It won't be a super accurate test (Three weeks into Bloom under SF) but it'll give me an idea and I can see test my limits before next grow👍. Gotta say though, it's frigging sweet😍. When I catch up to Week 2's update I'll post some some of many specs available on it.
At the end of the photos are a new line I picked up from BlueSky Organics. They're out of BC and I bought er' on the Black Friday sale. Next round, one of the tents will be full organic with this line and another called Organics Nutrients out of EU. Going to learn some new things and try to slowly move completely to organic growing for ease and clean(er)/less harsh salt/mineral nutrients. Cheers all and thanks for stopping by today. I think I'll be on GD a tad more for awhile cause other platforms are seriously restricting and hurting the Cannabis Community. Getting frustrating and at least here I know I would be taken down, effed over or banned for nothing... Sooooo, I'll definitely be keeping up with all of you much better. A step back actually sounds nice😺(didn't know there was a cat emoji, haha. Sweet). Peace and Merry Holiday-Christmas-Nothing? Whatever floats your boat! Be merry and enjoy your fruits. Much love and happy trails👋✊
I wanted to make this one short, but there are some details I'd like to get into with Gelato and curious if this was seen with other Seedsman's Gelatos (Let me know if it reminds me of your pheno, thanks!). This one is a little better with time stamps and this is Day 16 of Bloom w/ Gelato OG. The Deets:
The Good:
-I'm happy in general. She went from a scary start to a seemingly vigorous and happy gal when that switch was flipped. Though I feel she's kinda weird, I don't feel there is anything unhealthy or detrimental going on, just oddities and new things I haven't seen before.
-She is shedding very, very well and is getting stickier then all others. Most impressed with her early Terpene Profile. It's frigging berries man, and strong right off the hop. She is easily winning the terpene war in the FM8 tent and it's a wall of fruit when I open the tent now. That's just dandy and more then welcome👌
The 'Meh':
-So ya, there are meh's but I don't feel it's anything really bad... Her foliar is still more faded and discolored then the other girls. This has been a consistency with her since the beginning and even N/K/Mag foliar sprays didn't help too, too much. She got better, but still appeared faded like light stress. It's definitely not the lamp(s) as I've dropped their intensity over a period of days, with new growth still coming in with lack of chlorophyll. Somethings going on in the medium, but I'm not sure what.
-This will sound stupid: She is very strong but very weak and fragile. When she's good, she holds well, but any deviation from the plan or a high/low in the tent and she will start to fall apart on me. Super sensitive and picked up some early pistil browning too (paranoid the crap out of me...watching close). This and a few of her tops seem to be quite heavy with pistils looking matted down. Even with Defo, airflow, reduced light and spacing, this hasn't changed. I'm a little confused as to what she wants, exactly and have been spending a lot of time trying to find her sweet spot. When I do, it lasts for a day or two before she's pissed off again. Idk man, I think she's fine but this does throw me off a bit. Entering Week 5 of bloom now and figured if she was going to hermie she'd have done that by now, or at least shown some signs... But no balls or nanners, just a weird ass pheno.
Notes of the Week:
-It was near the end of this week that the FloraMax8 came in from FuturVert and I was able to make some moves and changes to accommodate QS's ridiculous growth rate. She is now on her own under a single SF-2000 in her own tent, dead center. Pretty much tapped out the buffer space with the lamp so the dimmable SF is being used at 65% and 45K Lux at 16-20" above canopy.
-MS, Glookies and Gelato have all been moved over to FuturVert tent now and am currently running 65% at 45-50K Lux (I know lux isn't a hard/good read, it's just all I got and I use it as a benchmark). I feel I've dialed in the light but not the environment in the new unit, just yet.
-Not too happy with my Inkbird automation right now. Devices were calibrated but fell out of whack. Two devices side by side will have a literal 3-4 degree Celsius difference and that's just not cool... These are now being used as benchmarks too and I've kinda gone back to manual acclimation to cover my ass. I see that I need something more accurate so I can actually walk away and be comfortable with the device(s) readings. That's just not the case right now. Looking at TrolMaster as a new means of control and automation.
-When I get busy in other areas of my life, even if it pertains directly to cannabis, I tend to lose sight of my own projects and make mistakes. This has been happening again and I'm taking a step back for a bit to focus on what's important. I want/need my medicine and would like to pay a little attention to my end of things before over-stepping again. I'm an obsessive fella and can fall down rabbit holes very quickly. When my focus drops it takes time to get it back and it would be best to stop doing this, lol! I'm good, girls are good, current schedules are good, just see the writing on the wall and know where I'm heading if I don't buck up.
-Have a little project for an EggHunters challenge w/ a Skunk #1. It's, ahhhh, not going too well😂. She's 14 days old and looks great today, but I stunted the crap out of her and she's maybe 6 days old looking. Have three weeks of Veg before I have to flip for the contest rules and I really don't know what to expect. Just for funsies👍
*FuturVert FM8 Update (Power-Point)*:
-Stupid powerful lamp man. Going from 240W SF's to a massive 660W FSG is a game changer and I have to be careful with this. Running at 24 inch buffer at 65% and this is achieving the 45K+ Lux rating in and by itself.
-This lamp is one of the first test models with WiFi Dimming using ZigBee Ports and controls App. This may be a feature and integral in future, but for now it's not within the system and part of my job is to run some tests to ensure there aren't any issues. So, Day 11 (Jan 29th at time of typing) of running this girl and I've had zero issues....well, a couple, but it was my input errors and lack of reading instructions! 😂
-With WiFi Control I may set the lamp intensity, on/off times, fade in's and outs (Sunset/Sunrise), Alarms, special schedules and even frigging monitor power draw and savings by plugging in your kWh rates... I had no idea it had this much going on with it and I thought this was all just for dimming. Nope, it does a lot of fun things😄. I can even make it dance and should take a video of it running it's calibration test, lol. It's fun to stare at and play with.
-So, Zero issues, plants are praying, no fade or light damage and it doesn't put out much heat at all. I don't have an IR gun but can see that this 660 puts out about as much BTU's as a single 240W SF. No fans or anything, just well engineered heat sinks to pull any heat up and away from the board. More then impressed.
-Will post actual listed specs next update if you'd all like to see them. This is getting long, however, and I'll stop here.
Cheers all and thanks for stopping by to check this girl out. I'm not worried about her, but am being vigilant for now. She has been fickle since the get-go, so I suppose her being as healthy as she is, is a win👍. Hope you all have a gooder and I'll see you later. Enjoy those puffs and Happy Frigging new year. As far as I'm concerned 2020 is over😅. Rain or shine, 2021 will be a better year. Ignore all the crap and just plug along, be happy and avoid the chaos. Taking me far too long to realize none of this is worth the anxiety and maybe some ignorance is bliss, hahaha. Peace folks! I'm rambling today, so thanks for listening to that😀
*Friendly reminder*
If you have noticed similar traits with your Gelato OG from Seedsman, please don't hesitate to send me a message and let me know if I'm doing something wrong with her, or if this is just kinda her nature. I don't know and am just curious on what to expect in the coming weeks. If you feel somethings off and she needs isolation, let me know asap. Thank you and Cheers🙏
Well hello, I didn't see you there👋. I'm a dumbass. Hey all, welcome to Week 3 with Gelato OG covering Days 17-23. The Deets:
The Good:
- Ya, so she's really good these days. She's stacking so well and getting top heavy already. She's shedding trichs at a high rate now and her terpene profile has really, really picked up the pace in the last few days. She is going to be very pungent. Yes👍.
-Cruise control. No burns, no pissy-ness, no nothing this week. This is the first time I can say I feel like she's in a good place and I'm not too paranoid anymore
The 'Meh':
-She does have weaker laterals and this is leading her to be top heavy already. Non issue and bracing has been put into place, but the damage I caused in Veg seems to be coming through right now. Just a tad weaker then she should be in my mind. Meh. I see possible yoyos in her future
-Almost there but tent acclimation is driving me nuts, ha! I changed a lot of things, so that's on me, but it needed to be done and both my units should be optimal to wrap up here in Flower. Then I'll mess around again for next Vegetation😅
Notes of the Week:
-Everyone's doing pretty well right this week and right now. I've past the paranoia stage where I'm extra vigilant about hermies. No balls or nanners going into week 6 soon, so I think we're good👍
-Re-vamping my seedling process again... but honestly it has to be done. It's the one part of growing that I feel I still don't have down at all. I struggle and stunt them almost 100% of the time, losing days here and there. After 2.5-3 Weeks I'm on my way, but this initial process is painful for me. Did a lot of talking (of course) and started grilling multiple people on their methods, specifically people I could see that had amazing expedited growth early on, prepping them for a great Veg. Lots are on IG but @Philindicus answered a bunch of my questions and b/t everyone's input I've found a new method, medium and additive to help out. Canna family provides man, and thank you Phil for giving me your time. Will be following a few of your pointers and get this right👊
-One of two tent's genetics have been picked and I'm going to keep it simple, believe it or not. Will be running x2-3 LemonGrass and x2-3 Mango Sherbet by Humbolt Seed Company. Depending on whether I go 3 or 5 G fabrics, there will be 2 and 2 or 3 and 3. The other unit hasn't been decided yet, but will be moving on lemon and mango in about a week. Rebuilt and re-acclimated the prop tent so it's ready to go again and we can have a much faster turn over. Cutting a week off per grow and hopefully next round will be a full 3 weeks cut off by starting them elsewhere.
-Bought a vaporizer from Arizer... Love it. Not wasting as much product now and still getting the job done without scorching my lungs. I do like cough lock however... and kinda miss it. Strange.
Anywho! Relatively short and Notes of the Week will be copy/pasted between entries as per the usual. Cheers all and I hope you had a great holiday. I don't know about you, but I plan on making 2021 a much better year. I let in too much chaos last year and I'm just tired.... Are you? If so, screw it. I'm going to live my life the best I can and keep all that other shit out. Anyone else with me? Sweet👍. Happy trails and happy grows all! Take care of you and yours and I'll catch you on the other side👊👋
**I keep forgetting to sign out on my laptop... Every. Bloody. Time. So I'm online a lot, but not actually here, doing most everything else on my phone. I apologize for missed messages and any perceived ghosting. It's out of forgetfulness, not a cold shoulder🙏. Anywho! On to Gelato**
This here will be an update for Gelato OG in Week 4 of Bloom up to Jan. 2nd (Days 24-30). A little better time stamps this week and only 2 days off👍. Here be the Deets for this smelly lady😀:
The Good:
-All good, really. Her stacks and terp profile are moving very quick and I'm just watching the show here. She really doesn't need much from me at all, except for feeds and watering. I love her cause I don't have to do anything!😂
-She has potential and it's all coming through now. Shedding trichs well, profile is kicking up and her bulk is noticeably moving forward and getting heavier. I'm happy, she's happy and all is well👍
The 'Meh':
-Only environmental. Weirdest winter I've seen in Alberta... It's warm. What the hell is going on! Should be -20 at least, but it's a super mild one and I'm still battling heat. If it's like this now, summer is going to be pretty bad. Time to think of an AC unit now. Save those pennies😅
-Compounded salts and had to back off. Cost me a bit of time to rectify this, but back on track and no damage done on this girl.
Notes of the Week:
-All in all things are going really well in the units this past week, but I did dial out a bit on my feeds, especially with Malanasa. All is well and just learning some more valuable lessons. Documenting everything for future so maybe, just maybe, I won't repeat this next grow.
-Moved into Royal Black this week from Future Harvest to further push some bud density and trich development. Seems to be a great little additive, but it's literally black... Super paranoid to be carrying this stuff around for manual feeds. I spill, I'm screwed😬
-Training officially ended early this week and there is nothing left to do but brace for future weight. Applied some non-static clothe to MS and QS for easier mobility and to focus some light energy direct to the tops.
-Defo is ongoing and will be slowly opening up and cutting fans as the the days progress.
-A little concerned for Malanasa's end game, but will get more into it with her update entry. She is thin, and seemingly behind her counter-parts. I have adjusted her schedule to bulk her up, but this is causing burns. She may not be as aesthetically pleasing at the end, but medicine first.
-Over-Fed but rebalanced, displaced and watered for damn near a week before going back in. I found those limits though and I feel it was worth the hassle trying to dial them in and see how far I could go. Anywho, ppm's are back in check and I've turned to my last grow method of 3/4 dose-Water-1/2 dose or 1/2-water-1/2. This completes her full schedule feeding without being too heavy handed on my end. This takes more time, but I'm far more comfortable doing this lower volume, lower EC feeding over a period of time instead of a one shot kinda deal. It works... and I'll probably be on this regiment till the end.
*Note/Opinion/Method**
Was asked about my plant health the other day and how I never seem to get droppage. I do in late day Veg, but never in flower. I use the same method I was taught in grow #2 by @Mrs_Larimar. I do not let my plants go to complete dry out, especially to the point of drooping. I see this as a completely unnecessary stress on the girls and it always felt counterintuitive to me. I wouldn't over water and drown my girls, so why would I drought them? Some say it's to purposely kill off old root systems to be replaced by new hairs (and I can get behind that) but the stress of doing this just isn't worth the risk. I achieve new root growth and remove deadage through air pruning and Hygrozyme, always replacing the old with the new. So...prime those plants and never let them get dry. Moist soil is not overwatered soil. It keeps the medium receptive to moisture and nutrients without swinging too far one way or the other and/or stops heavy/fast eating with low RH and low soil water retention. It's an extra step I can understand growers may not want to take, but trust that if you prime your soil a few hours before a feed (literally just a liter or so of plain water), the changes of prolonged drooping from that heavy feed will be mitigated and halted. Doing this for almost a year now and can't remember the last time I had a droop in flower. It just doesn't happen anymore. Credit to Larimar for teaching me this little method long ago... thought I would share it again now, as I have been getting questions here and there about my plants vigorous constitution. This is one of the biggest things I do. Prime that soil and you'll never see them droop or drought again. Thanks @Mrs_Larimar!👋👍**
That be all of it folks, thanks for stopping by. I'll get off my butt again and catch up on all your lovely ladies. I'm always impressed after coming back a week or two later to see what you all have done on your end. Lots of medicine, lots of fruit, great to see. Happy trails all. Much love and I'll check you on the flip side. Cheers✊👋
What. Is. Happenin' all you happy growers. Here be the last update for this week and it will be Mrs. Gelato OG up to her 38th day of Bloom. Here's the Deets:
The Good:
-Wicked, wicked terp profile. Can't get enough of it. She's the first one you smell when you open the tent and the only one you smell when you walk by the room. She just gasses such a heavy, pungent aroma all the time. Really excited for this one now. She's proven herself to be a beast and a trooper. All that extra crap she went through may have produced some very fine fruit👌.
-She's crazy dense and resin heavy😋. I'm really chomping at the bit here till harvest. I have nothing else to say, lol... She's a friggin wonder.
The 'Meh':
-So top heavy now she's starting to splay apart😮. Threw in a tonne of braces to ensure she doesn't split on me. Really great 'Meh' to have👍.
-Same as the other entries. Heats not too great and I'm working on a solution. Need to drop these temps for late flower as they're getting a little more dry and crispy than I'd like right now. It's all good but if this is happening in winter, summer will not go well in this room. Saving pennies for AC. Try and get it going by next grow's Bloom period.
Notes of the Week:
-All girls are on cruise control now. Besides performing some pruning and re-bracing laterals, I don't do much of anything. Feed, observe, feed, observe. Very happy but a little bored now. Chomping at the bit to go to my personal Grow #5🙌. Genetics are picked for Tent #1/Part #1 and I'll be moving on it relatively soon. Will list the genetics chosen in near future👍.
-Gelato OG and Quick Sherbet appear that they will be wrapping up within 14 days (at time of typing this) w/ Malanasa and Glookies looking like 2.5-3. All a week past breeders latest projections, but again, I feel my feeding schedules were off and my mid Bloom schedule warped their time line. Tad more time to bulk up, anyways. No problemo.
-FM8 is stupid and I love it. The trich and cola Dev. on the girls under her is impressive and I'm starting to see what it can do, personally. I really need next grow and a direct comparison to make hard line opinions on the system. For now, it is certainly evident that the girls are bulking far faster under the FM8 the previously under the SF series.
-I don't have them in my possession yet but they are in the mail. Tent #2/Part #2 of this upcoming project will include.... @Wicked_Stix genetics!!!!! Through and with a Mr. @Budxs (Thanks Bud!) we will be running some very special beans...and I'm nervous. Only one shot per and I must be diligent. The three genetics being run include: Frozen Diesel! Herecane! and Platonium! In House Genetic Crosses and more than humbled to get a shot at these beans. Wicked is no joke and he has proof out the butt-hole that he knows what he's doing. That Frozen Diesel alone should be proof enough of this dude's abilities. If you haven't seen it yet, please go check out this girl on his page. She's wrapping up and is pure, bulbous sugar buds. My God. A pre-emtive thank you to @Wicked_Stix for the opportunity and to @Budxs for helping set this up and send a set my way. Cheers boys👌.
-I mentioned it previously, but my seeding method is changing now. All new methods have been thoroughly spoken about, a new soil media has been chosen and Canna Rhizotonic XP (Seaweed/Kelp) will be introduced early on in the seedling stage to assist in nutrient/oxygen exchange. I have these peoples results and am confident in their methods. I look forward to trying and refine the piece I feel I'm really missing here.
That's it, that's all. Cheers and happy trails folks. Have a gooder and take er' nice and easy👌. I'll check ya later. Peeeeeeece✊👋.
*Frigging shoutout to FuturVert and this incredibly impressive system. Can't get enough of it and purposely bask in it everyday for some frigging sunlight in the middle of winter😅. My dog found it and decided he likes taking naps in the rays when I open the side flap. Both my cat and dog didn't care about the SF's but when this thing went up they both just gravitated towards it and literally follow me around until I open the tent. Haha! Anyway Cheers to a company that isn't a pile of BS and you do get exactly what they advertise. Not looking back👊*
*Not for pity, but needed a break so I took one. Feel I over stepped and my plate was too full, leading to some mental health issues. Hit a low and decided it was best to take care of myself a little better during last week. All is well and I'm coming out of it, but it sucked pretty hard for awhile there. I did the right thing and reached out for help. I'm telling you this because mental health isn't a joke and many of us cannabis users/growers have a history of depression and/or anxiety. If this is you and you're in a rough spot, please give someone a call and express what's going on. Someone you can trust not to judge and just listen. If you don't have someone, drop me a line in PM. Thanks all🙏*
Soooo, because of the above👆 I really fell behind and updates will be permanently wonky now. Like.... Gelato has been harvested, lol! There's some catching up to do and timestamps will be ballparked. Way too much to go through and sort out, so imma let it go and just do my best with the remainder for these diaries. So here's Gelato OG from Day 38 to about Day 46(?). The Deets!:
The Good:
-Tonnes of good but this'll be short. I love her, simple as that. She's putting on incredible weight, shedding very, very well and is one smelly lady. She's moving fast and already starting to wrap up. The mass she put on in such a short time is incredibly impressive. The quality of the bud is high end I'm already looking for another bean for a momma plant. She's a keeper and I can already highly recommend this girl to anyone looking for a super heavy indie Dom.
The 'Meh':
-Heat, still. AC unit is being planned.
Notes of the Week:
-Everyone is starting to turn in with Glookies looking like she'll be the last to finish up. At the time of typing this, Gelato has already gotten the chop, Quick Sherbet will come down tomorrow (Feb 3rd) and Glookies/Malanasa will probably both come down on Saturday (Feb 6th).
-Project #1, Tent #1 genetics have been chosen (officially). Will be running Lemon-Grass and Mango Sherbet by HSC, Blue Monkey by Exotic Seeds and Fat Banana from Seedsman. We ready to go, time to pop.
-@WickedStix_ genetics came in the mail several days ago and all looks good. Doesn't look the cold or shipping messed them up and they're good to go for Project #2, Tent #2. Frozen Diesel is going to be stupid good folks. Pretty excited to get going on these ones... Thanks once again to Budx and Wicked for paying it forward and just being good people.
-Seedling method will/is changing. Grilled multiple veteran growers on their methods and I've finally come to a conclusion... I've been cooking my seeds😬. Soil media has been far too warm/hot for such young girls and this explains their limited root system and early stunting. As soon as I transplanted in the past, they took off and all was well. No heat matt...more media. It took me 4 grows to figure this out. Wow😂. Anywho, learned a new method to use the heat mat but still reduce media temps. Will list this below (and yes, it worked). Thanks @Nor_Cal_Kannabliss!
-Dipping into Canna now, and will probably be leaving FutureHarvest behind for a much more simple schedule. As previously mentioned, I'm happy with FH, but why so many additives/nutrients. Compile them! I really don't like having to measure out 11 doses from 11 bottles every frigging time. Canna results and schedules are impressive, so I've started to make the move. Rhizotonic XP is the first buy and will be used for the seedling process in order to expedite early growth. Hoping to land their whole line before it's time to start feeding the new girls who are just in BlueSky super soil and have been fed Miicrobial Mass. Around 3 weeks will be when feeding starts. I'm pretty sure I can get things in order before than.
Well, that's her! Notes of the Week will be copy paste, as well as the heat mat method I will list below, courtesy of NorCal. Hope you all have a gooder and I'm hoping to find time to catch up on all your projects. I haven't even been on GD for about 8 days, so I have no idea what's going down on here anymore, hahaha. Anywho, cheers and happy trails all. See ya real soon👋✊
*Heat Mat Method*
I don't have the heat mat thermostat to control. It cost more than the mat so I said screw that, but now I see I do need a means of regulation. I had some InkBird readers w/ probes kicking around, including two inline thermostats with probes. Cheaper than the thermostats and doesn't have to be InkBird...like at all. There's many options. Anywho, NorCal told me to take that inline and plug the heat mat into it. Take plastic wrap and cover the probe tip to protect from any erosion. Than make up a faux* pot of soil with the same amount of media and water as the actual seedling pots. Shove the probe in the soil and boom, direct read and direct control over the heat mat. Set to always hover between 72-74 degrees (21-22 degrees Celsius). The ambient tent temperature and humidity are now held at 76 degrees and 65-75% RH. Method and dialing in has been accomplished! Confident moving to next grow👍. If this is helpful, thank NorCal for this hot tip. Just another thing I feel I can check off the list moving forward.
Jinksy's Tired! So, we're going to wrap things up here. Gelato has long been chopped and came down on Day 59 of Bloom. These Photos are of her on her final day and Cover Day 47-59. It was a wierd finish peeps! The Deets:
The Good:
-She is still super chunky, super pungent and did really well in her final ripening stage. Got some really good phenos pop and she didn't degrade! Decent fade throughout and she was on her way out.
-Form held really well with her, which was nice. She had much weaker laterals than her sisters in previous weeks, but she shored up well in Bloom and carried her weight.
The Bad:
-First time in a long time there was something actually Bad. I did a final and full final flush as I was planning on chopping her in three days (Day 62). After I fed I saw something...Shit. Clear as day lime green bulbess seed sack😕. Pulled it and opened it. Yep. Under-developed by still seeding. Took a sample bud and dug deep. There was more new plant life and seeds occurring just about everywhere. Emergency chop time, but she was soaking wet now. There was no time for a dry out and 3 days was a dog's age for the seeds to develop further. I panicked, took fast final photos and chopped her down 8 hours after lights on. I know for a fact this will affect the final product but not entirely sure just how much. Shit happens, but ouch! Guess I should be grateful I saw that little lime green top or this coulda been much worse.
The 'Meh':
-The emergency chop was a big Meh, so was drying. I wasn't prepared for this and had no where to dry them. I didn't want to move Glookies in with the other girls because I was uncertain if she had been seeded as well. It was too big a risk and I'll note my findings on Glook in her final update. The dry area was too cold and RH was brutal. They dried like a popcorn fart. Another Oof. Thank God for boveda's, but some damage was done here... Super.
Notes of the Week:
-Keep this short. Glookies is under observation but seems okay. Gelato seeding seems to be isolated and no one else is showing new signs of seed development. Chops are still scheduled the same, but Glookies will be run down faster to avoid any further issues and chopped before MS now.
-Project #5 is already underway and doing pretty well. Trying new things again so there's speed bumps, but will hopefully get through it like I have before. Time will tell. Gotta pull back on the new methods again though. Too many new things at once.
-It's been about -30 to -40 degrees for two-ish weeks and RH is a stupid 10-15%. Wreaking havoc on the girls and I'm struggling to keep things in balance. This is part of why I'm struggling and the girls aren't 100%. Supposed to warm up soon but the weather man keeps frigging lying to us! Tell us the truth Jerk!
Mmk! That was considerably short for a 13 day update. Hope you all had a real good couple weeks and the new diaries will be up soon. Still not sure if they'll be full journals as life is getting busier, but I'll definitely be around. Not going to be building the journals for any contest entries anymore, so Imma merge things and/or take it easy on updates. I can't help but write a lot and I feel it'll be a lot easier if I move to 2 journals instead of 4, or start doing 2 week updates instead of one weeker's. We shall soon see. Cheers all! Grow Big!✊👋
Wow! Such an amazing job already 👏 and a special thanks to my new friend for the shout out! I'm glad we could turn that frown upside down @Exotic_Seed 💯 good luck with grow! 👊
@JinksyGrows, shipping nuts right now. Xmas is coming up and I think I broke the top of my mailbox checking every 5 minutes 🤤 mine just came Friday so yours should not be to far behind 👍 super excited to be growing with the community 💯
Looking very happy healthy and strong. Very well organized looking and shaped. Keep up the amazing progress. Good luck stay safe happy growing cheers!!!!!
Congrats on the affiliate team membership (not sure how this works but I think it means you're sponsored now,) awesome! Congrats on the new light, too! Looking forward to the posts on it!
@SymphonicBudz, Howdy! Thanks a tonne my friend🙏. Lamp came in yesterday and running initial tests. It is a sponsorship and one I was after for a loooong time😅. Something I believe in and Canadian made💪. Will post pictures next retroactive update.
@Buddha2, I do have a couple clip on fans with one over each driver. But I feel it's the new room I'm in. Much smaller and heat builds/insulates quickly. Might need an AC unit when I commission the second unit.... Its gonna get pretty warm in ther 😅.
@Med_in_Tropic, It does and that's gotta be the difference. UVA and deep/far red that we can only see through lenses. The high frequency penetration is closer to sun light than the SF's. If I throw UVB in, my pets are set for life😅. Oh, and the plants too I guess, lol!
@JinksyGrows, does the set up has invisible spectrum in it?
My black dog does like sun bathing and its not for the warmth. Some dog beauty secret I think.
@Med_in_Tropic, Haha, it was a surprise because the dog never, ever comes downstairs. Now he just hangs around the room waiting to get in😄. I trust they know far better than me when it comes to the lamps quality. Animal validation👊
heloo... I dont think its your fault not to log off the site... everytime i try to log off... there is a error message.. says.. unable to do this...
But back to the Ladies.....
😍💪👌
@Mrs_Larimar, Hahaha. I feel better now😅😅. I still haven't learned. I was logged in for 4 days this week without knowing, lol. Ladies are 😍💪 for sure. Thanks you Mrs. L😊