Custom Breeder & Strain Full Moon Party grow diary (journal) week21 by Med_in_Tropic

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Btw, someone needs to say it, but if there's ANYONE I've seen that knows how to deal with preventing mildew, you'd be the first guy I'd reference. Seriously, with those conditions, constant high humidity (though maybe the high temps also help a bit to restrict the mildew)... Here we go from storms and shit to total drought within a month, and when we get rain and shit in summer, it is super erratic/unpredictable. Weather predictions are wrong like practically every day.

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sir_isOcommented3 years ago

@GYOweed, Dude, I've grown more than a thousand varied plants, in africa...mostly from randoms (as in, only 2 commercial seeds, ever). Do the math.

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GYOweedcommented3 years ago

@sir_isO, lol landrace sativas. Read about them sometime

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sir_isOcommented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, Btw, how does a combination (for simple, fairly cheap, varied complexity) of kelp, yeast, insect frass as a base sort of amino acid/enzyme/sugar complex thing sound? I'd probably add some kind of seed meal/powder, basalt (or something rich in varied paramagnetic minerals), citric acid to that for a few reasons, but yeah...for the basis, coz those are very different things with pretty specific benefits/use.

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InspireMecommentedweek 193 years ago

Good luck with your grow 🙂👌

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sir_isOcommentedweek 153 years ago

Progressing nicely there, plant looks super happy. I dunno if you're familiar... Influence of Tryptophan on the growth, yield and quality of chilli with and without fertilizer http://www.thepab.org/files/2021/December-2021/PAB-MS-20012-408.pdf In that study they show pretty clear benefits and reference some other studies too...like here... "Individual fruit yield were increased with the percentage of 46.6 and 94.6% respectively when Tryptophan was applied foliar at 40 mg kg -1 and soil application at 10 mg L -1 , while least individual fruit weight were found in plants to which Tryptophan was not added [31] further reported that Tryptophan formed alterations in plant root structure that resulted in enhancement of water and plant molecules uptake, which may have positive influence on plant growth and development. Positive impact of Tryptophan on crops growth and yield attributes may be due to Tryptophan or auxin uptake through plant roots from the soil or either its absorption through cuticles from plant leaves [59]. Similar results were cited by [60] that Tryptophan enhanced weight of Onion bulbs." The ideal amount of tryptophan foliar application seems to be about 1.5mg/l. But they had some pretty clear methodological "strictness" so they didn't try it in many different ways (just varying application level, one application, 20 days before estimated flowering). Had pretty obvious gains (in every way). Personally I think small amounts right after germination, soil application, and then a bit later (but while it's still young) foliar application could be quite useful...especially combined with some other stuff... Oh and the sun been doing some things again, so probably more weirdo atmospheric effects, earthquakes, volcanoes sort of disturbances (like one in congo went off recently) soon.

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y0shimitsucommentedweek 124 years ago

Great content 🙌🏻 well done 🌱

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budcrack961commentedweek 193 years ago

Is there a street light shining on your plant's right side? Because i have never seen a plant flower to disproportionally. I believe that your other branch is being exposed to some light at night or alot of shade during the day maybe.

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

@Shooey, 😀😀😀😀😀 thanks mate. I actually always trying new things. Not all my stuff works and certainly not all the time. The light leak is preventing her from going into full bloom. I am keeping the light on to drag other plants to stay in veg until my fall. May keep this grow going for only a few more weeks. I'll get to test the effect. If effect is strong, I'll keep the clone. If not, we will have loads of canna salad.

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Shooeycommented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, I never question your methods mate. If you can get plants through seering heat and torrential wet seasons in Thailand, then you got the skills mate 💥

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budcrack961commented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, Nice! Good luck in your groww

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Shooeycommentedweek 173 years ago

Always an interesting read med. Plants are looking lovely mate👍

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Grey_Wolfcommentedweek 153 years ago

looking good mate 👊

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Kin_Gcommentedweek 104 years ago

:D Niiiice! Hope the dogs bring you joy brother!

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Kin_Gcommented4 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, Hahaha lovely little terrorists then :P

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Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago

@Kin_G, missing shoes, random holes in the yard 😃😃😃😃 But we always have dogs in our lives. The curent canine resident is 14 years old. New generation to keep us on our toes.

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GYOweedcommentedweek 213 years ago

They're such a tease down there. 8 weeks flowering?

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

😀😀😀 @GYOweed, thanks for introducing me to tria and brass. Exciting stuff. As for flowering period. This it the firt grow of this mix. But I think minimun 10 weeks. Could be 12. She look and behave like skunk/sativa hybrid. Not much frost. Lemony mango. I think she would behave after I turn off the night light. I plan to do that in by the end of September. Unless my plants get too big then I may contend with having flowers in the middle of down pouring rain season. Since you ar a desert freman, i need to tell you that it rain side way here during September.

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sir_isOcommentedweek 163 years ago

Yeast and frass...though more for future reference (probably too late for that stuff to make a noticeable difference). Yeast for the amino acids, some minerals, frass (woodlouse is ideal, though I know that's a bit specific) for the chitin shit, insect repellant, defense stimulant (translates to oil production) and some special sugars. Basalt or some other paramagnetic mineral source for microelements, but also EM effects (and it does affect the plants). Just like those 3g and 5g towers and all that sort of shit, except in a positive way, unlike that shit. Looks great though, especially considering your conditions. Other guys freak out when it's like 80f, which is practically ideal. I think it's funny. Was like -2c here this morning, nice white sort of covering on the lawn. Considering I got a whole bunch of seedlings outside and a mid-flower plant, I don't really want to go look.

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sailormoonflowerscommented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, been here just over half my life... been 87 countries in my life. cant be anywhere else but here.

Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

@sailormoonflowers,😀😀 😀😂 You are Thai

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sailormoonflowerscommented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, I mix the old termite mounds in to my soil mix, just carfull not to go pee pee on them it brings bad luck apparently!! love those old yarns..

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sir_isOcommentedweek 104 years ago

Hey what's up dude. "SSomeguy"...if you remember. Btw, I gotta tell you a few things. Notably about "viruses". PS. I got a ~21 year old dog living with me. If his name wasn't Nutsy (jokes right?), it'd surely be Anubis. He was also "adopted", followed my brother here from the streets when he was a puppy. And there's another dog here too, she was also "adopted" (abusive owners).

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sailormoonflowerscommented3 years ago

@sir_isO, nearly all my dogs will nibble and sniff the leaves on my plants, they never urinate on them. I wonder if its the CBD they are after as Prozac (fluoxitene) is a known temporary mood stabilizer in K9s... (I think this range of SSRIs are massively over prescribed by lazy doctors on the gravy train).... Peace, SMF

sir_isOcommented4 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/notes-from-yesteryear/germ-theory-versus-terrain-the-wrong-side-won-the-day/ https://off-guardian.org/2021/03/07/the-nightingale-alternative/ Just a reminder, Florence Nightingale noticed NO contagion, BUT she DID say vaccines caused disease. You know, as a geometer, physicist and lunatic, the fraudulent malicious BULLSHIT associated with virology, pharmacy REALLY annoys me. Basic ignorance of irrefutable factors and processes. Why? Coz they souled out. Mammon worshipers. Qlippoth (collective of hollow things, tree of death, Malkuth). They can't improve, so they try to degenerate. They REFUSE to address fundamentals, essentials and try to frame RESULTS as causes (to cause more problems by selling synthetic, toxic unnecessary shit). If you go look, most people with whatever disease have serious deficiencies of essential elements or excess toxicity. Balance is of course, key. With that you get cellular breakage, electrical imbalances and invariably mitochondrial dysfunction. DNA to RNA breakages occur all the time, proteins misfolding, toxic proteins ejected from cells...people seem to forget that their body is in a constant state of degeneration and regeneration. Here's an exerpt about PQQ that I happened to save a screenshot of early last year when ASSHOLES started trying to peddle GARBAGE like HCQ, btw. https://ibb.co/hyRjS4t Btw, I don't recognize the UN, WEF or WHO. They are worthless, abject failures.

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Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago

@sir_isO, i thought my 16 years old is very old.

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GYOweedcommentedweek 94 years ago

Looks healthy ready to grow bigger leafs. The night trick is called gas lighting. When you remove the artificial light after the plant is mature (alternating nodes) it will burst into flower especially if you spray ethylene or cytokinin type hormone before and after switch

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sir_isOcommented4 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, Purslane doesn't grow "large" as such, the purslane here varies but tends to grow fairly quickly, it likes water A LOT. It's pretty good food, actually (melatonin), but I gotta say, whenever purslane has grown with the weed, the weed has been good.

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Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago

@sir_isO, good to know for flowering. By the way, I added char, if you remember 😃😃😃 raised my pH. Don’t have acid rain here to bring it down. I use wood vinegar. A step up from kitchen vinegar Good for mite too Also raising purslane. Got this from a beach. Problem is they grow much slower than cannabis weed. Need to explore other spicies of purslane.

sir_isOcommented4 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic The guy mentioned ethylene, right. Imo, the best way to get ethylene is simply with very carbon-rich soil. Ethylene will be one of the byproducts. Jasmonic acid can also be attained from artemisias (and other plants, basically just make tea from the plants) to "help" with that. Methanol foliar spray (good antifungal too) might help with the ethylene and carbon issue.

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sir_isOcommentedweek 114 years ago

Looks great dude.

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sir_isOcommented4 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, Well, that's not wrong. Lots of SO2 and similar industrial pollutants, high amounts of uranium too. Have you seen this "soil"? This was in winter last year (just after shifting a few hundred tons of "soil" and setting up semi-hugelkultur stuff, and you'll get a good idea of why I don't bother with magnesium and to a lesser degree potassium) ... https://media.growdiaries.com/static/post/video/87897/82216_grow-journal-by-sir-isocustomwell-i-dunno-what-it-is-but-i-do-know-one-of-the-plants-is-a-stabilized-tbk-hybdrid_cnv.mp4 I "fixed" it with the cheapest stuff I figured would help. So it was like $8 or so for 25kg blackstrap molasses, around $18 for 200kg of calcitic lime and around $15 for 5 liter (dry) kelp (other than burying logs, other plant debris and throwing only one layer of some cardboard over it, coz yeah, we get like 6 months drought, if you remember). I've only used a fraction of what I bought though. So Ive been drinking A LOT of molasses for the past 10 months or so, kelp too now and then). This is what it looked like afterwards... https://media.growdiaries.com/static/post/video/87897/82215_grow-journal-by-sir-isocustomwell-i-dunno-what-it-is-but-i-do-know-one-of-the-plants-is-a-stabilized-tbk-hybdrid_cnv.mp4 So I reckon that worked REALLY well (if you look closely, especially at the end of that 2nd video on the left slightly back, there's a plant that grew for 10 months...eventually around 4m, it kinda fell over, like uprooted a few times coz we had some fairly heavy storms).

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Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago

@sir_isO, well you have vinegar rain and radioactive soil. 😀😀😀😀😀

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sir_isOcommented4 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, Well you remember that VERY donkey dong looking plant I had? That thing had practically no trunk diameter and it was STUPID efficient, bulky, strong (not so much the structure since with the rain eventually I had to support with some ropes), etc. I mean seriously, even at like a bit over 2m or so it had like a twig as its trunk. Didn't stop it from being about the best weed I've seen. Funnily enough, the brown dog in one of those photos, when she was very young (and the plant fairly young) she actually kinda ran over and broke the trunk somewhat. But it just made the flowers bulk and the plant did practically nothing with the trunk.

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sativamancommentedweek 283 years ago

Med you talk about fermenting your manure; what is your though on aerobic vs anaerobic bacteria? I am the type of guy that *top dress* my container with dry amendments (blood meal, kelp meal, alfalfa meal, etc etc,) that I let sit in plain water 36hrs before I water my plants. So far so good! What is all the hype with using bubblers and worrying about aerobic bacteria?

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

😀😀😀😀😀 @sativaman, there are so many things out there about growing weed. Truely, I think i know only tip of the proverbial iceberg.

sativamancommented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, Thank you very much for sharing what you've learned. You are a true bible man!!! I am speechless.

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

Hi @sativaman, thanks for your thought. In short, I think it is all about compatability with your existing system and environment. I think choice of microbes depends on the type of what you are using in the soil and how wet/dry you soil is. In general, I prefer anarobic. They work better with what I am using. Currently, I mix in anarobic fungi for various purposes. Starting with mycorrhiza at early stage. At later stages, I add beavaria to kill bug eggs and trichoderma to control harmful mold. And my soil is full of coconut husk as humus and also to improve soil aeration in conctantly raining climate. Aerobic microbes are usually digestive types. They eat humus and coconut husks in my soil. And my grow can goes 5 to 6 months. Decomposed coconut husk compact my soil and kill roots. And it is bad in heavy raining tropical out door. About my manure, I fement manure as well as coconut husks to drown bugs egg and wash away any salt. And I only ferment these only for a day or two. Also, I use very aged and dry manure. They don't really need fermenting to release nutrient. One good quality manure cost 75 cent a bag and would last me a few months. It works great as slow release fertilizer out door in the rain. Coconut husk fermenting is to wash away tannic acid and salt. Tannic acid captures the all too precious calcium and iron. Organic is a labor of love. It is not commercially cost effective. In general, I avoid aerobic microbes. Microbes because there are all sort of stuff in the mix not just bacteria. Again, it is the way that I mix my soil and the repetoire of stuff that I am using in my climate. So if your air space in the soil comes from pearlite and mineral base stuff, by all means it is a better deal than anarobic. And if you spray your compost fertilizer, yes, it is much better because of added anti-disease protection. Final feeding week, it is only anarobic for me. Lactic Acid Bacteria (yoghurt, LAB) are anarobic. And it promotes sticky terpenes.

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GYOweedcommentedweek 173 years ago

Weird leafs. U said this has auto genes in a parent?

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

@GYOweed, i like to use seaweed for other stuff in it. So, my plant will have plenty of BAP. And yes, denser and generally more compact flower nugs. I thought it was just the climate.

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GYOweedcommented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, my uncle over grew bottoms of Mody Dick auto and we got few seeds. One is only ONLY making weird ass ugly 3 leafed ducky ugly leafs. Im not sure Maybe some asshole growing hemp miles away in desert? Or its just late flowering S1. Lol i hate autos. Its very beastly though. Hey don't give up in bap becuase since ive used it people say my nugs are harder. But yes i think too much it will kill some yield...but the thrichomes and density mmmm

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

Yup @GYOweed. Polen was from a male auto. Flash Seeds sell some auto flowerings strain as regular. And this was from White Siruis auto. The was a type fo stativa dominate Chemdawg. Pollination was kind of accidental. Mother plant was a cross between NYC Diesel and Somango type. Philosoper Seeds Heaven Fruit. This wasn't like a planned breeding. It was a ten meter pollination from fast flowering regular male. I got two seeds in my cabinet and one grew. It was nice enough to be a female. But I am happy to see how she grow fast, eats like a hog, and put out flower easily.

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sir_isOcommentedweek 173 years ago

The plant still looks great. I have an interesting sativa here, it seems to make blue calyxes, with some grey/black look along with that. Similar sort of problem in that it is a very long growing plant, and unfortunately it was planted roughly mid-summer, almost mid-winter now, though it's flowering (of course far less than ideally, gets low light, around 4-5 hours direct light a day, been <0c a few times, as it basically only started flowering at the start of winter). The parent was called blue widow (simply a name unrelated to other blue widows, didn't know there were any)...it's taken some rain (though not particularly heavy) on some occasions in mid-flower too, but so far seems particularly resilient. I feel it is the type of plant I should plant just around mid-winter, so that it can veg all the way into summer.

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GYOweedcommented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, growing out of his ears

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sir_isOcommented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, Well, I grow them whenever, they adapt. Keep on pollinating, hybridizing. I've gone through quite a few generations of some plants.

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

@sir_isO, so this is why you have weeds that are a couple of years old.

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GYOweedcommentedweek 84 years ago

Nice are those food lights?

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Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago

@GYOweed, 😁 force vegging, you mean.

GYOweedcommented4 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, nice so u can force flower them outdoors

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Med_in_Tropiccommented4 years ago

@GYOweed, just 20 W LED fence light. I am drilling my wall to pit up solar panel 90 W LED. These are to keep plant in veg.

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cheetah844commentedweek 283 years ago

Water cured , interesting🤔. Nice technique👍.You don't see that very much! If you have a minute I'd like to learn a little about water curing & pros/cons.

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cheetah844commented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, Wow, Thank you! I really enjoyed the detailed info on water curing. Yeah humidity in your area would most likely mold late flower, it kinda limits some things or at least makes them risky. I'm glad you've found a way to keep growing & enjoying it 💚🌱👍💪

Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

@cheetah844, I think full water cure takes a week. And it is more for infusion than smoking. Some time I do this when I have to harvest way too early and when it is too wet for me to properly hang buds to dry. I am in Thailand and there are weeks with 90% relative humidity. My partial water cure dissovle carbohydrate and make drying quicker at expense of terpene loss. I also loss a bit of trichome but not enough to make me cry. pro's You don't have to worry about mold infestation for full water cure during drying and curing. Leaving buds in water for a few days makes them dry up faster. rough trimming will do. It will be ugly no matter what. Not much green cholorphyl left. Smooth to smoke. Fast, no smell during curing, no need space to hang and dry buds. I am against using water cure on rotting and moldy buds. I throw them all out. Con's Black hard lumps of buds and leaves. Okay if it is used for infusing with oil/butter. Very little nice fruity smell. Most terpenes will evaporate. Not nice if you enjoy flavorful smoke. Again, okay with infusion. 30% less weight. Most of the plant tissue dissolve away. However, it is more concentrated and buds so more potent. Most of my insomniac friends do not smoke. And they take either decarbed dry buds in tea or infused coconut oil. They don't go for "bag" appeal. So, water curing is okay with these folks. Lately, I make more infused oil than smoking buds.

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Shooeycommentedweek 283 years ago

Ah that's a bit of a shame mate. You said this one was a relation of our heavens fruit?? It looks similar. Sticky and mango. But I found the same thing with the yield, and fluffy buds. Only I had a lot more mould trouble too. It does have a magic aroma in the garden while growing though. At least it's always nice to try a new one and get it through into the bags. Enjoy the harvest med. We'll done in difficult conditions 👍

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cheetah844commented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, how could you makes polyploid? I'm not being sarcastic either. I'm wondering how you could achieve that... The odds would increase if you had polyploid parents, right? Either you're a lucky person with polyploid or you know how to pronounce polyploidism for sure.

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

@Shooey,thanks mate. Effect was crazy strong. It was a one puff wonder. 😀😀😀😀 Felt I learned a bit about breeding plan. Going to try making polyploid mother on next grow.

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sailormoonflowerscommentedweek 263 years ago

I have a lot to learn from you @Med_in_Tropic. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. :)

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sailormoonflowerscommented3 years ago

@Med_in_Tropic, Im just getting to the experimental stage myself but not quite there... I'd love to do a simultainious run in our opposite locations, as controlled in terms of feeding as possible, just to see what natural conditions they prefer. Thats a different sun, Rh and daily heat cycle down where you are.. if I remember correctly . have a good one.. SMF

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Med_in_Tropiccommented3 years ago

😀😀😀😀😀 @sailormoonflowers, thanks man. I am just running plants through the gauntlet to see how they would react. I do this in the wet season. And i grow for real after the end of the year the rain.

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