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AuntMeanie AuntMeanie
4 years ago
Praying my girls are not all in different stages of dying 😭More to follow... 1/9/21 These girls were finally dry enough to water I weighed each post before and after watering. I am going to try weighing the pots and water when the weight is about half as dry.as I normally do. So Maybe I should water @ 3lbs heavier... somewhere between 8-9lbs 1/10 I changed the light cycle so that my "night time" is in the middle of the day for heating reason, so this morning when I woke up, after being under the lights for 18 hours I actually had growth on two plants. Gorilla Glue and my photo plant Chocoloope that is growing with the autos. They were both under the VIPARSPECTRA 2020 Pro Series P1000 LED Grow Light. The other two plants were under BLOOMSPECT Double Chips Series 1500W LED Grow Light Full Spectrum. I wish I hadn't made so many mistakes with this grow because I know there is no way to know if it is the light that made them grow better than the other two or they were just a little healthier. I don't think so because Gorilla Glue is the worst plant and she actually grew but who knows. Anyways I switched the plants around so they are under the opposite light when their day time starts and we will just have to see. PE Length 8' Height 7' Width 8.5" Dry weight 6lb 4oz Wet weight 13lb 11oz GG Length 8" Height 7" Width 8.5" Dry weight 5lb 14 oz- Wet weight 11lb NB Length 11" Height 10 " Width 10.5" Dry weight 6lb 9 oz Wet weight 12lb Choco Length " Height Width " Dry weight Wet weight 1/11/21 DAY 46S HELP if ANYONE SEES THIS .... last night I decided not to switch the plants around after all, but I did rearrange the tent because I had a plug running through door and I am still struggling to regulate the humidity and temp. I thought I still had good air circulation but apparently I did not and the plants are not happy. Gorilla Glue is not going to make it. She turned real dark green after watering her on Saturday, she had a small amount of growth Sunday but now all the leaves are laying down. I don't know if I should use Sledge hammer but after flushing a week ago letting her dry for a week and then watering Saturday I don't know if I flushed her with sledge hammer if that would finish her off or perk her back up. I weighed her and she was 4 pounds lighter than when I watered her on Saturday and still 2+ pounds lighter than when she is the driest. Some background on how I tried to kill my plants... 😭 I started this grow by watching a zillion videos with my key take away being 1-don't over water 2- don't transplant autos 3- don't feed full strength. I took it seriously, so my tiny little sprouts were put into 3 gallon pots of Fox Farm happy frog potting soil. (didn't realize this already had enough nutrients to last several weeks so I started nutrients in the 2nd week of Veg) I use Fox farm nutrients and follow their soil feeding schedule. I bought the Dirty Dozen starter kits and it did not have 2 products in that the feeding schedule but since they were not in the kit I assumed they must not be too important. They were.... Wholly Mackerel & Marine Cuisine fertilizer. I used a turkey baster to slowly drip a couple ounces of water around each plant I water just like in this picture. https://prnt.sc/wjq0gi for over a month. I didn't realize by watering like this for a month that I was making the nutrients build up just below the the root line each watering. I waited to water till the plants were very dry. Now looking back Way way to dry before watering. I am sure that is why they were not growing. I was only giving them enough to stay alive not thrive. So a little more back info Day 14 I watered the plants with plan water Day 23 after not having to water the plants for 9 days I watered them, 1/4 gallon each with week 2 schedule, with the addition of calmag+(2-0-0) @ 50% strength Day 27 they were light and needed to be watered and they had grown a little. so I gave them nutrients same as above Day 30 The plants were not quit as dry as usual but I was beginning to think I was underwatering them so I gave them 1/2 gallon of THIS IS WERE IT ALL GOES WRONG...(Actually after reviewing my grow journal just now my problems started Day 1 and was showing signs I just didn't know it and I still am not sure how to fix any of it Almost makes me think I should scrap it all and start over. These poor plants will be lucky to produce anything) Someone could seriously use my grow journal as a "everything not to do" guide. Day 35 since the plants were finally big enough to soak the pots fully. I also decided since they had used 1/2 gallon water in 3 days and they grew a ton I upped the nutrients to full strength and the calmag plus as well. This was the first time I had any runoff sadly I let the plants sit in the runoff and reabsorbed all the runoff. Day 38 Flushed each plant with with 5 gallons of tap water that had a PH of 6.4 & water temp was 62 degrees. My run off started at 4300ppm with a ph of 6.2. The PH was consistent in every plants runoff and all of them had off the chart PPMs. I brought NB down to 250ppm. Gorilla Glue and Pineapple express I brought the runoff down to 450. For some reason I decided that since my plants were probably in shock from no water and nutrients to more water and a whole lot of nutrients and I figured flushing them would reset the soil and I reasoned they would need food after not getting any from being in shock so I gave them each a half strength nutrients. I waited a full week then posted this question. Day 45 I have each plant plain water and checked the run off. The Gorilla Glue had a run off of 584ppm with a ph of 6.47 , The northern lights X had 750ppm and 6.38ph pineapple express had 1170ppm runoff so I ran a less less than an extra half gallon of water and that brought the ppm down to 706. PH was 6.3. I have a photo period that I didn't add to this dairy but has been with these plants and it is starting to show the same signs as the others they are just all in different phases of whatever I did to almost kill them. I started the next week on Friday so I will be adding pictures and a couple videos I took from today in my grow dairy tonight. I don't know what to do next.
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Grow Questions
AuntMeanie
AuntMeaniestarted grow question 4 years ago
I had nutrient lockout due to using full strength nutes instead of 50%, after thoroughly drying pots for a week. I Flushed each plant with 5 gallons of water then I added back nutes at 50% minus calmag & boomerang Still no growth in a week and stems are wreaking, new growth twist
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Leaves. Curl down
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 4 years ago
Firstly, nutrient "lock out" is caused by either extreme acidity or extreme alkalinity and is a soil condition, not a nutrient problem. To many growers surprise, no doubt, nutrients only become "locked up" with acid conditions of about 4.0 and lower, or alkaline conditions of about 10.0 and up! The often quoted figure of 6.5 is about just right, but nutrient availability is almost 100% anywhere between 5.5 and 7.5 so being anal about pH is not really as critical as some people would make you believe; just google "nutrient availability and pH". Your plants to me look like they are suffering more from nutrient over load rather than anything else. I would suggest giving them just plain water until (new) growth resumes normally, then progress to feeding the quarter strength nutrients every second or third watering. The substrate needs to be moist all the way through after watering, not soggy wet or with dry patches either. This is a careful balance to maintain, but will get easier with experience. Then let the substrate dry out a while, until the top inch and a half or so is dry, before watering again. This could be anywhere between 1 and 7 days depending on temps, water requirements of your individual plants, container size, plant size, air circulation, substrate porosity, relative humidity, day length etc. You should try to make sure each time you water that there is water coming out of the bottom of the pots, otherwise there is no way of telling if water has penetrated the entire depth of the pot, this also helps prevent nutrient "salts" building up in your substrate. If your substrate is particularly dry, either from under watering or long gaps between watering, your substrate may have become "hydro phobic", meaning rather than wetting the substrate, water will just run straight through the pot with very little being absorbed. In this situation, it can help to give (for example) 2-3 litres per pot, but spread out over a couple of hours, giving 500ml every half hour x four/six times. This way some water will be absorbed before the next dose of water is given. This also allows the substrate to "swell" a little each time, therefore (eventually) preventing the water from just running straight through the pot without being absorbed. Deep watering to run off is what you should aim for rather than giving small amounts of water often. The roots on your plant will be all the way to the bottom of the pots, so unless there is run off, the roots at the bottom of the pot will remain dry, preventing root growth and hindering nutrient availability. Remember too, nutrients are water soluble, so unless the substrate is evenly moist, nutrients will be unavailable for your plants. Have a look at my diary "Holy Mackerel" / Cannabis Conundrums to see the exposed root system of a 3 week old seedling and this may give you an idea as to why deep watering is essential. So, after all this waffle - give your plants plain water until they pick up growing again, then start with quarter strength nutrients every second or third watering, until they have been happily growing for 2-3 weeks, before upgrading to half strength nutrients every second or third watering. Giving a dose of plain water between feedings will allow the plant to "scavenge" any remaining nutrients in the substrate, as well as helping to prevent nutrient salt build up in the substrate too. Hope this helps and happy growing!! ,.... Organoman. P.S. - I also would recommend giving your plants a light watering with plain water half an hour or so before feeding them with nutrients. This way your plant is fully hydrated before having to "deal with" the nutrients. This also helps with nutrient assimilation, as moist roots are better able to deal with any human made nutrients without the roots burning or suffering any other problems, if they are already pre-moistened.
AuntMeanie
AuntMeaniestarted grow question 4 years ago
Does it go against community standards to inbox someone who replied to a grow question? 280 characters isn't enough to describe all problems. There are so many experienced growers here that if we could actually talk back and forth it would be so helpful but I can't figure out how
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Other. General questions
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Organoman
Organomananswered grow question 4 years ago
Hi, I have thought the same thing many times. There is the option of contacting a member via the "chat" function on each users page. It is in the top right hand corner and once you click on that, a little, itty bitty box will pop up at the lower right side of the page. After typing in your "chat", click on the paper plane to send. Hope this helps,.. Organoman.
AuntMeanie
AuntMeaniestarted grow question 4 years ago
Will plants that have turned dark green with clawed leaves from nitrogen toxicity turn back to a normal green color and the leaves straighten out or will it stay like this? I flushed her Jan 2 and watered her again on 1/9. She hasn't started growing yet and still dark clawed
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Leaves. Other
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Roberts
Robertsanswered grow question 4 years ago
Damaged leaves won't recover. Go to half strength on nutrition and check run off ph. Deep green leaves should lighten up. The darkness of green in leaves tells what your nitrogen level in plant is. Good luck and happy growing
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DreamOn
DreamOncommentedweek 04 years ago
Good luck with the grow mate! 🌱😎
AuntMeanie
AuntMeaniecommented4 years ago
@DreamOn, Thanks
plant
plantcommentedweek 44 years ago
Nice bro, I’m sure they’ll turn out fire πŸ”₯ hope you enjoy growing autos. They grow up so quick ! 🐞
AuntMeanie
AuntMeaniecommented4 years ago
@plant, Oh and no worries on calling me Bro. I have 2 teenage sons. I get called Bro as much as I do mom LOL I read a few Gorilla Glue Auto dairies last night and several people had the same experience as you. One had pictures of the two plants next to each other and I would have never believed they were they same plant. I am starting to think my Gorilla Glue might be a boy 😭
plant
plantcommented4 years ago
@AuntMeanie,sorry for calling you bro aunty meanie πŸ™†β€β™‚οΈ Yeah they do say autos only have a certain life span but I believe that it can vary from Seed to seed. I’m growing some gorilla glue autos myself and Iv already harvested one.The other looks like it has about 3 weeks left still and there from the same seed pack. πŸ€™πŸžπŸ˜‚πŸŒ±
AuntMeanie
AuntMeaniecommented4 years ago
@plant, @plant, I hope you are right. I was looking at some other Gorilla Glue Auto dairies using the same seeds and my Gorilla glue seem like it is a week or 2 behind, which might suck since you can't make up time in auto's. Time will tell I guess πŸ˜€
DreamIT
DreamITcommentedweek 04 years ago
Enjoy Growth πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘½πŸ€ŸπŸ€
AuntMeanie
AuntMeaniecommented4 years ago
@DreamIT, Thanks
CachimboDaPaz
CachimboDaPazcommentedweek 44 years ago
they're looking pretty good....great job...keep going bro
AuntMeanie
AuntMeaniecommentedweek 04 years ago
Sorry for the late replies, it took me a bit to figure out how this website works.
Smokwiri
Smokwiricommentedweek 54 years ago
Nice work mate, plant looks nice and healthy πŸ’€πŸ’ͺπŸ‘Œ keep an eye on those balls, keep cutting m away
Smokwiri
Smokwiricommented4 years ago
@AuntMeanie, yeah AuntMeanie, the balls are male symptoms, which could lead to small flowers, which carry and spread male pollen acroos the plants. If it is a good strain that you are cultivating you could let it pollinate a couple of buds, which will produce seeds after throughout the buds on your plant, the taste will be different than normal (often a bit less potent/strong, but the taste is often developed better during seedproduction) you could end up with a bunch of seeds and some tasty weed that you never tasted before, if you don't want it, you can cut the balls of and continue towards your normal harvest. πŸ’ͺ
AuntMeanie
AuntMeaniecommented4 years ago
@Smokwiri, Are you saying I should I be cutting those off? I didn't know that. Do you think the little ball looking thing is a pollen sack? I I took a few more pictures of the area last night that I will upload but will try to get a better photo this afternoon. It's a feminized seed but I know some males or hermies can sneak in. This is probably wishful thinking but I read a few gorilla glue auto dairies last night and a few people mentioned having 2 different version of this, a faster growing and slower growing version. From comparing their pictures to my plant I feel like I have the slower growing version, so my wishful thinking is that maybe it is just a bit behind and because the plant is so incredibly dense that little ball think was just a female calyx searching for light.
Smokwiri
Smokwiricommentedweek 74 years ago
nice progress, keep up the good work mate πŸ‘ŒπŸ’ͺ
MrHightimes
MrHightimescommentedweek 54 years ago
grow grow grow your bud :P GL!!!!!
DoDrugs420
DoDrugs420commentedweek 103 years ago
Slayin it, the best of the best.
HAPPY91
HAPPY91commentedweek 94 years ago
I hope for strong happy and healthy plants. Good luck stay safe happy growing cheers!!!
Smokwiri
Smokwiricommentedweek 94 years ago
hey, plant is doing good, hope it continues without problems, good luck mate πŸ’ͺ