hey,
i have lowered some nutrient because had some tip burns. so lowered a few things .
all is going well and today i took out all the plants to give them a good trim to have a good light penetration to the lower bud sites .
the plant number 1 is a lot taller then number 2 but i put nr 2 a little higher so they both are aprox. the same distance from the lamp
i broke the biggest stem when i put them back in the tent because it's getting to high .
looking forward to the next couple of weeks
i have 2 C Banana in the same conditions and 1 of them is growing like crazy and stretching while the other is growing normal.
is it just the genetics? the second plant also looked ligther green from the beginning and did not flower the same time as the other.
Hi @Bluesbreeder! If you're sure that the light coverage is the same for the 2 plants, and if the conditions are exactly the same (same soil, same trainings, same feedings..) then yes it's phenotype-related. You have 2 different phenos from the same strain. Good luck with the tall one!
hey, what 135w do you use?
i wanna buy one too, what tent do you recommand, i see you put 135w for 2 plants here and another 135w for other 2 plants on other diary
Nice green photos this week. You seem to have your hands full in your tent! That is a lot of bud! I wouldn't worry about the stretchy pheno. She could have a bit more sativa to her. Once she is done with all the stretching then she will start to fill out. I would guess that she will not be ready to harvest at the same time.
Otherwise everything is looking great! Beautiful color to your girls. The buds are forming nicely. You might want to give your girls a haircut or five. That way some of the lower buds can develop.
@Quexos,well for me it's no problem because i like more the high feeling then the stoned. so i will have 1 C.banana good matured and the other more virgin weed . all good for me :-)
@Bluesbreeder, I understand. I guess you could move the carbon filter, but if your set up is anything like mine, it would take hours to undo all of the parts. It just isn't worth it. Maybe for a future grow you could build a drying box that has some sort of filtration.
The biggest difference will be the type of high. The one that isn't quite finished might have smaller, less dense buds, but I'd guess not. Trichomes would definitely not be as mature so that will effect the type of high, but probably not potency unless the plant is really far away from finishing. It really depends on how far away the less mature plant is from harvesting.
Gratz Bud! Those are some fine looking mason jars. You had a great yield for only 2 plants. I like how this strain turned out. The buds are pretty good size, and the pictures show some real dense structure. Great job!👏
I wonder if that breeder has any other strains that might be worth trying out.
@Quexos,also known as backbuilding or bud pinching. i used this on my Ultimate grow and on Cinderella Jack . for this grow i did not use it but i'm going to use it again. had good results with them but it's hard to prove it really works.
Those girls look ready for harvest! I wonder why the final stage is taking so long? Your trichomes may never go all milky/amber. I was reading that some strains won't do that. I believe the leaves changing colors is your buds taking nutrients from the plant itself. Its nothing to worry about, and its an indication your plant is about ready.
Have you looked up this strain on the breeder's website? Do a Google search for this strain and see if you can find other grows, or more information. Hopefully that will give you some answers. Overall, she sure looks about ready.
@Quexos,well i’m guessing this will be more. The buds are very dense! When i got her out of the tent 1 of the plants collapsed under the weight from the buds. Last evening i got leaves from the inside of the bud and under the microspope they whete all milkey so i decided to harvest her. I think next weekend i will post the harvest week with the dry weight. Looking forward to tasting it :-)
@Bluesbreeder, I did a little reading about your strain after I posted my reply to you. From what I read, your plants should've been finished. A lot of the pictures looked similar to yours.
Your strain sure did have a tangled lineage.
On my last two grows I got about 17% of my wet weight.
@Quexos,i took a closer look today little deeper in the bud and they were all milkey so i harvested her. i removed my week 18 from my diary so i can post the harvest week. in a few days i will post the results with wet and dry weight.
wet weight was 828 so i'm guessing around 200 dry!
So you are figuring a 12 week flowering cycle in all? They will really fatten up in the next 3 weeks. I noticed a huge bulking up during my flushing period. Supposedly they will gain some weight when you leave them in the dark at the end of your grow.
On another note: OMG those bud stalks look amazing!😵😵😵
@Bluesbreeder, On my last grow I did a last flush then did a 3-day dark cycle. Then I did a wet trim, and initial weighing. Next I hung the bud stalks to dry on a hanging rack in my grow tent with 2 computer exhaust fans and a humidifier. They were dryish after 4 days. Then I did a dry trim and put them in jars.
I just did the final flush to my current grow. It is in timeout Carrie style.
@Quexos,what i read about it is that the plant would make more trichomes in the dark period because it thinks it will die . i'm not really sure if it works and read about 48/72 hours in complete darkness. what do you do? and do you see a difference?
@Bluesbreeder, I did a dark period last grow, and I'm doing a dark period as we speak on my second grow.
I also have read of a lot of other growers using the dark period method. I'm not sure exactly why you give the plants a dark period before cutting them down. I know mother nature never schedules her solar eclipses for harvest season. Lemmings will be lemmings!😉
You are going to have way too much herb when you harvest. I suggest you send me some!
Those plants are looking fantastic! It looks like you added some new nutes to your list. If you are getting burned tips then you will need to flush and cure awhile longer than usual. It will take a bit of time to flush out those nutes from the soil and plant. Curing takes a little longer as well.
@Bluesbreeder, I used Flawless Finish on my last grow. I think I only used it once though before I harvested.
I'm still not sure about adding nutes during the grow, especially during flowering. Finding the right frequency is difficult. Last grow I gave nutes probably 3-4x a week . This time I'm only feeding once a week.
@Quexos,no i flush them at the end with flawless finish.
but i ment that once i had some problem with a plant and about 3 weeks into flowering i flushed the plant because it looked like a deficiency and by flushing it the plant got a lot worse then before. i always flush the last week before i harvest.
@Bluesbreeder, True Dat!
I'm not sure what you mean by worse. When you stop feeding nutes at the end of your grow, your plants will start taking nutes from the plant itself. They start to "fade", or look poorly, as the nutes are used up from the plant. It doesn't affect bud formation, or potency in a negative way.
You are getting towards the end! Do you have a separate drying area, or do you have to use your tent? I built a cheap one using a wardrobe box (48x24x24) from U-Haul, some string, and a cheap fan, used as exhaust. Its been keeping my drying bud at around 74 temp. and around 55% humidity.
@Quexos,hahaha well with 1 house between us lives a cop .so i don't want to take a risk that he wakes up in the morning goes to his window, takes a deep breath and smells the scent of drying buds 😬
@Bluesbreeder, Yeah, I didn't have an answer for the smell either. My wife was less than pleased with me when she woke up in the morning and the bedrooms and hallway smelled like a dispensary.
She is finishing up nicely. They look very healthy.
My prediction is another 3 weeks. I think you'll see a lot of bulking at the very end. My current grow is about 1-2 weeks away and its starting to really fatten up.
@Quexos,well i think i need to put some stick in the pots for support ! it looks like some buds are getting to heavy for some branches . i always take the smallest plant out to give them water and have some room but its getting harder and harder not to move to much and make them brake. but i like big buds and i can not lie :-)
Man, that is a strange growth you got going there. It looks like 4 small tops in the middle and some older ones on the outside? That would be nice to be able to consistently do that.
Nice looking buds you have there! They are long and slender. Sorry about the breaking of the branch. At least out can try out the herb to see how close to harvest it is.
@Quexos,well i broke it myself :-) it was getting to high so i supercropped it. maybe i was not clear in my message. i'm very curious how the buds will develope . the stretched stems are also filling up nice so let see in a few weeks what the harvest will be.
Hi @Bluesbreeder! If you're sure that the light coverage is the same for the 2 plants, and if the conditions are exactly the same (same soil, same trainings, same feedings..) then yes it's phenotype-related. You have 2 different phenos from the same strain. Good luck with the tall one! 👊
@Stick,thanks but i don’t like it that much . It seems streched and then the buds won’t be compact ! But we will see the end result in a few weeks . If the smoke is good and the potency that’s the most important.
Nice development over the last few weeks. Those are some very beautiful plants. I'm not familiar with the strain. I've never seen it in the local dispensaries.
I really like Advanced Nutrients. They are very forgiving, and seem to work really well.
hey, what 135w do you use?
i wanna buy one too, what tent do you recommand, i see you put 135w for 2 plants here and another 135w for other 2 plants on other diary
@Ggluee,hey i'm using Quantum boards 135W and yes i use 135W on 2 plants.
i bought the quantum boards from this store https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/kits
my tent is 80x80/180 cm and it's great to have 4 plants in it.
on my last diary i got more then 400 gr with this setup and 4 auto cinderella jack's
Well mine are still clear i find some that are milky but it still looks like glass . In 1 hour the lights turn back on and i will check them again. I would show a picture but i do it with i microscope.
I just want to see some more milk in my garden . I want this strainto be perfect for it’s full potential
hey guys i removed my last week that i posted yesterday because today i cut her down and harvested.
the buds are drying so in a few days i will put the harvest week in my diary when the buds are dry. so i can immediately can give you the dry weight also.
well maybe i will try it! am going to read some more on this ! i'm surely am going to be using my bud pinching method again next grow! and maybe i will see if it makes a difference! i will be growing the same as i did now! 2 gorilla's and 2 C.Banana. so i can see if it makes a difference.