Ok ty very much,I was thinking they were looking good but since I'm a noob it helps to ask.yes I thought they seemed short but they are a week apart and the larger one has a laid-down twisted stem which is why I started LST because it literally laid down like a soft serve ice cream would and then grew straight horizontal before I caught it.the oldest starts week 5 this Tuesday,I'm adding Stonington plant food today one eighth of a cup and the strain is critical purple