TheBudWhisperer 12 hours on the soak and 36 in the towel. She popped along with the rest like clockwork. Hopefully it translates to a strong seedling๐ค.
Tip Oโ The Week
A couple things really - Iโve slapped together a miniaturized 3 gallon cloning/seedling res. for starting off dwc grows. Itโs on a 3 stone bubbler, with a 4 way drip manifold thatโs feeding each net pot. For large photo grows weโll go with a full size net pot but for clones and autos these 3โ ones usually suffice. Weโre only runnโn one of the 100W Spider Farmers until we see the first 2 leaves. Then weโll go full on with the other fixture.
if ur working with rooters slice em right open. It gives the tap root a lot more room to move with a lot less resistance๐. The goal is to get the roots to the res. As quick as possible. Even with the manifold drips, this is an auto so time really matters here. Which goes to the next tip - a small layer of hydroton below the rooter so that you keep it as low as possible in the net pot. Yet still you wanna be high enough to ensure that you fill it as much as possible to avoid leakโn light in any of the res. below.
Light leaks are literally kryptonite for water based hydro grows. Donโt fuck around, tape all openings, have a tight fitting lid and cover your net pots with something as best as possible. In this case Iโm using silicon cutouts of a couple $14 dollar mats from canadian tire. But Iโve seen peeps use bedsheets, towels, excessive amounts of tape - whatever. As long as you keep light out of the res. at all costs. Especially early when u wonโt have leaves to provide shade and that grow light is beatโn down on โer - the rest of the grow should be good to go๐. Stay tuned for next week too! Weโll have a whole โnother bunch of bullshit to spew about air bubblers, early nutes, foliar spraying and seedling progression๐๐ค. Questions, comments and clarification always welcome๐.
Background
From Exotic Seeds, Herz OG is a 4th gen. Cross of GG4 and black lemon autos, crossed again with a photo Herz OG mother. Supposedly piney, honey and woody tones with a calm relaxing effect. Just what the lady of the house ordered. Sheโll be straight DWC like the rest. 2 weeks on the drip line and depending on how they all do, this may be the girl that stays under the Spider Farmers for the duration. My first go with Exotic so no idea what weโre in for. Letโs hope sheโs a beast๐ค.
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Paper Towel
Germination Method
1
Week 1. Vegetation
6y ago
1/8
2.54 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
24 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.2
pH
No Smell
Smell
420 PPM
TDS
50 %
Air Humidity
18 ยฐC
Solution Temp
18 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
17 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
0.95 liters
Watering Volume
60.96 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 2
DryPart Grow
2.604 mll
Liquid Karma
1 mll
TheBudWhisperer Week 2 update - sheโs up, on the grow and lookโn good. Right on schedule in all respects. Fired up the 2nd veg. Light now that theyโre all up and showing leaves. Well run on a 20/4 sched. Through the whole grow and push em as much as possible. I donโt generally go easy on autos due to the time sensitivity. They get a karma foliar spray twice daily and only a couple small top offs of the res. Expect weโll be moving her over to a stand-alone 5gal bucket in a couple days once the roots hit the res. In earnest๐.
Tip โO The Week
A word on nutes and oxygen this week. We only use the karma as a foliar now for the most part. The NPK concentrations are really light so itโs the perfect supplement for seedlings. Does it help? Maybe? We use it but really - you can get by without it ๐ฏ. Whatโs super awesome is the simplicity of GHEโs maxi line of nutes. Their powdered, come with their own measuring spoon and the bags last forever. Itโs a max of 2-3tsp per 10L of water and it will provide the plants with everything they need throughout the entire cycle. Weโll probably add in some additional supplements for flowering (just cuz we have some) but itโs not a requirement at all. Nutes, like all the other elements in a hydro system are just one part of the equation. We treat them like vitamins now - we worry less about running at the top of the range amd more about ensuring that the mix is juuust enough to keep em happy.
Which brings us to the other requisites such as proper oxygenation of the res. Root health in any medium is driven by access to readily available oxygen. This is why we add purlite to thick soils/composts and also why coco coir will work as a stand-alone due to its airy consistency. In water based hydro applications like DWC, this need is met through air stones and air pumps which will further oxygenate the water. When it comes to air pumps GET A DECENT ONE. Donโt bother wasting your money on the lowest powered aquarium pump that you can find. Spend a little more and go with a 4 port model if you can. Iโve got 2 and have found them to be the perfect balance between appropriate air flow and noise reduction. You donโt need a commercial grade pump that turns the res. Into a jacuzzi (although this wouldnt hurt at all) and these pumps are LOUD as fuck for the average hobby grower. Always use LARGE air stones - the bigggest ones you can fit in the res. More surface area on the stone = more air bubbles = more oxygen = happier plant.
When growing in water, keeping the res. Aerated and agitated may be the most important element to ensure healthy roots IMO. even when ur struggling with other issues like temps, having the medium properly oxygenated will go a long way to offsetting even significant variance. By all means cheap out where you can on all things growing - except when it comes to air pumps. Itโs just not worth the wasted time - trust me. Do this and youโre plants will be burstโn behemoths of bud๐๐.
Thatโs all for this weeks blathering bullshit yโall. Stay tuned for next week where weโll be talkโn on res. Change frequency as well as training technique selection based on growth rate. Hereโs to hopeโn ur as high as I am right now๐๐๐๐.
Background
From Exotic Seeds, Herz OG is a 4th gen. Cross of GG4 and black lemon autos, crossed again with a photo Herz OG mother. Supposedly piney, honey and woody tones with a calm relaxing effect. Just what the lady of the house ordered. Sheโll be straight DWC like the rest. 2 weeks on the drip line and depending on how they all do, this may be the girl that stays under the Spider Farmers for the duration. My first go with Exotic so no idea what weโre in for. Letโs hope sheโs a beast๐ค.
Iโve included a weekly tip forum for those new to the game that have an interest in trying out water based hydroponics. Itโs vetted, reliable info that will hopefully help you avoid weeks of lost time and failed attempts. Comments, questions and discussion are always welcome๐.
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Week 2. Vegetation
6y ago
1/9
7.62 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
24 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.2
pH
No Smell
Smell
420 PPM
TDS
50 %
Air Humidity
18 ยฐC
Solution Temp
18 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
17 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
0.95 liters
Watering Volume
60.96 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 2
DryPart Grow
3.906 mll
Cal-Mag Plus
1 mll
TheBudWhisperer Week 3 update - sheโs a healthy, hungry monster and you can practically watch her getting bigger๐. She was showing the 4th node prominently by the end of this week and was ripe for a haircut๐. Alls good for now. Letโs just hope she acclimates to the stress and the res. Change.
Tip โO the Week
Iโve said it so many times before and Iโll continue to preach that fimming is just so perfectly appropriate for autos. You donโt have near the recovery time that you have with topping. This allows the plant a longer unstressed veg. Time prior to hitting flower. Even if the fim doesnโt take as preferred youโve still broken some of the apical dominance and allowed the other side branches an opportunity to catch up. If youโre topping and the plant doesnโt respond well then you lose significant veg. Time or even have the plant enter flower early. Both options are less than ideal in the event of failure so why create the risk in the first place? Itโs a personal preference for every grower in the end. This just makes proper sense to me๐.
Iโm expecting next weekโll be all about the training so should be soap boxing on lst methods and other nonsense. Thanks for swingโn in as always๐.
Background
From Exotic Seeds, Herz OG is a 4th gen. Cross of GG4 and black lemon autos, crossed again with a photo Herz OG mother. Supposedly piney, honey and woody tones with a calm relaxing effect. Just what the lady of the house ordered. Sheโll be straight DWC like the rest. 2 weeks on the drip line and depending on how they all do, this may be the girl that stays under the Spider Farmers for the duration. My first go with Exotic so no idea what weโre in for. Letโs hope sheโs a beast๐ค.
Iโve included a weekly tip forum for those new to the game that have an interest in trying out water based hydroponics. Itโs vetted, reliable info that will hopefully help you avoid weeks of lost time and failed attempts. Comments, questions and discussion are always welcome๐.
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LST
Technique
FIMing
Technique
3
Week 3. Vegetation
6y ago
1/8
15.24 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
24 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.2
pH
Weak
Smell
420 PPM
TDS
30 %
Air Humidity
18 ยฐC
Solution Temp
18 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
17 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
0.95 liters
Watering Volume
60.96 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 2
DryPart Grow
3.906 mll
Cal-Mag Plus
1 mll
TheBudWhisperer Week 3 of veg. and all is proceeding well. She came outta the fim perfectly and now itโs all spreading and tying while we wait for the stretch.๐ค๐๐
Tip โO The Week
At the end of last week we fimโd this one so this week was all about the recovery and training. After the cut and pinch she balled up on herself for about a day and then boom! Over a period of about 48 hours she went from a singular growth tip to like 10. We started the LST almost immediately. First bending over the fimโd main and then spreading the side branches as they came out. No real trick to this, just bend Em the way theyโre growing and tie em in place with some rubber wire. Weโve got anchor points taped all over the res. Lid. Itโs just over the last couple of days that sheโs started to look like sheโs entering transition. Woulda preferred an extra week of veg. But is what it is. We did selectively defo a couple of leaves out of the middle and on the lower sides. This was strictly to increase light exposure to the smaller tips that are now stretching and branching out from the middle. All told for this week, weโve created a solid foundation for the stretch and flower shows๐. Only real tip for week 3 is to keep a close eye on ph and water levels. When running small like this itโs important to gauge early what the plants expected intake is gonna be. Not only that, weโre on the first res. Change and as a general rule, our water always ends up with a high ph once in the res. This is after buffering the solution too so for the first couple days post change, weโre super diligent about checking the levels. Thatโs it for this weeks wasted time. Hope alls well and safe on the other end๐.
Background
From Exotic Seeds, Herz OG is a 4th gen. Cross of GG4 and black lemon autos, crossed again with a photo Herz OG mother. Supposedly piney, honey and woody tones with a calm relaxing effect. Just what the lady of the house ordered. Sheโll be straight DWC like the rest. 2 weeks on the drip line and depending on how they all do, this may be the girl that stays under the Spider Farmers for the duration. My first go with Exotic so no idea what weโre in for. Letโs hope sheโs a beast๐ค.
Iโve included a weekly tip forum for those new to the game that have an interest in trying out water based hydroponics. Itโs vetted, reliable info that will hopefully help you avoid weeks of lost time and failed attempts. Comments, questions and discussion are always welcome๐.
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LST
Technique
Defoliation
Technique
4
Week 4. Vegetation
6y ago
1/7
22.86 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
24 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.2
pH
Normal
Smell
420 PPM
TDS
40 %
Air Humidity
18 ยฐC
Solution Temp
18 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
17 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
0.95 liters
Watering Volume
50.8 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 2
DryPart Grow
3.906 mll
Cal-Mag Plus
1 mll
TheBudWhisperer End of week 4 of veg. - sheโs come on super strong the last few days. Sheโs officially in to transition now, albeit about a week earlier than preferred, even for an auto. Tore โer down at the end of the week to open up some air flow and make room for the stretch. Letโs hope itโs a strong stretch too because sheโs a squat little beast. Really healthy, really vigorous and no issues to date๐. All well for the upcoming holidays yโall.๐
Tip โO The Week
This week Iโm gonna rant a little on defoliation. I know... a pretty controversial topic if you talk to anyone whoโs got some grow background. Thereโs the school that says itโs silly and ridiculous - โjust let the plant growโ types. Then thereโs the school that swears by it as the sole reason for their increased yields - to the point theyโre willing to strip the plant nude and rely on straight sugar leaves to provide photosynthesis. Truth be told and when experience speaks that truth๐, neither one of those perspectives is necessarily wrong IMO - the best of both worlds is actually in the middle anyway, between the two extremes. Like most things in growing, you need to ask yourself what youโre trying to accomplish when you defoliate your plants. Is it increased yields? Intentional stunting? Easier maintenance? Mold avoidance - aka better airflow? Once youโve decided on whatโs to be accomplished, you then need to consider your environment. Not just indoors vs. Outdoors but also light types, and environmental variance between spaces. For example, Iโll almost eliminate defoliation as an option when growing outdoors. It seems generally unnecessary and if I want increased airflow then Iโm usually cutting full branches that just donโt look like a good use of the plants energy. The wind and sun really are game changers when it comes to growing anything and outdoor is really itโs own game alone๐. Consequently, defo is an almost necessary practice for me indoors but, the techniques I employ will vary based on which of my cabinets is in use and even what season of the year weโre in.
In this particular case, this plant is coming up in our smaller cabinet and just started the transition (in fact, weโre early by a couple days). Given the plants small stature and the need to have each bud site produce as much as possible - we cut this one back pretty heavy, leaving only the highest and smallest fan leaves on each cola (+ a few on the outside that arenโt shading anything. This approach is really due to the grow light - these spiderfarmers are excellent fixtures but Iโve found them less intense overall than the cobs in the other cabinet. With the penetration from the cob lights u you can turn even the smallest larf into useable popcorn bud whereas with the quantum boards, the buds really seem to benefit from greater overall exposure and grow much more uniformly and characteristically to their strain genetics. Although high humidity and temps arenโt really an issue in this environment, the increased airflow does assist with keeping things less jumbled up in the middle of the canopy.๐
So is there a place for defoliation, absolutely. But, you should always be asking yourself why youโre doing it. End of the day itโs still damaging the plant and taking away something thatโs it genetically accustomed to growing. But, if you do it right and do it strategically, defoโing your plants can pay huge dividends. At least thatโs the hope with this girl ๐๐๐๐.
With that tirade โo bullshit now complete, I will disengage the soapbox and re-pack the bong๐๐ค. Stay lit yโall!๐
Background
From Exotic Seeds, Herz OG is a 4th gen. Cross of GG4 and black lemon autos, crossed again with a photo Herz OG mother. Supposedly piney, honey and woody tones with a calm relaxing effect. Just what the lady of the house ordered. Sheโll be straight DWC like the rest. 2 weeks on the drip line and depending on how they all do, this may be the girl that stays under the Spider Farmers for the duration. My first go with Exotic so no idea what weโre in for. Letโs hope sheโs a beast๐ค.
Iโve included a weekly tip forum for those new to the game that have an interest in trying out water based hydroponics. Itโs vetted, reliable info that will hopefully help you avoid weeks of lost time and failed attempts. Comments, questions and discussion are always welcome๐.
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Technique
Defoliation
Technique
5
Week 5. Flowering
6y ago
1/8
30.48 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
24 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.2
pH
Normal
Smell
420 PPM
TDS
40 %
Air Humidity
18 ยฐC
Solution Temp
18 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
17 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
3.79 liters
Watering Volume
50.8 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 3
DryPart Grow
2.604 mll
DryPart Bloom
0.651 mll
Cal-Mag Plus
1 mll
TheBudWhisperer Week 5 update - well, as per the photos sheโs fully exploded over the last few days. She was on the re-leaf a day after the defo and that gave all these additional tops a chance to spring up and stretch to meet the mains. The base looks like a mangled, bulging mess and the effects of the fim are really evident now๐. For the first week of flower the bud sites are stacking admirably, given the significant amount of stretch in the branches. Sheโs showing some slight signs of tip burn at the end of this week so we dropped the mix by half a teaspoon just to ease up on โer a bit. Itโs nice to be at the top end of the mix ratio but, I never like overdoing it in early flower. She needs to be focused solely on stretchโn and gettโn huge๐. All is again, extremely well up in this bitch๐ค. Merry Christmas to all of you and a Happy New Year.
Tip โO The Week
This week Iโm gonna say fuck it. Iโm on vacation and have no current patience for a jaded grower diatribe.
Time to settle in with the family for the holidays๐.
Background
From Exotic Seeds, Herz OG is a 4th gen. Cross of GG4 and black lemon autos, crossed again with a photo Herz OG mother. Supposedly piney, honey and woody tones with a calm relaxing effect. Just what the lady of the house ordered. Sheโll be straight DWC like the rest. 2 weeks on the drip line and depending on how they all do, this may be the girl that stays under the Spider Farmers for the duration. My first go with Exotic so no idea what weโre in for. Letโs hope sheโs a beast๐ค.
Iโve included a weekly tip forum for those new to the game that have an interest in trying out water based hydroponics. Itโs vetted, reliable info that will hopefully help you avoid weeks of lost time and failed attempts. Comments, questions and discussion are always welcome๐.
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Week 6. Flowering
6y ago
1/9
30.48 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
24 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.2
pH
Strong
Smell
420 PPM
TDS
40 %
Air Humidity
18 ยฐC
Solution Temp
18 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
17 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
3.79 liters
Watering Volume
45.72 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 2
DryPart Bloom
3.255 mll
Cal-Mag Plus
1 mll
TheBudWhisperer Week 6 update - quite a week actually. Vertical growth has stopped for the most part already and sheโs puttโn all effort into bud development - which is significant this early in flower๐๐๐. Sheโs frosting nicely and bud sites have stacked really quickly. Sheโs gonna be a winner for sure๐ค. Itโs in this week where Iโve found defoliation to be most important. The first round of trimming in transition directs energy to the stretching branches while this round is more for clearing up airflow and exposing more bud sites to the grow light. The fim totally blew this girl up and sheโll be a squat, fat monster by the end. Hereโs hopeโn for an issue free flower cycle๐ค๐ค๐ค.
Tip โO The Week
Yellow snow has never done anything good for anyone. So donโt eat it... life of a parent... best I got for now...
Background
From Exotic Seeds, Herz OG is a 4th gen. Cross of GG4 and black lemon autos, crossed again with a photo Herz OG mother. Supposedly piney, honey and woody tones with a calm relaxing effect. Just what the lady of the house ordered. Sheโll be straight DWC like the rest. 2 weeks on the drip line and depending on how they all do, this may be the girl that stays under the Spider Farmers for the duration. My first go with Exotic so no idea what weโre in for. Letโs hope sheโs a beast๐ค.
Iโve included a weekly tip forum for those new to the game that have an interest in trying out water based hydroponics. Itโs vetted, reliable info that will hopefully help you avoid weeks of lost time and failed attempts. Comments, questions and discussion are always welcome๐.
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Week 7. Flowering
6y ago
1/9
30.48 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
24 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.2
pH
Strong
Smell
420 PPM
TDS
40 %
Air Humidity
18 ยฐC
Solution Temp
18 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
17 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
3.79 liters
Watering Volume
45.72 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 2
DryPart Bloom
2.604 mll
Cal-Mag Plus
1 mll
TheBudWhisperer Week 7 update - 3rd week into flower and youโd think we were only a couple weeks out from chop. This girl is frosty AF already. What were small fluffy buds last week are all now fully stacked and building both bulk and density by the day๐. If this stays consistent through the rest of flower this thing is gonna be just a basketball of buds๐. There wasnโt much to do in the way of trimming or further defo this week. The branches have juuuust enough room to do what they gotta do. Only thing thatโs a little worry some is that a couple of leaves are lookn crispy. Itโs a little early for that yet and doubt itโs light burn. We do run on the high end of the nute ratio and sheโs been showing some tip burn steady throughout the grow. Might drop things back with plain water top offs this week just to even it out a bit. Then weโll lower the mix ratio by another half teaspoon on the next res. Change. Other than that - alls lookn really impressive for this early in flower. Definitely wouldnโt be surprised if this one goes off early. Happy growโn folks๐๐ค.
Tip โO The Week
Nows probably the right time to vent on the most important part of any grow which is PAYING ATTENTION TO THE PLANT. In this case weโre only at the end of week 3 of flower and sheโs starting to look like sheโs in the late stages of week 7๐ณ. The fans on the highest tops are starting to show some crispness despite all other signs which indicate a plant in perfect health. If youโre seeing things like this, you canโt ignore them in the hopes that itโs just a localized issue. Could it be light burn, sure could be. Could it be nute burn, absolutely. The key point is that you gotta keep on top of it and monitor even the slightest changes to ensure that what might be a little problem right now, doesnโt turn into a huge problem later on down the line. In our case, weโll be tracking this girl close for the next 2 weeks to see what she does. If the leaves get any crispier weโll have to consider changing out the res. And running with a halved nute solution for a week or so to clear any potential nute burn issues. If itโs the light....๐ฌ well, we can raise it a little but not much. In that case weโd just have to accept that she might end up a little torched. End of the day, some things you can help, some things you just canโt. That said, paying attention goes a long way. If you put down the bong (or at least wait to hit it until the garden work is done), that can sometimes help too๐. For our part we sometimes have great difficulty practicing what we preach๐คฃ.
Background
From Exotic Seeds, Herz OG is a 4th gen. Cross of GG4 and black lemon autos, crossed again with a photo Herz OG mother. Supposedly piney, honey and woody tones with a calm relaxing effect. Just what the lady of the house ordered. Sheโll be straight DWC like the rest. 2 weeks on the drip line and depending on how they all do, this may be the girl that stays under the Spider Farmers for the duration. My first go with Exotic so no idea what weโre in for. Letโs hope sheโs a beast๐ค.
Iโve included a weekly tip forum for those new to the game that have an interest in trying out water based hydroponics. Itโs vetted, reliable info that will hopefully help you avoid weeks of lost time and failed attempts. Comments, questions and discussion are always welcome๐.
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Week 8. Flowering
6y ago
1/11
30.48 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
24 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.2
pH
Strong
Smell
420 PPM
TDS
40 %
Air Humidity
18 ยฐC
Solution Temp
18 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
17 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
3.79 liters
Watering Volume
45.72 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 3
H2O2
1 mll
DryPart Bloom
2.604 mll
Cal-Mag Plus
1 mll
TheBudWhisperer Week 8 update - man this ones moving fast. Even if you call the last week of veg. A Flower week, that only gets us to about 5 weeks of flower... the book has this one at 8-9 weeks and Iโm starting to get really sceptical. Sheโs thick, dank, very healthy and the trichs are starting to Amber out on the tops. Sheโs a gooey, resinous monster and if I had a press Iโd consider running the whole plant through it๐. Trichs are saying about 2 weeks so weโll be watching closely. Not long now yโall๐.
Tip โO The Week
I was really hoping not to expand on nutes and watering as a soapbox topic because most of the time Iโm pretty high and winging it based on what the plant seems to want. But thatโs a result of experience which took time so hereโs a bit of what Iโve learned. First, I run my autos pretty hard and at the top end of the rec. brand strength in most cases. Once they start tip burning Iโll claw it back a touch on the ratios and kinda set that as the standard in either veg. Or flower cycles. The key to that success is what happens between the full res. Changes. Iโll top off with full strength until they show resistance and then move to straight water if needed to dilute the res. Until the next change. Iโve found this approach to work wonders on autos, even the finicky ones. As soon as you dial it in, itโs practically automatic.๐. Anyhoo - thatโs most of this weeks drama. Weโre closer than expected and should be a good finish๐๐๐.
Background
From Exotic Seeds, Herz OG is a 4th gen. Cross of GG4 and black lemon autos, crossed again with a photo Herz OG mother. Supposedly piney, honey and woody tones with a calm relaxing effect. Just what the lady of the house ordered. Sheโll be straight DWC like the rest. 2 weeks on the drip line and depending on how they all do, this may be the girl that stays under the Spider Farmers for the duration. My first go with Exotic so no idea what weโre in for. Letโs hope sheโs a beast๐ค.
Iโve included a weekly tip forum for those new to the game that have an interest in trying out water based hydroponics. Itโs vetted, reliable info that will hopefully help you avoid weeks of lost time and failed attempts. Comments, questions and discussion are always welcome๐.
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Week 9. Flowering
6y ago
1/12
30.48 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
24 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.2
pH
Strong
Smell
420 PPM
TDS
40 %
Air Humidity
18 ยฐC
Solution Temp
18 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
17 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
3.79 liters
Watering Volume
45.72 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 2
H2O2
1 mll
DryPart Bloom
2.604 mll
TheBudWhisperer Week 5 of flower by the numbers but really - it's gotta be more like week 6. This girl has plumped out HARD over the last week and already showing slight signs of doneness in the trichs. The sugar leaves are really starting to curl out and it's clear that backing off the nutes a little was a very good idea. She's dense AF!!! An absolute resin monster too - I've selected one particular bud that I like to squeeze every time i'm in the cabinet - just to see how sticky my fingers come back๐ ๐๐. This thing is so dank that it's really got me pondering on a half decent rosin press now๐. This flower is almost too good not to press down into an extract. Definitely starting to get that honey tone in the scent, combined with a more woody kinda kush scent (as opposed to the typical earthiness in most kush strains). Not a lot of history on GD regarding the auto version of this strain so as far as estimating finish time - up in the air. She really shouldn't be this mature at this stage but there's no denying it based on the trichs. I figure max 2 weeks and we'll be take'n 'er down. Fantastic plant - perfect for small space growers too if your options are limited๐.
Update - over the last 24 hours since the original post this girl has started to fade out. We might be closer than we thought to chop. Weโll take โer another week or so and see where itโs at. My new guess is that sheโs gonna finish even quicker than predicted๐ค๐.
Tip 'O The Week
This weeks diatribe is on PATIENCE and this plant is a perfect example of when you need to exercise some! If you take a look at the trich. photos you'll note that the sugar leaves on the tops are showing a ton of amber trichs. However, the trichs on the lower portions, less exposed to the grow light - they're still glassy and reflective - very immature. This is where you have to start looking at the plant as a whole (if ur chopping in one shot of course - some dudes will selectively harvest the tops of their plants as each cola reaches maturity. Nothing wrong with this approach - it's just a giant pain in the ass). I had a minor freak out mid-week thinking this would be only the second plant I've grown that came in under breeder suggested flowering times. Alas, end of week it's become clear that she's close, but not quite there just yet. I figure we hit exactly the 8 weeks of flower that's been suggested. Overall, she's still ripening out and we're in the prettiest part of the grow - patience, patience, patience. The end is nigh! Happy winter grow'n y'all๐.
Background
From Exotic Seeds, Herz OG is a 4th gen. Cross of GG4 and black lemon autos, crossed again with a photo Herz OG mother. Supposedly piney, honey and woody tones with a calm relaxing effect. Just what the lady of the house ordered. Sheโll be straight DWC like the rest. 2 weeks on the drip line and depending on how they all do, this may be the girl that stays under the Spider Farmers for the duration. My first go with Exotic so no idea what weโre in for. Letโs hope sheโs a beast๐ค.
Iโve included a weekly tip forum for those new to the game that have an interest in trying out water based hydroponics. Itโs vetted, reliable info that will hopefully help you avoid weeks of lost time and failed attempts. Comments, questions and discussion are always welcome๐.
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Week 10. Flowering
6y ago
1/14
30.48 cm
Height
20 hrs
Light Schedule
24 ยฐC
Day Air Temp
6.2
pH
Strong
Smell
420 PPM
TDS
40 %
Air Humidity
18 ยฐC
Solution Temp
18 ยฐC
Substrate Temp
17 ยฐC
Night Air Temp
18.93 liters
Pot Size
3.79 liters
Watering Volume
45.72 cm
Lamp Distance
Nutrients 2
H2O2
1 mll
DryPart Bloom
2.604 mll
TheBudWhisperer Week 6 of flower - again, I prefer to call it the end of week 7 because this chick is mere days from done. She's a straight fuck'n enigma to be honest. Earlier in the week I was sure she was gett'n the knife on the weekend. Now I'm almost positive I can push a little more outta her. She's fading out beautifully now but the trichs are sooooo close to our harvest wheelhouse. General uniformity in cloudiness throughout, little amber on the tops and some racy mirrored trichs on the underbelly๐. Swapped the res. and we'll top off on plain water moving forward to the full finish I think. I expect this to be the last update before the chop. We were hoping for a well-rounded basketball and ended up with a warped beachball monster๐. She's squat and the buds start from literally the base of the plant. Gonna go out on a limb and guess min. 4oz. at this point. Dense resinous beast๐ช. Not long now ya'll.
Tip 'O The Week
This weeks bullshit is about pick'n ur spot when it comes time to harvest. Some folks like their weed racy and heart palpatation inducing, others like it sedative and ..... ahhh fuck it. Iโm way too high to be soapboxing right now. Summary: Wait until sheโs done and then get the scissors out!๐.
Background
From Exotic Seeds, Herz OG is a 4th gen. Cross of GG4 and black lemon autos, crossed again with a photo Herz OG mother. Supposedly piney, honey and woody tones with a calm relaxing effect. Just what the lady of the house ordered. Sheโll be straight DWC like the rest. 2 weeks on the drip line and depending on how they all do, this may be the girl that stays under the Spider Farmers for the duration. My first go with Exotic so no idea what weโre in for. Letโs hope sheโs a beast๐ค.
Iโve included a weekly tip forum for those new to the game that have an interest in trying out water based hydroponics. Itโs vetted, reliable info that will hopefully help you avoid weeks of lost time and failed attempts. Comments, questions and discussion are always welcome๐.
So ends what was an extremely fast auto run. One of the fastest plants weโve seen from seed. She didnโt disappoint at all and Exotic is grade โAโ in my book๐๐๐ค๐.
Taste & Smell: ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
Effects: ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
This girl is an absolute terp. Monster. Stickier than GG and a very complex scent profile for a kush strain. Not really earthy, more piney and citrusy. Sheโs already demonstrating this only a few days post chop. Canโt wait to see what she cures out to. Itโll be a real treat. Iโd recommend anyone growing this to consider pressing it for rosin. Not only would the terps be amazing, the yield will be ridiculous๐.
As far as effects go - definitely a relaxing kush. Further testing required but she ticks all the boxes on what weโre looking for in an indica. Pretty strong body buzz with an added touch of cerebral dumbness๐๐.
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Spent 72 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
430.91 g
Bud wet weight per plant
194.19 g
Bud dry weight per plant
1
Plants
0.91 mยฒ
Grow Room size
Easy
Difficulty
Relaxed, Sleepy
Positive effects
Dry eyes
Negative effects
Citrus, Pine
Taste
Sleepy
Energy
Indica
Hybrid
Sativa
Height
Day air temperature
Air humidity
PPM
PH
Light schedule
Solution temperature
Night air temperature
Substrate temperature
Pot size
Lamp distance
1/28
TheBudWhisperer Medium:
The whole point and purpose of the weekly diatribes was to increase awareness about the simplicity and benefits of growing in DWC. This plant was grown in a 5 gallon tub which might as well have been a 2 gallon after accounting for net pot distances and air gaps. Still, she didnโt suffer at all and turned out a very impressive yield. I donโt hold to the maxim that soil growing brings out the best taste, smell etc. Most of this I boil down to good genetics. Some of the best tasting and highest quality plants weโve grown have come from hydroponic grow methods. DWCs benefits are obvious. The main drawbacks are really a lack of versatility next to other grow methods. Scrogging requires some significant imagination if in a tent or small space and unless youโre running a central res., swapping out tubs and buckets can be a pain in the ass.
Next cycle weโre running a Dutch bucket system instead. The hope is that we can combine all the best parts of hydro grow methods without the things that make each one a chore. No hand traditional hand watering, versatility and pot portability unlike dwc, the ability to scrog if needed, no messy soil or coco and low, low, low maintenance ie. minimal tip offs and changes. Well see how it shakes out in short order.๐ค
Method ๐๏ธ๐๏ธ๐๏ธ
Nothing much to this one. Essentially how we run most of our autos. The benefit of DWC allows us to FIM our autos super early in veg. When they blow back out and the fim works.... whoa ๐ณ! Itโs a sight to behold. It took really well on this one and the branching outwards was intense. Multiple 1/2oz. Colas was the result here and yet the plant didnโt get more than 12โ in height. Crazy to see. This strain is perfect for small space growers.
Yield/Harvest๐ด๐ด๐ด๐ด ๐ด
And now the real review. Try as I do, to focus on all the other benefits of each grow system, the one great equalizer for me, will always be yield. Itโs the single most obvious indicator of a successful grow and in this case - yeah, we crushed it๐ช.
This girl weighed in at 6.85oz. On a 12โ plant the size of a beachball... thatโs insane. I had to weigh everything twice because I simply couldnโt believe it was that much. The buds got almost over-dried through 8 days in our zero humidity basement too๐ฌ.
The bigger buds were weighed with stems intact because we wanted them whole. This isnโt typical for us but even if the stems weighed say, an oz. of that total, the plant still kicked out 6 ounces and thatโs just crazy ๐ณ๐. Much of this is attributed to density here - these buds are hard as rocks, covered in frost and the size of my fist๐. Again, a testament to Exotics quality genetics๐๐.
Full calcs. as follows:
Total sq./ft = 3sq.ft. = 0.28m2
192g = 6.85oz.
Light coverage by power: 66w/sq.ft.
Avg. estimated yield: 475g/m2
Actual Yield: 192g x ~3.6 = 691.2g/m2.
End of the day, we were able to push out almost 8oz. more per meter of space than the expected average on this plant. Again, just great genetics for a grow with absolutely no issues๐.
Great way to end the 2020 winter season. Gonna squeeze in a 4 plant auto run thatโll likely leak into the spring season so should have that up in short order. Hope everyoneโs stayโn safe and sane. Peace!๐
Background
From Exotic Seeds, Herz OG is a 4th gen. Cross of GG4 and black lemon autos, crossed again with a photo Herz OG mother. Supposedly piney, honey and woody tones with a calm relaxing effect. Just what the lady of the house ordered. Sheโll be straight DWC like the rest. 2 weeks on the drip line and depending on how they all do, this may be the girl that stays under the Spider Farmers for the duration. My first go with Exotic so no idea what weโre in for. Letโs hope sheโs a beast๐ค.
Iโve included a weekly tip forum for those new to the game that have an interest in trying out water based hydroponics. Itโs vetted, reliable info that will hopefully help you avoid weeks of lost time and failed attempts. Comments, questions and discussion are always welcome๐.
When u do a res change, do u just take the girls out of the water, how long can they b out of water. And what do u clean the res with? Ur grows r so informative, thanks for that.
@gogreengrow, I have a full replacement res. to swap with so the roots donโt spend a whole lotta time out of the water. A few minutes wouldnโt hurt them in the long run but itโs usually a matter of seconds when I change out. As far as cleaning is concerned, thatโs pretty basic. I usually scrub everything down with an H2O2 and water solution when itโs light. Or Diluted clr if itโs pretty gross. I always start a run with a fully sanitized res. Using Rubbing alcohol and water. Same goes for the hoses , air stones and pumps. ๐
That is an excellent diary and brilliant review of the strain. thank you. inhave just germinated 1 and now I have read this , I am so stoked I chose it. I do love Fast buds autos in general and seeing their Bluedreamatic pumping huge colas out in one I did , I don't doubt their genetics ever. I hope this diary and review rwcieves the right attention from Fb and grow diaries too. A great example of how us lazy sods need to up our game. lol
@TheBudWhisperer,I know the herz og is an Exotic seed. I have one growing too , I meant fb being a good example of similar yields and sizes to photoperiods but miss quoted the Fb for Exotic.lol It is an excellent example of a diary though and for someone going the same route and strain, ideal for their reason of using sites like this one. New growers and experienced benefit from a detailed grow like this. Thanks bud
@Ganjagrandaddy, weโll again - thanks very much for that. Try to give back on here as much as I can. Good community and no shortage of assistance and good advice (as long as you know who talk to of course ๐lol)
@TheBudWhisperer,Have to agree there. sadly there are so many grows i want to butt in with comments in for their poor growing and results. seeing simple things holding them back is a killer but hard to assume they want help too. See so many seeds never reach their potential this way here. wish we had a forum type room or chat function. the telegram one goes way too quick and threads melt into a confusion of replies to different comments lol. Even typing too much here feels a bit of an intrusions growers diaries.. We need a public relations drive to invite comments and encourage chat this way . The weekly updates seems to affect how often folks comment and visit. Thanks for the response
Hi there, in your first picture of week 9, I saw a tall plant with clawing leaves. I have ran into similar issue with my plants. Do you know what might be the reason? Nitrogen overdosed?
@agramperwatt, weโll this plant was a shorty - only about a foot tall. As far as the leaves are concerned - weโre in late flower here so not much time left and the plant has begun to fade as it reaches the end of its light cycle. Itโs on a 20/4 sched. Too so probably had enough. Although I wouldnโt say thereโs any light burn or nute lockout on this one. More just the plant showing signs of harvest readiness. Iโll take a look at yours when I got a chance๐
@agramperwatt, nm - I see you donโt have a diary up. Itโs hard to say but in late flower you will often see some signs of leaf damage as the plant reaches maturity. Without specific grow info Iโd be firing from the hip to diagnose your issue.
Great grow and diary! ๐๐โ๏ธ๐ป๐๐ฅ. Thanks for sharing. Checking out diaries of Herz OG autos and found your DWC run๐ค. I'm soaking 2 of these beans for my last DWC run till the fall. I'll be trying fiming for the first time after seeing your success. It was also helpful to get a baseline on TDS, with this being my 2nd go at DWC. Enjoy your harvest ๐โ๏ธ.
@DeaneR, thanks for the kinds words bud! Lol - donโt put any stock into the tds figure though! Think it was left at 420 because I didnโt bother to check it the whole grow๐. This was a bit of test run to see how long I could take a res. without a swap out. That said, if ur measuring TDS, I would say not to worry about it early on. It should be pretty low when in early stages as the plants wonโt need much nutes at all. In full veg. And flower you should be just fine between about 600-1200ppms. I know - huge range but, my own experience suggests that this isnโt a major concern as long as your nute mix is appropriate for the growth stage and the res. is clean and aerated. Let me know once u get it all on the go and Iโll follow along. If u have any questions or issues feel free to reach out - Iโve definitely learned a few lessons (and killed a few plants to learn them)๐๐๐
I think this may be my favourite auto run I have seen on grow diaries๐ Interesting info that the fim in dwc works so much better on a auto than in soil due to the vigorous growth it allows.
Yield in that time span from a plant that small is insanely good too.
Top work man๐
@Esoteric_growing, really appreciate that kind of feed back and thank you๐. While I can't own the flowering time (plant really had everything to do with that lol), fiming autos is a go-to lately. The results are just so much better when you have the right conditions for it. I do however miss seeing the natural result of a full grown auto. Then again... ya can't make an omelet without cracking a few eggs!!!๐
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