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4 years ago
Starting this diary from the planting of the seed for those that would like to learn soiless growing using nutramix HP or promise HP. From a grow shop is where to purchase. Not home Depot. Watch and read the comments in my photos. April 3rd update. Planted late in the day march 31st. By april 2nd 3 babies were born and waking up today april 3rd and the 4th baby is up. One sour diesel came up with the seed shell still attached. Gonna have to try and remove it.
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Week 1. Vegetation
4 years ago
5.08 cm
18 hrs
23 °C
5.7
No Smell
400 PPM
68 %
22 °C
24 °C
21 °C
38.1 cm
Planted the 2 gelato and 2 sour diesels late in the day march 31st and this morning signs of life. 2 gelatos popped and 1 sour diesel. Figuring the other sour diesel will be up tomorrow so starting the veg weeks as of now. Bought these seeds from farmerslabseeds.com and very impressed how fast these seeds popped, seeing as I just dropped them into the peat. Pointy end up of course. April 4th Girls have received their first feed. I will list total feed/water routines and values as I go. Fed today at 400 ppm My well water is 80 to 100 ppm. I added 200ppm of floranova grow, 100ppm of floranova bloom as well for a total of 400 ppm. 0.8ec Watered cups until a little runoff making sure I wet the entire planter. I'm wanting roots to spread quickly. Room temp is 74 humidity 63 CMH is running at 125 watts bout 15 inches from the plants. Removed the seed head from the sour diesel successfully and all the girls are on their way. April 8th update Last night April the 7th I plain watered the girls with a ph of 5.8. No need to check runoff levels for now. Girls are looking happy even though I am fighting low humidity levels until I get a new wick for my aircare humidifier. The gelato are looking good, the sour diesel is a little slower. Every Friday as the week is finished, I will be posting new pics. Hard to see the difference in a week if you take pics every day. So tomorrow, some updated pics will be posted.
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Week 2. Vegetation
4 years ago
10.16 cm
18 hrs
24 °C
5.8
No Smell
500 PPM
68 %
22 °C
24 °C
21 °C
50.8 cm
April 9th Plants are one week old at 7 tonight. 10th day from planting the seeds. Girls are looking fine. Will have more of an update when their ready for their next feed., likely Sun. Or Mon. Will be upping their feed by 100 ppm for a total of 500 ppm. April 11th 2021 Girls are 9 days old today. Feed day today. Seems every 4th day for water/feed. Fed the girls at 500 ppm 1.0 ec tonight. Well water was at 80 ppm Added 420 ppm 0.84 ec of floranova grow for a total of 500 ppm, 1.0 ec Gelato fast flower are very quick growers. Sour diesel are slower growers. Both were free seeds included in the Gelato order, and so far not to impressed with the genetics of these plants. We'll see. Started 2 other Gelatos at my buddies place incase the diesel doesn't perform. I'll just replace them if they dont improve some. Out of the 6 seeds planted all sprouted. Farmerslabseeds.com will get more buisiness from me. April 12. Girls are 10 days old today. Transplanted the ladies into their forever home. Cups were filled with roots and ready to go. Busy day, off to the hydro store. Couldn't get my regular nutramix hp grow medium today. My guy got the new promix hp with a plus on the bag. Says it's better than the old promixhp and the nutramix. Filled up my planters, buffered the medium to 5.8 and nuted the medium to 500ppm 1.0ec and threw the babies in. Received the wick for the aircare last night. Finally have the humidity under control again. TG. April 15th Tonight fed the girls at 500 ppm 1.0 ec, ph'ed at 5.8 Runoff water tested at 620 ppm, 1.24 ec, ph was coming out at 5.9 So., ppm of the promix itself when I first prepared it for transplant was at 500 ppm, 1.0 ec. Adding another 500 ppm and it only coming out at 620 makes me happy knowing a feed was needed. Will be updating the week tomorrow with some new pics. Gelato fast flowers are doing great. Sour diesels are definitely slower growers, a little wonky. The one that had the seed head stuck on it is the slowest grower. Heard some others say that they can be a wonky plant. Any experience with this plant, feel free to throw any tips you might have. Thanks for dropping by.
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Week 3. Vegetation
4 years ago
15.24 cm
18 hrs
24 °C
5.8
Weak
600 PPM
65 %
22 °C
24 °C
20 °C
19 L
50.8 cm
April 16th 2021 Sour diesel definitely a slower grower than the Gelato fast flower. Plants were transplanted at 10 days old. No shock to the girls. Everyone kept on growing good. The plants are 14 days old today 16 days from when the seeds were planted. Good quick growth in the Gelato, normal growth in the Sour Diesel. Mon. April 19th Fed today at 600 ppm 1.2 ec with a ph of 5.7 Runoff nute levels were 720ppm 1.44 ec Runoff ph levels were 5.8 Straight water next feed. April 21st. Hmm. Hope the girls are not being overfed. Just figured out my nutradip ec and temp probe for my growboss is faulty now. Oh well. 6 yrs. before I had to replace the probe for it and 3 ph probe replacements in that time. The new probe is on order, hoping to receive it before the girls need a feed. Just a water feed the next round. I would recommend the nutradip growboss above all the other brands out there. I have used the growboss alongside the nutradip constant ph monitor to ensure the ph is always proper, and both after a calibration come up with the exact same ph reading...
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Week 4. Vegetation
4 years ago
33.02 cm
18 hrs
24 °C
5.8
Normal
600 PPM
65 %
22 °C
24 °C
18 °C
19 L
50.8 cm
3 weeks old today the 23rd of April. ppm probe went faulty so overfed by a touch. Just a couple of slightly burnt tips so all is good. New temp/ec probe on order. Straight water until it arrives now. Girls are in full veg mode now running at what I thought was 600 ppm 1.2 ec but is probably more near 700 ppm 1.4 ec with the faulty probe measuring it. Will check against the new probe when I get it. I will go with what was given this time for the next week, seeing as no real damage to the girls. The sour diesel are much slower growers. May not be ready to throw into flower next week, when the Gelato fast flowers are ready.. Watered this evening, runoff was at 600ppm 1.2 ec but a faulty probe reading. Still waiting on a replacement probe for my growboss. Light up to 600 watts from 500 watts. 20 inches above. Thanks for dropping by. Tues. April 27th Still waiting on the new ec probe for my growboss. Unfortunately the girls need a feeding and I may have to use the old probe again. On a better note, the Gelato girls started showing their sex 2 days ago and the Sour Diesel are finally starting to grow a bit quicker. Going to throw the sour diesel to the side for outdoor grow. Their not a good match for growing side by side. Gelato fast flowers are pretty quick growers so the canopy would not be the same. I would have to lift the sour diesel to the height of the gelato and dont want to bother. I'm to old and lazy for any extra work now. This is why I grow the easiest way to grow. Soiless promix hp or nutramix hp rocks. April 29th Unfortunately, my back was out the last few days. Couldn't get down to see the girls. Asked someone, won't mention any names lol, to raise the lights for me. Went down, got doing something else and forgot to raise them. Sitting to close for a day and then way to close the next day ended up with some tip bleaching on some of the girls.. No major damage but the girls took some light and heat stress for sure. Sucks getting old and falling apart. Anyways, back feels much better and back to taking care of the girls again.
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Week 5. Vegetation
4 years ago
58.42 cm
12 hrs
24 °C
5.8
Normal
700 PPM
65 %
22 °C
24 °C
20 °C
19 L
50.8 cm
28 days It was a rough week for the girls and myself. Through my back out and wasn't able to get down to the plants for a few days. First off my ec probe for my growboss screwed up, finally received the new one. A couple of girls got a few burnt tips. Nothing serious but, I hate stressing plants. Next, through my back out and was laid up a few days. Asked someone, wont mention any names to take a run down and raise lights for me. Long story short, went down to raise my lights and got tinkering with something else and she forgot to raise my lights, and I never asked if she did. Should have known to ask. Oh well. The girls took a little light bleaching on the tips from to much light and heat. Second stress. Damn. Nothing to major again, but, damn. Third, it seem I didn't get the second jug of water to one of the girls the last watering, and it dried out and spotted up some. Have to be more careful with my back in the future. Thanks for dropping by... Sun. May 2nd Last Thursday the girls got a water Ph in 5.7 Ph out 6.0 EC out 300 ppm 0.6 ec Today was feed day Ph in 5.6 Ph out 6.0 Fed at 700 ppm 1.4 EC Runoff 520 ppm 1.04 EC Will likely be switching the lights to 12/12 tomorrow as plants will be reaching 18" their 17" today. May 3rd. Switching light schedule to 12/12 tonight. Tallest at 19", others at 18" Next 2 weeks will be very rapid growth as they transition. Their light feeders so far, and am waiting on new calibration solution to arrive before increasing the EC past the 700 mark. One girl definitely wants more but for now she is on a diet. Their all recovered from the light to close incident. Tips a little bleached but didnt spread to the edges of the leaves. So, I figure their ready to flip. Thanks for dropping by to have a look. May 6th SURPRISE!!!! Calibration solution came but Future Harvest sends a complete tri pack when all I ordered was the ec solution. Nice...Thanks future harvest. Grow Boss rocks.
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Week 6. Vegetation
4 years ago
83.82 cm
12 hrs
23 °C
5.8
Strong
750 PPM
65 %
20 °C
24 °C
18 °C
19 L
50.8 cm
May 7th Girls were switched to 12/12 last monday. Last night they received a light feed of 420 ppm. 100 ppm of bloom for some root growth and 320 rpm of grow formula. Tallest girl is at 25 inch and most others at 22 and 24 inches. Feeling easy now that the new ec meter and calibration solution has arrived. Ec coming out of the planters are really low. Plants are starting to eat like pigs. 420 ppm in and 300 ppm out. Last feed before this lite feed, I fed at 700ppm, 300 coming out. Ph in was 5.6 ph out was 6.1 Thanks for stopping by. May 10th Girls got a feed today 750 ppm going in 600 ppm on the runoff Ph going in was set at 5.6 Ph out of the runoff was 5.9 Girls are in preflower now May 12th Girl are just about finished their transition. Next week update will switch the diary to say flower. Gave them a preventative dawn soap and water spray yesterday just for piece of mind. Haven't had any gnats this run with the new Promix HP. Extra wind added and I see where the fan constantly hits these girls the tips claw in a bit. Still haven't fed as heavily as most other strains I have grown. Next will be straight water, then half bloom, half veg notes for the next feed day. Girls are at 29 and 28 inches, everything's healthy and happy... AMS Seed Company is sending me 5 free M.O.A.B. fem seeds. Will be doing a diary for testing purposes for this strain. Very expensive breeder to buy here, so very happy to try these seeds their giving me. Thanks for the dropping by..
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Week 7. Flowering
4 years ago
96.52 cm
12 hrs
26 °C
5.8
Strong
750 PPM
65 %
20 °C
23 °C
21 °C
19 L
60.96 cm
May 14 Just a few pics until I water the girls tonight. Girls are just starting to flower. Took 11 days to transition. Stretch so far on tallest girl has been 16 inches. Was 19 when I flipped, just under 35 inches now. Evening May 14 Watering day. Ph in 5.6, Ph out 6.1 Runoff check was 420 ppm 0.84 ec. Everything is chugging along smoothe. Hoping on some big arse nugs. That's it for tonight. Thanks for the visit... May 17th A few more bleached tips due to my inability to properly care for the girls right now. Bad time for the switch and stretch. My back is not cooperating and the girls suffer. I need an automatic light lifter that can raise the light 1 or 2 inches a day....Wish someone come up with one for me to buy. May 18th Feed day. 300ppm of floranova grow and 300ppm of the bloom, 100ppm well water for a total of 700ppm, 1.4 ec Runoff water was at 500 ppm, 1.0ec Ph in was 5.8 Ph out was 6.1
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Week 8. Flowering
4 years ago
127 cm
12 hrs
26 °C
6
Strong
600 PPM
45 %
20 °C
23 °C
21 °C
19 L
60.96 cm
These girls are popping along. They don't like much food I have discovered. Anything over 600 ppm and we start to burn tips. Wondering if these fast flower gelato have some auto genetics in them. First time not being able to bring the girls up to 800 ppm. Watered last night, well water ppm 80 and ph'ed the water at 5.9. The runoff was 400 ppm and the ph was at 6.1. Thanks for the support guys, gals. May 25th Girls got their first feed of Massive Bloom Formulation and Floranova bloom last night. Ph in at 6.0 ph out was 6.1 Ec in 1.2 was 600 ppm on the runoff was 600 These Gelato are easily overfed if you go past 600 ppm in veg. Then there is a plant or 2 that it isn't enough at 600 ppm. Not impressed with the different phenos wanting different amounts of feed. I mix one batch and they all get the same. Never came across such a light feeding plant. Wouldn't be so bad being light feeders if they all were light feeders. A little unimpressed with the amount of stretch in these girls as well. The GG#4 never came near this stretch, but I also never removed any leaves through the stretch to stress it at all, due to my damn back. Back feels much better now, hopefully I dont throw it out again. May 27th Last feed was at 600ppm Watered today Added 150 ppm of cal/mg mainly to add in a little nitrogen Ph in at 6.1 and ph out was 6.1 Runoff was at 350 ppm 0.7 ec Next feed will be an increase of 50 ppm to 650 ppm Plants are getting very dank smelling, crystal's forming. Weekly update of pics tomorrow. Thanks for the look.
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Week 8. Harvest
4 years ago
Happy Harvest Day!
Gelato #33 - Cookies Seed Bank
Spent 101 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
5/10
Rated
127.57 g
Bud dry weight per plant
8
Plants
3.72
Grow Room size
Hard
Difficulty
Sleepy
Energy
Indica
Hybrid
Sativa

Height
Day air temperature
Air humidity
PPM
PH
Light schedule
Solution temperature
Night air temperature
Substrate temperature
Pot size
Lamp distance
Took one plant last night the rest today. Will update with pics when finished. First girl was 1 1/2 pounds wet. Drying now. Only had 1 plant that I would have cloned, but decided not to as their a fussy strain in veg. Light feeder in veg, heavy feeder in flower..last feed I did was at 500 ppm and when check today ppm was at 320 so not worrying about a flush now. July 1st. 3 more plants down and trimmed. 5.2 lb wet from these 3 July 6th. The best for last. The big girl... July 12th. All jarred up. Total tally was near or maybe a little over 40 oz.. never weighed what we were smoking or gave to friends. This is some of the nicest tasting hooch I have smoked in a long while. Wife is happy, happy life.... Thanks to all you who have commented and followed this grow. M.O.A.B diary soon to come.
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Week 9. Flowering
4 years ago
134.62 cm
12 hrs
26 °C
6.3
Strong
800 PPM
45 %
22 °C
23 °C
21 °C
19 L
60.96 cm
Sorry bout the photos, battery was out so had to use another. Girls are rocking along. Thanks for the look... May 29th Noticed one of the girls in the back has some spidy mites on her, of coarse it has to be the back one to start. Never should have brought my buds skunk clones into the mix. They were covered in thrips and mites. Thought I had got rid of them all, but little bastards are persistent. Sprayed with a little dawn soap and water and killed all alive, now to get the eggs as they hatch...Damn, didn't need this extra work... June3rd Watered with 400ppm of grow and massive. Plants a little yellowing going on. Last feed was at 800 ppm last Tues, with a 600 runoff. The 400 ppm feed today came out at 400 ppm. These girls are light feeders in veg and pigs in bloom. Better for a soil grow I would say. Won't be growing this strain again., unless it really impresses me..Thanks for the peak..
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Week 10. Flowering
4 years ago
134.62 cm
12 hrs
26 °C
6.3
Strong
800 PPM
45 %
22 °C
23 °C
21 °C
19 L
60.96 cm
Sorry bout the blurry pics., a little shaky this morning woke up with a sore back. Time for some herbal medicine...super skunk and sour diesel no deficiencies Gelato lots. Very unstable strain in my books. Not good to grow alongside different strains, as they have different needs. Their still flowering nicely though,so I am happy at this point. Gave them some grow and massive bloom formulation, so let's see what happens to the skunk and sour diesel. Bet theyll take on a little shine unfortunately. June 8th Fed the girls last night. 400ppm of Massive bloom formulation 320ppm Floranova bloom 80ppm well water 800 PM total 6.3 ph in 5.9 ph out 800 PM 1.6 ec in and 1.44 ec out Girls are starting to bulk. A strain that didn't like much nitrogen in veg tells for it in bloom. Will not grow this again as it is to unstable for my liking.. Thanks for the view Girls are ready to start bulking up soon... Thanks for the look...
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Week 11. Flowering
4 years ago
134.62 cm
12 hrs
26 °C
6.3
Strong
800 PPM
45 %
22 °C
23 °C
21 °C
19 L
60.96 cm
Things are starting to look good in the room. Bulking up nicely so far. Leaves starting to go pale, some gone yellow but seem to be holding with the bit of grow added 2 feeds ago. Planters drying and need watering bad on the third day after watering. 3 to 4 more weeks... Thanks for the peak my friends... June 13th Water day 6.2 ph in 6.1 ph out Last feed a few days ago was at 800ppm and when watered today, runoff was at 420 ppm. Will bring these up to 900 ppm for late mid term flowering for one week, then decrease to 600 ppm the following feed. Will be taking out the massive bloom formulation after the next feed. Promotes foxtailing if you use it to late in flowering. Thanks for the peak. June 15th Feed day, 6.3 ph in at 800 ppm ph out was 6.2 at 600 ppm Girls are getting nice and chubby now. The dank in that room is so bad the wife won't go in now. Looking forward to harvesting soon. Cheers
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Week 12. Flowering
4 years ago
134.62 cm
12 hrs
26 °C
6.3
Strong
800 PPM
45 %
22 °C
23 °C
21 °C
19 L
60.96 cm
These girls going into their 6th week of bud is still holding white pistols, a few have started reddening, but most mainly still white and putting on size and weight. Very sticky and very very hard buds. The smell off the fingers is amazing compared to the dank in the room. It literally burns and brings tears to your eyes going into the room. The sour diesel and super skunk are behind these gelato fast flowers., but expected. Thanks for the interest my friends... June 21st I harvested one girl last night. The girl that developed the mites early into flower. Pistols had all oranged up and the triclomes were all cloudy. 12 3/4 ounces trimmed and wet. Nice aroma on the fingers after trimming. Put into my weed hanger for the next few days. Looking forward to the first bud dried enough to try out... Figuring a little more than 3 oz when dried....
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Week 13. Flowering
4 years ago
134.62 cm
12 hrs
26 °C
6.3
Strong
800 PPM
45 %
22 °C
23 °C
21 °C
19 L
60.96 cm
Fed the other day at 800 ppm runoff came out at 860 ppm, this is telling me it's time to reduce feed for this week and flush for next. Exciting times...Took a plant early and ended up with not quite 3 oz.. Very nice tasting weed, just a hint of fruit and I can't explain the rest. Just very enjoyable taste. Very smoothe smoking going in, and a little rough after it's in there, expands the lungs some. Buzz is very uplifting. Wasn't quite ready yet, but very impressed. Looking forward to the remainder harvest... Thanks for the peak... July 2nd Took 1 down last night, no pics, one this morning total of the two wet is 3.6 lbs wet. Some nice big bugs and absolutely rock solid. I'm impressed...
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Week 14. Flowering
4 years ago
134.62 cm
12 hrs
26 °C
6.3
Strong
800 PPM
45 %
22 °C
23 °C
21 °C
19 L
60.96 cm
Be taking all down soon. Need to spray and paint to get rid of the spider mites once and for all. Never bring friends clones into your room....
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Week 14. Harvest
4 years ago
Happy Harvest Day!
Sour Diesel - Custom Breeder & Strain
Spent 101 days
Ger Veg Flo Har
6/10
Rated
330.74 g
Bud wet weight per plant
75.6 g
Bud dry weight per plant
3
Plants
3.72
Grow Room size
Easy
Difficulty

Height
Day air temperature
Air humidity
PPM
PH
Light schedule
Solution temperature
Night air temperature
Substrate temperature
Pot size
Lamp distance
Just trimmed. More info when dried. 34 1/2 ounces wet between the 2 sour diesel a the 1 super skunk. The One SD and the super skunk were small plants but some heavy bugs on there. Sour diesel had a lot of triple branch buds. Instead of cutting a bud from each upside of the stem, I was cutting 3. Thanks for all the kind words to all my friends. Been a better or bigger harvest than I expected. Started jarring as the layers dry on the Gelato. Have to update that diary as well. Took the last one down today and she was a biggie.... This diesel isnt as awful tasting or the crappy smell left after smoking. Actually very pungent with a hint of pine to it. Little earthy as well...strong effects but no couch lock as I took a little early. Like active buzz rather than dumber down, so I took when trichs were all milky...
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