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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1started grow question 8 months ago
I did find what was causing the burning but they decided to say im stuck again. The question is who is stuck. Why is it im saying im stuck. Why isn't saying grow.
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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
Growth tips look like there growing again and the temperature with the light on is only 77 °F and with the fan blowing that keeps the HLG light really cool, I can say the HLG 250 stays very cool with a small blowing on it. Im thinking its something to do with 2ml/gal AB being to hot for the metabolism and purple on the leaves in the low 80's, flushing and dropping to 1ml/gal ab seems to be a solution what was causing that. I couldn't say for sure what it is. I hope this wasn't a problem for any other gardeners, it was quite costly trying to figure it out. I was somewhat disappointed with the fact that it was because I liked indoor gardening, it really is an expense for a few months if your spending on a light per month and the heating can be expensive if your heating for 24 hours at 1500w.
blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
The non cannabis plant does appear to be growing but it grows much slower than cannabis, so when you check on your plants everyday and see growth at the tips it isn't there at all. You would think that there would be but there isn't. Mystery.
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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
I added another half litre but of the 1ml/gal solution to see if they can grow at all but so far it looks like some of them look like they could grow at the growth tips or not at all, something is definitely holding these from growing at all. If I can get one or two growing out of the bunch I can clone from it but other than that id have to reveg to keep these plants, im not really to excited about how unless they really keep it going on the clone side for these plants there gone, the seed side is like that with S1 packs. So far another week of it and i'll have wasted 2 months of electricity trying to correct these and I haven't and thats pretty abysmal.
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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
The feeling im getting right now is like when your really cold but its in a warm space.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
I did see some action on the growing tips of some of the plants this morning but had I of kept using the 2ml/gal AB 2ml/gal Pro Cal it was like something was wrong with there metabolism, it was being slowed by something and the purple on the leaves indicate that it has freezing/cold damage properties on the safety data sheet, if thats what it is. Were not out of it yet on these plants.
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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
I refilled with 1ml gal AB and 1ml/gal Pro Cal and thats only because im not sure whats going on with the 2ml/gal. I can't possibly feed them a full strength if there not responding. Im probably only able to see what that does but the containers are pretty wet right now. Its really hard to figure this out, its not an easy solution. I kind of wonder had this been organics would they of had the same response to whatever is effecting them, I don't think its the fresh water with a clean filter and my filter isn't clean anymore, im not sure whats in it but I don't think its the filter.
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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
Its hard to imagine these plants not growing, its pretty difficult to solve.
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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
They were yellowing the from the fresh water and so I added half litre of nutrient solution but im probably not able to fix these.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
I turned off the HLG 250 and put all of the 2 gallons back under the larger light and all of the 1 litres and smaller containers look like they can be thrown away away and I cut all the male flowers off of the flowering males that autoflowered from stress. I can only really hope that the larger containers start vegging or I cut them and possibly use the outdoor for reveg or lose the plants altogether. I can't solve it, im not able to explain it, theres fungus gnats but that isn't what I think it is. Its a significant loss considering I can't make seeds anymore if I lose the strain but that is the reality of not doing that sooner.
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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
Whatever it is causes some of the leaves to twist and fold under and warp the the tip of the leaf to the side but also alot of the leaves are clawing and the texture on the leaf is very stiff and locked out looking.
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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
They looked to clawed and locked out, so I added another 500ml of water to each plant and the runoff on one cup of it was 0.2 ec and the full shop vac didn't give a reading so im thinking that there is something doing that.
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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
I took two of the 2 gallon containers and pulled the plants out because they didn't look very healthy and removed all of the coco from the rootball and replaced them with plants in 1 litre that looked somewhat healthier but I didn't see any fungus gnats in the coco, only healthy white roots that circled the container without any top growth. Im pretty sure it would be cheaper to cut these plants at this point and throw them out but i'll give them a couple more weeks until it cools off and they need heating and then i'll downsize to a smaller space or cut them. Im pretty sure the coco is good but the plants are being attacked by something.
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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
I used the shop vac and I tested that water and it didn't have an ec reading at all and I also added some fresh to the 2 gallons that looked strangely burnt from something but that is where im not understanding because the ones that look ok aren't really growing either as in they are somewhat stuck but some of the 1 litre look ok and the smallest plant has grown in size so not sure what caused that one to lose all of its leaves to begin with because it was being fed the same.
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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
I added 500ml of freshwater to each of the larger containers because they said stuck.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
To make this question more strange, the male plants that I cloned are flowering with pollen sacks and are dropping pollen under 18 hours of light while showing no sign of health but there not autoflower plants. There are two plants in 1 litre containers that are drooping also, you would think it would be the worst fungus infestation.
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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
I checked again the next day and they looked unpleasant again and the 2 gallons didn't look like they were doing anything for growth, strange uncomfortable feelings, not something I could describe. Some of the 1 litre containers look the same as yesterday no strange twisting or clawing in the leaves. If ive ever felt like giving up on something because of mystery technology, this would be it.
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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
They look ok right now but once again the smallest plant that Im keeping separate from the larger containers is growing completely normally and most of the other transplants in that space are ok but there are some problems there to and its being fed 2ml/gal ab 2ml/gal pro cal. So its obviously not really the nutrients. Whatever's hitting them is locking them out. They do look ok right now but they didn't this morning, what happened overnight isn't recoverable or viewable, if technology gives you symptoms or any systems are incompatible with a species it can't necessarily be used but in some cases that can happen if noone said anything. I can run the light at 80 F for awhile but when it cools down it needs a smaller space or a heater. There not really cost saving because they usually need to be separate or serving a function that makes them affordable to use.
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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
If I was teleported in that would probably be ok, just no sharp weapons in the face. Im unarmed.
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blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
Im pretty sure it isn't for me, I know I can't open a hatch or go down a ladder.
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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
I couldn't really safely dig down, its not my machinery. It could be hundreds of feet long. Its probably a large cave system, im not sure what species it is or if its only machinery.
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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
Im probably only able to say that something can do that, atleast there are some in 2 gallon that are alive but there just not getting hit as hard. The worst case I lose both strains and at that point I probably couldn't grow another plant because the non cannabis plant seeds I planted aren't even germinating and growing in that space.
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Stork
Storkanswered grow question 8 months ago
What kind of weed did you smoke it? Looks like fun
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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
I couldn't believe a growth tip grow for more than a day and then seeing 2 days later they look stuck like before.
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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
Why isn't it saying grow? IT ..technology why is there technology that can do that to your plants here.
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blackskaarj1
blackskaarj1answered grow question 8 months ago
I could spend months trying to figure this out.
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