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Jimsbuds
Jimsbudsstarted grow question 4 years ago
By looking at my pics, is there any advice you would give about my overall result? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
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ijustdontgiveaf
ijustdontgiveafanswered grow question 4 years ago
now that's a fun discussion here.. first of all, as it was mentioned, the light isn't really a great light, but you did well! the plants look healthy and they flowered, which is what's most important. to the discussion below: saying that the cxm32 is "better" than the cxb3590 is a bit of a strange statement, as it first has to be defined what means "better"? do you mean the light output? do you mean value/price? it should be understood that both, the luminus cxm32, as well as the 3590's are a range of LEDs, with various multiple specifications and generations (well.. the cxb is the second generation of the cxa), and if i have the chance to get a gen1 cxm32 at CRI70 or a cxb3590 as a DB bin, then i go for the cxb every time.. (yes, unlike what many believe, CD is NOT the top bin for the cxb3590, it's DB) i do however fully agree with Nobody01 that at this point, i would not invest too much in COBs anymore, but go the quantum board route with either lm301b's or lm301h's (cost a bit more, for a very slight difference).. Having said that I do have and still use a cxb3590, but i also run 2 qb's with lm301b & 660nm reds, and i have 3 more quantum boards on the way (with lm301h's, 660nm and a single 430nm and a single 730nm diode.. whether they make a difference i will test) coming back: the plant eventually doesn't really care about what lamp she's under, as long as she get's sufficient DLI (daily light integral) (yes, it's a bit simplified, as spectrum does play a role), which for cannabis would be a minimum of 20 mol a day, or for best yield around 40 mols a day. more brings only diminishing returns with much higher cost of electricity, and then you'd also have to add extra co2 for the plant to be able to actually use that higher intensity.. How these 20 (min)/40 (best) mol per day are split up, depends on the light-cycle.. if you're running 18 hours through veg and bloom (as an auto), then this would attribute to a minimum of 308 micro-mol (umol) per second, or 617 umol/s in the best scenario for highest yield per power-ratio. this is basically the often-seen PPFD value that growers look at when comparing and testing grow-lights.. If you have a photoperiodic plant, then these 20 mol/40 mol would have to be divided up by 12 hours instead of 18, and then you'd be around 462 (minimum) umol/s or 925 umol/sec (optimal, but requires co2 to be added). Next, obviously this needs to be spread out evenly over the canopy, and not just in some hotspots. That's one of the main reasons, why i prefer the quantum boards, as they pair the high efficiency with a good direct spreading.. and looking at China, these boards don't have to be too expensive either. Kingbrite uses original Samsung diodes, and you can even get added Cree's (for the 660nm). They were a bit slow in responding to me, so i eventually ordered from Meijiu which are the second trustable manufacturer, and i have to say that they were a charm to work with so far.
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MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanyanswered grow question 4 years ago
@ Nobody01 the CXM 32 is better than the CXB3590 ๐Ÿ˜ณ such statements should not be seriously shared with a newcomer. You should explain to us what is better about her?
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NobodysBuds
NobodysBudsanswered grow question 4 years ago
Looks great... good genetics with tons of trichomes that early... can't be doing too much wrong. Harbinger is being a bit rough, but he isn't entirley wrong either. Those lights are just inefficient and hot. You likely get 2-3 years and they'll be 80% intensity after ~20k hours and the higher quality stuff takes 50-60k hours and runs cooler which is why it lasts longer among other reasons related to fabrication of the diodes. If it was total trash, your plant wouldn't have bloomed well. I recently upgraded from an equivalent to your light, for all intents and purposes, and my plants cowered at the new intensity, lol... i burned one to the point the leaves turned pale on top within 1/2 day. With significantly fewer watts, i had significantly more photons bouncing around. Get your use out of that light. Research something that'll save you 33% off your monthly electric bill in the meantime. It's really not bad to do it this way. HAd i spent the money onthe nicer stuff initially, i doubt i'd have done it as well -- even now i'm bumblefucking through optimizing them for my space(s). more about procrastination, lol, but still... Don't just rely on typical specs. e.g. the luminus CXM-32 is initially a better cob led than the cree cxb3590, but after 10,000 hours of use it's trash in comparison and getting worse by the hour. That's knowledge beyondn what i am familiar with, but has to do with how it is manufactured differently. there's a youtube video that explains why it is a trash product with glorified specs that don't last long. If they don't give some ratings that tells you when it's 80% intensity, they are hiding something... if they say it lasts X thousand hours but don't mention what that means -- they are likely hiding something.. could be 25k hours until 50% intensity and that's no good long before then. The really cheap stuff on amazon will simply lie, lie, lie. samsung lm301 @3k or 3500 and some 660 red diodes mixed in is the best you can get out there at moment. Lumiled are not as efficient, but the zeus 600w fixture is pretty cool, if it maintains intensity for 50k hours or more... have not looked into that, because i'm not in the market and it's a newer product out there.
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DeadwebsiteBoringcommunity
DeadwebsiteBoringcommunityanswered grow question 4 years ago
You did well as a person growing a plant.. Your led light did not do you any favours, a lot of people hate it when I say stuff like this but I'm sorry Besteva sold you a crappy light...
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MadeInGermany
MadeInGermanyanswered grow question 4 years ago
Hey buddy :-) what can I say ๐Ÿ˜ณ they look really beautiful ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘. Great colors, very nice buds ๐Ÿ˜ and the overall picture of the plant is great :-) They did a great job ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป
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