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Plants are looking happy and healthy. The worms are also still alive. Ive started tot give the plants 6 liters of water every 4-5 days. Because i'ts such a big container the soil needs alot more time to dry out. Since I started giving bigger amounts of water I see much more worm activity in the top layer of the soil.
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This ladies look absolutely gorgeous and super strong, they're gonna be flipped into flower tomorrow on February 15th when they'll hit the 30th day since they were planted and the first day of flower! As said, I have flipped this ladies into flower on February 15th so now I think we're gonna see a beautiful stretch specially on this 2 plants which are the biggest one in the tent, very nice genetic, cannot wait to see their performance ❤️💛💚👨‍🌾 stay tuned everybody! This is gonna be a beautiful run! ✌️
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📆 Week 2, 13-19 May 2024 13-19 May - Observed and watched the seedling grow. 📑 Plant is strong and healthy. I see no problems in early development or the speed of growth. 🍶 13 May initial nutrient solution not changed, 1st change is week 3 🍽️ 13 May initial feeding schedule unchanged 💧 Using reverse osmosis water with EC/TDS at 0 🐉 Nutrient solution EC 1.0 at 72 degrees F 🔆 Light power at 50%, DLI 12-15 canopy coverage at 18hrs 😤 Using PYPABL, Air Pump, 400GPH That is it for this week. Thanks for the look, read and stopping by.
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Week 7: Well after accidentally super cropping the White Widow, splitting a branch then taping up on the Blueberry Big Devil and then mass defoliation, the ladies have coped well. I feel like I have watering dialed in now with a combination of using a soil moisture meter and picking up the pots, I have faith I am close to right with timing. The last feeding in week 6 I used full strength nutrients. This resulted in some nutrient burn with some tips of leaves changing colors. I feed just water the next go around and yesterday feed again with 1/2 strength nutrients. I will stick with that until flush. I am going to switch to dry amendments for my next grow and try that out. Temperatures are coming down into 60s at night and topping out in low 80s. Humidity has been hovering between 45-50 without any need for equipment to run. I did some lollipoping and cut lose all the secondary popcorn buds that weren't seeing the light of day. I can't think of anything I could have done physically to stress them beyond this point than I have, so from this point on out I am just going to water and feed. No more LST, adjustments, etc.. I have already been way too active in flower from my understand of autos anyway.
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8/11 -As the trends been this grow--both plants have responded very well to waterings. Im watering every other day allowing the substrate to dry out a little bit which encourages really good root growth. -I looked back to my previous grow diary to compare this grow to last at week 6 and oh boy am I blowing my old grow out of the water. Learning is a wonderful thing. -Stilts I put Cheese on seem to be working very well. Im starting to see a stretch on Cheese! Going to do some more LST to further even out the canopy. -Cream Cookies is really filling out and its undergrowth is really growing well. It's also starting to develop a strong odor! Awesome! A little bit about the nutrients: I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THESE NUTRIENTS! Not for the pH perfect technology but for how easy it is to feed my babies with these nutrients. I used to use General Hydroponics flour duo (micro and bloom) and that was such a huge pain in the ass to mix solutions. Every week would be a different ratio of both Micro and Bloom. Super confusing and really easy to screw up. This Sensi line from advanced nutrients is insanely easy. You just add an equal amount of both Grow/Bloom A+B in a specific concentration and that's it. All the necessary nutrients that the plant needs will be available for it if it needs it. It also doesn't burn my plants at all. At the beginning of my grow I was thinking of buying an TDS meter to tune the concentration of my nutrient solution. As a chemist, I felt I didn't need this as I can do the math and calculate TDS based on the species present in the concentrated nutrient solution--I never had to do this. Ive found that the best concentration to feed is around 13 mL/gal. Anything more is just too concentrated and my plants did not like it. SUPER HAPPY WITH THIS NUTRIENT LINE. LIFETIME CUSTOMER NOW. 8/14 -Both plants doing extremely well still with no issues. No Ca/Mg deficiency spots observed on any more leaves. -Canopy is getting quite thick once again-going to do defoliation this week. -Both plants are stretching like crazy--probably going to lower Cheese to encourage more of a stretch. -LST worked wonders evening out the canopy. -Cream Cookies is starting to really smell! -Going to sprout 2 more cream cookies plants this week with the hope to keep plants in a flowering rotation. The hope is to always have flowering plants under the lamp! 8/15 -Did some defoliation to create some breaks in both canopies to allow for some light to penetrate to the lower leaves -Original fan leaves started wilting and turning yellow so I trimmed them. -Trimmed lower fan leaves on Cheese: they were so big that they were blocking a huge amount of light to the newer growth. Id rather light hit the new growth than the old growth. -The differences in both plants are starting to show. There is a little satire (~30%) in Cream cookies and you can see it in the fan leaves. They just aren't as fat as cheese. Cheese fan leaves are so short and fat its really cool. Cheese is also growing a little bit shorter than cream cookies. -Makes sense since Cheese is a heavy indica auto flower while cream cookies is a indica dominant hybrid. 8/16 -Boy are both plants stretching. Lamp raised from 15 to 18 inches. -Flowering is in full swing for both plants. -Every other feeding cycle is going very well. Going to increase to 600mL next feeding. Curious to see how they'll respond. 8/17 -My last grow has all sorts of issues so I think its kind of comical that all of my entries this grow are about how nice the grow is going day by day. Really is awesome seeing the things you learn over time come to fruition. -Have three weeks of time lapse video, when you speed it up 8 times you can really see the explosive "stretching." it happens almost so quickly that it looks like the video skipped forward in time. Cant wait to post the final time lapse video at the end of the grow!
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Let’s Go day 29!! This week went real nice ! Girls are staying very healthy and building up nicely and even started showing signs of female sex which is super great ! We started doing a little bit of leaf tuck training method on em , nothing to big as like I said I want these girls just to do there thang an grow more on naturally side! My Air temp and Humidity have been on point all week, staying from 70-75 degrees throughout the day and humidity staying around 58-61% humidity , my girls are loving that summer an 75 feeling !! Can’t wait to see what we do this week ! Hopefully you all enjoy, and are ready for another great productive week ! Peace love an positive vibes to y’all Cheers 😶‍🌫️💨💨💨💨🤙🏻Happy Grows✌️🏻Week 4 let’s get it !
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8/4 130am. MONDAY. just AN from now on, no more aminos they will just ad N at this point and counter flowering. 🚨🚨8/4 12:30pm !!! FOR HUMANS!!!!!!🚨🚨👨‍🔬Combining **L-glutamine**, **proline**, **essential amino acids (EAAs)**, **glycine**, and **trimethylglycine (TMG)** in your supplement regimen, as seen in the nutrient mix you described for your cannabis grow, can have significant effects on human health, particularly given your positive experience with methylene blue (“I feel great after I take it”). Since you’re asking about the benefits for yourself (not plants), I’ll focus on how these compounds may contribute to your well-being, their synergistic effects, and how they might align with the energy and mood boost you’ve reported. I’ll also consider the context of your previous questions, including the nitric oxide (NO) precursors and methylene blue, to provide a comprehensive picture. The response will be concise yet thorough, addressing mechanisms, benefits, and potential considerations. ### Overview of Each Component and Their Benefits for Humans 1. **L-Glutamine (500 mg in your mix)**: - **Role**: A conditionally essential amino acid, critical for gut health, immune function, and muscle recovery. - **Benefits**: - **Gut Health**: Supports intestinal lining repair, reducing leaky gut and improving digestion, which can enhance overall well-being and energy. - **Immune Support**: Fuels immune cells (e.g., lymphocytes), boosting resilience, especially during stress or illness. - **Muscle Recovery**: Reduces muscle soreness and supports protein synthesis, beneficial if you exercise or are physically active. - **Brain Health**: Serves as a precursor to neurotransmitters like glutamate, potentially improving focus and mood. - **Relevance to You**: The energy and mood boost you feel may partly stem from glutamine’s role in reducing inflammation and supporting brain function. 2. **Proline (100 mg in your mix)**: - **Role**: A non-essential amino acid involved in collagen synthesis, tissue repair, and antioxidant defense. - **Benefits**: - **Joint and Skin Health**: Promotes collagen production, supporting joint flexibility, skin elasticity, and connective tissue repair. - **Cardiovascular Health**: Supports arterial wall integrity, potentially complementing the NO precursors in your mix (L-arginine, L-citrulline). - **Stress Resistance**: Acts as an osmoprotectant, helping cells manage oxidative stress, which may contribute to your “feeling great.” - **Relevance to You**: Proline’s low dose may subtly support tissue health and stress resilience, enhancing your overall vitality. 3. **Essential Amino Acids (EAAs, 300 mg in your mix)**: - **Role**: EAAs (e.g., leucine, lysine, methionine) are amino acids the body cannot synthesize, essential for protein synthesis and metabolic functions. - **Benefits**: - **Muscle Maintenance**: Stimulates muscle protein synthesis, aiding recovery and preventing muscle loss, especially during exercise or aging. - **Energy and Mood**: EAAs like leucine support energy metabolism, while tryptophan and phenylalanine are precursors to serotonin and dopamine, potentially boosting mood. - **Metabolic Health**: Supports insulin sensitivity and nutrient metabolism, contributing to sustained energy. - **Relevance to You**: EAAs may enhance your energy and mood by supporting muscle recovery and neurotransmitter production, aligning with your positive response to the mix. 4. **Glycine (1 g in your mix)**: - **Role**: A non-essential amino acid involved in collagen synthesis, neurotransmitter regulation, and detoxification. - **Benefits**: - **Sleep and Mood**: Acts as an inhibitory neurotransmitter, promoting relaxation and improving sleep quality, which can enhance mood and energy. - **Cognitive Health**: Supports NMDA receptor function, potentially improving memory and focus. - **Collagen and Joint Health**: Like proline, supports connective tissue and skin health. - **Detoxification**: Aids in glutathione production, reducing oxidative stress and supporting liver function. - **Relevance to You**: Glycine’s calming effects and antioxidant support may contribute significantly to your “feeling great,” especially if you experience better sleep or reduced stress. 5. **Trimethylglycine (TMG, 1 g in your mix)**: - **Role**: Also known as betaine, TMG is a methyl donor involved in homocysteine metabolism and cellular protection. - **Benefits**: - **Cardiovascular Health**: Lowers homocysteine levels, reducing heart disease risk, and may synergize with NO precursors for better blood flow. - **Exercise Performance**: Enhances hydration and muscle endurance, potentially improving physical energy. - **Liver Health**: Supports fat metabolism and detoxification, reducing liver stress. - **Mood and Stress**: Methylation supports neurotransmitter synthesis, potentially boosting mood. - **Relevance to You**: TMG’s role in energy metabolism and methylation may amplify the mood and energy benefits you’re experiencing. ### Synergistic Benefits of the Combination The combination of L-glutamine, proline, EAAs, glycine, and TMG, alongside the NO precursors (L-arginine, L-citrulline, etc.) and methylene blue from your mix, creates a synergistic effect that likely explains why you “feel great”: 1. **Enhanced Energy and Recovery**: - **Glutamine, EAAs, and TMG**: Support muscle protein synthesis, energy metabolism, and recovery, reducing fatigue and boosting physical vitality. Beta-alanine (from the NO capsule) buffers lactic acid, enhancing exercise endurance. - **NO Precursors**: L-arginine and L-citrulline increase NO production, improving blood flow and oxygen delivery to muscles and brain, enhancing energy and focus. - **Methylene Blue**: As you noted, methylene blue enhances mitochondrial efficiency, boosting ATP production, which complements the energy-supporting effects of glutamine, EAAs, and TMG. 2. **Mood and Cognitive Boost**: - **Glycine and EAAs**: Glycine promotes relaxation and sleep, while EAAs (e.g., tryptophan, phenylalanine) support serotonin and dopamine production, enhancing mood and mental clarity. - **TMG**: As a methyl donor, supports neurotransmitter synthesis and reduces homocysteine, which is linked to mood disorders. - **Methylene Blue**: Its mild MAO inhibition may increase serotonin and dopamine levels, amplifying the mood benefits you’re experiencing. 3. **Stress Reduction and Resilience**: - **Proline, Glutamine, and Glycine**: Act as antioxidants and osmoprotectants, reducing oxidative stress and supporting cellular health under physical or mental stress. - **TMG**: Enhances methylation, supporting stress resilience and detoxification. - **Methylene Blue**: Its antioxidant properties may reduce cellular stress, complementing the other compounds. 4. **Cardiovascular and Tissue Health**: - **Proline, Glycine, and TMG**: Support collagen synthesis and cardiovascular health, improving joint, skin, and arterial function. - **NO Precursors**: Enhance vasodilation, improving blood flow and nutrient delivery, which may contribute to your overall sense of well-being. ### Why You Feel Great Your positive response (“I feel great”) likely stems from the combined effects of: - **Mitochondrial and Energy Boost**: Methylene blue and glutamine enhance ATP production and energy metabolism, giving you a physical and mental lift. - **Neurotransmitter Support**: Glycine, EAAs, TMG, and methylene blue support serotonin, dopamine, and GABA activity, improving mood, focus, and relaxation. - **Reduced Stress**: Proline, glutamine, and TMG combat oxidative stress and support recovery, reducing fatigue and enhancing resilience. - **Improved Blood Flow**: NO precursors increase circulation, delivering more oxygen and nutrients, which may enhance energy and cognitive clarity. The doses in your mix (500 mg glutamine, 100 mg proline, 300 mg EAAs, 1 g glycine, 1 g TMG) are within typical supplemental ranges, suggesting a balanced approach that avoids overload while providing cumulative benefits. ### Considerations and Precautions 1. **Dosage Safety**: - Your doses are moderate and generally safe for most adults, but long-term high doses of TMG (1 g daily) or glutamine (500 mg daily) may stress the liver or kidneys in sensitive individuals. Typical supplemental doses are 500–3,000 mg for TMG and 5–10 g for glutamine, so you’re on the lower end. - Methylene blue (2 drops of 5% solution ≈ 5 mg) is a low dose, but its long-term use lacks extensive human studies. Monitor for side effects like nausea or dizziness. 2. **Interactions**: - **Methylene Blue and SSRIs**: Methylene blue is a mild MAO inhibitor and can cause serotonin syndrome if combined with SSRIs or other serotonergic drugs. Consult a doctor if you’re on such medications. - **NO Precursors**: L-arginine and L-citrulline may lower blood pressure, so monitor if you have hypotension or take related medications. - **TMG and Methylation**: High TMG doses may overstimulate methylation, potentially causing anxiety in some individuals. Your 1 g dose is moderate but worth monitoring. 3. **Individual Response**: - Your positive response suggests your body responds well to this mix, possibly due to baseline deficiencies (e.g., in glycine or glutamine) or high metabolic demands (e.g., from exercise or stress). Genetic factors affecting methylation (e.g., MTHFR mutations) may make TMG particularly effective for you. 4. **Nutrient Timing**: - Taking this mix in the morning (as implied by 2:47 AM) aligns with boosting energy and focus for the day. However, glycine’s calming effects might be better utilized at night for sleep support. Consider splitting doses (e.g., glycine in the evening, others in the morning). ### Recommendations - **Optimize Timing**: Take glutamine, EAAs, and TMG in the morning for energy and recovery, and glycine in the evening for relaxation and sleep. Proline can be taken anytime due to its structural role. - **Monitor Effects**: Track specific benefits (e.g., energy, mood, sleep, exercise recovery) to identify which compounds drive your “feeling great.” If methylene blue is key, its mitochondrial and mood effects may be central. - **Hydration and Diet**: Ensure adequate hydration and a balanced diet, as amino acids and TMG increase metabolic demands. Pair with B vitamins (especially B6, B12, folate) to support methylation and amino acid metabolism. - **Consult a Professional**: Discuss this regimen with a doctor or nutritionist, especially regarding methylene blue and NO precursors, to rule out interactions or contraindications (e.g., G6PD deficiency for methylene blue). - **Adjust Doses if Needed**: If you notice side effects (e.g., jitteriness from TMG, GI upset from glutamine), reduce doses (e.g., 500 mg TMG, 250 mg glutamine) and reassess. ### Conclusion The combination of L-glutamine, proline, EAAs, glycine, and TMG likely contributes to your feeling great by boosting energy (via mitochondrial support and muscle recovery), enhancing mood (through neurotransmitter production), reducing stress (via antioxidant and osmoprotectant effects), and supporting cardiovascular and tissue health. Methylene blue and NO precursors from your mix amplify these benefits by improving mitochondrial function and blood flow. Your moderate doses are generally safe, but careful monitoring and medical consultation are advised, especially for methylene blue. If you’d like, I can search for recent studies or X posts on these supplements for human use, or tailor a dosing schedule based on your goals (e.g., energy, mood, recovery). Let me know how you’d like to proceed!🚨👨‍🔬. 8/4 1230pm. 8/5 12:50am HEY HARRISON SMITH, HARVEY WALL BANGER, GET IT?...IM SO GOOD. ANYHOW....FLUSH TODAY, FLORAKLEEN 5ML PER GALLON ALL OF THEM..... NO DONT PILLAGE ME AND IM LIKE NO! IM PILLAGING EVERYBODY, YOU INCLUDED. 8/5 3:51 AM I mixed up floor clean 5 mL per gallon doing bubbles first and then goats and the other girl next to it👍 8/5 7:10 AM I’ve been doing this since five and I can’t believe how high my EC was. It was off the chart like 6000 7000 so I had to do the flush. I’m never really bothered to do this before. I’m sure it’s gonna be a lot better. One of my last grows. The leaves were so full of garbage. Basically my weed smell like a hamburger so not exactly good but I’ll save it for people. I don’t like👍. Sometimes it doesn’t remember a whole paragraph. I just fucking typed piece of shit took me six hours to do four fucking plants.🤣💥💥💥 8/6 408am. The colas on the oldest of the 3 are AMAZING!!!! they are all small but MIGHTY!! 2 cola grows in 1 gallon seem to be about right. I will probably get 4oz dry from EACH!! That is really acceptable!!! For a home micro- grow where the goal is ALSO to grow as many different kinds, to get more seeds, which keeps the seed companies coming up with new strains!!!! The 1 gallon plastic pots are light, small bags of Soil Sunrise from online is easy to store, CLEAN! the bags of dirt it comes in are strong, and easy to wipe up when done. The 8qt fills several pots I also mix in about 4 8oz cups of Perlite per container to stretch the dirt out a bit. Soil Sunrise delivered by amazon is the only dirt that did NOT have bugs...I used to order HUGE bags of FF delivered from outdoor garden centers all over the country ...the bug infested HORROR, never again!!! 8/6 418am Also my body is starting to fail, I can feel it. If there is any discomfort there will be no more updates. thats life. doesnt it go by in a blink? I think to myself what a bullshit goblin & demon infested shithole of a world, cant dies soon enough. And death to the shitters of 1978!!!😡 Did you ever hear about the Tragedy of Darth Arnie and Christine? He's more Chrysler 1958 Plymouth Fury than man now...maybe I got the movies mixed up again....idk....
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I basically followed the same steps as last week only different is i didnt top her off. I was going to do a full h20 change at the end of the week but more important things came up when I was about to do it. Plan on doing a full h20 change at the beginning of week 6. Need to find my trellis net a spread her out a lil more. I need to raise the light intensity jus a tad. Also raise the light this upcoming week. So far this has been a decent grow. Hope things continue this trend.
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Fast Buds has been very kind in extending me the opportunity to try our their new strain C.A. There's not a lot of information out there about this strain yet, other than it is supposed to be indica dominant. No solid leads on the name that I have found. I'd going with a guess of Cali Airlines for now (though I suspect this may be a CBD strain). Put the seed straight into the soil in the final container (3 gal grow bag) on March 3rd. I'll spray the top of the soil once a day until I see the sprout appear. Then I'll let the tap root do its thing and find the water below in the soil. The soil was watered heavily 2 days before planting the seed, then left in the tent to get the soil to temperature. My Perpetual Harvest strategy…. Originally my plan was to start 2 seeds each month, but had some seeds from one breeder that did not germinate early in my rotation. Ultimately, this caused single seeds to pop and messed up my 2 at a time plans. But, that seemed to work out OK, because now I think starting one seed every 3 weeks is a better strategy. This should provide me with 4-5 plants at a time, instead of 6. However… Since Fast Buds has been kind enough to allow me to preview their new CC and CA strains I am now going to be starting a new seed every 2 weeks. This should allow me to get all of the plants I want to grow this season in the perpetual harvest rotation. I need to shut down over the summer because my tent is currently in the attic. Plants get fed once weekly on weekends. Seedlings get water only. Plants in vegetation get water and Recharge. Flowering plants get water, Recharge or Big Bloom (Fox Farm). Feeding is done using 2 gallon watering can. Any additional waterings during the week are given on an as needed basis per plant. I lift the plants to help determine which plants are more dry (lighter) and provide water as needed. I give each pot a quarter turn every day in an effort to make sure the plants get equal lighting from all sides. I rotate the plant in place by turning the pot 90 degrees (I am not rearranging the layout of the plants in the tent on a daily basis). The soil is an ‘organic super soil’ I mixed myself using organic top soil, organic potting soil, organic compost, organic peat moss, organic perlite, organic vermiculite, lime, epsom salt, expanded clay pellets and Jobe’s organic fast start. I am also recycling my soil and water with Recharge when using recycled soil. For plant training I have tried a variety of things, but my plans now are to do LST bending only, no HST anymore. I may decide to go back to HST again in the future, but I’m curious to compare LST training only to see how that goes. Around 3 week I'll do a FIM cut/pinch once there are 4-5 nodes established. And some defoliation around the 3rd week of flowering. I have been doing HST bending and having good results, but think the HST may be causing the plants to take longer to harvest. I hope LST only will help increase harvests while getting me to harvest sooner. Setup: 1- Grow Tent 24”x48”x72” 2- Viparspectra 300W LED’s (1-V300 & 1-R300) 1- Hanging 100w CFL (26w actual) 1- Carbon Filter w/ 190cfm Fan & 4” ducts 1- 6” clip-on fan 1- 700w electric heater - oil filled radiator (in front of air intake behind tent)
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Great strain, would recommend. Nice smoke/vapor, friends love it, stupefying and euphoric, no heavy couch lock like heavy indicas. Taste great in The Mighty vaporizer, citrus with a hint of pine.
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#13.9.2021 - Feed is only water and slowly reducing pH down to 5.8 with GHE’s pH down. Trying to get most shades out from the foliage #17.9.2021 - Pheno#1 went for the 48h sleep before the harvest #18.9.2021 - Stem splitted Pheno#3 as well. We’ll see how it affects for last 5 days. Pheno#1 will be harvested tonight after 48hrs darkness.
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3/11 Week 11 a day early due to visitors day 28 of Flower Her buds building and coning as any proud female would like. No signs of any deficiencies and the tips are ok so leaving all nuets as is. Halfway to projected harvest date according to Fast Buds, we believe them. Having some humidity issues due to our funky weather. Humidity running higher than is safe on lights out , 60-70%, so installed one small dehumidifier but getting a larger one today to add to it. That is pretty much it, hope for better pics later! Good growing out there! 3/12 Vid and Pics of her We fouled up and miscalculated days in flower today should be 29 as she obviously into flower on 2/12. Hubby just looked at the calendar wrong 😏 Fix what I can sorry folks thought it looked further along than that. pics
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Another great week of growth , tips and bud arms coming through strong . 55 cm high and 70 cm across at day 33 . I will keep the arm’s seperate by tightening my tie wire as needed and also take any fan leaves off that are shading the bud sites or collecting moisture during the off cycle. Started adding a little bio diesel for flower after doing a coco flush . Hopefully replicate this week again next week .
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Skunk apple runtz I'm probably only going to keep 1 of these guys seeing the 2nd just has really bad growth so far. I'm sad about this I made this cross out my last grow and was hoping for the better end of things. The other plants is decent but we will see I hope it has the growth pattern of the lit farms Rick bobby and the bud structure of the obama runtz I grew It's looking like a good start to a week the plants are strong they are getting to the point I can let the dried dry out completely. I'm thinking by the end of this week the plants will be starting to be sold. Last week I put all the plants into my bigger 2x4 tent with my medicgrow mini sun 2 the 500w version. Only a few of the plants were ready for that light. Seems like the only plants that really have good resistance and have a strong start are the weedseedsexpress.com seeds. Shout out to weedseedsexpress.com for the strong plants. I ended up putting all the plants back into my 2x2 tent with the 55w amazon light it has alot more blue light in its spectrum. It's kinda weird b4 I switched the plants to the 2x4 tent they were getting 220umol under my amazon 55w led then when I put them under the 500w light 25% strength about 50in from plants and they were getting only about 195umol in that tent but it was stressing most the plants. I assume a larger light has more side lighting hitting the plants. I think when useing larger lights it's good to measure umols from the top but also coming from the sides. I think durring seedling stage they only need about 50% the umols coming from the side the plants as the top is receiving. When I put the plants back in the small tent about the same umols as they were getting b4 the switch and they were still a little stressed. So for a few days I put the small light at the top the tent giving them 100umols for a few hrs then 130umols the rest the day.