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Full Moon Party project
While waiting for 4/20 sales to buy one get one free promotion. Might as well pop some seeds that were pollinated in my garden.
The parent strains were:
Phillosopher Seeds’ Heaven’s Fruit. It was an NYCD cross with Somango. Quick high from THCV and mellow down from Somango Indica leaning effect. Sociable then chill out without being too strong.
Male contribution was White Sirius Auto from Flash Seeds. This strong Sativa was slow to flower. Effect was also sociable. Lineage was Chemdog and white strains. So this is along the line of diesel starins. However, White Sirius flowering time was slow. I did like the effect. Moreover, auto’s don’t do well in my outdoor set up with short light hours.
What if I can get photoperiod to veg as long as I would like but has vigor of an auto? And I like sociable effect with mellowing tail end.
Marketing Fantasy – Full Moon Party
Full moon party is a cultural event on Phagan island off the coast of Thailand. This weed is fun without being an a** hole. It is the weed that get both shy and loud people to enjoy the sacred tradition.
Germination
I had two seeds laying about my cabinet for more than a year. Both popped but only one came up. Hope it’s a girl. If it is a boy, then, I’ll have fresh pollen to breed with another diesel derived strain.
First Week
No issues. Seedling was in old soil with no new fertilizer. Next week, I am putting in earth worm casting and mycorrhiza.
Waiting for seed banks to put out this year catalogue and promote with sales to buy one get one free promotion around mid-April. I keep growing with my homemade seed.
Second week of life, Full Moon Party was moved to a 2-liters container. The plant is in my lighted grow case with 24 hours light. I broke a leaf during transplant. It was removed.
Roots developed okay but I really transplanted her a few days too soon.
Mixed in additional Mycorrhiza during transplant. And gave compost tea to boost growth. Also gave some earthworm tea as first dose of fertilizer. That was a bit too much too soon and I burn leaf tips. Oops.
By the end of two weeks, Full Moon Party is developing normally.
Hope it’s a she.
Full Moon Party developed fast. After three weeks, the plant seemed to have filled the 2-liters container. I think F1 cross with auto helps with vigor. It may weaken the potency, but it is much more fun to grow.
After the picture, I pinched off the tip of top shoot. And I am transferring her to 7-liters pot outdoor. Just going through my routine.
Out side the temperature is climbing, weather is approaching searing hot summer. Let’s see how this sample would cope with the climate.
Transplanted to 7-liters pot.
Added earth worm casting and Mycorrhiza.
Side branches are taking their time to sprout. And after a week, Full Moon Party still looks like a plant with chopped off head without side sprout. Otherwise, leaves and main stem are healthy in tropical sun at extreme UV index.
Watered with molasses and amino seaweed additive once. No need to feed as earth worm casting was still fresh.
Adding a pic of bergamot plant. I am growing this to cultivate mycorrhiza. And soil filled with bergamot root that was infected with mycorrhiza can be reuse to grow cannabis seedlings,
One week after transplanted, I started to bend the two top cola’s.
Watered with molasses and amino seaweed for one more week.
No need to feed as earth worm casting was still fresh.
However, leaves color is a bit light. She wants nitrogen. And I ran out of earth worm tea. Could also be light shock. She was moved from grow case to full tropical sun. So, I gave her a dose of humic acid at 1 gram per liter of water to help her adapt to the heat and strong sun. Also gave her 50 ml of milk dilute to 1 liter of water as some organic nitrogen.
And there are root poking at the bottom of the pot already. And I put a plate underneath the pot to stop root going to the soil. Think she (hopes it’s a she) can use larger pot at later stage.
I used recycled soil full of old roots. The previous growth had mycorrhiza added when plants was young. And I think the old soil is still full of mycorrhiza. May be that is why Full Moon Party root is developing so well.
Following my routine, Full Moon Party was vegging one more week in 7 liters container.
Two main branches are developing well. And there are two smaller bottom branches that looks decent. These are candidate for cutting/cloning.
Next weekend, I am going off to an island trip. So, delaying my cloning schedule for a week. Ambient temperature is like a mild fever. Air is also dry. And the person who I left my house with is notoriously unreliable when it comes to gardening. One big plant just died.
So, I am putting Full Moon Party in 25-liters basket a little early. It should improve survival rate when I am away for a few days.
Transplanted to 25-liters basket. Trained the plant. And accidentally split the crotch. Bind them back as usual.
Two main branches are developing well. I trimmed the lesser lower braches off. And I kept the two main stems with the split.
Tied the split labeling wire. Five days later, the split healed. Main stem grew and wire bit into the growing stalk.
I then change the wire into a softer plastic rope.
By the end of week 8. The split mostly healed and I removed the rope.
Then I tried to train the two stalks. And I broke one stalk. Full Moon Party is brittle with hollow stems. The stems behaves like ruderalis.
Oh well, I feed Full Moon party with Root Start additive. This Roost Start has NAA that thicken cell wall. I must wait one more week before attempt to clone. On the other hand,
I never had luck when I tried to clone hollow weak branches.
Cheers.
Full moon party seemed to have recovered enough from split trunk and broken branches.
I tried strengthening the plant with auxin and silica. Silica was added by mixing in charred rice husk in the soil. Charred husk raises pH so humic pellet was added to balance off the pH. Auxin is from root starting hormone.
To those who are curious, I am keeping photo period plant in veg with 12 hours day light hour. I use night light to kill flowering hormone. It does not take much and it won’t promote grow that much.
Recently, a friend gave me some solar powered LED lights. Let’s use it to properly keep plant in veg. The most difficult part was to drill 10 mm holes in hard concrete wall.
And I changed drill size three times. Now I have 80 Watts going for extra 8 hours in the night. This should keep my plant in veg at much bigger size than before.
So, I am trying LED light for my outdoor grow.
After this week, it is a good time to trim. Since I’ll be taking small branches off, I’ll try to root them. Hopefully I can get cuttings root to check sex of this Full Moon Party project.
Good week. Full Moon Party responded splendidly to 200 W night light. Leaves are big in Indica style. Looks like she is going to be a fairly big plant.
Split wound healed. I should make sure to properly stake the main branches when I go forward with the grow.
And broken branches wound also healed.
Think I need to open the tube to make sure that there is no space for water to collect in the hole.
I gave the same amount of salt fertilizer. Half a gram per liter each of potassium nitrate and nitrogen phosphate. One addition of fish tea. And another feed with diluted milk for organic nitrogen.
Took cuttings. And next week I should know if they would survive to become little copies of this Full Moon Party plant. Then I can check the sex of either the mother or the clone.
Just adopted two mongrel puppies. They were so beautiful that the caretaker prayed for them to be adopted.
Within a couple of days, they show their appreciation by starting to help in the garden. They randomly fertilizing plants, digging holes, trimming off leaves, sleeping on ornamental plant beds. I shall make sure that my plants pots are raised out of sight of the fur balls.
This week it rained heavily. Coming week will also be raining. Low light level also let flowering hormone stay. It is hard to see with picture from my phone but Full Moon Party shows wisps of pistil on mid and lower branches.
It’s a girl. Life is good.
I fed her with guano tea, fish tea, and market bought compost tea. Together with overcast sky and rain, Full Moon Party height stretched to 120 cm. Height gained was more than an inch a day. Main stalk is thick and fat. Pics look good but it is too much stretching. I think stems are hollow and weak.
I am hardening her with IAA for a week before putting her into flowering spot. Then I should stick a couple of branches in the soil to keep a clone. Have a good feeling that this plant would turn out well.
On the cover is rhinoceros beetle grub from the soil from another plant. The grubs in soft warm bed feeding on roots and organic compost. I lost that plant and got zero harvest.
Rhinoceros beetle eggs can be found in manure and leaf compost. I used these as my main fertilizers. It was my bad. I neglected adding in metharhizium and beavaria microbes to my soil mix. And these guys had grown to good size. They make good fishing bait. Very expensive bait considering the damage they caused.
Root filled 25-liters basket. And growth slowed down. Other wise Full moon party is vegging well in mid-summer. Height is 130 cm. And if I let her veg in bigger pot, she probably grow some more.
Pre-flower reverted to veg. I have trimmed off lower branchlets to shape this plant.
I put trimmed off branches to root.
Raing season is the worse time of the year for flowering ganja. Nonetheless I should put the mother plant to flower. I want to get and idea of taste and effect before I grow more clones.
Puppies quickly learned to be enjoy ganja leaves. They take a few nibs on lower leaves every day. There are plenty of other edible plants in by garden but the pups don’t pay too much attention. Must be some instinctive thing for dogs to chew with ganja.
On the side, I started to experiment with popular PGR during veg. These are naturally occurring PGR’s. They control how plants develop root and leaves. And I plan to run these Cannboom CBD+ clones with auxin, BAP-6, egg compost, and plain water for three weeks.
Full Moon party was root bound in 25-liters basket. She gained a couple of inch last week. And I planted her in 60 liters pot at the end of this week. Putting pots containing aloe vera underneath her shade. This is not a special symbiotic growing technique. It just is to prevent my puppies from digging into cannabis pot. I have puppies that are digging holes. They bury bones and toys all over the yard.
Full Moon Party is in direct path of solar light at night. I am letting her be for a week. Hope to get her root to spread about a little before she goes into flowering mode. I don’t think I have to worry much about Full Moon Party flowering too soon. Sun is strong and the day is nearly 13 hours long. 13 hours day is as long as it would get in Thailand.
Two clones took root well. I put these in my nursery box with weak 5,000 lux LED. One cutting died. And an extra cutting seemed to be surviving. So, three out of four clones took. About normal survival rate for cuttings.
I now have option to continue Full Moon Party should the mother plant turn out to have good effect and strong against mold.
It is really a girl. I am so happy.
One week out of the light, Full Moon Party started to show pre-flower. Pistils are coming out. I have seen wisp of it at earlier stage but final confirmation as she went into the big pot is a big relief.
Full Moon Party was bred with White Sirius auto-flowering male pollen. And flowering started fast even as we are one month away from Summer Solstice.
The day is nearly 13 hours long.
And land race Thais do not flower until September.
Transplanted into 60 liters pot. Have not fed much her since I mixed in about 16 liters of earth worm casting during pot size change. Also fed dilute yoghurt to start microbial actions. Leaves are dark green.
And she stretched a little to 146 cm tall. Next week, I’ll be watching the flowering stretch.
I planted Full Moon party close to the wall as possible. This is to avoid my old fence light at night. And the wall is facing south. So there is plenty of sun this time of the year.
The clones are doing okay. There are three cuttings that survived. I put two in my computer grow case for a soft start. Temperature and humidity are high. In a couple of weeks, there will be small Full Moon Party plants as backups.
Tall and starting flowering stretch. Full Moon Party is 160 cm tall with dark green leaves and egg shape bush. Good combination between taller Sativa and darker Indica.
Bugs do not seem to be bothering her. They start to infest my other plants. And I am handling this with microbe spray. Microbes seemed to be working okay. Not the strongest stuff and I also use dish washing soap to help. Spiders and praying mantis are surviving the treatments. And that makes me happy.
Weather is hot and rainy. 39 C with more than 80% humidity. Full Moon Party is tolerating the inundation well.
Two weeks out of the light, Full Moon Party is still in transitioning stage. Left side of the plant developed flower faster. Right side is a bit slower as they get some light in the night. And the top is still in pre-flowering.
Well, this is near summer solstice in the northern hemisphere. 13 hours light but the sun color tells plants that they are in vegging season. I am expecting 10 weeks flowering time.
Let’s see what the effect is like. And I’ll grow Full Moon Party clones for real in fall.
No feeding last week. And I’ll start to feed half strength of flowering fertilizer next week. This would be molasses and bat guano.
I feel lucky to have weed in my life during this pandemic time. Every now and then, I do need to lift my mood just to get going.
Stay active and stay green. Cheers.
Weather is hot but there was no rain this week. Highest temperature during the day waw around 39 C with 45% humidity. VPD was about 3.6 mid-day and 1.5 in the night. Full Moon Party is doing very well in the heat. Comparatively, fast flowering Indica type plants are suffering. One such plant growing next to Full Moon is dying.
So far, there is no issue with ruderalis genes in Full Moon Party. She is turning to be a good size Sativa plant but with dark green leaves.
Full Moon Party initiated flowering fast enough but she is still not developing flower as much as she should have. Flower has come out only a little. On the other hand, this is an outdoor grow at 13 hours summer solstice sun. And I cannot move her in and out to shorten the day light hour.
Full Moon party continues to stretch week. The stretch is nothing wild. Earlier, she can grow 8 inches in a good week. At third flowering week, she gain 10 cm in height and is 175 cm tall.
Flower has come out a little more. And Full Moon Party is still in late flower transitioning stage.
If she keeps growing like this in midsummer, I may have to top her to control height. I would hate to do that but it is the price of not growing in proper season.
Soils looks okay. No crazy mold nor insects. Anti-insect microbes seemed to be doing their job. And earth worm casting seemed to be keeping root healthy.
With high VPD, I better not over feed Full Moon Party. So, I fed her with half of the normal amount. The concentration contained 1 gram / liters of guano, 2 cc/liter molasses, and 1 gram per liter of powder sea weed. And I fed her with 2 liters of this stuff. I also sprayed Full Moon Party with Epsom salt to build up magnesium supply in the leaves.
My plan was to quickly test the effect and taste. Clones can be grown to flower in dry season. In mid-summer sun, this is not as easy as I thought. The day light hour may be only 13 hours but the sun summer color and intensity encourage plant to veg.
Left hand side of Full Moon Party plant is in shade with no light leak. This side, a few branches developed flower. Think that I can still get some taste within a couple of months from this side.
The top cola gets the most sun and happily vegging. Right hand side of the plant gets some light leak and is also still in veg.
I bend the top to move away from light leak. However, I think main part of this plant will flower in middle of tropical rainstorm season. This will surely test resistance to mold. Que sera sera.
Adapting to the flow of nature gets me best result with least amount of effort.
Growing too early result in unconventional feeding scheme. Full Moon party wants both vegging nutes and flowering nutes.
On type of nutes, I changed my strategy. And I going back to feeding her with vegging nute. Early this week I fed her pasteurized yoghurt for the nitrogen. This was 750 ml yoghurt per 6 liter of water. This much of yoghurt contains 30 grams of protein. And that is similar to 10 grams of slow-release organic nitrogen with some calcium and sugar.
Also mixed in sea weed.
And toward the end of the week, I fed her with two tablespoon of guano as fertilizing tea for her flowering side. Gave her 2 cc per liter of molasses as well. Look like this is going to be a very long run. I want my microbes healthy.
Also added a few strands of purslane. Soil pH is already good. And plant is healthy. Adding purslane keeps top soil form splashing and it will be good to recycle this soil later.
I have two clones going. One was a bit slow. Then I found out why. The slow clone came from sex identification cutting. Flowers turned to branch buds. It was too much for the system to support. So, I cropped of the top. And the side branches are developing well. Basically, these clone are better shape than original seeded plants. I am not in a hurry with these clones.
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Fed Full Moon party with full strength vegging nute at the beginning of the week. This was two tea spoons of cow manure as tea.
Flowers are at different stages.
Left hand side, flower developing okay, around third week of development for 10 weeks flowering plant.
Top cola and right hand side just showing pre-flower stage.
Then I fed Full Moon Party with half strenght flowering nute at the end of the week. One tea spoon of bat guano. Also let ferment in water over night and fed as tea.
The two clones look good.
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Last week, I sprayed Full Moon Party with triacontanol and brasinolide.
Full Moon Party main plant is progressing along well. Effect of the hormone, if any, is not obvious. I can neither see positive nor negative effect at this early flowering stage.
Left hand side, flower started the earliest. And this week, they developed okay. Looks like around fourth week of development for 10 weeks flowering plant. Pistils are brown from over fertilizing with nitrogen laden fertilizer.
Top cola and right hand side progress. More pistils can be seen. They are just at early flowering stage. Hope that they don’t revert back to vegetation.
On the other hand, the clones responded well to brassinolide and triacontanol spray. They grew impressively, Leaves are big and stems are robust. Yes, the effect is like anabolic steroid on body builder.
Oversize plant in 7-liters pot. Hope that these don’t make plant go crazy.
Seemed that I won’t need to give her vegging nute any more. And I am switching to full flower fertilizing regime with P and K. So this week, I ferment guano and molasses and all the plant with this. Clone will be transplant soon and I usually hold back on nitrogen before transplant.
Full Moon Party flower revert back to veg. Developed flower proceed.
Full Moon flowers looks and smell like Somango. Not very frosty. Let’s see how they flower will develop.
Include in picture set is my night light. This is solar powered LED. It said 200w but I seriously doubt that is the real output. Underneath the lamp, brightness is only 50 lux.Left hand side get aout 5
At night, the slower flowering side get 4 to 5 lux of light. The faster flowering was dark. This is why top and right hand side revert back. June is the period of my longest days. Although day is at 13 hours, sun intensity is strong in the tropic.
The clones are nice. In case the effect is good, I’ll take cuttings from these to grow in winter. In any case, this plant is already popular with my family and friends. Thai people are excited about cooking with cannabis leaves. This Full Moon Party put up plenty of ideal looking leaves. Full Moon Party has leaves are mid-size dark color leaves. Sativa leaves have slim fingers. And Indica leaves are deemed too much like maple or papaya.
So, this could be my salad leaves.
Sprinkled guano on top with and earth worm casting on Monday. And I sprayed a concoction of brassinolide, triacontanol, and Calcium Boron on Tuesday night. During spray, humidity was 90% and temperature was 33 degree C. I think the leaf pores were open wide.
I am recording my impression on the effect of brassinolid “natural” PGR.
The side that is in veg showed pre-flower right after brassinolide spray. I had my ah ha moment. So this is the stuff that initiate flowers. Well, with light leak this side revert to vegging again. And pistil wilted.
Actually, having a big part of Full Moon Party staying in veg that is good and fine. My friends want to use ganja leaves for cooking. Leaves will be useful. And I don’t want to deal with mold in heavy down pouring months.
Brassinolide effect is not obvious on developed flower progress okay on plant 1. About three more weeks I can cut these branches off to get an idea of the effect and taste.
Transplanted 1 clone to 25-liters basket. No feeding. New soil is full of goodness from earth worm casting. I drenched this clone with amino seaweed. I want to keep her in veg during the next four months. And I rather have her bushy and not so tall.
Again, Brassinolide spray made the young plant show pre-flowers. I think these flowers buds will turn to larf branches that need to be trim off later.
I will need to trim off the tiny sucker branches later.
For promoting buds and side branches, Brassinolide is way more potent than BAP6/ Seaweed.
My impression is that. I would not spray brassinolide every 21 days. I would use it only once in early veg to promote crazy early growth. And to get dense small flowers, I should use it one more time after a two weeks in flowers.
On the other hand, I like triacontanol for weekly spray. To make triacontanol spray, I use Tween polysorbate. This Tween is a surfactant and it make other stuff that I spray better able to get into leaves.
I think it is good to mix triacontanol in my microbe and micronutrients spray.
It rained off and on this week. The yard is a muddy mushy mess. And working on ganja plants is a real chore.
Flowering side is developing not so well. Pistil turn brown and flowers are not stacking.
This plant likes nutes during veg but not so much in flowering.
Water collected on buds and weight that branch down. And one branch snapped and is hanging down after rain.
I am giving her one more week. Then, I’ll pull out this branch to test the effect and potency. Hope Full Moon Party will be more than a vegetable salad. Although with the current demand for cooking leaves, cannabis salad plant ain’t bad.
I need to keep the vegging side small for three months. Think I should not be feeding Full Moon Party too much until I turn off my vegging night light.
The sole remaining clone is growing well in 25-liters basket. No real surprise. Vegging is of clone is as fast as that of seed. Again, her vegging period need to be extended.
Feeding Full Moon Party clone with sea weeds to promote sucker branches on the side. Too many branches should slow down growth and help me drag on vegging period out until raining season is almost over.
The experiment is going on long enough. And finally I am seeing some frost forming on the flower. Crossing auto Sativa to Sativa hybrid did not get me a fast flowering version. I think there need to be quick Indica in the genetic to get fast version.
And I am letting the flowering go for one more week. After testing the effect, I’ll close this diary.
Clone is okay. If the effect is diesel like, I’ll keep her. This is an easy plant to grow.
Fed Full Moon party with guano and fresh earth worm casting. Early next week, I am planning to give her some live bacteria yogurt.
Water shed week. Mold started on some branches. It is time to chop. Soon enough I’ll test the effect and decide to keep this Full Moon Party going or not.
Some buds are okay. Not big and frosty but smell nice lemony sour. Some are partially damaged but mold are not spreading. I throw these away.
The rest of the plant are still in preflower. Neither flower nor leaves are developing. They will go to tomyam pot.
Clone is awaiting her faith. If flower smoke well, she will get to flower this winter. Else she will green up either curry or tomyam dish.
Full Moon Party flower dried to airy ugly leafy buds. And I packed them into a fat joint.
Taste was bitter licorice at the tip of the tongue then turn to sweetness in the mouth. Love it. Smoke was a bit kush like spicy. Could be from lack of curing. Smell was lemony skunk. I am used to this sort of smell and like it.
After three draws, the effect whacked me. This is strong stuff. The I stubbornly kept going and finished the joint. Whooa, it is sativa. Even the news became funny. The overall effect is about 75/25 Sativa Indica. There was some tempering off at the end but not much. I can still go to sleep but Full Moon Party is most up high until the end. Effect easily lasted for more than four hours.
The next night, I smoked Full Moon Party again. Later I drank some wine. Ohh, Full Moon Party amplified the wine. Got real drunk real quick after just a glass. Then I had trouble sleeping with the extra energy. The next morning I woke up okay.
Full Moon Party is a strong ass up party weed. I am keeping her a bit longer.
For the next step, I want to see if the flowers will fatten up without the light leak.
Feeding,
This week, I did neither feed nor spray the mother plant. And I plan to chop her and cook with her leaves.
I fed the clone with some cow manure tea. And I sprayed the clone with plant steroids.
And I am going to transplant her to 50 liters pot. Then, I shall let her root settle her root with night light for a week. After that, I shall move her away from light to see if she flowers better without the light leak.
Objective on continuing this diary is to see if Full Moon Party flower will stack up away from light leak and with proper phosphorus and potassium feeding.
The week was soaking wet. Full Moon Party clone developing to her pace. She is showing pre-flower. Next week, I’ll start trimming of larf branches.
No feeding, no spraying.
Full Moon Party progress in her flower phase.
Fed only with molasses once this week. And sprayed beauvaria bassiana anti-bugs microbe as preventative measure.
Next week, I’ll start with some guano.
Raining on most day and night. Light level was generally low. Full Moon Party flowers looking just lovely.
Fed Full Moon Party with one full cup of cow manure. It is double of what I normally give. And I soaked the manure only for a few hours. Normally, I ferment manure for a few days before feeding to plant.
Sprinkle one table spoon of bat guano on top of the soil. Again, this is not my normal fermenting-tea-then-feed routine.
I thing rain would continually wash away all liquid fertilizers. So manure would just release plant nutrients as the rain washes down daily.
The weather is expected to stay we for one more full week. There will be reckoning with bugs later.
Potent, nice mango smell. Still, Full Moon Party does not cut it as an interesting strain. Buds do not stack and are way too small. No way to compete with professional F1 triploid.
Professional breeding is another level of cannabis art. I suspect that there must be a feminized tetraploid father and normal diploid mother. Therefore there are two areas that I need to do well; reversing sex with STS, and mutating plant to make polyploid.
More importantly, there should be either large development plot or reliable network to select winning phenotypes.
Btw, someone needs to say it, but if there's ANYONE I've seen that knows how to deal with preventing mildew, you'd be the first guy I'd reference.
Seriously, with those conditions, constant high humidity (though maybe the high temps also help a bit to restrict the mildew)...
Here we go from storms and shit to total drought within a month, and when we get rain and shit in summer, it is super erratic/unpredictable. Weather predictions are wrong like practically every day.
@Med_in_Tropic,
Btw, how does a combination (for simple, fairly cheap, varied complexity) of kelp, yeast, insect frass as a base sort of amino acid/enzyme/sugar complex thing sound?
I'd probably add some kind of seed meal/powder, basalt (or something rich in varied paramagnetic minerals), citric acid to that for a few reasons, but yeah...for the basis, coz those are very different things with pretty specific benefits/use.
Progressing nicely there, plant looks super happy.
I dunno if you're familiar...
Influence of Tryptophan on the growth, yield and quality of chilli with and without fertilizer
http://www.thepab.org/files/2021/December-2021/PAB-MS-20012-408.pdf
In that study they show pretty clear benefits and reference some other studies too...like here...
"Individual fruit yield were increased with the percentage of 46.6 and 94.6% respectively when Tryptophan was applied foliar at 40 mg kg -1 and soil application at 10 mg L -1 , while least individual fruit weight were found in plants to which Tryptophan was not added [31] further reported that Tryptophan formed alterations in plant root structure that resulted in enhancement of water and plant molecules uptake, which may have positive influence on plant growth and development. Positive impact of Tryptophan on crops growth and yield attributes may be due to Tryptophan or auxin uptake through plant roots from the soil or either its absorption through cuticles from plant leaves [59]. Similar results were cited by [60] that Tryptophan enhanced weight of Onion bulbs."
The ideal amount of tryptophan foliar application seems to be about 1.5mg/l. But they had some pretty clear methodological "strictness" so they didn't try it in many different ways (just varying application level, one application, 20 days before estimated flowering). Had pretty obvious gains (in every way). Personally I think small amounts right after germination, soil application, and then a bit later (but while it's still young) foliar application could be quite useful...especially combined with some other stuff...
Oh and the sun been doing some things again, so probably more weirdo atmospheric effects, earthquakes, volcanoes sort of disturbances (like one in congo went off recently) soon.
Is there a street light shining on your plant's right side? Because i have never seen a plant flower to disproportionally. I believe that your other branch is being exposed to some light at night or alot of shade during the day maybe.
@Shooey, 😀😀😀😀😀 thanks mate. I actually always trying new things. Not all my stuff works and certainly not all the time.
The light leak is preventing her from going into full bloom.
I am keeping the light on to drag other plants to stay in veg until my fall.
May keep this grow going for only a few more weeks. I'll get to test the effect. If effect is strong, I'll keep the clone. If not, we will have loads of canna salad.
@Med_in_Tropic, I never question your methods mate. If you can get plants through seering heat and torrential wet seasons in Thailand, then you got the skills mate 💥
@Kin_G, missing shoes, random holes in the yard 😃😃😃😃 But we always have dogs in our lives. The curent canine resident is 14 years old. New generation to keep us on our toes.
😀😀😀 @GYOweed, thanks for introducing me to tria and brass. Exciting stuff.
As for flowering period. This it the firt grow of this mix. But I think minimun 10 weeks. Could be 12. She look and behave like skunk/sativa hybrid. Not much frost. Lemony mango.
I think she would behave after I turn off the night light. I plan to do that in by the end of September. Unless my plants get too big then I may contend with having flowers in the middle of down pouring rain season. Since you ar a desert freman, i need to tell you that it rain side way here during September.
Yeast and frass...though more for future reference (probably too late for that stuff to make a noticeable difference).
Yeast for the amino acids, some minerals, frass (woodlouse is ideal, though I know that's a bit specific) for the chitin shit, insect repellant, defense stimulant (translates to oil production) and some special sugars.
Basalt or some other paramagnetic mineral source for microelements, but also EM effects (and it does affect the plants). Just like those 3g and 5g towers and all that sort of shit, except in a positive way, unlike that shit.
Looks great though, especially considering your conditions. Other guys freak out when it's like 80f, which is practically ideal. I think it's funny. Was like -2c here this morning, nice white sort of covering on the lawn. Considering I got a whole bunch of seedlings outside and a mid-flower plant, I don't really want to go look.
@Med_in_Tropic, I mix the old termite mounds in to my soil mix, just carfull not to go pee pee on them it brings bad luck apparently!! love those old yarns..
Hey what's up dude. "SSomeguy"...if you remember.
Btw, I gotta tell you a few things. Notably about "viruses".
PS. I got a ~21 year old dog living with me. If his name wasn't Nutsy (jokes right?), it'd surely be Anubis. He was also "adopted", followed my brother here from the streets when he was a puppy. And there's another dog here too, she was also "adopted" (abusive owners).
@sir_isO, nearly all my dogs will nibble and sniff the leaves on my plants, they never urinate on them. I wonder if its the CBD they are after as Prozac (fluoxitene) is a known temporary mood stabilizer in K9s...
(I think this range of SSRIs are massively over prescribed by lazy doctors on the gravy train)....
Peace,
SMF
@Med_in_Tropic,
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/notes-from-yesteryear/germ-theory-versus-terrain-the-wrong-side-won-the-day/
https://off-guardian.org/2021/03/07/the-nightingale-alternative/
Just a reminder, Florence Nightingale noticed NO contagion, BUT she DID say vaccines caused disease.
You know, as a geometer, physicist and lunatic, the fraudulent malicious BULLSHIT associated with virology, pharmacy REALLY annoys me. Basic ignorance of irrefutable factors and processes. Why? Coz they souled out. Mammon worshipers. Qlippoth (collective of hollow things, tree of death, Malkuth). They can't improve, so they try to degenerate.
They REFUSE to address fundamentals, essentials and try to frame RESULTS as causes (to cause more problems by selling synthetic, toxic unnecessary shit). If you go look, most people with whatever disease have serious deficiencies of essential elements or excess toxicity. Balance is of course, key. With that you get cellular breakage, electrical imbalances and invariably mitochondrial dysfunction. DNA to RNA breakages occur all the time, proteins misfolding, toxic proteins ejected from cells...people seem to forget that their body is in a constant state of degeneration and regeneration.
Here's an exerpt about PQQ that I happened to save a screenshot of early last year when ASSHOLES started trying to peddle GARBAGE like HCQ, btw.
https://ibb.co/hyRjS4t
Btw, I don't recognize the UN, WEF or WHO. They are worthless, abject failures.
Looks healthy ready to grow bigger leafs.
The night trick is called gas lighting.
When you remove the artificial light after the plant is mature (alternating nodes) it will burst into flower especially if you spray ethylene or cytokinin type hormone before and after switch
@Med_in_Tropic,
Purslane doesn't grow "large" as such, the purslane here varies but tends to grow fairly quickly, it likes water A LOT. It's pretty good food, actually (melatonin), but I gotta say, whenever purslane has grown with the weed, the weed has been good.
@sir_isO, good to know for flowering.
By the way,
I added char, if you remember 😃😃😃 raised my pH. Don’t have acid rain here to bring it down. I use wood vinegar. A step up from kitchen vinegar Good for mite too
Also raising purslane. Got this from a beach. Problem is they grow much slower than cannabis weed. Need to explore other spicies of purslane.
@Med_in_Tropic
The guy mentioned ethylene, right. Imo, the best way to get ethylene is simply with very carbon-rich soil. Ethylene will be one of the byproducts.
Jasmonic acid can also be attained from artemisias (and other plants, basically just make tea from the plants) to "help" with that.
Methanol foliar spray (good antifungal too) might help with the ethylene and carbon issue.
@Med_in_Tropic,
Well, that's not wrong. Lots of SO2 and similar industrial pollutants, high amounts of uranium too.
Have you seen this "soil"?
This was in winter last year (just after shifting a few hundred tons of "soil" and setting up semi-hugelkultur stuff, and you'll get a good idea of why I don't bother with magnesium and to a lesser degree potassium) ...
https://media.growdiaries.com/static/post/video/87897/82216_grow-journal-by-sir-isocustomwell-i-dunno-what-it-is-but-i-do-know-one-of-the-plants-is-a-stabilized-tbk-hybdrid_cnv.mp4
I "fixed" it with the cheapest stuff I figured would help. So it was like $8 or so for 25kg blackstrap molasses, around $18 for 200kg of calcitic lime and around $15 for 5 liter (dry) kelp (other than burying logs, other plant debris and throwing only one layer of some cardboard over it, coz yeah, we get like 6 months drought, if you remember). I've only used a fraction of what I bought though. So Ive been drinking A LOT of molasses for the past 10 months or so, kelp too now and then).
This is what it looked like afterwards...
https://media.growdiaries.com/static/post/video/87897/82215_grow-journal-by-sir-isocustomwell-i-dunno-what-it-is-but-i-do-know-one-of-the-plants-is-a-stabilized-tbk-hybdrid_cnv.mp4
So I reckon that worked REALLY well (if you look closely, especially at the end of that 2nd video on the left slightly back, there's a plant that grew for 10 months...eventually around 4m, it kinda fell over, like uprooted a few times coz we had some fairly heavy storms).
@Med_in_Tropic,
Well you remember that VERY donkey dong looking plant I had? That thing had practically no trunk diameter and it was STUPID efficient, bulky, strong (not so much the structure since with the rain eventually I had to support with some ropes), etc. I mean seriously, even at like a bit over 2m or so it had like a twig as its trunk. Didn't stop it from being about the best weed I've seen.
Funnily enough, the brown dog in one of those photos, when she was very young (and the plant fairly young) she actually kinda ran over and broke the trunk somewhat. But it just made the flowers bulk and the plant did practically nothing with the trunk.
Med you talk about fermenting your manure; what is your though on aerobic vs anaerobic bacteria? I am the type of guy that *top dress* my container with dry amendments (blood meal, kelp meal, alfalfa meal, etc etc,) that I let sit in plain water 36hrs before I water my plants. So far so good! What is all the hype with using bubblers and worrying about aerobic bacteria?
Hi @sativaman, thanks for your thought. In short, I think it is all about compatability with your existing system and environment.
I think choice of microbes depends on the type of what you are using in the soil and how wet/dry you soil is. In general, I prefer anarobic. They work better with what I am using.
Currently, I mix in anarobic fungi for various purposes. Starting with mycorrhiza at early stage. At later stages, I add beavaria to kill bug eggs and trichoderma to control harmful mold. And my soil is full of coconut husk as humus and also to improve soil aeration in conctantly raining climate. Aerobic microbes are usually digestive types. They eat humus and coconut husks in my soil. And my grow can goes 5 to 6 months. Decomposed coconut husk compact my soil and kill roots. And it is bad in heavy raining tropical out door.
About my manure, I fement manure as well as coconut husks to drown bugs egg and wash away any salt. And I only ferment these only for a day or two. Also, I use very aged and dry manure. They don't really need fermenting to release nutrient. One good quality manure cost 75 cent a bag and would last me a few months. It works great as slow release fertilizer out door in the rain.
Coconut husk fermenting is to wash away tannic acid and salt. Tannic acid captures the all too precious calcium and iron. Organic is a labor of love. It is not commercially cost effective.
In general, I avoid aerobic microbes. Microbes because there are all sort of stuff in the mix not just bacteria. Again, it is the way that I mix my soil and the repetoire of stuff that I am using in my climate. So if your air space in the soil comes from pearlite and mineral base stuff, by all means it is a better deal than anarobic. And if you spray your compost fertilizer, yes, it is much better because of added anti-disease protection.
Final feeding week, it is only anarobic for me. Lactic Acid Bacteria (yoghurt, LAB) are anarobic. And it promotes sticky terpenes.
@GYOweed, i like to use seaweed for other stuff in it. So, my plant will have plenty of BAP. And yes, denser and generally more compact flower nugs. I thought it was just the climate.
@Med_in_Tropic, my uncle over grew bottoms of Mody Dick auto and we got few seeds. One is only ONLY making weird ass ugly 3 leafed ducky ugly leafs. Im not sure Maybe some asshole growing hemp miles away in desert? Or its just late flowering S1. Lol i hate autos. Its very beastly though. Hey don't give up in bap becuase since ive used it people say my nugs are harder. But yes i think too much it will kill some yield...but the thrichomes and density mmmm
Yup @GYOweed. Polen was from a male auto. Flash Seeds sell some auto flowerings strain as regular. And this was from White Siruis auto. The was a type fo stativa dominate Chemdawg.
Pollination was kind of accidental. Mother plant was a cross between NYC Diesel and Somango type. Philosoper Seeds Heaven Fruit. This wasn't like a planned breeding. It was a ten meter pollination from fast flowering regular male.
I got two seeds in my cabinet and one grew. It was nice enough to be a female. But I am happy to see how she grow fast, eats like a hog, and put out flower easily.
The plant still looks great.
I have an interesting sativa here, it seems to make blue calyxes, with some grey/black look along with that. Similar sort of problem in that it is a very long growing plant, and unfortunately it was planted roughly mid-summer, almost mid-winter now, though it's flowering (of course far less than ideally, gets low light, around 4-5 hours direct light a day, been <0c a few times, as it basically only started flowering at the start of winter).
The parent was called blue widow (simply a name unrelated to other blue widows, didn't know there were any)...it's taken some rain (though not particularly heavy) on some occasions in mid-flower too, but so far seems particularly resilient. I feel it is the type of plant I should plant just around mid-winter, so that it can veg all the way into summer.
Water cured , interesting🤔. Nice technique👍.You don't see that very much! If you have a minute I'd like to learn a little about water curing & pros/cons.
@Med_in_Tropic, Wow, Thank you! I really enjoyed the detailed info on water curing.
Yeah humidity in your area would most likely mold late flower, it kinda limits some things or at least makes them risky. I'm glad you've found a way to keep growing & enjoying it 💚🌱👍💪
@cheetah844, I think full water cure takes a week. And it is more for infusion than smoking. Some time I do this when I have to harvest way too early and when it is too wet for me to properly hang buds to dry. I am in Thailand and there are weeks with 90% relative humidity.
My partial water cure dissovle carbohydrate and make drying quicker at expense of terpene loss. I also loss a bit of trichome but not enough to make me cry.
pro's
You don't have to worry about mold infestation for full water cure during drying and curing.
Leaving buds in water for a few days makes them dry up faster.
rough trimming will do. It will be ugly no matter what.
Not much green cholorphyl left. Smooth to smoke.
Fast, no smell during curing, no need space to hang and dry buds.
I am against using water cure on rotting and moldy buds. I throw them all out.
Con's
Black hard lumps of buds and leaves. Okay if it is used for infusing with oil/butter.
Very little nice fruity smell. Most terpenes will evaporate. Not nice if you enjoy flavorful smoke. Again, okay with infusion.
30% less weight. Most of the plant tissue dissolve away. However, it is more concentrated and buds so more potent.
Most of my insomniac friends do not smoke. And they take either decarbed dry buds in tea or infused coconut oil. They don't go for "bag" appeal. So, water curing is okay with these folks. Lately, I make more infused oil than smoking buds.
Ah that's a bit of a shame mate. You said this one was a relation of our heavens fruit?? It looks similar. Sticky and mango. But I found the same thing with the yield, and fluffy buds. Only I had a lot more mould trouble too. It does have a magic aroma in the garden while growing though. At least it's always nice to try a new one and get it through into the bags. Enjoy the harvest med. We'll done in difficult conditions 👍
@Med_in_Tropic, how could you makes polyploid? I'm not being sarcastic either. I'm wondering how you could achieve that... The odds would increase if you had polyploid parents, right? Either you're a lucky person with polyploid or you know how to pronounce polyploidism for sure.
@Shooey,thanks mate. Effect was crazy strong. It was a one puff wonder. 😀😀😀😀
Felt I learned a bit about breeding plan. Going to try making polyploid mother on next grow.
@Med_in_Tropic, Im just getting to the experimental stage myself but not quite there... I'd love to do a simultainious run in our opposite locations, as controlled in terms of feeding as possible, just to see what natural conditions they prefer. Thats a different sun, Rh and daily heat cycle down where you are.. if I remember correctly . have a good one..
SMF
😀😀😀😀😀 @sailormoonflowers, thanks man.
I am just running plants through the gauntlet to see how they would react. I do this in the wet season. And i grow for real after the end of the year the rain.
Med_in_Tropic
